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Haselsh1
24-12-2016, 04:04
I have just bought a full set of PSVANE 12AU7's and 12AX7's for my preamp. Anyone got any comments...? Anyone got any opinions on these...? Are they going to make me irresistible to women...? Can anything make me so...? Here's hoping they are worth over a ton in cash.
CornishPasty
25-12-2016, 00:21
Can't comment on the small bottles but I bought a matched quad of their 211s a while ago and I really do like them, enough to persuade me to try some of their other valves in the future.
The house sound seems to be very clear and dynamic. That's based on 101D and 2A3-T triodes.
I have just bought a full set of PSVANE 12AU7's and 12AX7's for my preamp. Anyone got any comments...? Anyone got any opinions on these...? Are they going to make me irresistible to women...? Can anything make me so...? Here's hoping they are worth over a ton in cash.
Used few sets of those with my McIntosh amp and they were excellent allaround valves. Bit modern sounding perhaps with good resolution and dynamics. Clean midrange however not comparatible to better NOS variants. Still good value with no clear weaknesses imho..
I'm in a similar process, but with the octals and KT88's. Looking to try out the Shuguang Treasure CV181Z (6SN7) and PSVANE 6SL7's. The NOS situation as we all know with certain types is at extinction level, and so I hope these are good. I'll certainly report back with my findings.
Haselsh1
28-12-2016, 09:22
OK Guys, I've been listening over Christmas and have come to a conclusion or two. The bass appears comparable to the original Prima Luna branded pre's but the midrange is widely different. There is much more precision to the sound with a great deal of stopping and starting. Using Talvin Singh's 'OK' CD there are now many many layers of synth pads swirling around with very clear stops and starts and fades. The treble is like crystal with a fine precision and expression. Don't forget that my main power valves are my favourite EL34's. I shall widen my selection of music and report back more later as so far it has only been the 'OK' album and 'A flock of bleeps' by Younger Brother.
OK Guys, I've been listening over Christmas and have come to a conclusion or two. The bass appears comparable to the original Prima Luna branded pre's but the midrange is widely different. There is much more precision to the sound with a great deal of stopping and starting. Using Talvin Singh's 'OK' CD there are now many many layers of synth pads swirling around with very clear stops and starts and fades. The treble is like crystal with a fine precision and expression. Don't forget that my main power valves are my favourite EL34's. I shall widen my selection of music and report back more later as so far it has only been the 'OK' album and 'A flock of bleeps' by Younger Brother.
Shaun, good to see you reporting back - do you know what brand the stock valve's are used by Primaluna in your preamp? Have you rolled with any other ECC82 / 83 before?
brian2957
28-12-2016, 12:55
Sounds like a bit of a result then Shaun . It's always great when one can hear improvements straight away :)
Haselsh1
28-12-2016, 15:28
Sorry guys but no idea what the stock Prima Luna valves were. I have used Gold Lion gold pinned 12AX7's in the past and thought they were stunning but not in this amp combo. That was in an Icon Audio Stereo 20PP and a Croft Micro Basic pre. The Gold Lions are every bit as obvious as these but tend towards a bright and breezy mid and treble. I have to add though that I consider the whole Prima Luna pre/power to be quite bright and breezy anyway even with EL34's. If I had to decide between PSVANE and Gold Lion gold pins I'm afraid I couldn't. They are equally as good as each other to me but the PSVANE's are a bit more obvious.
Haselsh1
06-01-2017, 19:16
LOL... I have now had these since Christmas and there is already a major problem. On turning the volume down almost to zero there is now a large hum or buzz through the loudspeakers that disappears when the volume is turned back up. I have re-fitted the original Prima Luna valves and hey presto, no problem.
Think the Primaluna branded valves are made by Shuguang.
farflungstar
06-01-2017, 19:31
Have you swapped positions to be sure it's the valve...
Adey
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Haselsh1
07-01-2017, 08:32
Have you swapped positions to be sure it's the valve...
Adey
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No man, I haven't swapped valves around I have replaced them completely with the original valves and the problem has disappeared.
Get you some vintage British valves in that pre Shaun. Best money I've spent in a long while. Lush with bags of new detail.
Can't comment on the small bottles but I bought a matched quad of their 211s a while ago and I really do like them, enough to persuade me to try some of their other valves in the future.
Hi
Which of the range of 211's did you buy?
I'm considering a pair of T11's for my amp.
What are your thoughts on the PSvane 211's
Thanks
CornishPasty
11-01-2017, 14:56
Spider, I bought a matched quad of the HiFi Series 211s. I didn't realise until I dug out the receipt this morning that I bought these mid 2013. When I first put them in I remember an increase in volume and a more open sound compared to the old tubes. I've put quite a few hours on these Psvanes and I'm more than happy with them. They haven't missed a beat.
LOL... I have now had these since Christmas and there is already a major problem. On turning the volume down almost to zero there is now a large hum or buzz through the loudspeakers that disappears when the volume is turned back up. I have re-fitted the original Prima Luna valves and hey presto, no problem.
When you get a moment, if you could narrow it down by swapping out the valves one by one? Maybe one of the valves wasn't sitting right, loose in it's base?
Haselsh1
27-01-2017, 15:34
OK, I heard back from Hotrox the original supplier of the valves. The 12AX7's are fine but the 12AU7's are not. Hotrox have replaced the faulty items and returned them next day delivery. Not bad eh...?
southall-1998
27-01-2017, 16:12
Sounds like good service!
S.
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