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Marco
11-12-2016, 11:06
Noel Edmonds in his prime, during the heydays of the 70s, broadcasting on Radio One (I believe from a hotel room somewhere):

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/oAM8YN.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pooAM8YNj)

Wonder which cartridge was being used... G800, SC35C or what? :hmm:

One day, I will own one of those T/Ts [and tonearms], and 'pimp' it, as it's an itch I've been wanting to scratch for years! :exactly:

Marco.

P.S Bonus points to anyone who can identify the album being played....

Mr.Nic
11-12-2016, 11:49
Love it - great photo!

The Black Adder
11-12-2016, 12:48
...apart from beardy. lol

A proper workhorse of a TT is that. Bet it would sound smashing.... mate! - Not arf!

Marco
11-12-2016, 13:09
Lol... Playin' some Bachman Turner Overdrive, eh Smashey? Yeah, Nicey, and we don't mention the work we do for charidee... No Smashey, we don't ever talk about all the work we do for charidee. Hey, you can't beat a great night out, can you, Nicey?

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;)

Marco.

Marco
11-12-2016, 23:30
This time Stuart Henry, in the Radio 1 studios from 1969... Note the BBC-modified grey 'Hammerite' Garrard 301 to the left:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/V9lq3o.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/plV9lq3oj)

Simply awesome - when DJs actually earned their title! :cool:

Marco.

Ian7633
12-12-2016, 00:34
Why is Noel Edmunds not wearing any trousers?

sq225917
12-12-2016, 00:36
The mind boggles...

Marco
12-12-2016, 08:51
Why is Noel Edmunds not wearing any trousers?

I think the key may be the bit inside brackets in the opening post! ;)

Either that, or he's kinky.... It'd have been funnier if it had been ladies knickers :D

Marco.

Wakefield Turntables
12-12-2016, 09:46
The pickup was the Shure m44-7

Marco
12-12-2016, 09:52
Lol... How do you know that?

Marco.

Joe
12-12-2016, 10:32
Lol... How do you know that?

Marco.

He was sharing Noel's hotel room.

Wakefield Turntables
12-12-2016, 10:45
I've seen the marketing brochure.

Wakefield Turntables
12-12-2016, 10:48
The gates has supposedly the lowest rumble of all idlers, it dosen't the 301/401 are better. The big red switch is Mercury filled :stalks:. This type of deck was very popular in the USA. I may look out for a restoration project at some point.

RothwellAudio
12-12-2016, 11:16
BTW, both DJs are using AKG D202 microphones. I've got one of those :D

User211
12-12-2016, 12:06
Those arms look like 100% total shite for ham fisted drunk DJs...

Marco
12-12-2016, 12:20
Yes, that's what I thought until I heard one on said T/T! ;)

I also dig the whole 'high-mass' approach to vinyl replay, so the 'crane-like chunkiness' of the Gray suits me perfectly, especially partnered by a nice low-compliance cart, tracking at 4g or so... :eyebrows:

Bass heft? You betcha!! :eek::D

Marco.

The Black Adder
12-12-2016, 13:31
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/canadian-born-dj-david-kid-jensen-pictured-in-a-radio-broadcast-at-picture-id534528883

The Black Adder
12-12-2016, 13:39
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Blackburn2-475084.jpg

Marco
12-12-2016, 13:41
Good stuff, Jo... Now we know why the Top 40 chart shows, broadcast on a Sunday night during the 70s and 80s, used to sound so good! :cool:

Marco.

mikeyb
12-12-2016, 13:52
You'll be joining this lot next

https://youtu.be/su-DMP_z_rs

😛 😁

paulf-2007
12-12-2016, 21:03
Why is Noel Edmunds not wearing any trousers?you are scaring me now. I didn't even notice that.

mikeyb
12-12-2016, 21:24
you are scaring me now. I didn't even notice that.
I thought that's what Marco was drooling over :eyebrows: :lol:

I thought it was early Daftee uniform ?

Marco
13-12-2016, 09:04
Ha - I didn't notice it either... Silly, I know, but my focus was on the turntable! :D

FYI, the MKI Daftee Uniform had a fur-lined side access pouch.

Marco.

Barry
15-12-2016, 20:20
Yours for £800 Marco:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gates-CB77-Broadcast-Turntable-and-Arm-/252521413137?hash=item3acb72fa11:g:flkAAOSw8oFXyEe P

(Personally I'd much prefer a Garrard 301, with a Garrard arm.)

The Black Adder
15-12-2016, 20:31
Love the little gear lever... looks like my dads Triumph Dolomite. lol

Wakefield Turntables
15-12-2016, 20:32
I did see this but it's only got the mono-preamp. I was thinking about buying one and then realised I have no room!

Marco
15-12-2016, 23:14
Yours for £800 Marco:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gates-CB77-Broadcast-Turntable-and-Arm-/252521413137?hash=item3acb72fa11:g:flkAAOSw8oFXyEe P

(Personally I'd much prefer a Garrard 301, with a Garrard arm.)

Interesting, Barry, and thanks for that, but that one's a little bit ropey looking and I'd also want a Gray arm on it :)

A shit video, especially how dreadfully the guy treats records :eek: but this is the type of thing (and minty condition) I'd be looking for [watch directly on YouTube, so you can see it enlarged]:

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Marco.

Barry
15-12-2016, 23:16
It's a different model to the one used by the BBC.

Marco
16-12-2016, 00:06
Not bothered about that, as I'm pretty sure the sound would be virtually identical, providing one was using a Gray arm. Andy (Rexton) mentioned that the Beeb were using Shure M44-7 cartridges with the Gates/Gray combos...

However, I've since discovered that it's a specific one, which is the 1960s white-bodied version, like this:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/NfrQTe.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnNfrQTej)

Those are reputed to sound different and so much better than the modern variety, and indeed anything in between. Therefore, I'm on the look out for a minty NOS example of such with an (unused) original stylus :cool:

Marco.

Marco
16-12-2016, 01:16
Another good one, this time with a Shure broadcast arm:

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Marco.

The Black Adder
16-12-2016, 04:24
One thing I've noticed with those decks is the size od the platter.... it's fookin' huge!

Marco
16-12-2016, 07:54
It's a nice fat 16-incher, mate! You can't beat a bit of GIRTH... :eyebrows:

This video nicely illustrates the humungous nature of the platter and bearing (one of the reasons why the T/T sounds as 'hefty' and powerful as it looks):

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Nice old RCA broadcast console there, too! :)

Marco.

The Black Adder
16-12-2016, 08:13
lol... the 45 looks soooo weeee.

Crazy, wonder why nobody makes platters that big anymore. Great idea.

Barry
16-12-2016, 11:15
lol... the 45 looks soooo weeee.

Crazy, wonder why nobody makes platters that big anymore. Great idea.

Because nobody presses 16" LPs anymore.