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Marco.
I liked this Stereo 50 ifi Retro All In One Vacuum Tube Amp and matching LS3.5 compressed bamboo speakers.
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No idea of price. Couldn't cop a listen to the speakers, but had ago on some planar magnetic headphones.
It does a lot - aptX Bluetooth, high res USB coax/PCM/DSD/DXD, 3D bass, 25 Watt/ channel tube amp, MM/MC preamp.
The LS3.5 is a modern take on the LS3/5a according to the blurb.
The headphone listening wasn't that promising I have to say but I was unfamiliar with the source and headphones. It might be alright in practise.
Very nice looking in the flesh.
hifinutt
26-02-2017, 17:05
did you take any of those georgeous kudos 707 ? now they WERE something
Looks pretty.. its about $1500
hifinutt
26-02-2017, 17:08
ah you mean the retro :) the kudos is 13700
Always liked the idea of a pair of these Pioneer Exclusive 2402.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S11nqJmqYKs
Or even the Rey Audio RM-11BC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_z4EfUHQQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_z4EfUHQQ
So I was quite shocked to see these in the Icon Audio room
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£10K so I was told. Obviously not in Rey or Pioneer Kenrick audio "pimp my speakers" quality. They sounded peasant enough, though I didn't get any hint of the sort of sound coming from the Kenrick videos played back on a decent system.
Interesting. I asked if they were a Pioneer copy and the man said no. He said they assemble their own drive units. But what that really meant is they buy in the bits to make them. He also said they were TDL inspired. How so? I thought. Any ideas anyone?
Another thing I liked was the TJ rectifier. The pic unfortunately is shite, but in the flesh they look fantastic. Been meaning to buy a pair and I think I will now. Shallow I know but the standard TJ 274B is pretty good, so I am sure the sonics of this elongated version will be fine too.
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Marco.
Got pics but no vids. I am fed up with receiving messages from YouTube saying my video has been banned due to copyright restrictions from various multi-nationals. Loads of them have been blocked.
did you take any of those georgeous kudos 707 ? now they WERE something
Yeah... but do you remember a while back they had some even better ones... the Titan 808 (http://kudosaudio.com/titan808/)? Now they really were good. I could live with a pair easily, I really could.
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This was quite good. The MFA room using a Nagra, playing some stuff recorded off iTunes, through some Graham speakers. Very pleasant when I was in there. Smooth, refined sound possibly lacking in res, but if a relaxing, nice listen is what your after this'd fit that bill.
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Kef and MF. Decided the latest MF kit looks smart. Me likey. The sound was good too, as the Kefs are none too bad.
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It is the CDP that takes it - it looks GREAT I think. But after having been bitten on their Tri-Vista player's irreplaceable transport a while back, they'll never have any more of my money. Ever. Again.
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Serious REL sub. Out of action. Had to fight through the people then ask for movement to get a pic - so there was a lot of interest in here.
Below it, a lesser REL but I have heard it before and it is very good. Way, way better than the older downward firing stuff I think. If I get any posts saying bass isn't directional and firing into the floor is fine, I'm not listening:D;)
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Digital cartridge fiddling...
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Seemingly stupidly good for the money. Freakin' tiny, but excellent playing Leftfield. Almost beggared belief. I spoke to the designer - -6DB at 53Hz and no deliberate bass emphasis higher up. I was impressed. Two Hi-Fi Piggy reps were in there, one agreeing with me, the other one smiling.
£699. Orphidian (www.orphidian.co.uk) Minimo. Of course they could be rubbish playing something else, I thought, so I walked back in later. Still really good.
Genuinely surprising things.
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Accuphase meterage. Those with power meter afflictions please avoid, or take Martin's (Macca) course of power meter appreciation therapy.
Unsure what the speakers were but since I thought the amp sounded really quite Accuphase like, I reckon they were perhaps a bit better than they looked. Nothing to write home about, but OK, I reckon.
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For me, year on year on year on year, the WB stuff always sounds really disappointing. There's a tonne of money here with the CH Precision kit. But it always sounds average in here, no matter what WB speakers are playing. I think the room must be cursed.
I've heard CH Precision gear sound good in Germany with other speakers. I'm pretty sure WB just don't make speakers, at any level, that I have any empathy with at all. You may think differently.
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hifinutt
26-02-2017, 18:59
fab ...keep it coming :)
fab ...keep it coming :)
Later on things to do...
The Nagra is slick. I've been hunting for a complete one for a long time.
southall-1998
26-02-2017, 19:44
Any pics of the Michell room, Justin?
S.
This was quite good. The MFA room using a Nagra, playing some stuff recorded off iTunes, through some Graham speakers. Very pleasant when I was in there. Smooth, refined sound possibly lacking in res, but if a relaxing, nice listen is what your after this'd fit that bill.
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I hope any tapes played back on the Nagra IV-SJ had been recorded on the same machine, as the IV-SJ is an instrumentation recorder and does not employ equalisation!
Interesting combination of a passive MF TVC with a Quad 405 power amplifier. :)
For me, year on year on year on year, the WB stuff always sounds really disappointing. There's a tonne of money here with the CH Precision kit. But it always sounds average in here, no matter what WB speakers are playing. I think the room must be cursed.
Yup - agree with that.
brian2957
26-02-2017, 21:00
Thanks Justin , I appreciate you taking the time to post these very nice pictures :)
Any pics of the Michell room, Justin?
S.
Yeah - the usual Michell/ProAc thing. Was quite quiet when I was in there.
Are they losing the aesthetics a bit? I think they are. I don't like those big plastic cages they are using much. Still good quality stuff, though, I say, speaking as a Michell owner.
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I hope any tapes played back on the Nagra IV-SJ had been recorded on the same machine, as the IV-SJ is an instrumentation recorder and does not employ equalisation!
Interesting combination of a passive MF TVC with a Quad 405 power amplifier. :)
Whatever they did sounded balanced. To bolded, yes. 405 a bit long in the tooth. But I guess the speakers are sort of present day retro.
southall-1998
26-02-2017, 21:12
How did you find the sound, from the Michell/Proac/Sugden combo?
S.
Here's a few PMC pics - with AVM hardware. Strange looking port on the PMC, but they did sound good. I think PMC make decent speakers in general.
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Chord stuff including Dave... the demo played a track for about a minute at 44.1KHz, then again massively upsampled to above 700KHz, which I believe the rep said the transport was doing. He had to add 3DB to the upsampled version as apparently it loses 3DB in the process. I heard no difference and left. That's not to say this isn't decent gear. I just heard no difference:) My strong expectation bias is not to, though.
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Quad sounding really quite alright and better than previous years when I was in there.
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For me, year on year on year on year, the WB stuff always sounds really disappointing. There's a tonne of money here with the CH Precision kit. But it always sounds average in here, no matter what WB speakers are playing. I think the room must be cursed.
I've heard CH Precision gear sound good in Germany with other speakers. I'm pretty sure WB just don't make speakers, at any level, that I have any empathy with at all. You may think differently.
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It's not just you Justin.
I've never clicked with anything they've demo'd, at Bristol or elsewhere. It seems like technology for the sake of technology, not for the sake of music. I've never had any emotional reaction to music played through any of their loudspeakers since the days that Jim (ex-Audiolincs) was the technical director with them.
How did you find the sound, from the Michell/Proac/Sugden combo?
S.
Too quiet to judge. But it is pretty static - year on year they use ProAc, which are generally decent, as is Sugden. Nothing to worry about there.
Interesting that ProAc seem to be using ribbons quite profusely these days. I will say, though, that the ProAc/Esoteric setup elsewhere left me cold. Must have walked in at the wrong time.
As usual at shows, it is very easy to come to the wrong conclusion. Just going off a few minutes in a room is riddled with flaws, and decent systems are easily missed that way.
Guess it proves the point that specs aint everything.
The ProAc/Esoteric setup I mentioned above. Surely some volume and some music I like would have improved the situation vastly, I thought.
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AG Zeros. Too freakin' quiet when I was there. I've heard them before at Munich, where I think Duos were quite notably better, and Trios/basshorns better again by a large margin.
The reason it was quiet was simply the sales pitch concerning what appeared to be some sort of media server box thingy. I had no interest in it and left.
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Maybe it's one of the Chinese knockoff 405s. They sound better than the real ones, and look identical from the front.
Maybe it's one of the Chinese knockoff 405s. They sound better than the real ones, and look identical from the front.
Interesting.
Primare / Revel speakers. Liking that there Primare aesthetic. Sounded pretty alright too - well articulated and detailed. Two pics in varying light, just for the hell of it. I'm assuming that's the American Revel company, responsible for some quite elaborate speakers. Can't be arsed to check.
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They were great, thanks for taking the time to post them.
So who had the best sound going on? And no crap about 'it's difficult to say'.
I bet it was them with the Pioneer speakers. It was, wasn't it?
That'll do for today.
Awesome, matey (as usual). Great enjoying all the pics, so thanks again for taking the time to take them and post them :thumbsup:
Marco.
They were great, thanks for taking the time to post them.
So who had the best sound going on? And no crap about 'it's difficult to say'.
I bet it was them with the Pioneer speakers. It was, wasn't it?
I'd imagine if the Kenrick Pioneer's were actually there, they'd fuck the whole show up and reduce all the other players to tears.
Awesome, matey (as usual). Great enjoying all the pics, so thanks again for taking the time to take them and post them :thumbsup:
Marco.
No probs. Quite enjoyable really. More pics tomoz probably.
hifinutt
26-02-2017, 22:40
yes you must be exhausted !!!! great though
Gutted I couldn't go, stuck at work on a sunday, it was pouring down so that helped a bit, but came across this thread now.. Any pics from audio note room to drool over?
And many thanks for the photos
Gutted I couldn't go, stuck at work on a sunday, it was pouring down so that helped a bit, but came across this thread now.. Any pics from audio note room to drool over?
And many thanks for the photos
No actually they were doing that live cello against the system thing. I couldn't be doing with it. The only place in the room was right by the door it was so packed. I withstood the celloist for about 2 minutes as he was in spiel mode, realised the speakers were only Ks and left!!!
the little audio company
27-02-2017, 00:19
Seemingly stupidly good for the money. Freakin' tiny, but excellent playing Leftfield. Almost beggared belief. I spoke to the designer - -6DB at 53Hz and no deliberate bass emphasis higher up. I was impressed. Two Hi-Fi Piggy reps were in there, one agreeing with me, the other one smiling.
£699. Orphidian (www.orphidian.co.uk) Minimo. Of course they could be rubbish playing something else, I thought, so I walked back in later. Still really good.
Genuinely surprising things.
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Cracking little things. And smaller than Neat Iotas!
I'm actually thinking about getting K's or J's later on this year, would have loved to hear the K's. Unlucky, what can I say. Probably would not have enjoyed it anyway, not too big on Belanger.
hifinutt
27-02-2017, 09:38
They were great, thanks for taking the time to post them.
So who had the best sound going on? And no crap about 'it's difficult to say'.
I bet it was them with the Pioneer speakers. It was, wasn't it?
imho it was the kudos /naim system . absolutely beautiful
hifinutt
27-02-2017, 09:39
Cracking little things. And smaller than Neat Iotas!
do you have them on demo david ?
Stratmangler
27-02-2017, 10:23
Here's a few PMC pics - with AVM hardware. Strange looking port on the PMC, but they did sound good. I think PMC make decent speakers in general.
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The strange looking port is a wave guide, designed to provide smoother airflow and thus reduce port noise considerably
https://pmc-speakers.com/technology/atl-laminair
walpurgis
27-02-2017, 10:31
The strange looking port is a wave guide, designed to provide smoother airflow and thus reduce port noise considerably
https://pmc-speakers.com/technology/atl-laminair
A posh alternative to drinking straws.
Stratmangler
27-02-2017, 10:38
A posh alternative to drinking straws.
That thought crossed my mind too.
You have to admit that the PMC flow port looks a lot nicer than drinking straws would have done.
They were great, thanks for taking the time to post them.
So who had the best sound going on? And no crap about 'it's difficult to say'.
I bet it was them with the Pioneer speakers. It was, wasn't it?
Music First Audio's room, with a MFA passive pre, a Quad 405 power amp, and a pair of Chartwell speakers. The source was a Nagra reel-to-reel tape recorder, but it was (only) a recording from Apple iTunes, not a master tape.
Runner-up was the Harbeth HL5+ 40th Anniversary speakers, powered by a Hegel integrated amp with a laptop as source.
the little audio company
27-02-2017, 14:09
do you have them on demo david ?
I certainly do - the whole of the M Series :)
the little audio company
27-02-2017, 14:13
A posh alternative to drinking straws.
I suppose it is in a way. The owner's son used to work in Formula 1, and the idea was taken from certain aerodynamics findings. It is basically controlling the air leaving the transmission line outlet. Slightly differently, Spendor used a similar idea for the D7 model (if I recall correctly) when they introduced it.
Maybe it's one of the Chinese knockoff 405s. They sound better than the real ones, and look identical from the front.
Is that a generally held opinion or is it your own. I've heard the exact opposite opinion.
Is that a generally held opinion or is it your own. I've heard the exact opposite opinion.
It's my own. I've put them side by side with friends present and they all agreed. 405s aren't that common here, but the Chinese models sounded better to my ears compared to a stock 405 with no upgrades other than a re-cap.
I've never bought one of the Chinese ones that had a power supply pre-installed, and always built one myself. I have tried the same power supply in both models and the Chinese ones always win in my opinion.
There are different boards that you can get from China as well. I have always used the ones with the MJ15024 TO-3 transistors.
Is that a generally held opinion or is it your own. .
It could be both. But then it would be opinion as to what qualifies as a 'generally held' opinion.
Sorry, as you were.
The price of a 405-2 is around $400 here "serviced". The service is always questionable until you open it up and see what they consider serviced.
I actually think they are really good amps for my type of listening, but they generally need some work. I have had quite a few of them over the years but I think the price/performance doesn't really even out.
The Chinese boards cost $50. Another $75 if you want the case with all of the modern connections already cut out. You can do a lot to improve it for the extra $275 that would have went towards a real 405 that needs work.
walpurgis
27-02-2017, 17:07
It could be both. But then it would be opinion as to what qualifies as a 'generally held' opinion.
That's just your opinion! :D
That's just your opinion! :D
It sounds like he's embracing subjectivity to me.
A few TAD shots. TAD Compact Evolution One loudspeaker. Worthy of a better room I think quite unable to justify itself and expose expensive speaker advantages in here. Nothing to complain about they clearly sounded fine this year, just not particularly memorable.
I like the higher end TADs. But they are damned expensive. I think they are best appreciated at the likes of Munich where the relative price to the rest of the gear/other loudspeakers at the show isn't high.
Personally, for £18K odd, I kind of want more loudspeaker than this. One that can displace some real air.
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Gamut and Clearaudio. Just the pics, no comments, apart from it's nice stuff and sounded OK.
Note liking for TT aesthetics from number of TT shots:D
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I also really liked the finish, which looked better in the flesh than these pics show. I used to have a pair of Response 2.5s, which were good. I think these are quite a bit better than they were. The ones with the Esoteric kit featured earlier are almost certainly better still, but didn't sound it at the time.
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One filthy TT. Dirty tarts usually come cheap. Expensiveness obviously not close to cleanliness here.
If she cleaned up her act people might be prepared to pay the good money she is probably worth.
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Active Acoustic Energy AE1s. In white? WTF?
Obviously made by deranged mods.
Will never forget a demo with AE3s years ago playing drums seriously loud. Extremely impressive dynamics. One thing they could certainly do well.
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Must say the aesthetics of a lot of this stuff, which the manufacturers have obviously spent a lot of effort on, leaves me cold. Maybe I'm just getting old :)
That little fella on page one with the bamboo speakers was cool though.
Thanks for posting Justin.
Must say the aesthetics of a lot of this stuff, which the manufacturers have obviously spent a lot of effort on, leaves me cold. Maybe I'm just getting old :)
That little fella on page one with the bamboo speakers was cool though.
Thanks for posting Justin.
The white AE1s upset me. I really did like the original looks wise. The 2006 repro just looks soooo much better... i.e. as per the original. Looked liked it meant business, even if it was a bit of an earful at times.
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Spendor made me smile this year. I didn't take pics, but they pulled off an alarming trick.
They had three rooms, expensive (for them), mid price, and cheap. As I went from room to room in that order, the sound seemed to get progressively better:D
Result!:):doh:
That's it really. All snaps are here, if it works. 112 pics, no edits, all I took. Anyone can do or post them wherever they like with no need to ask me.
Hit download and get the lot in one zip file. Send them to North Korea. Spread the hi-fi word.
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cyclopse
27-02-2017, 21:20
The ProAc/Esoteric setup I mentioned above. Surely some volume and some music I like would have improved the situation vastly, I thought.
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I thought this room suffered from a Nordost cable influence. I thought Warfedale is worth a mention for what they were achieving for £200. The TAD speakers were sounding way out of character (super bright) that I thought something must be broken in the replay chain.
the little audio company
27-02-2017, 21:35
I like the higher end TADs. But they are damned expensive. I think they are best appreciated at the likes of Munich where the relative price to the rest of the gear/other loudspeakers at the show isn't high.
Personally, for £18K odd, I kind of want more loudspeaker than this. One that can displace some real air.They're £12k odd. I'm not a major fan of piano music (nothing against the instrument, although I do like a lot of film scores that involve piano), but the piano track they played sounded amazing, really hitting home some really "crash bang" piano playing. I could quite easily detect what a lot of other loudspeakers struggle to do.
A better room may well get more out of them, but go from this room to almost any other room and everything just sounds like boom (I went in the Wilson Benesch room not long after, but much preferred TAD).
I thought this room suffered from a Nordost cable influence. I thought Warfedale is worth a mention for what they were achieving for £200. The TAD speakers were sounding way out of character (super bright) that I thought something must be broken in the replay chain.
What were Wharfedale showing?
Yeah - the usual Michell/ProAc thing. Was quite quiet when I was in there.
Are they losing the aesthetics a bit? I think they are. I don't like those big plastic cages they are using much. Still good quality stuff, though, I say, speaking as a Michell owner.
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Hey - I can see my amp and phono stage there! Nice to think they are worthy of being in a Hi-Fi show. They were sounding good last night :) Thanks for taking the pics.
hifinutt
28-02-2017, 09:54
thanks Justin
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high.spirits
28-02-2017, 10:27
Thanks Justin for taking the time and effort to show us what was there. For the many of us who could not get down there..
Yes cheers Justin, like your frank commentary on the gear you saw.:):cool:
Beobloke
28-02-2017, 12:58
One filthy TT. Dirty tarts usually come cheap. Expensiveness obviously not close to cleanliness here.
If she cleaned up her act people might be prepared to pay the good money she is probably worth.
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I feel I should apologise for this one!
Decent Audio had an issue with the turntable they were intending to use and so asked for this one back, which I had been reviewing for the past three weeks. As I returned from a short break on the Thursday evening to this news, in my haste to pack it for travel in order to deliver it on time to them on the Friday morning, dusting it may have had to fall by the wayside!
:o
A few TAD shots. TAD Compact Evolution One loudspeaker. Worthy of a better room I think quite unable to justify itself and expose expensive speaker advantages in here. Nothing to complain about they clearly sounded fine this year, just not particularly memorable.
I like the higher end TADs. But they are damned expensive. I think they are best appreciated at the likes of Munich where the relative price to the rest of the gear/other loudspeakers at the show isn't high.
Personally, for £18K odd, I kind of want more loudspeaker than this. One that can displace some real air.
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Nice images thank you Justin
Though the speakers are the brand new Micro Evolution 1's (last year we ran the Compact Evolution 1's) and the cost is some five and half thousand pounds less per pair.
A big thank you for all of the very positive comments that room received.
hifinutt
28-02-2017, 19:29
and good to see you looking so well tony !:)
Nice images thank you Justin
Though the speakers are the brand new Micro Evolution 1's (last year we ran the Compact Evolution 1's) and the cost is some five and half thousand pounds less per pair.
A big thank you for all of the very positive comments that room received.
Ah - my assertion was based on the two leaflets I picked up in there - both for the Compact Evolution One.
Yes cheers Justin, like your frank commentary on the gear you saw.:):cool:
I hope what I say isn't taken too seriously, really. It was all done quickly whilst managing the media in a deliberate attempt to "get it done quick", whilst making a few points.
The Spendor comment was a bit harsh but I really was amused by the paradox at the time. The reason is probably simply what was playing in each room championing the actual speakers themselves. Or you'd hope:)
pgarrish
28-02-2017, 20:03
Cheers Justin, Brizzle is too far for me so this is useful. Interesting to compare your comments to the HiFiPig review.....
Hello Phil
Nice to see you as well, hope all is well with you and the family :)
For ourselves it was a very busy Bristol and would venture it was for quite a few exhibitors as well. One really pleasing aspect for many exhibitors was the amount of positivity that was evident about the show.
Plus a large contingent of new faces was pleasing to see as well.
Apart from the a very small smattering from self appointed audio guardians of the whippet thrashers and toe tappers forum, which bench marked everything against a steroid induced tune dem formula it was great.
Given the show was thirty years old this year and still in the same hotel the amount of visitors was encouraging.
Given the show was thirty years old this year and still in the same hotel the amount of visitors was encouraging.
I think I might have been to every single one of them. If I've missed one I can't remember it.
Shame Alternative Audio (http://www.alternativeaudio.co.uk/) didn't make it. I always enjoy the NAT amps and Analysis Audio Omega speakers. Less dynamic than an Apogee of similar size but still a very good sounding speaker. Planar magnetic speakers are thin on the ground, but my first encounter with one was the Omega. I got hooked...
hifinutt
08-03-2017, 15:10
Hello Phil
Nice to see you as well, hope all is well with you and the family :)
For ourselves it was a very busy Bristol and would venture it was for quite a few exhibitors as well. One really pleasing aspect for many exhibitors was the amount of positivity that was evident about the show.
Plus a large contingent of new faces was pleasing to see as well.
Apart from the a very small smattering from self appointed audio guardians of the whippet thrashers and toe tappers forum, which bench marked everything against a steroid induced tune dem formula it was great.
Given the show was thirty years old this year and still in the same hotel the amount of visitors was encouraging.
thanks tony , yes all well
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