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Ninanina
21-01-2017, 19:35
I have recently purchased some stone slabs to go under the LV's but was wondering if there is anything better to use apart from Blu Tack under the speakers to isolate them from the slabs
Any suggestions much appreciated.. :)
I had some marble slabs under mine and the best sound was using the 'rough' side up and using spikes which would grip on the rough side. The spike would slip on the polished side, but having polished side down had the advantage of sliding the speakers on the carpet for best positioning.
I cut the bottoms out of some silicone muffin moulds my fiance was throwing away. Presto! 1mm thick silicone pads.
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 21:13
I cut the bottoms out of some silicone muffin moulds my fiance was throwing away. Presto! 1mm thick silicone pads.
Thanks Andrew that's a great idea.. :)
09mike69
21-01-2017, 21:40
I have recently purchased some stone slabs to go under the LV's but was wondering if there is anything better to use apart from Blu Tack under the speakers to isolate them from the slabs
Any suggestions much appreciated.. :)
me an the kids were muckin about with playdough this mornin....(not on speakers,lol) kinda like blu-tac but not as sticky :lol:
be easier to level than spikes too.
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 21:53
me an the kids were muckin about with playdough this mornin....(not on speakers,lol) kinda like blu-tac but not as sticky :lol:
be easier to level than spikes too.
Thanks Mike I hadn't thought of Playdough....
farflungstar
21-01-2017, 21:53
If you want something that sticks I use something better than blutak. Buy some lead flashing, or the type used to insulate car doors from vibrations (eBay) and put in fridge. Then peel off the black bitumen from the 'lead' foil. It's marvellous stuff and unlike blutak doesn't get tacky or messy unless very very warm.
In perpetual pursuit.
walpurgis
21-01-2017, 22:02
What about using car engine core plugs? They are usually cadmium plated, so won't rust. Place them domed side up and use BluTak under them against the stone to stop them moving about.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45mm-Dish-type-core-plug-/201201270875?hash=item2ed887c05b:g:86MAAOSwEppUSWV F
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 22:05
If you want something that sticks I use something better than blutak. Buy some lead flashing, or the type used to insulate car doors from vibrations (eBay) and put in fridge. Then peel off the black bitumen from the 'lead' foil. It's marvellous stuff and unlike blutak doesn't get tacky or messy unless very very warm.
In perpetual pursuit.
Thanks Adrian... is this the sort of thing? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Sheets-Classic-Car-Bitumen-Sound-Deadening-Material-2-8Kg-2mm-Restoration-UK-/262442793056?hash=item3d1acf3860:g:JtYAAOSwyjBW2Lp g
farflungstar
21-01-2017, 22:09
Yup. Looks the same. I can check exactly which I bought if you like but it looks same. I bought them originally to act as a damping layer in the TT and by chance discovered the bitumen is great to use for other stuff and less messy than blutak which can go a bit weird after a while.
In perpetual pursuit.
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 22:42
Yup. Looks the same. I can check exactly which I bought if you like but it looks same. I bought them originally to act as a damping layer in the TT and by chance discovered the bitumen is great to use for other stuff and less messy than blutak which can go a bit weird after a while.
In perpetual pursuit.
Thanks Adrian
If you wouldn't mind checking what you got that'd be fantastic, thanks again
If you wouldn't mind checking what you got...
S'ok, she says that to all the boys! :D:eyebrows:
;)
Marco.
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 23:16
S'ok, she says that to all the boys! :D:eyebrows:
;)
Marco.
You gotta check these things Marco... :lol:
Once a 'size queen' always a size queen, eh? :D;)
Marco.
Ninanina
21-01-2017, 23:21
Once a 'size queen' always a size queen, eh? :D;)
Marco.
:rfl::rfl:
farflungstar
22-01-2017, 01:02
Will take a look tomorrow and get back..
Adey
In perpetual pursuit.
killie99
22-01-2017, 13:39
What about using car engine core plugs? They are usually cadmium plated[/url]
Don't think you can legally sell 'new' products with cadmium plating due to RoHS or is teh amount of cadmium so low it's exempt?
Lawrence001
22-01-2017, 16:36
Thanks Mike I hadn't thought of Playdough....
When I accidentally left some play dough out of the pot it went dry in a few weeks so it will probably not retain the desired property. I think the plasticene survived a lot longer though.
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farflungstar
23-01-2017, 22:30
Yup it's the same stuff.
Adey
In perpetual pursuit.
I used to use blutack - and then I had a pair of KEF speakers from new, and when I went to sell them on, the blutack had weakened the veneer such that a circular piece came off around one of the blutack blobs as I took the speaker off the stand.
I vowed never to use blutack again.
I now have small rubber feet stuck upside down on the top of my stands, and sit the speakers on them.
Simon_LDT
24-01-2017, 12:28
Sorbothane? Or is that stating the obvious... ? ;)
Cheap, better than blu-tak and doesn't leave marks or stains (had my speakers on them for a good 3-4 years now and they stick really well with the weight on them but always come off with ease and leaving no marks.
You could try Sugru:
https://sugru.com/about
WESTLOWER
24-01-2017, 17:04
Squash balls cut in half...
Ninanina
27-01-2017, 20:55
If you want something that sticks I use something better than blutak. Buy some lead flashing, or the type used to insulate car doors from vibrations (eBay) and put in fridge. Then peel off the black bitumen from the 'lead' foil. It's marvellous stuff and unlike blutak doesn't get tacky or messy unless very very warm.
In perpetual pursuit.
Adrian I got some bitumen/lead type flashing in the end... not fitted it yet but will try to this evening
It's like this: http://www.bond-it.co.uk/product/flashing-tape/ which has adhesive on one side
Measures 100mm by 10 meters and was only £7 so I can double it up if needed for the right thickness between speakers and plinth..
Thanks for your recommendation
Hi, PM sent.
Essentially: (for others who may be interested)...
(Hi, I too have some LVs (Auditorium Ibx - R2s).
I have them on spikes onto 'marble' slabs. Unfortunately under them is a carpet and then a suspended wooden floor with a metre or so of space under them. I found it 'boomed ' unless I used the 'marble' slabs.
If you have a similar set-up and have any advice I'd really appreciate it.
I love my Lvs but wish I had known that they really needed 40 inches between them and the back-wall. I've stuffed car-wash sponge in the ports for 'normal' (i.e. wife-present) situations.
BW
Richard.)
Ninanina
27-01-2017, 22:16
Hi, PM sent.
Essentially: (for others who may be interested)...
(Hi, I too have some LVs (Auditorium Ibx - R2s).
I have them on spikes onto 'marble' slabs. Unfortunately under them is a carpet and then a suspended wooden floor with a metre or so of space under them. I found it 'boomed ' unless I used the 'marble' slabs.
If you have a similar set-up and have any advice I'd really appreciate it.
I love my Lvs but wish I had known that they really needed 40 inches between them and the back-wall. I've stuffed car-wash sponge in the ports for 'normal' (i.e. wife-present) situations.
BW
Richard.)
PM replied
In essence...
Unfortunately the spikes I was using did not pierce the carpet very well even though they are pretty sharp so decided to go the plinth and isolation method. Under the carpet is a concret floor unlike your suspended wooden floor
Maybe you could try the plinth and isolation method, instead of using spikes, as it might work better than spikes onto your marble slabs then your suspended floor. My partner has a similar set up with his speakers, with a wooden suspended floor with about a metre space underneath, and he uses marble plinths with some isolation between the speakers and the plinths (no spikes) and has no problems although he is not using LV's, his speakers are Epos ES22's which are pretty bass heavy and they work beautifully like that
I have my LV's only about 35cm from the back wall and find them absolutely fine like that and I have nothing 'stuffed' in the ports
PM replied
In essence...
Unfortunately the spikes I was using did not pierce the carpet very well even though they are pretty sharp so decided to go the plinth and isolation method. Under the carpet is a concret floor unlike your suspended wooden floor
Maybe you could try the plinth and isolation method, instead of using spikes, as it might work better than spikes onto your marble slabs then your suspended floor. My partner has a similar set up with his speakers, with a wooden suspended floor with about a metre space underneath, and he uses marble plinths with some isolation between the speakers and the plinths (no spikes) and has no problems although he is not using LV's, his speakers are Epos ES22's which are pretty bass heavy and they work beautifully like that
I have my LV's only about 35cm from the back wall and find them absolutely fine like that and I have nothing 'stuffed' in the ports
Ah! thanks; interesting; food for thought - I'll experiment. How again do you 'link' the bottom of the speaker to the 'marble' plinth?
BW
R (Sheffield).
Ninanina
27-01-2017, 22:52
Ah! thanks; interesting; food for thought - I'll experiment. How again do you 'link' the bottom of the speaker to the 'marble' plinth?
BW
R (Sheffield).
Richard I think my partner is using blu-tack between his speakers and his marble plinths
I will be using bitumen/lead flashing, which I just purchased, but have not got round to trying it yet but I am sure it will be better than the spikes I used
If the bitumen/lead flashing works ok on my LV's then I will give some to my partner to try out...
Watch this space, as they say....:)
You could use Soundcare enclosed spikes, its a spike that caries its own cupped shoe around with it.
They have a felt base and work well on a stone/concrete slab.
http://www.jkwynn.co.uk/Project_Images/66/66_07.jpg
Ninanina
29-01-2017, 19:31
You could use Soundcare enclosed spikes, its a spike that caries its own cupped shoe around with it.
They have a felt base and work well on a stone/concrete slab.
http://www.jkwynn.co.uk/Project_Images/66/66_07.jpg
Thanks Ken they look perfect for my needs but will try the bitumen on the plinths first and see how I get on
I've just done the first one and the speaker is lovely and solid on it now but just waiting for my back to recover to move the next plinth, boy they are heavy
farflungstar
29-01-2017, 20:03
Glad you tried the bitumen. Are you rolling it into sprout sized balls and squashing flat?
Adey
In perpetual pursuit.
Ninanina
29-01-2017, 20:22
Glad you tried the bitumen. Are you rolling it into sprout sized balls and squashing flat?
Adey
In perpetual pursuit.
Actually I am just laying it flat onto the plinths and sticking it down and the speakers are very sturdy on them
Ninanina
31-01-2017, 17:38
The LV's certainly are sounding better than ever by using the bitumen between them and the plinths...
For the first time in memory my speakers do not 'rock' at all now
Ninanina
31-01-2017, 20:11
The sound seems to be better 'projected' into the room now
Does that make any sense at all by having the speakers properly isolated from the floor ? ;)
Ninanina
05-02-2017, 01:20
I am convinced this is the best I've heard my speakers, or any other speaker, in my system to be honest
I really think the bitumen and the heavy plinths have made a big difference to the sound of the LV's
I just love the LV's to bits...
This is what I got: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140938448860?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=440111447297&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
A nice cheap fix..
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