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macvisual
24-01-2017, 07:12
Does anyone know anything about these ? Vincent SP 991 Plus Class A monoblock power amplifiers.
My local'ish hi-fi shop (Audio Emotion - Scotland) have a used pair for sale. Any views/experience/knowledge would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
http://www.audioemotion.co.uk/vincent-sp-991-plus-class-a-monoblock-amplifiers-pair-10018-p.asp
(Peter)
Firebottle
24-01-2017, 08:14
They are not small are they :eek:
Apart from the size they are going to give out a lot of heat being 100W class A, plus increase your 'leccy bill. Just a couple of pointers for possible ownership.
:)
RothwellAudio
24-01-2017, 15:10
They may sound great, they may sound terrible - I don't know because I have no experience of them - but I would advise caution about thinking they must be great because they're big, expensive and class A. Have a listen if Audio Emotion is close enough to justify a speculative trip.
hard1175
24-01-2017, 16:58
I herd these many years ago at Sound of music in tunbridge wells.
Very good value for the money a good non fatiguing sound. Just watch your back when you lift or move them.
Bernie
hifi_dave
24-01-2017, 17:10
Obviously, you need to try them because at that price there is competition.
You also need to make sure there is back up if anything goes wrong.
Curious, what speakers would you be pushing with them?
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Dont know if it helps but I just sold my vincent sp-331 mk and thought it sounded incredible driving my dali epicon 2's. I can only imagine these would be even better as separate mono's and we'll worth an audition I don't think you will be disappointed!!
macvisual
25-01-2017, 01:00
Curious, what speakers would you be pushing with them?
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(German made) Audioplan Kontrast MkII floorstanding speakers - 88db efficient.
(German made) Audioplan Kontrast MkII floorstanding speakers - 88db efficient.
That could be a very good match!
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Can't say as I've heard Vincent gear but I have been lusting after one of their CD players for a while now. Looks to be beautifully made and designed equipment.
farflungstar
25-01-2017, 12:43
I've read good things about certain models and not so good for others. Won't they let you have them on home dem?
Adey
In perpetual pursuit.
macvisual
25-01-2017, 18:24
Yes, I believe I could have a home dem on these...... they do look quite large in size tho. We're off on holiday this weekend so will give it some thought.
Spectral Morn
26-01-2017, 11:51
Had the pleasure (not) of hearing Vincent gear when Sounds of Music were the distributor back in 2006, wasn't massively impressed with the only valve amp I saw and heard which looked like a small scale UK sourced valve amp brand that used to advertise in UK HiFi mags (can't recall the name) - which it probably was. Brand based in Germany selling Chinese identi-kit electronics as many were back then. I am afraid that swapping a few components and changing the name doesn't change the fact that much of this type of stuff was not much different to the Chinese kit it resembled and in reality still was.
I heard some higher end Vincent called TAC that looked nice and sounded ok, but subsequently saw similar gear under another brand name so felt confused to exactly what it was and where it was coming from. Its almost like, some companies were picking kit out of Chinese catalogues in order to create products for their brand name, instead of developing their own kit from scratch.
UK distribution of Vincent/TAC changed, the replacement distributor lost it after about a year, Ruark took it on briefly, then Missing Link took it on. Frankly even if it sounds good selling it on, if you don't like it, will be hard. Brand has little visibility in the UK market and its credibility isn't great.
hifi_dave
26-01-2017, 12:36
Sums it up well.
As a retailer I need to make sure that products not only sound good but should be well built, reliable, sensible, come from a good company with great backup. So many products don't tick all these boxes and disappear from the market. These will be very difficult to move on when the time comes or have to be sold at derisory prices.
Not a fan of Alfa Romeo then Dave?
walpurgis
29-01-2017, 23:19
Not a fan of Alfa Romeo then Dave?
:lolsign:
hifi_dave
30-01-2017, 10:25
Not a fan of Alfa Romeo then Dave?
I know nothing at all about cars except how to turn them on.
A friend did own a couple of Alfas and was very enthusiastic for a short while but they were very unreliable and a low speed shunt on the M25 in stationary traffic put him off for ever.
jandl100
02-02-2017, 19:41
These will be very difficult to move on when the time comes or have to be sold at derisory prices.
I'll be happy to have them for a derisory price when you sell them on, Peter. :thumbsup:
;)
Had the pleasure (not) of hearing Vincent gear when Sounds of Music were the distributor back in 2006, wasn't massively impressed with the only valve amp I saw and heard which looked like a small scale UK sourced valve amp brand that used to advertise in UK HiFi mags (can't recall the name) - which it probably was. Brand based in Germany selling Chinese identi-kit electronics as many were back then. I am afraid that swapping a few components and changing the name doesn't change the fact that much of this type of stuff was not much different to the Chinese kit it resembled and in reality still was.
I heard some higher end Vincent called TAC that looked nice and sounded ok, but subsequently saw similar gear under another brand name so felt confused to exactly what it was and where it was coming from. Its almost like, some companies were picking kit out of Chinese catalogues in order to create products for their brand name, instead of developing their own kit from scratch.
UK distribution of Vincent/TAC changed, the replacement distributor lost it after about a year, Ruark took it on briefly, then Missing Link took it on. Frankly even if it sounds good selling it on, if you don't like it, will be hard. Brand has little visibility in the UK market and its credibility isn't great.
Indeed; if you buy stuff from companies like that you either have to keep it or buy it cheap enough that it doesnt matter. Chinese gear if selected right ticks the right boxes. This latest dac/headphone amp for price is amazing. Hard to understand how they do it tbh. That amp Jerry bought is same, and the dac pre that Paul bought too, all tick the boxes.
If your spending real money then make it something that will sell on without losing much
hifinutt
03-02-2017, 04:17
yes in the old days you could box swap for for hearts content ....not any more .
I noticed a lovely good vfm Vincent integrated been up for sale for months with no sale but it does look good .
jandl100
03-02-2017, 05:36
A couple of years ago I had a Vincent cdp. Quite an upmarket machine, retail about £1750 iirc, used value around £500. Beautiful to look at and sounded great, a nice piece of kit.
But both incoming and outgoing were swap deals with no cash involved. Cash deals were much less likely imo.
The £2k for those amps rather takes them above that sort of swap deal I suspect.
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