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struth
28-01-2017, 22:56
Anyone know for sure if these box systems fit 12" records ok. Is there any others around same price that are worth consideration. I wanted to have some of my music out for playing as I struggle to get them out of the boxes they are in at moment any info gratefully received :D

topoxforddoc
28-01-2017, 22:59
Grant,

I have just checked. We have both Expedits and Kallexs at home. The internal dimensions are near damn identical - LPs and box sets will fit in fine.

Charlie

Simon_LDT
28-01-2017, 23:00
Yep, they are the perfect size for LP's (it's Kallax btw). I've got 2 of the 8 square ones (well 1 of those is the older Expedit, but they are the same size internally). Don't think there is any alternative at this price point.

struth
28-01-2017, 23:04
Thanks Charlie and Simon... yes I noticed I mis spelt doh!! Ok I wasnt sure as they dont give internal dimensions. A single 4 or 6 will do me I think. I have limited room and need them at a decent height as I cant get down too low now. Currently in the ali boxes Ive always kept them in.. great stuff, at least i know they will fit.

nthall
28-01-2017, 23:05
Anyone know for sure if these box systems fit 12" records ok. Is there any others around same price that are worth consideration. I wanted to have some of my music out for playing as I struggle to get them out of the boxes they are in at moment any info gratefully received :D
The kallax is perfectly sized for records. The need to be braced in my opinion. I had one for a while, and it didn't feel sturdy enough to trust my albums with. I braced it, and it worked fine. I ended up replacing it with shelves I built myself that fit the walls perfectly. There are plenty of other options, but they are a lot more expensive.

Amazon sells some double cube ones that aren't very expensive, that seem more stable. I have some stacked two high, that make a good base for setting some gear on too.

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struth
28-01-2017, 23:15
tHANKS.... iVE SENT AN EMAIL TO THE LASS. hOPEFULLY SHE CAN GET ONE FOR ME SOMETIME WHEN SHE IS OUT AND ABOUT IN eDINBURGH.

excuse the caps

walpurgis
28-01-2017, 23:18
excuse the caps

No! :lolsign:

struth
28-01-2017, 23:19
No! :lolsign:

i see youve changed sex buddy :eyebrows:

walpurgis
28-01-2017, 23:29
i see youve changed sex buddy :eyebrows:

Like the new look? :D

nthall
28-01-2017, 23:36
Looking good!

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struth
28-01-2017, 23:36
Like the new look? :D

Very sexy Geoff... hows about a date ;)

walpurgis
28-01-2017, 23:38
Prefer figs actually. :D

struth
28-01-2017, 23:40
Prefer figs actually. :D

she looks regular:D

Sherwood
29-01-2017, 00:14
I find they are fine without bracing though it might be worth fitting some wooden slats or dowels at the back as this stops adjacent LPs sliding back in the bay when you replace a record. It is easy to fit a dowel when you are putting the unit together as you can drill through the central upright panel and into each side wall before fitting the side panels.

Worth noting that the earlier Expedit which the Kallax replaced had thicker panel walls. Ikea is cheap but I think quality has declined over the years.

Geoff

nthall
29-01-2017, 00:24
I find they are fine without bracing though it might be worth fitting some wooden slats or dowels at the back as this stops adjacent LPs sliding back in the bay when you replace a record. It is easy to fit a dowel when you are putting the unit together as you can drill through the central upright panel and into each side wall before fitting the side panels.

Worth noting that the earlier Expedit which the Kallax replaced had thicker panel walls. Ikea is cheap but I think quality has declined over the years.

Geoff
I just screwed 1x2s across the center of each row, and painted them to match. I had the big one. It was probably fine without it, but it made me feel more secure. It kept the albums from sliding out the back too. Screwing it to the wall would probably be even better.

I've seen pictures of collapsed ones, but they looked like they had the wrong side on the floor, and all of the weight sitting on the dividers.

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Simon_LDT
29-01-2017, 01:34
I haven't braced mine and it's sturdy enough for me (and it's full, hence why I got another). I think it depends on how full it is and also the orientation. I should think they are tougher being upright as the actual shelves going across are 1 piece and the dividers help with the weight distribution. Having it the other way, all the weight is on the dividers.

I have noticed that some Ikea stuff seems cheaper now than a few years back but these Kallax while having a thinner outer frame, the actual shelves and dividers are the exact same thickness.

nthall
29-01-2017, 01:50
I haven't braced mine and it's sturdy enough for me (and it's full, hence why I got another). I think it depends on how full it is and also the orientation. I should think they are tougher being upright as the actual shelves going across are 1 piece and the dividers help with the weight distribution. Having it the other way, all the weight is on the dividers.

I have noticed that some Ikea stuff seems cheaper now than a few years back but these Kallax while having a thinner outer frame, the actual shelves and dividers are the exact same thickness.
They're not designed to sit on the side. That's not the shelves fault, it's on whoever put it together if it falls over. I think mine would have been fine without braces. It was full, and bracing it was more for my piece of mind. Putting screws into the fiberboard may have even made it weaker. If I was going to do it again I'd probably cover the the whole back in plywood. I ultimately ended up building my own, but if I ever move they're staying behind. There's no way to get them out in one piece.

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Simon_LDT
29-01-2017, 02:44
^ Yeah, but I've seen loads of pics where people have them on the side full of records and then lots of gear on top.

nthall
29-01-2017, 02:59
Trusting a cheap shelf from IKEA to protect all of the albums just made me paranoid. It probably wasn't justified. Their stuff is generally sturdy if you put it together right and don't try to move it around when it's fully loaded down.

They sell castors for them to set on. Rolling one around would scare the crap out of me. A rolling record wall would be cool though.

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alphaGT
29-01-2017, 04:51
I covered the back of my shelves with peg board, sturdy but lets air through. If that's important? I felt like it keeps things dry? But it worked great, and cost little. I was thinking all that weight makes a great base for your 'table! No footfalls going to bounce those shelves around!


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nthall
29-01-2017, 05:02
I covered the back of my shelves with peg board, sturdy but lets air through. If that's important? I felt like it keeps things dry? But it worked great, and cost little. I was thinking all that weight makes a great base for your 'table! No footfalls going to bounce those shelves around!


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They don't move around. The albums seem to absorb vibrations too. I can jump up and down on the floor in front of it.

The pegs could probably be adapted to keep all of your accessories and different headshells on too. I'm always misplacing my protractor.

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Bigman80
29-01-2017, 11:59
I put legs on mine to get it off the floor. Very sturdy

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170129/d0a2e5ccda0b6ef29da495554e23f1ba.jpg

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struth
29-01-2017, 14:44
Intend to both have it off floor and screwed to wall at same time. Daughter is doing some courses in Glasgow next month and she thinks an Ikea is near the place so might get it soon.

Bigman80
29-01-2017, 14:55
Very happy with mine. It's very secure. Not fixed it to the wall mind. I should do that really.

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Spectral Morn
29-01-2017, 16:30
All my record storage is via these Grant, they are ideal for it.

morris_minor
29-01-2017, 16:59
Ikea Kallax in my office . . . (now considerably fuller :))

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a442/morris_minor/IMG_1757_zpse6asgzz2.jpg

CageyH
29-01-2017, 18:55
I use Kallax for re ord storage.
The records slipping back is quite annoying.

Mine is pretty sturdy as I used a resin glue to bond everything together as I built it.
I just need to add something on the back and I will be happy.

Markiii
29-01-2017, 19:12
If you want something with doors the Ikea Besta range are also a perfect size for LPs

Clive
29-01-2017, 19:46
To stop records slipping too far back it's really quick to install stick-on plastic electrical conduit on the shelf. I hope what I'm saying is clear enough without a photo.

ReggieB
29-01-2017, 19:58
You might find this an interesting read: https://djworx.com/ikea-expedit-discontinued-now/

alphaGT
30-01-2017, 10:25
Ikea Kallax in my office . . . (now considerably fuller :))

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a442/morris_minor/IMG_1757_zpse6asgzz2.jpg

Wow! I could get lost in that collection! Impressive


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alphaGT
30-01-2017, 10:26
And the light fixtures are perfect!


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struth
30-01-2017, 11:08
Thanks for all the replies and info, pics etc. Great stuff.

morris_minor
01-02-2017, 15:01
I use Kallax for re ord storage.
The records slipping back is quite annoying.

Mine is pretty sturdy as I used a resin glue to bond everything together as I built it.
I just need to add something on the back and I will be happy.My Kallax has MDF backing and I use pipe insulation (cut to length with a breadknife :eyebrows:) to stop records from being pushed to the back of the unit.

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a442/morris_minor/IMG_1726_zpslt3ank2z.jpg

morris_minor
01-02-2017, 15:04
And the light fixtures are perfect!


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Spectral Morn
01-02-2017, 16:37
There you go Grant my Ikea record storage in two rooms, main listening room, and living room. Three high with CD racks to one side and Billys to the other. Sitting on top some of my collection of vintage FM tuners.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/004_zpsl4xjlxbd.jpg (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/davros124/media/004_zpsl4xjlxbd.jpg.html)

Living room, only music in here is vinyl, all my CDs, SACDs, DVDAs are in the listening room. Some more vintage FM tuners on top of this Ikea stack as well.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/005_zps7ajsrc8e.jpg (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/davros124/media/005_zps7ajsrc8e.jpg.html)

struth
01-02-2017, 16:52
Extremely neat Neil.... think i will move in :lol:

struth
01-02-2017, 16:53
My Kallax has MDF backing and I use pipe insulation (cut to length with a breadknife :eyebrows:) to stop records from being pushed to the back of the unit.

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a442/morris_minor/IMG_1726_zpslt3ank2z.jpg

Like the pipe insu... will do job cheaply

Spectral Morn
01-02-2017, 16:57
Extremely neat Neil.... think i will move in :lol:

Everything has its place Grant. Everything is stable and nothing has moved since doing this, been standing like this for two years or so. Only thing I should have done was put a backing on the back of the record units. In saying that to date its not been a problem.

struth
01-02-2017, 17:09
Everything has its place Grant. Everything is stable and nothing has moved since doing this, been standing like this for two years or so. Only thing I should have done was put a backing on the back of the record units. In saying that to date its not been a problem.

Being 3 smaller units they will be much better stressed and stable. Fitted flush to wall and you dont reall need backboard.my cds are all over as units are not big enough or the same

stairpost
01-02-2017, 19:52
I have a couple of the 2x2 Kallax racks, they were perfectly solid when full of vinyl and did a great job of keeping the room tidy. The only downside was that I played less records, I've always had my collection in rows on the floor, leaning against the wall (using wood to ensure a flat contact surface). So when I'm looking for a particular record to play I flick through the rows and always notice something else I want to listen to as well. When I had them in racks and could only see the edge of the plastic covers they are in, I found myself thinking of the album I want to listen to, pulling that one out and not really seeing anything else around it, and having a terrible memory (very terrible memory), I ended up listening to less and less vinyl. Now they are back on the floor in rows and I'm once again flicking through them it's great fun finding things I forgot I had.

I appreciate that my record collection is a great deal smaller than some of the collections here, and rows doesn't suit everyone, but racks didn't work for me.

Gazjam
02-02-2017, 10:52
Could you take a pic Rich, sounds interesting. :)

stairpost
02-02-2017, 12:04
Sorry about the dodgy pic.

The right hand side row is funk, soul and jazz, next to it is film soundtracks, the small pile in the middle is TV soundtracks, and the 2 rows on the left are everything else.

It works for me as it's not a big collection, I can imagine a lot of members collections are of a size that necessitates shelving though.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/stairpost/20170109_212537.jpg

CageyH
02-02-2017, 12:06
You can get storage racks that look similar to ones in record shops.
I have space in my listening room where I could use some for my modest collection.

Gazjam
02-02-2017, 15:29
Sorry about the dodgy pic.

The right hand side row is funk, soul and jazz, next to it is film soundtracks, the small pile in the middle is TV soundtracks, and the 2 rows on the left are everything else.

It works for me as it's not a big collection, I can imagine a lot of members collections are of a size that necessitates shelving though.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/stairpost/20170109_212537.jpg

Thanks.
Good way of accessing your vinyl, if I had more floorspace I'd maybe go down that route myself.

Use a 2x2 Kallax myself.
Originally had all my vinyl in plastic sleeves, but it seemed to take something away from flicking through them so got shot of 'em and gave them to a mate.

stairpost
02-02-2017, 20:48
You can get storage racks that look similar to ones in record shops.
I have space in my listening room where I could use some for my modest collection.

In my fantasy listening room that's exactly the sort of storage I'd have.

stairpost
02-02-2017, 20:50
Thanks.
Good way of accessing your vinyl, if I had more floorspace I'd maybe go down that route myself.

Use a 2x2 Kallax myself.
Originally had all my vinyl in plastic sleeves, but it seemed to take something away from flicking through them so got shot of 'em and gave them to a mate.

That's funny, I find the exact opposite, the seam at the top of the sleeve makes the perfect flick grip, and no wear and tear to the cover.

struth
02-02-2017, 20:55
That's funny, I find the exact opposite, the seam at the top of the sleeve makes the perfect flick grip, and no wear and tear to the cover.

being a collector once, all mine have always been in covers. Only com out if I will be selling them and usually not even then.Helps not just to keep cover clean but record too. They do take up a fair bit of room though making records a fair bit thicker

stairpost
02-02-2017, 21:06
being a collector once, all mine have always been in covers. Only com out if I will be selling them and usually not even then.Helps not just to keep cover clean but record too. They do take up a fair bit of room though making records a fair bit thicker

They certainly do add to the storage space needed, and I think another reason why shelving didn't work for me is the sleeve seam obscured the album spine, making it harder to see titles.

struth
02-02-2017, 21:23
Like the look of this for a unit too

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/images/products/brusali-tv-bench-brown__0354125_pe543686_s4.jpg

stairpost
03-02-2017, 19:46
Like the look of this for a unit too

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/images/products/brusali-tv-bench-brown__0354125_pe543686_s4.jpg

That is the sort of piece that dictates the style of the room decor.

Would look nice if done well.

Roy S
11-02-2017, 16:47
Living room, only music in here is vinyl, all my CDs, SACDs, DVDAs are in the listening room. Some more vintage FM tuners on top of this Ikea stack as well.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/005_zps7ajsrc8e.jpg (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/davros124/media/005_zps7ajsrc8e.jpg.html)

Looks good, are the units fixed together in some way & fastened to the wall?

Roy S
06-03-2017, 18:00
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170306/be72dd87020687b052efad63e284fbbd.jpg

Now sorted [emoji4]


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struth
06-03-2017, 18:04
Thought that was a strip of wallpaper hanging down Roy lol..its an arch. Funny how you see things sometimes.. looks good.. not got mine as of yet

walpurgis
06-03-2017, 19:00
Funny how you see things sometimes..

Depends what you've been smoking! :smoking:

Roy S
09-03-2017, 13:12
I use pipe insulation (cut to length with a breadknife :eyebrows:) to stop records from being pushed to the back of the unit.



Thanks, great idea I've now implemented (and a 1 metre length is just right for 3 sections)

Sherwood
10-03-2017, 08:55
Those contemplating buying a Kallax unit might like to scoot off to their local IKEA post haste. They currently have the black 8 bay unit on sale for £40 with a (free) Family Card. Not sure how long the promotion is on for though.

Geoff

nthall
10-03-2017, 14:21
Nice. I need another one. I'm overflowing into milk crates.

Sherwood
10-03-2017, 15:21
Nice. I need another one. I'm overflowing into milk crates.

Not sure the deal extends to the Cold Missouri Waters!

https://open.spotify.com/track/2X1k2gielYQb8yBoLeHpit

Geoff

nthall
10-03-2017, 15:22
It might. It's hard finding milk crates they fit in now too.