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RobbieGong
12-02-2017, 19:11
What you using ?

Is there anything like this for audio http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-4-Cable-Pipe-Seperator-Gunmetal-Oil-Braided-Hosing-Brake-Pipe-Clips-/400288592857?hash=item5d330f33d9:m:mL8rdP74Fjc3Y7e wnTQ34vQ

jandl100
12-02-2017, 19:15
get those car accessory items cryogenically frozen and you can use them for audio cables :thumbsup:

:lol:

RobbieGong
12-02-2017, 19:17
get those car accessory items cryogenically frozen and you can use them for audio cables :thumbsup:

:lol:

Very helpful :ner:

mooblie
12-02-2017, 19:32
http://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-self-adhesive-mini-trunking-25mm-x-16mm-x-2m/64026
or
http://www.screwfix.com/p/mini-trunking-38mm-x-25mm-x-2m/95463

RobbieGong
12-02-2017, 19:36
Thanks but I was thinking something more along the lines of the link post #1 as in separate \ keep apart not hide

agk
12-02-2017, 19:41
I'm using an ambient spacer system, or air as its otherwise known. One of the joys of a simple setup being that I don't have a rat's nest to tidy.

Macca
12-02-2017, 21:39
Cable dressing... I just try and keep a few inches between the power and the signal ones. No power to the pre so only the power amp and source cables to worry about.

Being me I've deliberately tried runing them next to each other to see if I could notice any deterioration. I thought I could but I'd hate to try it blind. Still, it is best practice to separate them.

Helps if the amp has the power socket centrally placed, designers please take note, :)

struth
12-02-2017, 21:54
hard to tell what mine re doing as I cant see round back of them. but looks a mess. Think I once tried to make them tidier and hurt myself lol so they are what they are nowadays. dont have any problems anyways

JimC
12-02-2017, 22:37
Might do the job...............................

http://www.nordost.com/sort-systems/sort-lift.php

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Jim

struth
12-02-2017, 22:41
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cUgAAOSw7NNUKYaC/s-l500.jpg. bulldog clips.. cheap and work

agk
12-02-2017, 23:02
I'm bald but I am fairly sure those are a hair product Grant. :)

struth
12-02-2017, 23:04
I'm bald but I am fairly sure those are a hair product Grant. :)

yup, but work well with cables too. you can buy loads for pennies and just pop them round all cables it separates them from each other.

Wakefield Turntables
13-02-2017, 09:40
Good shielded cable should stop you from having to worry about separating cables. I have a "tidy" rats nest from my systems of I have notice ZERO difference cable dressing and rats nest configurations. ;)

jandl100
13-02-2017, 09:49
yup, but work well with cables too. you can buy loads for pennies and just pop them round all cables it separates them from each other.

:nono: - not for audio - :nono:

You have to cryogenically freeze them first. :thumbsup:

I must admit that I can't see what is wrong with using the car accessory thingies linked in post 1 - 8mm holes would be fine for most cables.

But then ....


I have a "tidy" rats nest from my systems of I have notice ZERO difference cable dressing and rats nest configurations. ;)

I agree. I recall tidying up my rat's nest of cables - I was really disappointed at not being able to hear any difference whatsoever.
So, it's just a free-fall free-for-all chez Jerry these days.

Spectral Morn
13-02-2017, 10:16
What you using ?

Is there anything like this for audio http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-4-Cable-Pipe-Seperator-Gunmetal-Oil-Braided-Hosing-Brake-Pipe-Clips-/400288592857?hash=item5d330f33d9:m:mL8rdP74Fjc3Y7e wnTQ34vQ

Only potential problem being - if you give credence to such - is these are made of metal therefore are magnetic.

I just dress the cables so no mains cable runs along side signal cables, if cables have to cross each other then its at right angles.

I think dressing cables well makes sense from a standpoint of being able to easily swap stuff out and see where cables are going. I also think running mains cables near signal cables could effect the signal cables, but I have never done a side by side comparison, so do it purely to be neat.

I know some folks are uber anal about this, even not letting cables touch walls, floors and racks - I am not one of those types.

Macca
13-02-2017, 10:24
Only potential problem being - if you give credence to such - is these are made of metal therefore are magnetic.

I just dress the cables so no mains cable runs along side signal cables, if cables have to cross each other then its at right angles.

I think dressing cables well makes sense from a standpoint of being able to easily swap stuff out and see where cables are going. I also think running mains cables near signal cables could effect the signal cables, but I have never done a side by side comparison, so do it purely to be neat.

I know some folks are uber anal about this, even not letting cables touch walls, floors and racks - I am not one of those types.

I try to do that ever since reading about it here years ago. People who reckoned they could hear a difference if a cable was touching the wall or not. I mean, no, you almost certainly can't hear that, but it is a free tweak and not that hard to do. I draw the line at cable lifters, mind. Everyone has to have a line.

Spectral Morn
13-02-2017, 10:37
I try to do that ever since reading about it here years ago. People who reckoned they could hear a difference if a cable was touching the wall or not. I mean, no, you almost certainly can't hear that, but it is a free tweak and not that hard to do. I draw the line at cable lifters, mind. Everyone has to have a line.

Cable lifters seem silly, but having never tried it I have no real opinion about it.

Dressing cables neatly only costs time.

walpurgis
13-02-2017, 10:42
Keeping signal cables away from mains leads and equipment mains transformers makes sense. If you've ever used unscreened interconnect cables, you'll be aware that hum is picked up quite easily and although not necessarily audible with screened cables, it's possible that the mains influence could still be having an undesirable effect.

Macca
13-02-2017, 10:44
Aye, not tried it either. If I was going to I certainly wouldn't pay money for the lifters. I mean it is very doubtful they do anything to begin with, let alone they should need to be made of rare African hardwood and cost £500 each. I have a speaker cable that goes across a thoroughfare anyway so to avoid creating a tripwire I would need to raise that cable up by six feet. That's not going to happen.

I have heard a very expensive system that used fancy cable lifters. It was, to be frank, shit. Probably not the fault of the lifters but it did occur to me that it was really not worth them bothering with such ephemera until they had the thing sounding at least acceptable to begin with.

Spectral Morn
13-02-2017, 10:50
Keeping signal cables away from mains leads and equipment mains transformers makes sense. If you've ever used unscreened interconnect cables, you'll be aware that hum is picked up quite easily and although not necessarily audible with screened cables, it's possible that the mains influence could still be having an undesirable effect.

Which is the reason I do it.