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Sixty2
07-02-2017, 12:36
For sale only, no swaps please as I'm sorted. The P1SE Signature is a single input power amp with a volume control - there's no need for a pre amp, though a phono stage is required. Coan obviously still be used with an active or passive pre, just like any other power amp. This is the power amp section of the highly acclaimed OTO Signature. Very well specked with; IHIB C- Core Copper Transformers, AN Copper Foil Capacitors and Tantalum resistors. The RAL 8029 Copper front Fascia with 'Bespoke' graphics is a 'one off', making this particular Audio Note amplifier unique. Pics on page 10 of this thread. If you want more pics, just pm me an email. For sale @ £1900.00 - can’t justify selling this for less right now. This amp is only 16 months old with very light use! Priced for collection from Harrogate. Couriering organised by and at buyers expense. Thanks for looking. 62.

struth
07-02-2017, 12:50
Ok will hold off for a while

Marco
07-02-2017, 13:11
Peter (petrat) has kindly offered to post some pics so mods, please give him a little time to do this.

Hi Mark,

On this occasion, I will allow until the end of today for pics to be supplied, before the ad is deleted.

The rules are that pictures must be supplied *at the time of posting the ad*, not afterwards. Therefore, if you're arranging for someone else to upload pics on your behalf, then either he or she must supply you with the relevant links (from Photobucket or whatever) beforehand, so you can include them in your advert.

Or if the person helping you is going to add the pictures separately, then they must do so immediately after you've posted the ad itself, so that the ad is complete. In that respect, it's simply a matter of liaising with each other. Essentially, ads and pics must automatically accompany each other. Anyway, I've outlined the procedure, so that in future you'll know the score :)

I'm sure that Peter will be along soon to post the necessary pictures :cool:

Marco.

petrat
07-02-2017, 13:15
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Sixty2
07-02-2017, 13:25
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10-02-2017, 13:48
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farflungstar
10-02-2017, 13:59
Lovely... Sigh...

In perpetual pursuit.

Sixty2
13-02-2017, 12:42
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Sixty2
31-05-2017, 11:33
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Lawrence001
31-05-2017, 13:33
Is the warranty transferable? If so then its a great deal, you've basically burned it in for someone, and paid them for doing it!

Sixty2
31-05-2017, 13:51
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Sixty2
31-05-2017, 15:14
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Lawrence001
31-05-2017, 20:08
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Sixty2
31-05-2017, 21:05
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southall-1998
31-05-2017, 21:26
Audio Note, sometimes needs a kick up the arse!

GLWS!

S.

Sixty2
31-05-2017, 21:43
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Bigman80
31-05-2017, 22:28
The above is not a reference to Audio Note in any way. Had dealing with them for nearly 30 years and their customer service is second to non in my book. I'm just trying to sell a superb Audio Note amp at a bargain price. Perhaps I need to cut off my right arm as part of the deal! Adios.
How long is the arm? 😁

Just making light of a frustrating situation 👍

It will sell eventually, everything does.

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Sixty2
01-06-2017, 07:17
:)

petrat
01-06-2017, 08:03
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petrat
01-06-2017, 19:50
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Sixty2
01-06-2017, 20:11
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Ninanina
02-07-2017, 19:08
I can't believe you have not sold your AN mark

I have owned AN for over 10 years and they are very well made amps and nobody should worry about warranties etc as they are built to last with very few problems

I have never heard any of their 'signature' range but even their standard range is very good indeed so your amp is a bargain, especially now with the passive pre included.. ;)

Sixty2
02-07-2017, 20:03
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04-07-2017, 17:42
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hifinutt
04-07-2017, 18:36
will we see it at Harrogate hopefully ?

Sixty2
04-07-2017, 22:31
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16-07-2017, 20:33
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petrat
16-07-2017, 21:14
Sorry, Mark .... photobucket has stopped allowing third-party hosting, so the forum can't access the photos anymore from my account (now closed, in protest).

Anyone interested in this lovely amplifier should PM Mark so he can email you the pics.

Sixty2
16-07-2017, 21:39
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petrat
25-08-2017, 19:12
Top quality amp, this. Nice, custom finish, too :thumbsup:
GLWTS, Mark.

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ERICLIMPIT
25-08-2017, 20:16
'tiz a lovely thing Marko at a nice price :clap: for what is essentially a single input OTO signature!, and if you don't like the colour of the facia :uhho: AN could supply a black or silver one.

petrat
25-08-2017, 20:24
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Sixty2
25-08-2017, 21:46
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Lawrence001
26-08-2017, 06:10
The original post seems to be missing now with all the info.

Sixty2
26-08-2017, 07:12
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WESTLOWER
31-08-2017, 08:17
Shame, that's not the AoS Spirit Mark ...

Ammonite Audio
31-08-2017, 10:53
Finally 'throwing in the towel' on here with this sale. Absolute waste of time!

List it (carefully and comprehensively) on eBay and it will find its value, probably a higher value than you'd get on any of the forums.

Audio Al
31-08-2017, 11:31
Finally 'throwing in the towel' on here with this sale. Absolute waste of time!

Wooow , slow down Mark , Your item is high quality and expensive , most of us would love this but funds dont allway allow , Its summer , holidays need paying for , children need entertaining for 6 weeks , it all costs money , It will sell eventually you just need Mr right or Mrs right

Chill out sir , and no its not a waist of time ;)

SLS
31-08-2017, 12:01
Wooow , slow down Mark , Your item is high quality and expensive , most of us would love this but funds dont allway allow , Its summer , holidays need paying for , children need entertaining for 6 weeks , it all costs money , It will sell eventually you just need Mr right or Mrs right

Chill out sir , and no its not a waist of time ;)

He may have a point. I've listed quite a lot of fairly expensive kit on AoS, get lots of comments about how lovely it is, wish I had the money, etc. and never had a serious offer. So lots of time spent reading and replying to posts that don't get closer to a sale. All sold elsewhere, on other forums tend just to get a PM and that's it.

I'm much more into photography and buy (quite a lot) of Leica and sell (occasionally). Always do through authorised dealers, they sell on 15% commission, normally very quickly. Painless. The audio industry could do with something like that, although the problem seems to be that the market for expensive esoteric equipment like AN is very small indeed.

farflungstar
31-08-2017, 12:08
It's also the collection only that can put folks off. Ive been willing to take a punt on a few things but not able to ship.

SLS
31-08-2017, 12:12
Never found shipping a problem. Use Pharos, recommended by HiFi Dave. Recently sent Harbeth speakers from London to Chicago, got there 2 days later, and am sending big heavy valve amps to a buyer next week.

The problem is that most boxes have limited life, so the problem is usually the packaging, not the couriers.

WESTLOWER
31-08-2017, 14:28
It's no good slagging the AoS off because the top end item for sale didn't have any takers..YET!
Besides, I may be wrong, but I can't see any other posts by Sixty2 (Mark) other than selling/buying posts. No contributions to any other threads...
Is that the ethos?


He may have a point. I've listed quite a lot of fairly expensive kit on AoS, get lots of comments about how lovely it is, wish I had the money, etc. and never had a serious offer. So lots of time spent reading and replying to posts that don't get closer to a sale. All sold elsewhere, on other forums tend just to get a PM and that's it.

I'm much more into photography and buy (quite a lot) of Leica and sell (occasionally). Always do through authorised dealers, they sell on 15% commission, normally very quickly. Painless. The audio industry could do with something like that, although the problem seems to be that the market for expensive esoteric equipment like AN is very small indeed.

SLS
31-08-2017, 14:48
Whether Mark posts to other threads all day or never is not the point.
I was defending him after he was slagged off for going to eBay, which for some things is very good. What's more, I reckon more people read it.
My experience of selling here is a matter of fact. It's not like I suggested other forums to go to, but I have sold a couple of things for satisfactory prices to Elite Audio, the used trading arm of Audio Emotion.


It's no good slagging the AoS off because the top end item for sale didn't have any takers..YET!
Besides, I may be wrong, but I can't see any other posts by Sixty2 (Mark) other than selling/buying posts. No contributions to any other threads...
Is that the ethos?

SLS
31-08-2017, 14:57
I would add that I have made most of my sales to overseas buyers. They are simple and straightforward. UK buyers often involve endless emails and questions, much more hard work.

Selling Quad overseas is really easy. Persuade the buyer to get to pay for a service and re-cap and Quad will send anywhere for about £20. They will also re-box for about £12.

Macca
31-08-2017, 15:44
If you are going to sell something for a couple of grand I think it is fair enough to answer a few questions about it. Just because some bloke in a foreign country doesn't ask questions doesn't make that the standard.

Given that we don't charge anything for membership and don't charge anything for posting sales advertisements it is more than a little churlish to be criticising the site if it doesn't sell. As someone upthread pointed out, this didn't sell primarily because it is offered as collection only. Surprisingly most people don't fancy doing what might easily be a 1000 mile round trip to pick up an amplifier.

This is also true of eBay sales. If you want to sell quickly on a collection only sale then you need to discount heavily to make the journey worthwhile.

This isn't rocket science, folks.

SLS
31-08-2017, 16:06
If you are going to sell something for a couple of grand I think it is fair enough to answer a few questions about it. Just because some bloke in a foreign country doesn't ask questions doesn't make that the standard.

Given that we don't charge anything for membership and don't charge anything for posting sales advertisements it is more than a little churlish to be criticising the site if it doesn't sell. As someone upthread pointed out, this didn't sell primarily because it is offered as collection only. Surprisingly most people don't fancy doing what might easily be a 1000 mile round trip to pick up an amplifier.

This is also true of eBay sales. If you want to sell quickly on a collection only sale then you need to discount heavily to make the journey worthwhile.

This isn't rocket science, folks.

I've not criticised AoS, only stated my experience selling here. Call me a liar if you want. I do think collection-only is seriously limiting the chance of a sale and totally unnecessary. Manufacturers send stuff all over the world. Couriers tend to be careful as their reputation depends on it. A 20kg box may be heavy for you, but for couriers it's not an issue. Anyone who sends uninsured deserves and problems they may have.

Hope Mark has better luck on eBay and he could do worse than putting a call into Elite Audio.

Selling into Europe is a much better option these days as the £ is so weak, so stuff here is seen as really cheap. I bought an MDAC+ when it came out for £650 new and sold it to a guy in Germany in January for £600. He said he would have bought it new from a UK dealer otherwise, much cheaper than in Germany.

Spectral Morn
31-08-2017, 16:45
Right place, right time, right buyer. At the end of the day it can be all about timing and making the item attractive to any potential buyers. I have sold a few things, a few things not, such is life.

My Ortofon cart had a nibble, but I was worried about selling something that might have not been ok, so withdrew it from sale till I checked it out. No nibbles since I relisted it but I am happy I can offer it knowing its 100% ok and fit to be sold. It will take as long as it takes.

In fairness guys we don't know what pressure there is to sell that Audio Note so the frustration might well be born out of desperation of need, rather than bad form. In saying that deleting most of the listing is childish and not on really.

Macca
31-08-2017, 16:53
I've not criticised AoS, only stated my experience selling here. Call me a liar if you want. .

I don't want and I am sure you are not lying. But the reason for no sale could be any one of a dozen, the site it is posted on isn't really one of them, unless it has a low footfall -which AoS doesn't. I've posted some good gear at silly low prices and had no takers, I've posted other kit that is sold within hours and if I'd had ten of them I could have sold all ten. I think the current record on here from posting to sale is under 2 minutes.

SLS
31-08-2017, 17:21
I don't want and I am sure you are not lying. But the reason for no sale could be any one of a dozen, the site it is posted on isn't really one of them, unless it has a low footfall -which AoS doesn't. I've posted some good gear at silly low prices and had no takers, I've posted other kit that is sold within hours and if I'd had ten of them I could have sold all ten. I think the current record on here from posting to sale is under 2 minutes.

I've posted really good gear here at silly prices, one item I marked SOLD today as I sold it elsewhere, has taken a year to sell. I once mentioned I might have a 909 for sale and got about 5 PM's and sold it before even having to advertise it.

Problem is, it's valves which are difficult to sell and generally depreciate heavily, its bespoke and it's expensive. I've sold a pricey valve amp for more, but it took a while, and not here. I've bought via audio-markt.de, they have far more listings and coverage than any other site as there are listings from all over Europe, including from the UK. It also appears to me that the Brits are meaner than most when it comes to hifi, the Germans, French and Dutch are overall prepared to spend much more. My £4k valve amp, a guy came over from Paris with a trolley to buy it.

The valves I've just sold I originally bought on Audiogon in the USA and got shipped over. No hassles, except you have to pay the VAT and Duty. With the £/$ I'd advertise there as you can normally send stuff over without the buyer paying the Duty. I sent over Harbeth's to the USA that weighed 40kg, cost $160.

Just saying, if you really want to sell and get a good price, the world's your oyster.

Macca
31-08-2017, 17:35
I've posted really good gear here at silly prices, one item I marked SOLD today as I sold it elsewhere, has taken a year to sell. I once mentioned I might have a 909 for sale and got about 5 PM's and sold it before even having to advertise it.

Problem is, it's valves which are difficult to sell and generally depreciate heavily, its bespoke and it's expensive. I've sold a pricey valve amp for more, but it took a while, and not here. I've bought via audio-markt.de, they have far more listings and coverage than any other site as there are listings from all over Europe, including from the UK. It also appears to me that the Brits are meaner than most when it comes to hifi, the Germans, French and Dutch are overall prepared to spend much more. My £4k valve amp, a guy came over from Paris with a trolley to buy it.

People look for bargains here, I agree, I don't know about national differences but it is a buyer's market here for all except the rarest and most coveted kit so I don't think it is unreasonable to only buy if it is a very keen price. Especially if you have to collect. As far as AoS is concerned the classified section is provided as a courtesy to members who want to sell or buy. That's it. We are not aiming to be audio-markt or any of the similar for profit trading sites.

I agree that it is odd what does and doesn't sell. We had 2 lots of excellent KEF speakers up for sale earlier in the year, silly cheap, collection only but in London area. Not sure if either even sold at all, or if they did it took forever. That was unbelievable.

Perhaps there is a link between the makes of kit that are often discussed on this site and how quickly a sale will be made. I'd expect, say, a Naim amp to sell more quickly on PFM than here, for example. But I have no data to back that up.

SLS
31-08-2017, 17:39
People look for bargains here, I agree, I don't know about national differences but it is a buyer's market here for all except the rarest and most coveted kit so I don't think it is unreasonable to only buy if it is a very keen price. Especially if you have to collect. As far as AoS is concerned the classified section is provided as a courtesy to members who want to sell or buy. That's it. We are not aiming to be audio-markt or any of the similar for profit trading sites.

I agree that it is odd what does and doesn't sell. We had 2 lots of excellent KEF speakers up for sale earlier in the year, silly cheap, collection only but in London area. Not sure if either even sold at all, or if they did it took forever. That was unbelievable.

Perhaps there is a link between the makes of kit that are often discussed on this site and how quickly a sale will be made. I'd expect, say, a Naim amp to sell more quickly on PFM than here, for example. But I have no data to back that up.

You are correct. I sold a Naim UQ2 on PFM. Had about 5 offers in a day.

I was only trying to to give Mark some constructive advice.

When I come to sell my son's recently Quickie/Wonfor refurbished Inca Tech Claymore, AoS may be my best best !

struth
31-08-2017, 17:45
its aso true that some folk sell easier than others; if your well known and trusted etc, sure that makes a difference but no postage is a huge disadvantage. Often without it it is just luck that there is someone after it who is nearbye.

Macca
31-08-2017, 17:56
You are bringing your son up in the ways of Box-Swapping. You do honour to your ancestors. ;)

SLS
01-09-2017, 19:56
its aso true that some folk sell easier than others; if your well known and trusted etc, sure that makes a difference but no postage is a huge disadvantage. Often without it it is just luck that there is someone after it who is nearbye.

Sending two 20kg valve amplifiers up North, three boxes insured for £2,000, total shipping and insurance is £75. Probably less than petrol money. Thanks again to HiFi Dave for Pharos recommendation.

Never had a problem with trust, mostly sell to complete strangers.

SLS
01-09-2017, 20:05
You are bringing your son up in the ways of Box-Swapping. You do honour to your ancestors. ;)

The Claymore was his first amp and his last for a long while, as with the rest of the system. He's 20, a music nut and collects vinyl, as does his girlfriend and her dad. Most of his listening is on headphones or our main system. If he is anything to go by, the component audio industry has not got long to live. Same with me, Devialet and Harbeth, end of story. So sadly no box-swapping here !

Sixty2
01-09-2017, 20:18
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duo(2)
02-09-2017, 08:48
Sorry, i dont want to be disrespectful, ;-/
but the price that this very nice amp is offered for, is not that far from what it probably would be possiple to buy from a dealer as a new amp, many dealers offer a large discount or take other gear in as a part of the trade.
Based on that and on my own experience trading secondhand gear, i think that the price of used gear has to be at 50% or even lower if one wants to sell it on the different secondhand sites.
i dont Think that it is what it should cost, in a perfect reasonable world, but my experience tells me that it mostly has to be offered at around that price level to get sold.

Sixty2
02-09-2017, 19:30
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Lawrence001
19-09-2017, 22:02
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ERICLIMPIT
20-09-2017, 09:14
For what its worth, I have had dealings with Mark in the past (a pair of rather nice AN-e spe) and can confirm he is a totally trustworthy bloke. And I completely understand his reticence about postage, after recently taking delivery from UPS a pair of Yamaha NS speakers that appeared to have gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson:punch: yes they were insured but its hassle you really don't need. Good luck with the sale Mark the amp is worth every penny.

Sixty2
20-09-2017, 10:10
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montesquieu
20-09-2017, 22:57
Sorry, i dont want to be disrespectful, ;-/
but the price that this very nice amp is offered for, is not that far from what it probably would be possiple to buy from a dealer as a new amp, many dealers offer a large discount or take other gear in as a part of the trade.
Based on that and on my own experience trading secondhand gear, i think that the price of used gear has to be at 50% or even lower if one wants to sell it on the different secondhand sites.
i dont Think that it is what it should cost, in a perfect reasonable world, but my experience tells me that it mostly has to be offered at around that price level to get sold.

Inclined to agree with this. I wouldn't want to be an AN dealer, the deals PQ does when selling direct. List price is not that relevant.

SLS
21-09-2017, 05:57
I was probably the person being referred to. Just sold my valve amps (elsewhere). Immaculate, UK top brand, rebuilt as new. “List” price is over 6k, could get new for 5, I advertised at 2.8 and sold at 2.1. Took 9 months. That may give you an indication of the market for expensive valve amps. Take an ultra popular brand like Harbeth, I sold SHL5+ for 80% of what I paid new, partly as I sold to the USA where they are more expensive, but would have got at least 70% in the UK. It’s not AOS’s fault, I just think there is no real market for some esoteric stuff.


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Sixty2
21-09-2017, 07:56
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01-11-2017, 18:57
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Marco
01-11-2017, 22:54
Here we go....

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Nice bit of kit! Good luck with the sale, Mark :cool:

Marco.

Sixty2
02-11-2017, 07:08
Thanks again Marco. Amp and fascia are perfect - just reflections on the fascia. At £2k, this beauty is in Harrogate. 62.

Bigman80
02-11-2017, 07:24
Good luck with the sale, Mark. I really hope it sells for you!

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Berni217
02-11-2017, 18:23
Very nice piece of kit... Good luck!


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Sixty2
04-11-2017, 10:22
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farflungstar
04-11-2017, 10:25
Never thought I’d do this. £1950.00.I wouldn't go any lower unless you really are desperate to move it on. It will sell at some point the fact that it's collection only really limits buyers.

Sixty2
04-11-2017, 10:32
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farflungstar
04-11-2017, 11:57
I know that feeling.

ovlov854
04-11-2017, 17:43
Take heart it will sell
Be prepared to post...find some bomb proof packaging or meet half way?

Sixty2
04-11-2017, 18:42
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farflungstar
04-11-2017, 18:45
If you have the original packaging and it was good enough for audio note to ship around the world I cant see your point.

It's true that I crap it when I'm having something shipped to me here in Spain but as long as the original packaging is used it's usually not a problem.

struth
04-11-2017, 18:49
Well I see his point. I would be dubious with something like that myself

farflungstar
04-11-2017, 18:58
Yes I get it, but some sheets of 5mm ply inside the box for strengthening is cheap and easy to do and an extra outer box helps. There are ways to protect.

Sixty2
04-11-2017, 20:04
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Ninanina
04-11-2017, 20:15
Mark just a thought but I am sure AN could supply you with some suitable boxes for the amp, it may cost a bit but probably worth it if you can then ship it

When I owned a pair of Stirling Broadcast LS3/5a's I lost the boxes in a move so I ordered new double boxes direct from Stirling, exactly the same as Stirling use to ship their speakers worldwide, so I could then ship the speakers, it did cost me about £40 but well worth it to guarantee the item arrives in perfect condition, which they did ;)

farflungstar
04-11-2017, 20:24
[QUOTE=farflungstar;914906]If you have the original packaging and it was good enough for audio note to ship around the world I cant see your point.

It's true that I crap it when I'm having something shipped to me here in Spain but as long as the original packaging is used it's usually not a problem.[/QUOT

The point is that I picked this up from the AN factory so it is NOT double boxed. Is that good enough?You can always get in touch wth PQ at audio note and get the packaging. And why the attitude? I'm only trying to help you sell it - my intentions are well meaning.

Sixty2
04-11-2017, 20:40
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farflungstar
04-11-2017, 20:43
Yes. I was merely trying to offer a possible solution to a great amp that's been for sale for almost a year. But I'll bow out and wish the seller the best of luck.

Ninanina
04-11-2017, 20:45
Not too sure what folks are missing. From the OP, it clearly says that it’s collection only. Over and out!

I think we are just trying to help you sell the amp Mark and I know from experience that if you are prepared to ship you open up a whole lot of people to sell to ;)

ovlov854
06-11-2017, 13:13
[QUOTE=farflungstar;914906]If you have the original packaging and it was good enough for audio note to ship around the world I cant see your point.

It's true that I crap it when I'm having something shipped to me here in Spain but as long as the original packaging is used it's usually not a problem.[/QUOT

The point is that I picked this up from the AN factory so it is NOT double boxed. Is that good enough?

I am not taking a swipe at Sixty2 but the moral of this storey is always get/keep original packaging i....it saves hassle.

I was talking to a Rep the other day on this subject....he had found that some couriers are now refusing to cough up for damage unless in original packing Take heed Guys

Sixty2
09-11-2017, 17:21
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Sixty2
20-11-2017, 13:16
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SLS
20-11-2017, 20:49
You could spend 2018 doing a few hundred more posts or walk round Harrogate with it on a Saturday afternoon in case someone wants it.

As suggested months ago, speak to Pharos. I have send valve amps, large speakers, all sorts of stuff to Europe and the USA, no hassles. And if the plane crashes into the Atlantic it will be insured. They will tell you how to pack it.

So will I. It does not have to be double boxed, just in a box made of double thick card. Put it in a bin liner. The packing has to be at least 2 inches on all sides. You could get the box and polystyrene from a local store, probably for free, or for £5 I'm sure J Rolph & Son will give you some foam off-cuts. Lots of brown packing tape and fragile stickers from the post office.

I sold my Art Audio valve monoblocks for 40% of a discounted retail price, about one third list price (if there is such a thing for these made to order units). They were newly rebuilt, like new. Low powered valve amps are just hard to shift. Just saying.

To give you an idea, Emporium have a mint Border Patrol 300B for £2.5k, they are about £8.5k new. On top of which, a clean P1SE has been listed recently for CHF1,500 which is £1,150.

Sixty2
20-11-2017, 21:33
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Lawrence001
20-11-2017, 22:59
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Sixty2
20-11-2017, 23:15
Hi Lawrence,

I’d be grateful if you’d point me in the direction of the ad for ‘the cheaper’ 14 month old P1SE Signature you’ve seen on the other forums? I’ve obviously missed it. Thanks.

Johnny nocash
21-11-2017, 01:02
Translate this from the ad;
Verkaufe meinen 3 Jahre jungen Audio Note P1 SE

Then translate this;
Nur an Selbstabholer!

Add flights, a couple of lost working days or a weekend away in one of the most expensive places on the planet I'm sure it's a bargain.

Absolutely outrageous that the seller is asking people to take a giant step for mankind by getting all the way to Harrogate for a spotless, custom built, signature version, quality piece of kit.

SLS
21-11-2017, 01:19
Translate this from the ad;
Verkaufe meinen 3 Jahre jungen Audio Note P1 SE

Then translate this;
Nur an Selbstabholer!

After a couple of lost working days or a weekend in one of the most expensive places on the planet I'm sure it's a bargain.

Absolutely outrageous that the seller is asking people to take a giant step for mankind by getting to Harrogate for a spotless custom built piece of quality kit.

When I went to get my wife's engagement ring I flew early to Antwerp, went to the diamond exchange, had time for a cup of tea and was back in the office in London before lunch. He's just outside Zurich, so reckon could be back by 3. Once spent a week nearby in Basel on business, most boring place on earth but a nice art museum (Kunstmuseum Basel). You can get a nice cup of tea in Harrogate, so I'm told.

CH is so damned efficient he could probably get it gift-wrapped with a nice bow and on your doorstep the next morning. They're like that. I doubt Audio Note hand delivered it to CH either.

I wouldn't go to CH for a weekend, not even for a nice bit of audio. (Apologies for any Swiss I may have offended.)

I once bought an amplifier from a dealer in Sicily and he sent it surface mail with more stamps than you've ever seen. Took a month.

I did mention a while back that its a great time to sell to the € zone because the £ is weak.

Another shipping option is to use someone like Seabourne, who do Fine Art and Hazardous Goods shipping. Only trying to help.

Marco
21-11-2017, 10:14
Guys, I would remind you of the rules for this section of the forum, especially in respect of thread crapping:

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?45763-***-WARNING-everyone-PLEASE-READ-!!-***

Anyone found guilty of such again on this thread, or others in the classifieds section, will be banned without further warning.

Marco.

Lawrence001
21-11-2017, 13:15
Hi Lawrence,

I’d be grateful if you’d point me in the direction of the ad for ‘the cheaper’ 14 month old P1SE Signature you’ve seen on the other forums? I’ve obviously missed it. Thanks.

Your ad on pfm, £1900 vs £1950 here. My point was, you won't get much interest here if it is advertised cheaper on another forum.

Sixty2
21-11-2017, 13:56
Bump.

Sixty2
18-01-2018, 19:56
Pics are on page 10 of this thread. Very long shot I know (stranger things have happened though!!) and would consider a swap for a newish, perfect condition Audio Note Conqueror 300B power amp with price adjustment either way. Thanks for looking. 62.

Sixty2
22-01-2018, 09:20
Back up for sale again, £1900.00, collected from Harrogate. Don’t want to courier this beauty as I’ve had some BAD experiences with couriers! Folks on here will no doubt say that collection only hinders sales. I’ve seen many examples on the UK sites where this has not been the case and collection seems to work fine! Thanks for looking.

lordmortlock
22-01-2018, 09:33
Perhaps let buyers arrange a courier at their own expense and risk Mark? Then it’s completely up to them.

Sixty2
22-01-2018, 09:41
Thanks Jake. I collected this from Audio Note myself so doesn’t have the ‘outer’ box - I’ll sort one out today. If anyone wants more photos of this superb amp, just pm me an email.

Sixty2
24-01-2018, 09:08
Mid week Bump! Can source an Audio Note outer box for couriering.

Sixty2
26-01-2018, 10:25
Hurray, it’s Friday, so a weekend Bump!

Sixty2
26-01-2018, 16:32
Had no intention to post twice in one day. I can now offer this P1SE Signature for £1795.00, less than HALF the current RRP. The ‘bespoke’ front fascia is unique and a ‘one off’. To all you Audio Note lovers, this is SERIOUSLY good for the money! Pics on page 10 of this thread. Collection only. Thanks for looking. 62.

ERICLIMPIT
27-01-2018, 14:23
'tiz a thing of beauty Mark, cant believe no takers at this price:scratch:... properly good EL84 amp

Sixty2
27-01-2018, 15:01
Thanks Roger and quite agreed!

Florence
28-01-2018, 15:19
I was thinking that at £1900 this was now very good value, at £1800 it is a billy bargain.

If I hadn't just got myself sorted I'd be all over this.

GLWTS

Sixty2
28-01-2018, 22:19
Thanks Graeme, and a ‘billy bargain’ indeed, especially @ £1750.00! Collection only, from Harrogate.

gonesailing
29-01-2018, 09:41
What speakers have you been using with this?

Sixty2
29-01-2018, 09:48
Hi Nigel.

ANJ LX with Blue Hemp, quite superb. I've owned many pairs of E's and prefer the J's I think.

gonesailing
29-01-2018, 09:50
Fancy selling them too?

Sixty2
29-01-2018, 09:51
I'll pm you.

Sixty2
30-01-2018, 09:07
Now £1725.00.

Sixty2
30-01-2018, 18:31
Now £1695.00. I'm not often speechless but after 13,000 hits, .......................!

gonesailing
31-01-2018, 12:07
I will be in touch next week.

Sixty2
03-02-2018, 10:40
Weekend bump for this seventeen month old Audio Note P1 Single Ended Signature power amp.

Sixty2
05-02-2018, 16:16
Now at a ‘no brainer’ £1650.00, collected.

Sixty2
05-02-2018, 18:46
Bump.

Sixty2
06-02-2018, 21:18
Absolute bargain. Stunning amp for little money!

Sixty2
08-02-2018, 14:40
SOLD.