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Colinijohnson
08-03-2017, 16:08
Hi all
I've just upgraded my speakers from old kef c35 to Martin Logan 150's. I've also had my sme 3009 arm serviced by SME at great expense & had fitted a Nagoaka np-200 cartridge.
The other components are Cyrus 7 amp, thorens td160 deck, project s phono amp & dragonfly USB - which I stream lossless files from laptop.
I also upgraded the speaker & phono cables.
While the pc streaming sounds GREAT with the new speakers, the refurbished deck seems to lack vocal clarity and treble. Even a bit "dull". I realise vinyl sound is warmer etc, and the soundstage, detail etc is very good, but I feel something is not right...the set up seems ok, ... I am wondering if the old phono cables from the thorens is letting things down, or even the project phono amp.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Colin

struth
08-03-2017, 16:17
Welcome Colin. Hope you enjoy the site... used to have a td160 myself and didnt have that problem. Sme cable is usually ok. Could be the phono stage is not ideal for your needs. There are a few upgrades to the deck that can be done cheaply too. Maybe see if you can borrow or try some phono stages and see if it makes a difference b4 you buy anything. Firebottle and Arkless here have loan stages that do the rounds. I believe Graham Slee forum has one there too.

walpurgis
08-03-2017, 16:20
Hello Colin. Welcome to AOS.

Tell us what music you listen to and if you have any further plans for your Hi-Fi.

Find the appropriate section and ask your questions. I suspect the combination of MP-200 and SME arm may be the cause of the perceived dullness. Start a thread in the Analogue Arts area and ask. I'm sure our members will have opinions.


Enjoy the forum,
Geoff.

Macca
08-03-2017, 16:31
Hi Colin and welcome.

My guess would be the phono stage too. They make a huge difference to the quality of the sound and the Project is right down the budget end. As Geoff says, start a thread in the Analogue section, you will get plenty of help and advice.

jollyfix
08-03-2017, 16:44
Hi Colin, welcome to AOS, i think it could be down to your phono stage too. There are many phono stages around in the same price range as the Project, or cheaper, even more choice second hand. Enjoy the forum.

Colinijohnson
08-03-2017, 17:01
Thanks to all for prompt replies - I'll start a thread!


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jandl100
08-03-2017, 18:04
Welcome Colin! :)

I'm sure our resident vinyl guys will get you sorted.

.... err, what is a Martin Logan 150?

Rick_F
08-03-2017, 19:37
Welcome Colin! :)

I'm sure our resident vinyl guys will get you sorted.

.... err, what is a Martin Logan 150?

You mean there's something you haven't owned? :stalks:

jandl100
08-03-2017, 19:41
You mean there's something you haven't owned? :stalks:

Apparently so. :(

I don't think there is such a thing as a Martin Logan 150. :ner:
If there is --- I WANT A PAIR. :wah:

Colinijohnson
09-03-2017, 12:44
Apparently so. :(

I don't think there is such a thing as a Martin Logan 150. :ner:
If there is --- I WANT A PAIR. :wah:

You're right. I bought the bookshelf speakers & my new cartridge is nagoaka 150!


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Colinijohnson
09-03-2017, 13:48
Please excuse my ignorance - could someone advise me how to find the forum (& which one relating to above) on the app version, so I can post a thread. Many thanks Colin


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Colinijohnson
09-03-2017, 13:50
Is it "analogue art" ?


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struth
09-03-2017, 14:43
what do you want to post about

jandl100
09-03-2017, 14:46
Is it "analogue art" ?


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For the issue you raised in post #1, yes :thumbsup: