RFC Monitor Gold Custom Crossovers

[hermit]

I recently took delivery of a pair of Lockwood Majors with MG15s. The original two box Tannoy crossovers were recapped by Paul at RFC. I'm very happy indeed with how the speakers sound. I think they work well in my room and have good synergy with the rest of my system.

That said, I see that many MG owners use custom crossovers and I am keen to get the most out of the speakers. I'm going to live with them as they are for a few weeks but I've been chatting with Paul of RFC and I am strongly inclined to buy his 'standard' formula external crossovers. I was wondering if anyone would care to comment or provide feedback on their experience of his custom Tannoy crossovers. Thanks in advance.

[Magna Audio]

I've fitted many a pair of the RFC crossovers in the birch ply GRF replica cabinets or
in separate crossover boxes that I make to order.
They are quality items.

[hermit]

Thanks Steve. That's helpful.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Paul is one of those guys that will bend over backwards and then forwards again to help. His knowledge is massive with respects to Tannoy. To give you an example. He designed my cabs, gave me info on the best 15" MG drive units, designed the port and speaker cabinets tuning to my rooms dimensions. He built my XO to reference level (now my XO's have been bettered since then). In short the complete service. All you have to do is hand over your money and let him do the rest. My XO's sounded horrible when I first got them and then after a 100 hours or so really, really changed. Now I look forward to every sunday evening as it's single malt whiskey and jazz night :eyebrows:. I now get fantastically transcribed jazz through the MG's. Paul's also extremely honest, I gave him a blank cheque and was quite happy to buy boutique parts for my XO's but ended up with a set of XO which had been carefully designed and parts selected. In short, give him your money and just enjoy a whole new level of audio reproduction. I would say that you need to know your "house" sound of your 15" MG's before you can fully appreciate what his XO's can do. I hope this helps.

[hermit]

Thanks a lot Andrew. That gives me a great deal of confidence and is greatly appreciated. I also listen to a lot of jazz and it strikes me that the speakers suit the genre very well. Listening now to Oscar Peterson - We Get Requests. Just lovely.

[montesquieu]

Thanks a lot Andrew. That gives me a great deal of confidence and is greatly appreciated. I also listen to a lot of jazz and it strikes me that the speakers suit the genre very well. Listening now to Oscar Peterson - We Get Requests. Just lovely.

I also use Paul's crossovers with my HPDs, in a cabinet Paul designed based on the original 1961 corner Canterbury. Having been a Tannoy owner on and off for 30+ years and having owned over the last 10 years or so 15in MG and HPDs as well as 12in MGs and HPDs, in all sorts of cabinets from Lockwood Universal to Lancaster to Autograph to Cheviots to R-GRF to Chatsworth to my current Canterburys, I can say without any equivocation that Paul Tannoy expertise is literally second to none in any geography.

On top of that he's one of the nicest blokes you'll ever meet.

[Wakefield Turntables]

On top of that he's one of the nicest blokes you'll ever meet.

Also very honest, he also produces the longest most detailed replies to PM's. :lol:

[hermit]

I can say without any equivocation that Paul Tannoy expertise is literally second to none in any geography.

On top of that he's one of the nicest blokes you'll ever meet.

Thanks very much for chipping in Tom. It's very encouraging and reassuring to hear that, like Andrew and Steve, you rate Paul's work so highly. The fact that he's a thoroughly decent chap is the icing on the cake. I expect I'll go ahead and order the external crossovers in the few weeks, quite possibly sooner.


Also very honest, he also produces the longest most detailed replies to PM's. :lol:

I've had a few long conversations on the phone with Paul and I've learned a great deal. He's very generous with his time and does explain things thoroughly :)

[ff1d1l]

Thanks a lot Andrew. That gives me a great deal of confidence and is greatly appreciated. I also listen to a lot of jazz and it strikes me that the speakers suit the genre very well. Listening now to Oscar Peterson - We Get Requests. Just lovely.
:)
He, he,...great ain't it...was listening to it myself today. Another, an album called Skol - Peterson with Stephane Grappelli has been getting a lot of play here too....
Tannoys are great Jazz speakses....

[Yomanze]

All of the best HiFi is built by one-man bands or very small groups.

...few of them advertise in HiFi magazines. :D

Paul is one of the good guys, whilst I haven't heard his gear I've enjoyed his posts on the forums & reading about his experiences.

[hermit]

:)
He, he,...great ain't it...was listening to it myself today. Another, an album called Skol - Peterson with Stephane Grappelli has been getting a lot of play here too....
Tannoys are great Jazz speakses....

Thanks for the recommendation Nial. I found a copy of Skol on Discogs and it's on the way here.



All of the best HiFi is built by one-man bands or very small groups.

...few of them advertise in HiFi magazines. :D

Paul is one of the good guys, whilst I haven't heard his gear I've enjoyed his posts on the forums & reading about his experiences.

Yes, I've enjoyed reading his posts too. Always considered and informative. It's a great loss that he no longer contributes to any of the forums.

[pgarrish]

:)
He, he,...great ain't it...was listening to it myself today. Another, an album called Skol - Peterson with Stephane Grappelli has been getting a lot of play here too....
Tannoys are great Jazz speakses....

Luckily for me they are also great not-jazz speakers too [emoji41]

[danilo]

[Unacceptable remarks removed - admin] Besides I' haven't heard any that even remotely live up to claims.
Yes I'm a cranky bugger BUT I've been 'fooling' with these crossovers since mid 70's Made a LOT of mistakes.. also learned a few things along the way ;)
Want a serious/ genuine improvement..on your OEM crossovers?
2 choices:
a) Recap them (only! the caps)
example here: http://www.44bx.com/tannoy/goldcrossovermods1.html
This will make Marked improvement.. V cheap And easy..Most are V happy with the results
a) Follow Troels' design
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/MG15XO-up-grade.htm
For a slightly better result.. Gonna have to have a Really GOOD system to notice the improvements though

Anything else is merely Brochure babble delivered to Garner Income. Sad, but too often true.

Truth is Tannoy did a damned good job of it.. only Very small improvements are retroactively possible.
Digest on that for a moment

Seriously wanting to improve your DC's sounds to a markedly 'better' level ?
Go for an active crossover setup and ALL that involves. It's a Heavy path though.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Besides I' haven't heard any that even remotely live up to claims.
Yes I'm a cranky bugger BUT I've been 'fooling' with these crossovers since mid 70's Made a LOT of mistakes.. also learned a few things along the way ;)
Want a serious/ genuine improvement..on your OEM crossovers?
2 choices:
a) Recap them (only! the caps)
example here: http://www.44bx.com/tannoy/goldcrossovermods1.html
This will make Marked improvement.. V cheap And easy..Most are V happy with the results
a) Follow Troels' design
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/MG15XO-up-grade.htm
For a slightly better result.. Gonna have to have a Really GOOD system to notice the improvements though

Anything else is merely Brochure babble delivered to Garner Income. Sad, but too often true.

Truth is Tannoy did a damned good job of it.. only Very small improvements are retroactively possible.
Digest on that for a moment

Seriously wanting to improve your DC's sounds to a markedly 'better' level ?
Go for an active crossover setup and ALL that involves. It's a Heavy path though.


Thats an honest post, but, after hearing the before and after effects of PAuls work on my Tannoys I would have to stick with Paul's work. In fact, I'm having my current XOs redesigned again and yes the effects will only be subtle but I view the financial outlay as proportional to the improvements.

[Marco]

Danilo, I've warned you before about making inappropriate comments about people's equipment, and rudely slagging off respected, highly qualified manufacturers here, by referring to them as a "shed upgrade business", also comes into that category.

So, you're out for a week, and during that time I'll be considering whether you'll be wanted back even after that, as I don't really think you belong here.

Marco.

[hermit]

Just to update the thread with my thoughts having taken delivery of a pair of Paul's custom Tannoy crossovers last week.

As others have said, Paul's customer care is second to none and he was very generous with his time.

The care and attention to detail that went into building the crossovers is quite apparent as soon as you unpack them. The build quality is quite literally awesome. It's immediately clear why Paul is prepared to offer a lifetime guarantee. They look like they will last a lifetime :)

I've spent the last few days immersed in my system and I believe that Paul's design really delivers in comparison to my fully recapped stock crossovers. The main improvements that I've noticed: my system sounds more open and less constrained through the mids; the imaging seems sharper, more defined especially front to back; bass seems to have more definition and texture; horns and piano sound especially lovely. Overall the presentation feels very natural and "right".

In summary, I couldn't be happier and would strongly recommend Paul's custom crossovers to other curious Tannoy owners.

https://i.imgur.com/HH20MUM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5Ottlbg.jpg

[farflungstar]

I'm also considering Paul's crossovers - how easy were they to fit and get running...

[JohnJo]

Wow, those look fantastic :stalks:

[hermit]

Adrian, they were really simple to install primarily because of the time Paul invested with me to make sure I got what I needed.

In addition to the crossovers he supplied boards cut to size to fit in the hole in the door left by the outgoing crossover control panel. On these boards he mounted a locking silver plated xlr socket to which he wired up the Tannoy 4 pin connector that plugs into the driver. He even drilled and countersunk the screw holes in the boards and supplied the screws.

https://i.imgur.com/NAdVCwe.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9vLmI9A.jpg

[farflungstar]

Mine are the kensingtons so a little different, though Paul has assured me it's not too difficult. They may well be my Christmas present.

[montesquieu]

Well that's Paul for you. My experience was similar.


Mine are the kensingtons so a little different, though Paul has assured me it's not too difficult. They may well be my Christmas present.


Petrat informs me that in his opinion, moving to Paul's top end crossovers was the single biggest upgrade I've made in my system. I'm inclined to agree.

[mikeyb]

Oh no, I see divorce on my horizon [emoji15]

These look great, I better get some gear sold pronto!

[hermit]

Well that's Paul for you. My experience was similar.




Petrat informs me that in his opinion, moving to Paul's top end crossovers was the single biggest upgrade I've made in my system. I'm inclined to agree.

Thanks for reminding me! I should have mentioned in my update that despite my OP I eventually opted for Paul's 'top end' crossover. He does offer several lower cost options.

[Wakefield Turntables]

I've actually sent mine away AGAIN to be reworked upto top spec levels for the mg 15s. Mine took quite a while to fully come on song and I would add that what your hearing now is probably not what you'll end up with :eek:. Things usually improve markedly once you've become accustomed to the nuances these things generate and contrary to popular believe I think that his XOs genuinely do take 50-100 hours to run in. I'm sure other owners will comment and probably say I'm talking complete twoddle :)

[petrat]

I remember a dealer friend visiting Harbeth 20 years ago, hearing some of the 'development' prototypes, and telling me afterwards that he was absolutely amazed at how different crossovers could make the same speakers sound so completely different. AS was putting literally months of work into getting them right apparently. But for me, it's not just about 'voicing', it's also that cross-overs seem to be a 'bottle-neck', inevitably restricting things in one way or another. Whenever I've heard active speakers done properly, they've invariably been noticably better than the 'normal' version.

So, if cross-overs are a bad thing, it's a difficult one for me, because I am very satisfied with the way my Tannoys sound, and it'd be a bit of a gamble to change them. But, you don't know what you don't know. Would RFC's 'ultimate' cross-overs be an improvement? I believe that Tannoy improved the quality of their components for the Prestige range, so maybe not the same improvements to be had, compared to vintage models? Hmmm ... I eagerly await Adrian's verdict if he goes down that route. OTOH, as Danilo said further up the thread, going fully active is a big change, but may well be the 'last frontier' for my system, short of selling up and starting again with 5-way horns, etc :eek:

[Wakefield Turntables]

I remember a dealer friend visiting Harbeth 20 years ago, hearing some of the 'development' prototypes, and telling me afterwards that he was absolutely amazed at how different crossovers could make the same speakers sound so completely different. AS was putting literally months of work into getting them right apparently. But for me, it's not just about 'voicing', it's also that cross-overs seem to be a 'bottle-neck', inevitably restricting things in one way or another. Whenever I've heard active speakers done properly, they've invariably been noticably better than the 'normal' version.

So, if cross-overs are a bad thing, it's a difficult one for me, because I am very satisfied with the way my Tannoys sound, and it'd be a bit of a gamble to change them. But, you don't know what you don't know. Would RFC's 'ultimate' cross-overs be an improvement? I believe that Tannoy improved the quality of their components for the Prestige range, so maybe& not the same improvements to be had, compared to vintage models? Hmmm ... I eagerly await Adrian's verdict if he goes down that route. OTOH, as Danilo said further up the thread, going fully active is a big change, but may well be the 'last frontier' for my system, short of selling up and starting again with 5-way horns, etc :eek:

Good points. I also have a hig pair of active ATC 50s and they do indeed sound from passive but I own them because they produce and give me a certain "mood" when I listen to them. I lived with 15s for quite a while with the original XO spec containing all the original components and was very UNDERWHELMED. The Tannoys now are a very different beast and I would have to be completely on my upped before I flogged them. In my experience I got a very positive result perhaps better XO designs exist but none have as many positive recommendations as the RFCs.

[simonh]

Just to update the thread with my thoughts having taken delivery of a pair of Paul's custom Tannoy crossovers last week.

As others have said, Paul's customer care is second to none and he was very generous with his time.

The care and attention to detail that went into building the crossovers is quite apparent as soon as you unpack them. The build quality is quite literally awesome. It's immediately clear why Paul is prepared to offer a lifetime guarantee. They look like they will last a lifetime :)

I've spent the last few days immersed in my system and I believe that Paul's design really delivers in comparison to my fully recapped stock crossovers. The main improvements that I've noticed: my system sounds more open and less constrained through the mids; the imaging seems sharper, more defined especially front to back; bass seems to have more definition and texture; horns and piano sound especially lovely. Overall the presentation feels very natural and "right".

In summary, I couldn't be happier and would strongly recommend Paul's custom crossovers to other curious Tannoy owners.

https://i.imgur.com/HH20MUM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5Ottlbg.jpg

Paul, What version of x-over did you opt for?
I've approached Paul Coupe, and he has two versions of the external - good or high quality components.

Regards, Simon.

[hermit]

Simon, as the Lockwoods will hopefully stay with me for life, I opted for Paul's top spec.

[southall-1998]

I know absolutely nothing about electronics. But must express, those external crossovers look sexy!!

S.

[hermit]

But must express, those external crossovers look sexy!!

S.

I'm pretty certain that's not the reason for the easy to clean perspex covers :lol:

[walpurgis]

They do look good. Paul turns out nice looking products.

[montesquieu]

I tried going active with my 12in MGs, but it didn't work for me. Yes there was more detail to be had but the coherence was lost - good Tannoy passive crossover were just more musical and 'together'. Maybe it was the introduction of powered opamps into the equation (between a valve pre and valve power amps) that caused the issue for me. When I was having the solid state crossovers built I thought if active was the way to go then I might explore having some valve active crossovers done (if it was possible to find a circut - the notch filter in Tannoys makes it impossible to use off the shelf devices). But going back to passive and a single power amp just worked better.

I tried several ways of doing it including running identical power amps into both tweeter and woofer, and also trying a 2A3 SET into the tweeter and KT88 into the bass driver. Neither sounded as 'right' as the passive crossover to my ears.

I also tried going active using a digital crossover (Berhinder DCX24/96) but that was no improvement either.

[mikeyb]

Keeping an eye on this thread as this might be an option for my Berkeleys once I get them up and running.

Just have to decide which way to go and of course cost is a factor.

[WESTLOWER]

I'm in Paul's orderly queue for external crossovers for the Tannoy 12" MGs....exciting

[mikeyb]

I'm in Paul's orderly queue for external crossovers for the Tannoy 12" MGs....excitingNice one, I'm thinking that route too as I have the space for them now [emoji4]

[walpurgis]

I'm not sure why there's such a need for folk to want new crossovers for their Tannoys. It's not sensible to automatically think a change will be an upgrade. Tannoy were not stupid and spent a great deal of research and time on their crossover designs.

The crossovers in mine are forty years old and this is the best sounding pair of Tannoys I've had in my system in that time and that's twenty two pairs! Including Monitor Golds and HPD's.

Should I suspect the sound is suffering at any time, I'll service and recap the crossovers myself. I've already rebuilt the drivers.

[walpurgis]

the notch filter in Tannoys makes it impossible to use off the shelf devices

A passive notch filter can be used after the active crossover.

[anthonyTD]

:)
They do look good. Paul turns out nice looking products.

[montesquieu]

A passive notch filter can be used after the active crossover.

Then it's not off the shelf is it?


I'm not sure why there's such a need for folk to want new crossovers for their Tannoys. It's not sensible to automatically think a change will be an upgrade. Tannoy were not stupid and spent a great deal of research and time on their crossover designs.

Agree it's far from automatic - there are quite a few dodgy circuits out there doing the rounds that will certainly make things worse. (Some of them published on the Hans's Tannoy site)

However a well done set of new crossovers can also make things better, from better quality inductors improving bass response, to better resistors improving treble clarity and allowing more detail through. The point is not to change the character of the sound but to improve its quality. You might not feel the need yourself but I wouldn't by any means dismiss it as an approach.

[Edward]

Apologies for stepping into this thread. I don't have Tannoys or a need for new XOs. Just interested.

Maybe I'm being too simple about this but why the need to design new XOs? Surely an easier way is to simply grab the original schematic that Tannoy had and make a new XO with modern parts based on that schematic? If Tannoy did not publish the schematics then simply copy from an existing XO?

I suspect I'm missing something simple here and will soon be informed. :sofa:

[montesquieu]

Apologies for stepping into this thread. I don't have Tannoys or a need for new XOs. Just interested.

Maybe I'm being too simple about this but why the need to design new XOs? Surely an easier way is to simply grab the original schematic that Tannoy had and make a new XO with modern parts based on that schematic? If Tannoy did not publish the schematics then simply copy from an existing XO?

I suspect I'm missing something simple here and will soon be informed. :sofa:

[non-technical explanation coming up] The original Tannoys use autoformers that enable switching for different sounds (rolling off treble for example). These work ok but have their limitations and are in any case difficult to reproduce. Replacing these with custom inductors removed the switching ability but offer potential for improved sound - better clarity mainly but also better bass response.

You can get very good results from recapping the originals and putting in better resistors - they were manufactured down to a price and in any case are 40-50 years old now - but there is benefit in getting rid of the autoformers, so long as the circuit is correctly devised to manage the change. Some duff circuits circulating have put some people off going down the crossover replacement route (I got caught myself with this some 6-7 years back) but Paul's of course don't suffer from this.

[Edward]

Ah thanks Tom. So all down to taking autoformers out of circuit and getting that right.

I need to research (aka google) autoformers. :eyebrows:

[cooky]

If you want to go active this(red) is the Monitor Gold voltage drive curve you need to follow-with most modern digital crossovers this is pretty straightforward.;

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4503/38041938802_35e87ca1aa_c.jpg

[montesquieu]

If you want to go active this(red) is the Monitor Gold voltage drive curve you need to follow-with most modern digital crossovers this is pretty straightforward.;

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4503/38041938802_35e87ca1aa_c.jpg


Yes looks familiar, I had some help to set them up but passive still sounded better.

[petrat]

Thanks, Tom ... interesting to hear your experiences of active vs X-overs. ATM, I agree with Geoff about Tannoy's original X-overs sounding pretty fine in mine, but your comments about using autoformers do strike a chord with me. Maybe it's time to open them up and find out what is actually in mine :eek:

[cooky]

Yes looks familiar, I had some help to set them up but passive still sounded better.

Not all DSP crossovers are equal or capable of preserving all that lovely valveless in your system, I've used XTA and ALLDSP units with excellent results on Tannoy Arundels but it's certainly a more challenging route. One look at those curves against the raw response of the drivers and it's plain to see how easy it is to alter the stock voicing-passive or active..accidentally or on porpoise.

[walpurgis]

As long as the switches are clean and in good order, there's no issue with them. The autoformers in themselves are not a problem. The really fussy, can bypass the switches. I'd not bother.

You can uprate the power handling of crossover components, but to what end? Tannoys were designed for use in high level professional situations and the crossovers are well matched to that requirement in terms of power handling.

[montesquieu]

I’m not by any means saying the originals are rubbish. Only that the overall sound can be improved. It’s not subtle either the improvement is obvious.


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[WESTLOWER]

I purchased some early Tannoy 12" Monitor Golds, in Chatsworth sized cabinets, here on AoS. The crossovers they came with were original Tannoy HPD315, so whilst they made the speakers sing, you could tell there was more to come from these drivers. I was advised by a few from this parish to contact Paul Coupe at RFC www.referencefidelitycomponents.co.uk as he was the go to for Tannoy crossover advice.

Paul was very generous with his time both on phone and email and advised me that although the drivers were playing music with the HPD crossovers, they were not right at all and whilst they'd make a noise they were a long way off...

After visiting Tom's (montesquieu) place and hearing for myself what a well thought out and executed crossover design could offer I was hooked!
I contacted Paul again and he took me through the options, not once strong arming me into a purchase, indeed trying I felt, to save me dosh..

I made my selection, external crossovers in birch ply boxes and went for the components one down from the reference level...and formed an orderly queue.

The long and short of it, a few weeks later 2x very well packaged and extremely well made boxes arrived with a cable fitting kit, exactly the same as the photos earlier in this thread (i will add my photos later) and a simple clear and straight forward instruction email. First visual impressions were good. I was impressed with the external build quality.

i installed the Crossover cable connecting kit and fired up the Amps...

I suppose we all long for those moments of trepidation, expectation and excitement of a new toy in our systems to give us that 'upgrade' lift. Well buying effectively blind, I had all of those feelings.

From the first note I could hear a stratospheric difference in the speakers. Everything seemed to come into focus. The low end bass had definition, timbral beauty and grunt (oomph), the whole presentation had changed for the better. Gone was the rather shouty middle to top on vocals and horns, replaced by a smooth transition which moved seamlessly into the extensions of the higher frequencies.
There was more presence and whilst very impressing it's extremely easy to listen to. 6 Hours later I was still there. I loved it.

I'm pretty bad at articulating this sort of thing but I feel compelled to post about the biggest 'upgrade', change i have heard in my system.
I really like what I hear. I simply can't wait to go home tonight a listen again. And i guess thats the litmus test, right?

Anyone contemplating 'upgrading' their Tannoy crossovers, Paul is your first port of call. if you are worried about buying blind, you are more than welcome to stop on by my gaff and enjoy what this UPGRADE has done to the music presentation. I make good coffee.
Music is very important to me and Paul's product has just helped to give me more joy.

(btw i have NOWT to do with Paul, professionally or socially)

[anthonyTD]

Nice to read another positive outcome, from a happy customer!:)
A...
I purchased some early Tannoy 12" Monitor Golds, in Chatsworth sized cabinets, here on AoS. The crossovers they came with were original Tannoy HPD315, so whilst they made the speakers sing, you could tell there was more to come from these drivers. I was advised by a few from this parish to contact Paul Coupe at RFC www.referencefidelitycomponents.co.uk as he was the go to for Tannoy crossover advice.

Paul was very generous with his time both on phone and email and advised me that although the drivers were playing music with the HPD crossovers, they were not right at all and whilst they'd make a noise they were a long way off...

After visiting Tom's (montesquieu) place and hearing for myself what a well thought out and executed crossover design could offer I was hooked!
I contacted Paul again and he took me through the options, not once strong arming me into a purchase, indeed trying I felt, to save me dosh..

I made my selection, external crossovers in birch ply boxes and went for the components one down from the reference level...and formed an orderly queue.

The long and short of it, a few weeks later 2x very well packaged and extremely well made boxes arrived with a cable fitting kit, exactly the same as the photos earlier in this thread (i will add my photos later) and a simple clear and straight forward instruction email. First visual impressions were good. I was impressed with the external build quality.

i installed the Crossover cable connecting kit and fired up the Amps...

I suppose we all long for those moments of trepidation, expectation and excitement of a new toy in our systems to give us that 'upgrade' lift. Well buying effectively blind, I had all of those feelings.

From the first note I could hear a stratospheric difference in the speakers. Everything seemed to come into focus. The low end bass had definition, timbral beauty and grunt (oomph), the whole presentation had changed for the better. Gone was the rather shouty middle to top on vocals and horns, replaced by a smooth transition which moved seamlessly into the extensions of the higher frequencies.
There was more presence and whilst very impressing it's extremely easy to listen to. 6 Hours later I was still there. I loved it.

I'm pretty bad at articulating this sort of thing but I feel compelled to post about the biggest 'upgrade', change i have heard in my system.
I really like what I hear. I simply can't wait to go home tonight a listen again. And i guess thats the litmus test, right?

Anyone contemplating 'upgrading' their Tannoy crossovers, Paul is your first port of call. if you are worried about buying blind, you are more than welcome to stop on by my gaff and enjoy what this UPGRADE has done to the music presentation. I make good coffee.
Music is very important to me and Paul's product has just helped to give me more joy.

(btw i have NOWT to do with Paul, professionally or socially)

[hermit]

Glad to hear that you're pleased with your new crossovers Adam.

[mikeyb]

Planning this upgrade as well. Just have to decide which one of the external options to go for.

[WESTLOWER]

Glad to hear that you're pleased with your new crossovers Adam.

Paul, how have has your sound changed since the crossovers have 'burnt in' to want a better description.
Any difference from when you first installed to now?

[martian sunrise]

Paul has my Eatons finished and ready to be picked up - I am excited.

I'll add a +1 to adam's post re: the service/advice from Paul - a great guy.

[hermit]

Paul, how have has your sound changed since the crossovers have 'burnt in' to want a better description.
Any difference from when you first installed to now?

TBH my crossovers sounded great straight out of the box. I can't say that I noticed anything specific during burn in but, on some favourite records, I did often find myself thinking that I'd never heard my system sounding so good.

That said, soon after the crossovers arrived I made a conscious decision to avoid listening to the hifi, listening for improvements, analysing the sound, making comparisons etc. My aim has been to just enjoy the music. These crossovers and my new valve phono stage, which arrived just a few weeks after the crossovers, have really helped in that respect. They were the icing on the cake, bringing the system together and delivering new levels of realism. My system now is giving me the sound I've been searching for all these years.