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andyrlb
30-04-2017, 09:37
I've decided that these have to go ( honest !! )
They are simply fabulous and in my opinion hard to beat if you don't mind their quirky looks.
They're not in mint condition but damn good for over 30 years old .
They are on their original castors and come with their grills and covers.
They are a matched pair .
Their protection circuit and led positioning lights have been bypassed ( as recommended).
http://www.kef.com/uploads/files/en/museum_pdf/80s/Reference_Series_Model_105_4.pdf

Collection will be from Milton Keynes along with a demo .

£700 firm .2012220123201242012520126

Audio Al
30-04-2017, 09:48
:eyebrows:

Very nice

struth
30-04-2017, 09:49
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/23ca314625f3903973a59f43d815d743.jpg

Hopefully this one is right way up lol

Might have a couple of 3 point bass druvers for these too. Look same glws

andyrlb
30-04-2017, 15:26
Bump for these super rare beauties

andyrlb
30-04-2017, 20:12
Reduced

Pharos
01-05-2017, 09:55
This post makes me feel that it is a shame that I cannot have great facilities for buying and trying so many of the previous and iconic past speaker designs.

I think back to the period of each, in which I made a decision to go another way after auditioning a new contender, and wonder what a few more hours with the non chosen than a quick audition, would have revealed.

It is also very interesting to see to what degree we really have moved on in the intervening time.
My friend and I imagine a left to right conveyer belt and a control at our seating position with which we can 'scroll the belt and one of our old systems appears for audition.

Scroll to Lowthers with Lowther EL84 amp, then to Lancasters with Quad 303, then ATC 50s with AXI pre, etc.

andyrlb
01-05-2017, 10:02
Agreed Pharos, that's why I ended up with so many speakers. Thankfully I'm at the happy end of the road now unless I win the lottery.
The 105/4's are absolutely amazing hard to beat Speakers imo and they have bettered many many others that I've bought then moved on .
I've no issue with keeping them just space is an issue .

Pharos
01-05-2017, 16:12
For me it's the intrigue that maybe, just maybe, there was some magic that the designer hit, and we never heard due to circumstances - missed gems.

The pair of Cambridge R50s on Ebay are another I'd like to revisit. They were used by the police at Denmark Hill for forensic voice monitoring. It looks as though they have a Decca tweeter for mid.

Barry
01-05-2017, 23:53
For me it's the intrigue that maybe, just maybe, there was some magic that the designer hit, and we never heard due to circumstances - missed gems.

The pair of Cambridge R50s on Ebay are another I'd like to revisit. They were used by the police at Denmark Hill for forensic voice monitoring. It looks as though they have a Decca tweeter for mid.

A friend of mine had a pair. From memory the driver line up is KEF B139 (bass), 110 (mid), T27 (treble) with a Coles 4001 supertweeter. The ribbed speaker cover made a superb diffraction grating!

KONDO
04-05-2017, 07:11
Hi,cracking speakers had a set 20 years ago,was using nap 110 power amp,mine were teak,glws

andyrlb
04-05-2017, 07:53
Cheers Kondo

andyrlb
04-05-2017, 17:19
Perhaps I'll combine these with my 104/2's = 107's ... ish ??

andyrlb
06-05-2017, 11:07
Bump

andyrlb
09-05-2017, 08:48
Bump

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 08:39
keeping them then .
Offer over .

Macca
11-05-2017, 12:20
Why has no-one bought these yet?

You people are nuts.

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 12:23
And I'm nuts for still trying to sell em !!!

Macca
11-05-2017, 12:51
Well, I wasn't going to say anything about that...

farflungstar
11-05-2017, 13:36
Because like most folks with speakers on here they won't ship. Simples.

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 15:50
I'd love for you to have them Adrian. Would you seriously trust these rare items with a courier?

Macca
11-05-2017, 15:56
To ship them overseas safely you would need proper wooden packing crates, probably cost half the price of the speakers just for the crates and shipping. Arguably still worth it though, the equivalent speaker new would cost over 5 grand.

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 16:08
well I'm confident of making the crates and as I work in house building I have all the materials and tools to hand , might have found a niche in the market!!!

petrat
11-05-2017, 16:08
Why has no-one bought these yet?

You people are nuts.

If you want them, Martin, I'll bring them up when I visit :eyebrows:

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 16:14
Cheers Peter , hope you are well .

Macca
11-05-2017, 16:47
If you want them, Martin, I'll bring them up when I visit :eyebrows:

I would have them like a shot but you've seen my place, there are 4 sets of big speakers in the living room already, and upstairs is full. Can't fit anymore in until I sell some.

petrat
11-05-2017, 17:11
:D Ah well, there's the real problem, Martin ... never selling stuff.

Lovely speakers, Andy ... glwts.

andyrlb
11-05-2017, 17:19
Cheers Peter . I'm going to keep them mate .

Audio Al
11-05-2017, 17:28
I would have them like a shot but you've seen my place, there are 4 sets of big speakers in the living room already, and upstairs is full. Can't fit anymore in until I sell some.

Snap :D

andyrlb
18-05-2017, 20:29
Come on guys !!! I need a tuner

Pharos
18-05-2017, 22:23
AVI S2000 Mk 1?

andyrlb
19-05-2017, 05:12
AVI S2000 Mk 1?

Hi Pharos, to avoid any confusion i meant I need these sold so that I can buy a tuner ( magnum Dynalab)
Cheers


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andyrlb
19-05-2017, 05:41
I will now include the spare drivers too !!!
£700 to AOS members only

Audio Al
19-05-2017, 08:19
Andrew

Try doing some photos with the grills and covers on , May help in the waf factor

Surprised these have not been snapped up :scratch:

andyrlb
19-05-2017, 08:24
Andrew

Try doing some photos with the girls and covers on , May help in the waf factor

Surprised these have not been snapped up :scratch:

Hi Allen , I've been meaning to get them outside for a photo shoot this week but it's been pissing it down daily, but yes I agree better pics needed .
And of course collection only doesn't help.
Cheers


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Lawrence001
19-05-2017, 08:26
Pics with girls on them, interesting idea, would they be draped over them in lingerie? Not sure how that would go down with the wife. Depends on the wife I suppose.

andyrlb
19-05-2017, 08:29
Pics with girls on them, interesting idea, would they be draped over them in lingerie? Not sure how that would go down with the wife. Depends on the wife I suppose.

Hi Lawrence,
The wife ( gorgeous imo) will be in her agent provocateur but the price is new boots [emoji6]


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Lawrence001
19-05-2017, 08:36
Here are some ideas..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/5c352ae753fddf555f19d77a564feba1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/8065988d095a8fdd876e26cad54bc4f1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/041469aefda4580b18e5f73850bc6191.jpg

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andyrlb
19-05-2017, 08:39
Oh you're thinking soft core!![emoji6]


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Lawrence001
19-05-2017, 08:42
Did anyone know Nigel and Kathryn from Sounds Perfection I always wondered what their friendly service involved?

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andyrlb
20-05-2017, 05:57
Bump...anyone ?? Magnum Dynalab etude wanted

andyrlb
20-05-2017, 07:29
Am I asking for too much ££ on these ?


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Lawrence001
20-05-2017, 07:32
If you look at completed prices on ebay you'll see what they go for

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andyrlb
20-05-2017, 07:36
Tried that Lawrence but there haven't been any 105/4's sold in uk for yonks and the last ones that sold had been refinished in black .
There Aos members that have seen and heard them and were very very impressed.


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farflungstar
20-05-2017, 07:49
They are great speakers. My reasons for not grabbing them are simple, couriers!, wrong time of year financially, would remind me of the superior 107's I stupidly sold!

andyrlb
20-05-2017, 07:51
They are great speakers. My reasons for not grabbing them are simple, couriers!, wrong time of year financially, would remind me of the superior 107's I stupidly sold!

Yeah I get that Adrian, cheers.


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struth
20-05-2017, 07:51
Would think they are a bargain at that price personally. God knows how much they would cost if made today

Macca
20-05-2017, 07:55
Well on the way to ten grand I would think.

Big speakers are always a niche market though. There is the WAF and the persistent myth that you need a big room for big speakers.

Even so I'm still surprised they have not sold.

andyrlb
20-05-2017, 08:05
I just can't let go for any less , the spare drivers & tweeters would sell for £160+ I reckon.
Oh well [emoji17]


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Macca
20-05-2017, 08:27
keep bumping them, someone will see sense at some point.

andyrlb
20-05-2017, 08:40
Thanks Macca, will do [emoji1303]


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farflungstar
20-05-2017, 09:02
I agree - someone will see them at some point and grab them. Be patient.

andyrlb
20-05-2017, 09:04
I agree - someone will see them at some point and grab them. Be patient.

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andyrlb
21-05-2017, 14:18
Bumpy

farflungstar
21-05-2017, 17:11
These are as iconic as the R107s. In mint condition and superb transducers to boot. They are worth the asking price and probably more to the right person. Hang in there or get them on fleabay and let the Japanese fight over them. I'd love to have them.

andyrlb
21-05-2017, 17:13
Thank you Adrian .

farflungstar
21-05-2017, 17:45
Having had and stupidly sold the 107s I know the level of craftsmanship, components and design ingenuity that went into the reference range. The heads alone are a work of genius - utterly resistant to resonance.

andyrlb
21-05-2017, 17:47
Having had and stupidly sold the 107s I know the level of craftsmanship, components and design ingenuity that went into the reference range. The heads alone are a work of genius - utterly resistant to resonance.


I might throw them in my van a deliver them to you personally Adrian!

Thanks mate


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farflungstar
21-05-2017, 18:15
If I hadn't set my heart on the Omegas or JMR Offrandes I'd take you up on that!

andyrlb
21-05-2017, 18:18
If I hadn't set my heart on the Omegas or JMR Offrandes I'd take you up on that!

No problem mate , I've done that journey ( well to Malaga ) and I still remember saying to myself " never again "
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andyrlb
22-05-2017, 10:58
Sold

farflungstar
22-05-2017, 11:08
Lucky buyer.

Audio Al
22-05-2017, 11:43
:champagne::cheers::yay::thumbsup::yesbruv::clapcl apclap::pub:

andyrlb
22-05-2017, 12:18
Cheers guys ������������

andyrlb
24-05-2017, 14:11
The deal is off !! How some dealers stay in business is beyond me . I won't mention the name publicly but for fucks sake .
Bump

farflungstar
24-05-2017, 14:18
Fuck. Sorry to hear that!

walpurgis
24-05-2017, 14:21
Sorry to hear that. Some dodgy emporium I'll bet.

farflungstar
24-05-2017, 14:39
Sorry to hear that. Some dodgy emporium I'll bet.
Maybe you got the nail on the head.....

Don't worry - they'll go.

andyrlb
24-05-2017, 14:40
Ha ha ha . Brilliant!!
Not bovered

andyrlb
24-05-2017, 17:18
Ha ha ha . Brilliant!!
Not bovered

Well it's not just manufacturers that don't call , don't update . Unbelievable.



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Boyse6748
24-05-2017, 18:59
Life goes on.... just about to make you an offer that you couldn't refuse... it involves a system Sleuth... and some money hay ho.. too late. Sold !!!!

Boysey.


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andyrlb
24-05-2017, 19:16
No worries Peter . The MD wasn't meant to be and the Kefs are meant to stay .

Boyse6748
24-05-2017, 19:32
Somewhat confused... are the Kef's still for sale. .?

I thought these had been sold ?


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andyrlb
24-05-2017, 19:44
Somewhat confused... are the Kef's still for sale. .?

I thought these had been sold ?


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I'll private message you the story Peter .



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Audio Al
25-05-2017, 09:10
Join the exclusive club , sorry to hear this :(

What is wrong with folk ? I know brexit is on the horizon but :scratch:

andyrlb
25-05-2017, 09:16
Join the exclusive club , sorry to hear this :(

What is wrong with folk ? I know brexit is on the horizon but :scratch:

Ah I'm not worried and it's kinda comforting glancing at them now and then knowing that they're pretty unique.


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andyrlb
27-05-2017, 16:14
Bump

andyrlb
31-05-2017, 15:49
Go on then ...


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andyrlb
31-05-2017, 15:52
Swaps ?


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disarmamant
31-05-2017, 20:13
Andy - Are the bass units reflex or sealed cabinets?

Boyse6748
31-05-2017, 20:46
Sorry to interfere... don't do anything you may later regret. [emoji30]

I hope you get my drift.

PB


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andyrlb
01-06-2017, 05:19
I get your drift Peter:eyebrows:

andyrlb
01-06-2017, 05:21
Hi Martin. They are sealed Type , non ported .( if you're referring to the cabinets)

disarmamant
01-06-2017, 18:08
They are sealed Type , non ported .( if you're referring to the cabinets)

Yes I was referring to the cabinets, thanks. Do you know if the crossovers have ever been re-capped?

Thanks

Martin

andyrlb
01-06-2017, 18:09
Yes I was referring to the cabinets, thanks. Do you know if the crossovers have ever been re-capped?

Thanks

Martin

Not that I know of Martin ( I was advised on here to leave alone ) the led has been bypassed as too has the protection circuit as recommended.


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andyrlb
03-06-2017, 09:07
Bump


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andyrlb
05-06-2017, 13:07
Swap ?

andyrlb
09-06-2017, 19:18
Any help getting them in the loft then ? ?


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