View Full Version : Ridiculous Theresa May interview with Andrew Neil. (video)
walpurgis
28-05-2017, 17:51
Theresa May waffling and obfuscating all the way through, with not one straight or clear answer! And this is the person running the country FFS!! Unbelievable!!!
https://www.thecanary.co/2017/05/23/watch-the-30-seconds-with-andrew-neil-that-could-cost-theresa-may-the-general-election-video/
southall-1998
28-05-2017, 17:55
She could do with another facelift.
S.
Strong and stable err no Weak and wobbly. 5 U turns already so what is she going to be like negotiating for us in Europe.
OMG:doh:
chris@panteg
29-05-2017, 08:22
Strong and stable err no Weak and wobbly. 5 U turns already so what is she going to be like negotiating for us in Europe.
OMG:doh:
Actually it won't be her but err Boris the Fakir omg it's even worse.
Actually it won't be her but err Boris the Fakir omg it's even worse.
Even more worrying!
Jim Hacker on being interviewed by the press:
'If you have nothing to say, say nothing. Better still, have something to say, and say it, no matter what they ask. Pay no attention to the question, just make your own statement. Then, if they ask the question again, say ''That's not the question'' or ''I think the real question is...'' and then you make another statement of your own.'
walpurgis
29-05-2017, 10:08
Jim Hacker on being interviewed by the press:
'If you have nothing to say, say nothing. Better still, have something to say, and say it, no matter what they ask. Pay no attention to the question, just make your own statement. Then, if they ask the question again, say ''That's not the question'' or ''I think the real question is...'' and then you make another statement of your own.'
Yeah, realistic for sure. I hate squirming, evasive politicians. Most seem like that. Chosen for their 'abilities' to pull the wool over people's eyes no doubt.
You don't get that far up the pole by being honest and open with everyone.
farflungstar
29-05-2017, 10:48
May evaded and twisted the questions. Trust me, trust me - says the serpent....
Neill really laid into Corben who I think handled himself very well. In fact more like a prime minister than may - who sounded like a CEO on the defensive.
In my opinion this should be about policy and record, not personality. It isn't the States. The Tories are all about money and taking more from the poor - labour is about social justice unlike it's blairite past which was conservatism at heart.
Just my opinion.
M
In my opinion this should be about policy and record, not personality. It isn't the States. The Tories are all about money and taking more from the poor - labour is about social justice unlike it's blairite past which was conservatism at heart.
Just my opinion.
But personality comes into it. You might, for example, believe that Jeremy Corbyn is a genuinely nice, honest, well-intentioned bloke, but fear that, because of internal conflicts within Labour, he would not be able to put together a Cabinet of sufficient calibre to form an effective Government. The fact that Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary gives some credence to such a fear.
Corbyn's not been in government so he doesn't have anything to defend. May can be challenged on her record in office, which, as with most politicians of any party, is not exactly a string of glittering succeses. Hence the need to be defensive and evasive.
Were Corbyn to become PM he would then have to be as defensive and evasive when interviewed as May is now.
Of course he could play a blinder as PM and thus have nothing to be defensive and evasive about but that standard of performance would be unprecedented in British political history.
walpurgis
29-05-2017, 11:17
The fact that Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary gives some credence to such a fear.
Diane Abbott seems a horror. Comes across as unpleasant all round, looks like a fat sagging 'bag lady' and what the hell is that dirty looking 'hat' thing on her head. Can't be hair surely? :eek:
But personality comes into it. You might, for example, believe that Jeremy Corbyn is a genuinely nice, honest, well-intentioned bloke, but fear that, because of internal conflicts within Labour, he would not be able to put together a Cabinet of sufficient calibre to form an effective Government. The fact that Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary gives some credence to such a fear.
no guarantee he would last more that 6 months in power before being deposed of course. problem in Uk, much like most of the West is there are no really good politicians around
Corbyn's not been in government so he doesn't have anything to defend. May can be challenged on her record in office, which, as with most politicians of any party, is not exactly a string of glittering succeses. Hence the need to be defensive and evasive.
Were Corbyn to become PM he would then have to be as defensive and evasive when interviewed as May is now.
Of course he could play a blinder as PM and thus have nothing to be defensive and evasive about but that standard of performance would be unprecedented in British political history.
A large part of being PM is striking the balance between being a strong leader whilst also being willing to compromise in the interest of keeping your Cabinet united behind an agreed set of policies. Corbyn is in some ways fundamentally unsuited, because he regards his own principles as of far more importance than anything else. Fine if he's a maverick backbencher who votes as he pleases; not so great if he needs to keep people with differing views 'on-side'.
no guarantee he would last more that 6 months in power before being deposed
I think if he wins this election, against all the odds, he would become so powerful in the Labour Party as to be untouchable. He'd have to make a desperate pig's ear of it to be kicked out by his own party and 6 months isn't enough time for him to do that much damage. A full term, maybe.
I mean Brown was just terrible in every respect and it took a General Election and an gaffe of unparalleled idiocy to unseat him.
I think if he wins this election, against all the odds, he would become so powerful in the Labour Party as to be untouchable. He'd have to make a desperate pig's ear of it to be kicked out by his own party and 6 months isn't enough time for him to do that much damage. A full term, maybe.
I mean Brown was just terrible in every respect and it took a General Election and an gaffe of unparalleled idiocy to unseat him.
Not only that, but under current Labour party rules, even if he loses the General Election he could only be removed by a majority vote of all party members. If he won the General Election he'd be deified.
(Unless, of course, by 'deposed' struth means MI5 or someone unseating him by a pre-arranged 'accident').
A large part of being PM is striking the balance between being a strong leader whilst also being willing to compromise in the interest of keeping your Cabinet united behind an agreed set of policies. Corbyn is in some ways fundamentally unsuited, because he regards his own principles as of far more importance than anything else. Fine if he's a maverick backbencher who votes as he pleases; not so great if he needs to keep people with differing views 'on-side'.
That's a problem for him now, because he carries little credibility in the parliamentary party. If he wins the election that will all change. Almost all Labour MPs are secretly pretty Socialist. They just understand that being a Socialist will prevent you getting elected - or re-elected. If Corbyn wins that proves that theory wrong and they can all come out of the closet. At which point he will no longer need the Diane Abbots.
walpurgis
29-05-2017, 11:39
(Unless, of course, by 'deposed' struth means MI5 or someone unseating him by a pre-arranged 'accident').
There are those I'd put ahead of him. Quite a few actually!
Not only that, but under current Labour party rules, even if he loses the General Election he could only be removed by a majority vote of all party members. If he won the General Election he'd be deified.
(Unless, of course, by 'deposed' struth means MI5 or someone unseating him by a pre-arranged 'accident').
I think all candidates have to be approved by the National Executive before they can stand for election for leader. So they could always not approve him next time round. Won't look very democratic mind.
walpurgis
29-05-2017, 11:47
This is comical.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424061/Jeremy-Corbyn-showed-naked-Diane-Abbott-pictures-impress-Left-wing-activist-friends-breakdown-marriage.html
I think all candidates have to be approved by the National Executive before they can stand for election for leader. So they could always not approve him next time round. Won't look very democratic mind.
I think the current leader gets to stand by default (ISTR some hoo-hah around this point when Corbyn was challenged by Owen thingy last year). Here we go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2016#Leader ship_challenge
'On 12 July the National Executive Committee ruled that as the incumbent, Corbyn would automatically be included on the ballot by an 18–14 vote.[11] The party's lawyers, GRM Law, as well as James Goudie, had argued the party's constitution required Corbyn to secure nominations,[61][62] but conflicting legal advice obtained by the Labour Party leadership and UNITE from Doughty Street Chambers and Michael Mansfield, respectively, argued Corbyn should not need to obtain MP/MEP support to be placed on the ballot of a leadership election, as the party rules only mentioned the need for challengers to receive nominations, and did not explicitly specify the same requirement for the incumbent.[61][63][64]'
govt majority was about 17 seats and i expect that to increase a little, mostly at labours cost. Libs will no doubt go up a fair bit as will most of the small parties. SNP I expect to stay about same and continue as 3rd party.
I think the current leader gets to stand by default (ISTR some hoo-hah around this point when Corbyn was challenged by Owen thingy last year). Here we go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2016#Leader ship_challenge
'On 12 July the National Executive Committee ruled that as the incumbent, Corbyn would automatically be included on the ballot by an 18–14 vote.[11] The party's lawyers, GRM Law, as well as James Goudie, had argued the party's constitution required Corbyn to secure nominations,[61][62] but conflicting legal advice obtained by the Labour Party leadership and UNITE from Doughty Street Chambers and Michael Mansfield, respectively, argued Corbyn should not need to obtain MP/MEP support to be placed on the ballot of a leadership election, as the party rules only mentioned the need for challengers to receive nominations, and did not explicitly specify the same requirement for the incumbent.[61][63][64]'
So short of a successful legal challenge to the party constitution he is there until he dies or quits of his own accord. I suppose the membership might vote him out if he loses but they will want another old-school Socialist candidate to replace him.
Really this is an age-old problem for Labour. They only get elected when they say they are not Socialists. This worked for Blair but the rank and file assumed that once he was in power they would see some proper Socialism.
But that doesn't materialise due to the fact that once you are in power it turns out that all you can do is keep fudging along day to day, even minor achievements are hugely difficult and take years. Sweeping social reforms are just a pipe-dream.
The membership don't understand this and assume it is because Blair is a 'traitor' or whatever. So they elect a proper Socialist as a leader, because when he gets power he really will do the sweeping social reforms. Except he won't get into power because he is socialist. And even if he did he still wouldn't be able to achieve the sweeping social reforms because: The Real World. It's a Catch-22 plus one.
farflungstar
29-05-2017, 12:50
But personality comes into it. You might, for example, believe that Jeremy Corbyn is a genuinely nice, honest, well-intentioned bloke, but fear that, because of internal conflicts within Labour, he would not be able to put together a Cabinet of sufficient calibre to form an effective Government. The fact that Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary gives some credence to such a fear.
Yes, I get that - but on the other side we have Boris - the result of in breeding at its worst.
But Diane Abbot really is a bit of a thicko whereas Johnson is very intelligent. He's not exactly a 'friend to the working man', though, so I take your point there.
She could do with another facelift.
I would concur with your erudite assessment. Also, if it was 'smelly-vision', her slack facial skin would be accompanied by a whiff of stale wee.
Marco.
walpurgis
31-05-2017, 11:00
Rising acceptance of Corbyn means this has a ring of possibility about it. May becoming our 'Hilary'!
http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-31/is-mays-fate-to-be-hillary/
I hope with all my heart that the old bint LOSES ROYALLY.... If that happens, few will cheer more than me!! It'll be a case of.....
:upyours: :upyours: :yay: :yay: :upyours: :upyours:
:partytime: :partytime:
Marco.
farflungstar
31-05-2017, 11:23
For May to suggest imagining Corbyn naked is really sinking to a new low. Playground politics is not what we need for brexit.
certainly dont want to imagine her naked anyway:stalks:
Avinunca1
31-05-2017, 14:39
I'm sick and tired of all this talk about a good or bad Brexit deal. To me, it's like comparing methods to remove a healthy leg, with the worst deal resulting in losing both. People will look back at this time with incredulity.
Not for me. I've been against the EU since the Maastricht Treaty. Brexit gives me a warm glow every time I think about it. I'd really prefer they hadn't called this election and just got on with it. I don't trust Labour to push it through.
walpurgis
31-05-2017, 17:14
I don't trust Labour to push it through.
You're not the only one.
I'm sick and tired of all this talk about a good or bad Brexit deal. To me, it's like comparing methods to remove a healthy leg, with the worst deal resulting in losing both. People will look back at this time with incredulity.
its madness in this day and age to be doing this.
walpurgis
31-05-2017, 17:48
its madness
https://s12.postimg.org/er90nbmy1/mxcp935b0fdc7dd64fa5cfe2a359e0e6abaf.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/er90nbmy1/)
walpurgis
31-05-2017, 23:12
Corbyn denting Tory election hopes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-interview-general-election-2017-donald-trump-tuition-fees-a7756116.html
Avinunca1
01-06-2017, 18:58
You're not the only one.
I don't trust Labour not to push it through even though the poorest members of society will suffer the most.
Will they really ?
Or is this merely the Kool Aid talking?
Avinunca1
02-06-2017, 12:12
Will they really ?
Or is this merely the Kool Aid talking?
No idea what Kool Aid is despite visiting Canada. Yes the poor will suffer the most because the cost of vital food imports will rise. We are heavily dependant on such products. The EU are very unlikely to let us have any sort of good deal because No 1 priority for them is to keep the EU together. All this nonsense about EU countries needing us more than we need them. Imports /exports to fellow EU countries dwarfs our trade with member countries. However much anyone wants to leave the EU there will be a dire cost to our economy. That is unless our government agrees to the four freedoms. Can't see that happening.
No idea what Kool Aid is despite visiting Canada. .
It refers to the mass suicide of the socialist/communist cult of 'Jonestown' in Guyana, where they drank grape juice laced with cyanide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
'Although Jones used poisoned Flavor Aid, the drink mix was also commonly referred to as Kool-Aid. This has led to the phrase "Drinking the Kool-Aid", referring to a person or group holding an unquestioned belief, argument, or philosophy without critical examination'
Arkless Electronics
02-06-2017, 14:34
I'm sick and tired of all this talk about a good or bad Brexit deal. To me, it's like comparing methods to remove a healthy leg, with the worst deal resulting in losing both. People will look back at this time with incredulity.
Indeed! I regard all who voted for brexit as both stupid and the enemy and will NEVER accept it or cease trying to throw a spanner in the works wherever I can or stop fighting to reverse it! Farage should be hanged, drawn and quartered for treachery.
chris@panteg
02-06-2017, 14:43
Indeed! I regard all who voted for brexit as both stupid and the enemy and will NEVER accept it or cease trying to throw a spanner in the works wherever I can or stop fighting to reverse it! Farage should be hanged, drawn and quartered for treachery.
Absolutely on point Jez.
And it's worth pointing out in the unlikely event of labour win it wouldn't be Corbyn doing the negotiations but Keir Starmer QC, quite important qualification that and bloody useful.
I must say it's been fun watching the tories, panicking, I suspect they'll still win but maybe not the walkover they were expecting.
Arkless Electronics
02-06-2017, 15:04
Absolutely on point Jez.
And it's worth pointing out in the unlikely event of labour win it wouldn't be Corbyn doing the negotiations but Keir Starmer QC, quite important qualification that and bloody useful.
I must say it's been fun watching the tories, panicking, I suspect they'll still win but maybe not the walkover they were expecting.
I'm starting to hold a glimmer of hope for a Labour victory now that mayhem is exposed as the incompetent she is and that Corbyn is doing so well! We can dream anyway:)
Oh and "we're not from London you know!":D
Who do you hate most, Jez: May the Witch, or that floppy-haired chinless wonder, London-centric biased tosspot, Boris Johnson? ;)
Marco.
Arkless Electronics
02-06-2017, 17:15
Who do you hate most, Jez: May the Witch or that floppy-haired chinless wonder, London-centric biased tosspot, Boris Johnson? ;)
Marco.
A difficult decision! Equally loathsome really but still some way to go to equal Farage or Trump.;)
True.... Trump tops the lot! His hair [that little quiff-ette of his] though, is pure comedy gold! :doh: :lol:
Marco.
Your both now on his list
I'd get used to Johnson if I were you. He doesn't have the experience at the moment but I'd be very surprised if he does not become PM within the next 15 years. Might have a bet on that, thinking about it.
As for voting my usual policy is I only vote if I can summon any conviction for any party. AS a consequence I've not voted since 1987. Probably will not vote this time either, Constituency voted last time 10K Labour, 5K UKIP and 5K Conservative. Won't vote Labour as they all carry on like you lot :ner: and it puts me off. I just don't get with the hatred, the simple solutions to complex problems and all the starry-eyed 'one world' stuff.
Not keen on May or the Tories in general and whilst I voted to leave the EU, UKIP seem to have too many idiots and I'm not that keen on Nuttall. So no-where else to go but abstain.
I'd get used to Johnson if I were you. He doesn't have the experience at the moment but I'd be very surprised if he does not become PM within the next 15 years. Might have a bet on that, thinking about it.
You could be right, but hopefully Scotland (and Wales) will have gained their independence by then, so they can both send a huge FUCK OFF message to Westmonster!!
:finger: :finger: :finger:
http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6527/IgVjIG.gif
;)
Marco.
I'm fine with Scottish and Welsh independence if that is what they want to do. I think you would find the vast majority of English people feel that way.
Smaller countries, fully independent but co-operating of their own volition and on their own terms is the way to go. That's one of the reasons I voted to leave the EU.
Lol... You might be fine with it, but the establishment/elite certainly wouldn't be, due to North East oil revenue [hence why the last referendum was rigged]! :nono:
Best not get me started on that ;)
Marco.
P.S Did you get the email I sent you about you-know-what? :)
Yes got it thanks. Did not have time to go through it today though.
No worries. Hopefully you'll find some good places in there :cool:
Marco.
Before it becomes an independent country ;)
You mean an independent caravan park
Before it becomes an independent country ;)
Yeah, you'll soon need to take a passport :D
Marco.
As for voting my usual policy is I only vote if I can summon any conviction for any party. AS a consequence I've not voted since 1987.
Can I be cheeky and ask who you voted for? My guess is Tory... ;)
Marco.
It was Tory. Although IIRC it being Liverpool the Tory lost his deposit. What happened in Liverpool in the 1980s put me, and a lot of other people, off socialism for good.
No worries, and thanks for being honest.
I also understand and appreciate why you took that decision, but it does explain your (sometimes) hard-line anti-socialist stance now [often veering towards pro-capitalist], which has obviously been born from your previous bad experiences with socialism.
Marco.
walpurgis
03-06-2017, 10:27
Typical Tory double-talk: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/03/may-and-corbyn-enter-last-weekend-of-election-campaign-after-harsh-question-time-politics-live
May has stated there are no plans to raise taxes. Not quite the same thing as 'won't be raising taxes' is it? Now she's declined to rule out tax rises. :rolleyes:
No worries, and thanks for being honest.
I also understand and appreciate why you took that decision, but it does explain your (sometimes) hard-line anti-socialist stance now [often veering towards pro-capitalist], which has obviously been born from your previous bad experiences with socialism.
Marco.
It's ideology and idealists I take a stance against. Don't care from what side of politics it comes from. For example I favour water, power and rail to be nationally owned. Not because I am a socialist or because of ideological reasons but because it makes obvious sense. And I won't be intimidated into not saying what I think.
It's ideology and idealists I take a stance against. Don't care from what side of politics it comes from. For example I favour water, power and rail to be nationally owned. Not because I am a socialist or because of ideological reasons but because it makes obvious sense. And I won't be intimidated into not saying what I think.
No worries, and in terms of the last bit, quite right. I'd defend to the death everyone's right to free speech in this country.
I feel *exactly* the same way about expressing my views on government corruption, centuries of unjust Westminster rule, and the nefarious [often immoral] activities of the royals and the elite! :)
If I had the power to do so, I'd end it all instantly, and force them all to donate their collective fortunes to charity.
Marco.
Arkless Electronics
03-06-2017, 12:55
It's ideology and idealists I take a stance against. Don't care from what side of politics it comes from. For example I favour water, power and rail to be nationally owned. Not because I am a socialist or because of ideological reasons but because it makes obvious sense. And I won't be intimidated into not saying what I think.
Exact opposite here. I care only for idealism. Without ideals we have nothing to aim for in trying to improve things for the majority, we have no vision of how things should be and could be. Redistribution of wealth back from those who looted it from the working man is very important to me. The biggest crime is the existence of homelessness and food banks in such a rich country as the UK. Pensioners freezing in winter time, nurses having to use food banks and countless hundreds of thousands having to worry if they will eat everyday this week, never having even a weekend break, never mind a holiday, in decades, worrying if they will have to pawn something etc to pay the next bill etc. Alive but not much of a life. Taking back a third of the wealth of the richest 1% would easily end all this.... the ones with a Ferrari for each day of the week, an ocean going yacht and six mansions in different countries... no one needs to have that sort of money and for this to be extant whilst others suffer for the immediate lack of a tenner to buy food is in my view criminal.
I don't really need to say it again, Jez, but when it comes to this stuff, you and I are singing from *exactly* the same hymn sheet! :thumbsup:
And Corbyn's got a damn sight better chance of delivering what's needed, in that respect, than May!!
Marco.
Exact opposite here. I care only for idealism. Without ideals we have nothing to aim for in trying to improve things for the majority, we have no vision of how things should be and could be. Redistribution of wealth back from those who looted it from the working man is very important to me. The biggest crime is the existence of homelessness and food banks in such a rich country as the UK. Pensioners freezing in winter time, nurses having to use food banks and countless hundreds of thousands having to worry if they will eat everyday this week, never having even a weekend break, never mind a holiday, in decades, worrying if they will have to pawn something etc to pay the next bill etc. Alive but not much of a life. Taking back a third of the wealth of the richest 1% would easily end all this.... the ones with a Ferrari for each day of the week, an ocean going yacht and six mansions in different countries... no one needs to have that sort of money and for this to be extant whilst others suffer for the immediate lack of a tenner to buy food is in my view criminal.
Trouble is these folk make the laws and control the police etc and politicians of course. Poor old disabled folk like me get little and if, or probably when May gets back in i will have a damn site less. No chance of a holiday ever either. Have to turn down thermostat a touch every year as prices soar. It goes on.... glad im old tbh because i feel sorry for most of the young
Arkless Electronics
03-06-2017, 16:36
I don't really need to say it again, Jez, but when it comes to this stuff, you and I are singing from *exactly* the same hymn sheet! :thumbsup:
And Corbyn's got a damn sight better chance of delivering what's needed, in that respect, than May!!
Marco.
:cool:
Arkless Electronics
03-06-2017, 16:40
Trouble is these folk make the laws and control the police etc and politicians of course. Poor old disabled folk like me get little and if, or probably when May gets back in i will have a damn site less. No chance of a holiday ever either. Have to turn down thermostat a touch every year as prices soar. It goes on.... glad im old tbh because i feel sorry for most of the young
Which is why we need an idealist like Corbyn, who is hopefully ideologically above being bought off, to deliver... and for the many not the few.
farflungstar
03-06-2017, 17:32
Exact opposite here. I care only for idealism. Without ideals we have nothing to aim for in trying to improve things for the majority, we have no vision of how things should be and could be. Redistribution of wealth back from those who looted it from the working man is very important to me. The biggest crime is the existence of homelessness and food banks in such a rich country as the UK. Pensioners freezing in winter time, nurses having to use food banks and countless hundreds of thousands having to worry if they will eat everyday this week, never having even a weekend break, never mind a holiday, in decades, worrying if they will have to pawn something etc to pay the next bill etc. Alive but not much of a life. Taking back a third of the wealth of the richest 1% would easily end all this.... the ones with a Ferrari for each day of the week, an ocean going yacht and six mansions in different countries... no one needs to have that sort of money and for this to be extant whilst others suffer for the immediate lack of a tenner to buy food is in my view criminal.
+11111
walpurgis
03-06-2017, 18:17
Worst ever Tory election campaign.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/this-is-the-worst-tory-election-campaign-ever/#
Arkless Electronics
03-06-2017, 18:36
Worst ever Tory election campaign.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/this-is-the-worst-tory-election-campaign-ever/#
Every time Mayhem opens her mouth she looks more incompetent, less statesman like and more of a cold, uncaring type.... Corbyn on the other hand, after non stop vilification from the Tory press (which won't stop, wealthy press barons are amongst those that Corbyn will tax more!), is now getting to properly present himself to the British people and they are seeing that he's a really nice bloke, caring, warm, humorous, with policies that actually make perfect sense and much more prime-ministerial material than they had thought possible :cool:
farflungstar
03-06-2017, 18:38
May is so far up her own bottom I doubt she knows when it's day or night. She actually only has 2 advisors - which might explain the cock up this whole campaign has been. Arrogance, stupidity sum up her approach - not good qualities for a prime minister.
I don't really need to say it again, Jez, but when it comes to this stuff, you and I are singing from *exactly* the same hymn sheet! :thumbsup:
And Corbyn's got a damn sight better chance of delivering what's needed, in that respect, than May!!
Marco.
:thumbsup: Totally agree, however the real star of the Corbyn campaign has been Barry Gardiner. What a superb performer who not only out foxes his opponents but also the interviewers. What an intellect this guy has. Watch a few of his performances on video it will make you smile.:):cool:
May is so far up her own bottom I doubt she knows when it's day or night. She actually only has 2 advisors - which might explain the cock up this whole campaign has been. Arrogance, stupidity sum up her approach - not good qualities for a prime minister.
I know. I'd laugh my tits off if her decision to call the election early blew up in her pig-ugly mug! :lol:
Marco.
walpurgis
03-06-2017, 21:32
May. From bad to worse. 'hot air' interview. Amazing. Does she really think she can get away with this crap?!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-local-newspapers_uk_592fd315e4b09ec37c31cd63
walpurgis
03-06-2017, 21:45
Just listened to this again. I just can't believe it. What vacuous gabble! It would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious matter.
:thumbsup: Totally agree, however the real star of the Corbyn campaign has been Barry Gardiner. What a superb performer who not only out foxes his opponents but also the interviewers. What an intellect this guy has. Watch a few of his performances on video it will make you smile.:):cool:
Cheers, Jim. I'll check that out.
As an aside, I also thought that Corbyn came across much better than May, on Question Time last night, although he needs to be much more decisive when pressed on what action he'd take in the event of the UK coming under nuclear attack, and whether or not he would retaliate by pressing 'the red button'.
I fully support his humanitarian stance and desire to ensure that effective negotiation with our enemies prevents him from ever having to make that decision, but if such a situation were to occur and there was no option but to press it, then he needs to say that he would very reluctantly do so, rather than pussyfoot around the issue.
Let's face it, it's unlikely to happen, as anyone launching such an attack would effectively be committing suicide, so Corbyn should remember that and just spit it out. People need to have sufficient confidence in him being able to do what needs to be done, if the shit hits the fan.
His failure to clarify his likely actions, when pressed again on the matter, should the dwindling effectiveness of the Tory brainwash on the electorate not be successful, could be the reason he (and Labour) lose this election - and he MUST NOT allow that to happen.
Marco.
walpurgis
03-06-2017, 22:52
As an aside, I also thought that Corbyn came across much better than May, on Question Time last night, although he needs to be much more decisive when pressed on what action he'd take in the event of the UK coming under nuclear attack, and whether or not he would retaliate by pressing 'the red button'.
Marco.
Thing is Marco. I regard Corbyn as more of a Neville Chamberlain than a Churchill. You can't pussyfoot around when the shit hits the fan!
Thing is Marco. I regard Corbyn as more of a Neville Chamberlain than a Churchill.
Yes, that's undoubtedly his achilles heel, but he can fix it, and hopefully before it's not too late, whilst trying to get Britain to wake up and recognise what a hapless cretin May is.
Hearing now of yet more terror attacks having taken place, this time in London, it is more patently clear than ever that current government policies on dealing with terrorism SIMPLY AREN'T WORKING, so a new direction is needed, before things get worse and completely out of control.
Marco.
farflungstar
04-06-2017, 08:06
What's needed after all this finger pointing at Corbyn about his stance on terrorism is another attack to focus the debate - wait we just had one.
walpurgis
04-06-2017, 08:21
Oh dear. It doesn't get better does it? Nice quote "Lets make June, the end of May".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/03/theresa-may-campaign-from-confidence-to-panic
farflungstar
04-06-2017, 08:23
I think she will cancel the election - 2 years is better than none.
walpurgis
04-06-2017, 08:27
Finance sector and corporate funding supports Tory election campaign. As if we wouldn't guess.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-donations-money-raised-hedge-funds-bankers-analysis-general-election-2017-a7771346.html
Definitely not the kind of people who'd be looking out for the working man.
walpurgis
04-06-2017, 08:30
I think she will cancel the election.
That won't happen.
How anyone could vote for her is beyond comprehension. Apart from here oft stated intentions, she has changed tack so many times it is embarrassing
chris@panteg
04-06-2017, 08:35
I've felt for some time that she isn't that confident and prone to nerves, she doesn't look comfortable at all! I'm thinking though that she is actually more of puppet leader and is being controlled by others on the far right.
farflungstar
04-06-2017, 08:35
How anyone could vote for her is beyond comprehension. Apart from here oft stated intentions, she has changed tack so many times it is embarrassing
She is embarrassing.
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