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hifinutt
20-05-2017, 14:15
everyone talking about the tories means testing the winter fuel allowance

funnily enough :

The Labour Party introduced Winter Fuel Payments in 1997. They were
first announced by Gordon Brown, then Chancellor of the Exchequer, in
his Pre-Budget Statement on 25 November 1997.8
However, in a speech in 2013, then Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls said
that given the pressures on public spending, when thinking about the
Labour Party’s forthcoming Manifesto, it could no longer be a priority to
continue paying the Winter Fuel Payment to the richest 5% of
pensioners who paid higher rate tax.9 This was again confirmed by the
Shadow Chancellor in March 2015, and was included in the Labour
Party Manifesto 2015:
We will stop paying Winter Winter Fuel Payments to the richest five per
cent of pensioners.10

however maens testing seems problematic . age concern said

Why not means-test the winter fuel payment so it only
goes to those who really need it?
Means-tested benefits are complicated and often fail to reach
many who need them. For example around of third of older
people who are entitled to pension credit are missing out [Income
Related Benefits: Estimates of Take-up in 2009-10 DWP, 2012].
Universal benefits are the most effective way of ensuring that vital
support reaches all who need it, including the very poorest who
are not receiving the means-tested benefits they are entitled to.
Any increase in means-testing risks penalising those vulnerable
people who may slip through the net or who are too proud to
claim. Over the years this universal benefit has become an
essential weapon in the battle to stay warm during winter and is
an important income boost for many older people with low state
pensions
And means-tested benefits are expensive to administer.

much food for thought here , especially as prices rise for gas and leccie . we don`t want anyone to die of fuel poverty which they do now

struth
20-05-2017, 14:19
everyone talking about the tories means testing the winter fuel allowance

funnily enough :

The Labour Party introduced Winter Fuel Payments in 1997. They were
first announced by Gordon Brown, then Chancellor of the Exchequer, in
his Pre-Budget Statement on 25 November 1997.8
However, in a speech in 2013, then Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls said
that given the pressures on public spending, when thinking about the
Labour Party’s forthcoming Manifesto, it could no longer be a priority to
continue paying the Winter Fuel Payment to the richest 5% of
pensioners who paid higher rate tax.9 This was again confirmed by the
Shadow Chancellor in March 2015, and was included in the Labour
Party Manifesto 2015:
We will stop paying Winter Winter Fuel Payments to the richest five per
cent of pensioners.10

however maens testing seems problematic . age concern said

Why not means-test the winter fuel payment so it only
goes to those who really need it?
Means-tested benefits are complicated and often fail to reach
many who need them. For example around of third of older
people who are entitled to pension credit are missing out [Income
Related Benefits: Estimates of Take-up in 2009-10 DWP, 2012].
Universal benefits are the most effective way of ensuring that vital
support reaches all who need it, including the very poorest who
are not receiving the means-tested benefits they are entitled to.
Any increase in means-testing risks penalising those vulnerable
people who may slip through the net or who are too proud to
claim. Over the years this universal benefit has become an
essential weapon in the battle to stay warm during winter and is
an important income boost for many older people with low state
pensions
And means-tested benefits are expensive to administer.

much food for thought here , especially as prices rise for gas and leccie . we don`t want anyone to die of fuel poverty which they do now

wish I got it. would help a lot.

Marco
20-05-2017, 14:25
I wish that ANYONE BUT the Tories would win the forthcoming election, as I detest both their policies and what they stand for, and that heartless witch, who poses as a 'prime minister', but unfortunately it looks like they're going to win by a landslide, as they've brainwashed the British public into thinking that they somehow care for the common man! :doh::mental:

Marco.

Spectral Morn
20-05-2017, 14:27
Tories/May will if reelected regulate the net. Net freedom gone. Americans are removing Net neutrality.

Censorship of what you can see, where you can go, write etc will be imposed.

Spectral Morn
20-05-2017, 14:28
I wish that ANYONE BUT the Tories would win the forthcoming election, as I detest both their policies and what they stand for, and that heartless witch, who poses as a 'prime minister', but unfortunately it looks like they're going to win by a landslide, as they've brainwashed the British public into thinking that they somehow care for the common man! :doh::mental:

Marco.

They only care for themselves.

Marco
20-05-2017, 14:30
...and facilitating the best interests of the establishment.

Marco.

struth
20-05-2017, 14:35
All the brexitt voters will then find out what they are missing. Alas it will be too late i think. Unlikely to be an alternative govt to Tories without an uprising and we dont do those much. Scotland is trying to fight them but will fail. People like me will just go down the drain.

Marco
20-05-2017, 15:04
I'd string the whole shower of them up by their boz - and I bet that May bint has a pair of hairy ones too, under her M&S bloomers!

Marco.

Arkless Electronics
20-05-2017, 15:54
I fully agree with all the above. You would have to a retard or intrinsically evil to vote tory!

farflungstar
20-05-2017, 16:55
I wish that ANYONE BUT the Tories would win the forthcoming election, as I detest both their policies and what they stand for, and that heartless witch, who poses as a 'prime minister', but unfortunately it looks like they're going to win by a landslide, as they've brainwashed the British public into thinking that they somehow care for the common man! :doh::mental:

Marco.
I am appalled at the stupidity of the majority of the English public. Why do they believe the b*tch who is as much a megalomaniac as Trump?

Yes social care is in crisis.
Yes the poor are desperate.
Yes the the NHS is in crisis.

BUT the answer is NOT to take more money from them. Simply tax your rich friends and the corporation's who you know will employ you after government.

It sickens me that anyone can believe the utter shite spouted by them.

I don't much like Corben - but better a well meaning idealist than a cancerous parasite.

Sorry for the language.

Marco
20-05-2017, 20:21
No, no.... Bring it on! :D

:clap::clap::clap:

Some brainwashed puppies need to wake up and smell the coffee!!

Marco.