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Covenant
09-01-2010, 20:25
Sort of following on from Ali Taits OCD thread....
I have the same type of dream two or three times a week. I am doing something with my hands and put an object in my mouth and then forget about it. It can vary from a pair of scissors to a stone or an insect. I start to swallow the object and realise its going to really damage me as it slides down my throat.:mental:
I wake up covered in sweat often shouting and waking my wife. (Who is now used to it)
I would love to know what it means-anyone got some training or knowledge in this area?
Anyone else have a recurring dream?

Ali Tait
09-01-2010, 20:30
Wasn't my thread guv!

Covenant
09-01-2010, 20:52
Wasn't my thread guv!

Sorry Jonboys...

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:05
I used to have a reacuring dream where me and my mate went to a beach and I was constantly trying to prove to them how good at body boarding I was (I was really into it when I was a kid) but the waves were always to big or to small whenever I tried to catch them so no one belived me! I thn oneday had a dream that I cought a masive wave and did loads of tricks and stuff, only to realise that no one was watching, and in fact not there at all.. But I didn't actually care I was happy just doing the tricks and enjoying myself without needing to show anyone... I never had the dream since! I guess that's easy enough to read!
The problem with dreams and there meanings is that there really is to many variations, as no one actually knows, they just guess. If I were in your shoes I would investigate it your self, buy a couple of books, have a mooch on the Internet ... Reseach the most major events in the dreams, make a diary of when particular objest are involved, I would suggest that eventually you will come to you own conclusion... It's def one of those things were the only person who can answer your question is your self or perhaps the closest people to you.... That's just my take on it though

Joe
09-01-2010, 21:10
I don't have recurring dreams as such, but I often dream of particular places, for example a sweetshop that was about five minutes from my house when I was a lad. For some reason though, in my dreams the shop is on the other side of the road from where it was/is in reality.

Covenant
09-01-2010, 21:16
[QUOTE=hamish;93302]I used to have a reacuring dream where me and my mate went to a beach and I was constantly trying to prove to them how good at body boarding I was (I was really into it when I was a kid) but the waves were always to big or to small whenever I tried to catch them so no one belived me! I thn oneday had a dream that I cought a masive wave and did loads of tricks and stuff, only to realise that no one was watching, and in fact not there at all.. But I didn't actually care I was happy just doing the tricks and enjoying myself without needing to show anyone... I never had the dream since! I guess that's easy enough to read!
At least you had an excuse for wetting the bed!

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:17
I tried to get into lucid dreaming for a while, managed it quite a few times to a minor extent... Used to get stuck in places though! It's a lot of fun if you can get it to work though! One tip, if you ever get that feeling of 'this is a dream' try looking at your hands and moving them... That can quite amazingly trigger you to have a lot of control over what your doing!
I don't bother these days, that was when I was unemloyed for a while so wasn't really fussed about how good a nights sleep I got.. Theses days I'd rather just crash and wake with little interuption!

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:19
At least you had an excuse for wetting the bed!

how do you know about that! :lol:

Ali Tait
09-01-2010, 21:20
I used to have a lot of flying dreams when I was little.Quite common I believe.

Covenant
09-01-2010, 21:23
I have never had a rude dream. Very disappointing really.:lol:

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:24
Like in the "snowman" if that isn't inspired by an exited Xmas dream I don't know what is

jonners
09-01-2010, 21:25
Sort of following on from Ali Taits OCD thread....
I have the same type of dream two or three times a week. I am doing something with my hands and put an object in my mouth and then forget about it. It can vary from a pair of scissors to a stone or an insect. I start to swallow the object and realise its going to really damage me as it slides down my throat.:mental:
I wake up covered in sweat often shouting and waking my wife. (Who is now used to it)
I would love to know what it means-anyone got some training or knowledge in this area?
Anyone else have a recurring dream?

Hi Jerry -

My guess is that your dream may have originated with an accident/operation when you were very young: You either swallowed something dangerous or something got stuck in your throat and had to be removed. Your mind is still trying to come to terms with the trauma by replaying distorted versions of the original event - which your conscious mind has probably forgotten.

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:30
I had a dream where I had sex on a wooden brigde suspended between to giant elephants ... That was pretty wierd ... Although I think I was Reading a terry pratchet disc world book at the time, and they do have some pretty fantasic effects on dreams if I read them before sleep!

Covenant
09-01-2010, 21:30
Hmm a good theory John but I cant recall an incident like you mention. Apart from the usual cuts and scrapes the only accident I remember as a child was grabbing a fountain pen off my dad, running and tripping on the carpet. The pen went in my eye. Actually I dont rememeber this at all but was told about it years later.

The Vinyl Adventure
09-01-2010, 21:34
Do you suffer from asthma any breathing dificulty or any issue with acid indigestion or acid reflux? Or anything like that?

jonners
09-01-2010, 21:43
Jerry - If you could recall the original event it would be much less likely to go on troubling you, so I'm not surprised that you have no memory of anything like that.

Covenant
09-01-2010, 21:47
Do you suffer from asthma any breathing dificulty or any issue with acid indigestion or acid reflux? Or anything like that?

No, but the dream happens more often if I have eaten things like crisps or biscuits before going to bed. Maybe just a dry throat?

FarmBoy (DaveK yet again!)
09-01-2010, 21:52
Hi Jerry,
I have a proposal to make to help you understand your dream but it's rather a drastic one. Take early retirement and watch loads of daytime telly, particularly in the morning :lol: . At least once a week one or more programmes will have some psuedo scientific dream expert on, inviting viewers to call in and seek their advice on the meaning of their dreams. I thought (very briefly) about calling in with your dream the next time it happens and then quickly decided against it. My wife is already convinced that senility has set in and that might just persuade her to call in the men in white coats :lolsign::lolsign:
Seriously though, I'd vote for Jonners theory, always assuming that recurring dreams do have a 'real world' cause. On the other hand, FWIW, I have heard it said that dreams are the result of the brain trying to sort out what happened to you in your conscious hours. Who knows, certainly not me!
Cheers,

Puffin
09-01-2010, 21:54
Sort of following on from Ali Taits OCD thread....
I have the same type of dream two or three times a week. I am doing something with my hands and put an object in my mouth and then forget about it. It can vary from a pair of scissors to a stone or an insect. I start to swallow the object and realise its going to really damage me as it slides down my throat.:mental:
I wake up covered in sweat often shouting and waking my wife. (Who is now used to it)
I would love to know what it means-anyone got some training or knowledge in this area?
Anyone else have a recurring dream?

I used to have a very similar experience, waking up at night as if I was choking. It is interesting that Hamish asked if you suffered with reflux. I have suffered for many years and take daily medication. It is now under control and I rarely have these episodes any more. It may be that I hated the endoscopy tube which you have to swallow and constantly gag on whilst they are viewing your innards. I havent had one of those for years, although I should have them at intervals. I have had 3 of them.

FarmBoy (DaveK yet again!)
09-01-2010, 21:55
No, but the dream happens more often if I have eaten things like crisps or biscuits before going to bed. Maybe just a dry throat?

Or a little crisp residue remaining in the throat/oesophagus which only makes it's presence felt when you've been horizontal for a while?

anthonyTD
09-01-2010, 22:58
I used to have a lot of flying dreams when I was little.Quite common I believe.
hi ali,
the thing i find strange about the flying dreams is seeing things down below that you couldnt posibly have seen in real life, ie; before my mid thirties i had never flown!:scratch:
A...

Spectral Morn
09-01-2010, 23:04
I tried to get into lucid dreaming for a while, managed it quite a few times to a minor extent... Used to get stuck in places though! It's a lot of fun if you can get it to work though! One tip, if you ever get that feeling of 'this is a dream' try looking at your hands and moving them... That can quite amazingly trigger you to have a lot of control over what your doing!
I don't bother these days, that was when I was unemloyed for a while so wasn't really fussed about how good a nights sleep I got.. Theses days I'd rather just crash and wake with little interuption!

IMHO this is a very dangerous activity...one I would urge those tempted to try not too. Hamish you are very fortunate not to have got into serious trouble.


Regards D S D L

Themis
09-01-2010, 23:09
Sort of following on from Ali Taits OCD thread....
I have the same type of dream two or three times a week. I am doing something with my hands and put an object in my mouth and then forget about it. It can vary from a pair of scissors to a stone or an insect. I start to swallow the object and realise its going to really damage me as it slides down my throat.:mental:
I wake up covered in sweat often shouting and waking my wife. (Who is now used to it)
I would love to know what it means-anyone got some training or knowledge in this area?

Afaik, you have most probably a physical problem preventing you from breathing normally. That's why you wake up.
Please consult a generalist (not specialized) doctor. There can be several reasons, one of them could be serious (needing blood anti-coagulants treatment).

jonners
09-01-2010, 23:20
IMHO this is a very dangerous activity...one I would urge those tempted to try not too. Hamish you are very fortunate not to have got into serious trouble.


Regards D S D L

This is the first time I have come across the view that lucid dreaming could be dangerous. Why so?

Ali Tait
09-01-2010, 23:24
hi ali,
the thing i find strange about the flying dreams is seeing things down below that you couldnt posibly have seen in real life, ie; before my mid thirties i had never flown!:scratch:
A...

Yebbut you'd have seen it on the telly etc.

Spectral Morn
09-01-2010, 23:29
This is the first time I have come across the view that lucid dreaming could be dangerous. Why so?

Lets just say that it is a practice that opens doors into the spiritual realms and what sits behind those doors does not always have your best interests at heart... I have personal experience in this and other similar areas....it is very, very dangerous. Of course you would need to accept that there is a spiritual realm to see that danger and its source.

I don't want to say anything else about it....


Regards D S D L

Jonboy
09-01-2010, 23:49
I quite often fall asleep cuddling the wife (sweet i know) with my arm on her pillow over her head, i'm always smacking her on the head when i start to dream usually if i think i'm falling off or from something, the last one i can remember is when i though i was cranking over a engine and it backfired on me thus causing me to "jump" and smack her one, she (the wife)is very good about this and braces herself for the enevitable, although not a daily occurence.

The engine thing is from my main hobby of collecting and showing old engines, sad perhaps to you lot but a love affair of mine.

Ali Tait
10-01-2010, 00:00
Yeah,about as sad as this hi-fi obssession! :lol:

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 00:15
Lets just say that it is a practice that opens doors into the spiritual realms and what sits behind those doors does not always have your best interests at heart... I have personal experience in this and other similar areas....it is very, very dangerous. Of course you would need to accept that there is a spiritual realm to see that danger and its source.

I don't want to say anything else about it....


Regards D S D L

I suspect you know where I stand on this. I do apreciate your point of view and respect it ... But I would also guess you would be aware of my reasoning behind questioning it


I would personally not recomend anything without personal investigation, and neils views should be regarded and taken note of... But in contradiction I would encorage people to live there own existances and discover their own joys and mistakes... Without wanting to sound to criptic like :)
I hope you understand my pov on that, without trying to insight any ferther disusion on the open forum neil... Crap I need to lay off the rose wine :)

Spectral Morn
10-01-2010, 00:18
I suspect you know where I stand on this. I do apreciate your point of view and respect it ... But I would also guess you would be aware of my reasoning behind questioning it


I would personally not recomend anything without personal investigation, and neils views should be regarded and taken note of... But in contradiction I would encorage people to live there own existances and discover their own joys and mistakes... Without wanting to sound to criptic like :)
I hope you understand my pov on that, without trying to insight any ferther disusion on the open forum neil... Crap I need to lay off the rose wine :)

No problem Hamish.


Regards D S D L

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 00:30
I'm pretty certain we are doing this forum no good in terms of the subjectivist/near religious and out there rep it may well be gaining by discusing this sort of thing .... .... I dunno, I don't really want to get involved, I just don't want to exastibate anything??

Jonboy
10-01-2010, 00:35
Crap I need to lay off the rose wine :)

You light weight Hamish, Rose at this time of night

Alex_UK
10-01-2010, 00:36
Neil, I suspect you have some "interesting" experiences, not just on this, but other things you have eluded to (the Shippy/Beltism experiment, for example) - whilst Hamish is right, everyone has their own destiny in their hands, I would echo that there are some things we just don't understand, and caution is urged!

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 00:39
You light weight Hamish, Rose at this time of night

:lol: I'm on the vin blanc now ... Hannah has passed out so I'm forced to drink hers too.. Wouldn't want to see it go to waste like

Jonboy
10-01-2010, 00:44
i thought after twelve means it's whisky time, you like me enjoy it with coke;)

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 00:45
Neil, I suspect you have some "interesting" experiences, not just on this, but other things you have eluded to (the Shippy/Beltism experiment, for example) - whilst Hamish is right, everyone has their own destiny in their hands, I would echo that there are some things we just don't understand, and caution is urged!

I'm not gonna speak for neil, but he liKe me has had experiences in life that have led to a belife system! From talking to neil via pm inwould always respect his views and take on board everything he has to say when indulging in anything he has comment on... If that makes sence? But like you say alex, we are all individuals and are very much entitled and in my view should be encoraged to do our own (as I said) mistakes and the oposite

Covenant
10-01-2010, 10:49
I will have to ask-what are lucid dreams?

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 10:59
Ranging from just being aware you are dreaming to having full control over what happens during the dream
out of body experiences are also related somehow I think

Covenant
10-01-2010, 11:10
Afaik, you have most probably a physical problem preventing you from breathing normally. That's why you wake up.
Please consult a generalist (not specialized) doctor. There can be several reasons, one of them could be serious (needing blood anti-coagulants treatment).

I appreciate your comments Dimitri but would find it difficult taking up the doctors time to talk about a dream. My general health is ok apart from diabetes so I get a check up once a year. Maybe I will mention it then.

The Vinyl Adventure
10-01-2010, 11:17
Dimitri is refering to sleep apnea http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea?wasRedirected=true
it usualy afects the over weight but can (I think) happen to anyone! It's worth investigating if you are over weight as it can be quite dangerous I think

Themis
10-01-2010, 16:47
I appreciate your comments Dimitri but would find it difficult taking up the doctors time to talk about a dream. My general health is ok apart from diabetes so I get a check up once a year. Maybe I will mention it then.
You don't have to talk about the dream: just state that you wake up suddenly, often (sevaral nights a week), suffocating and in sweat. The doctor should check some basic things : it's his/her job. ;)
Hoping it's nothing serious. The dream itself is benign (its duration is a couple of seconds or so). ;)

Alex_UK
10-01-2010, 20:36
Probably an urban myth but I remember being told as a teenager that in falling dreams we always wake up before we hit the ground, and if we didn't, the shock of believing we had hit the ground would actually kill us in our sleep - well it scared me!

Barry
10-01-2010, 20:44
Probably an urban myth but I remember being told as a teenager that in falling dreams we always wake up before we hit the ground, and if we didn't, the shock of believing we had hit the ground would actually kill us in our sleep - well it scared me!

Falling dreams, prevelant during puberty and early teenage years, may be a reflection of the insecurity we all go through at that age, but the sensation of falling is actually caused by ones head slipping off the pillow.

I used to have a lot of 'flying dreams' as a child. I used to like the flying bit but would dislike the landing, as I always woke up with an unpleasant jolt. I learnt to recognise this and say to myself " I don't want to dream this anymore" and the dream would change.

Regards

REM
11-01-2010, 10:14
Probably an urban myth but I remember being told as a teenager that in falling dreams we always wake up before we hit the ground, and if we didn't, the shock of believing we had hit the ground would actually kill us in our sleep - well it scared me!

Obviously a myth, I can't really imagine a coroner pronouncing 'death by falling in a dream', can you? (The 'evidence' would make interesting reading!). ISTR these 'falling' feelings are most probably thought to be the result of atypical electrical activity in the brain, similar to that which occurs during a seizure. This explains why these dreams are more prevalent during puberty, when the brain is going through developmental changes and when we are under stress, be that physical or emotional.

Or something.