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02-12-2016, 20:45
The Album Club choice for December comes courtesy of Loz (HackneyRF) with Mogwai's 'Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will'. As always, please listen to the album in its entirety before you comment or vote.



Album Club, December 2016: Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will.

http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r502/lozring/image_53.jpeg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_Will_Never_Die,_But_You_Will

I'd been aware of Mogwai since the mid 90's but never listened to them until I saw them perform this album headlining at End of the Road Festival in 2011. I was hooked. A monumental live act. Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will was probably their most immediate record to date. The vocals remain few and far between, relying on the music to do the talking. Songs are shorter and snappier. But still retain the dynamic shifts from quiet to loud, the melodic bass and distorted guitars. Overall a terrific record but my highlights if pushed are 'White Noise', 'Rano Pano', 'Too Raging To Cheers' and 'You're Lionel Richie'

Hope you enjoy it.

https://open.spotify.com/album/7w4z35rOtFKt9gHRTU6Qil

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z20n9PuEdLo

z20n9PuEdLo

lovejoy
05-12-2016, 11:20
Nice one - Another one I will look forward to listening to - I was also at that gig at End of the Road in 2011. I was a bit disappointed with the sound of everything at EOTR but they are an amazing band to catch live. I also saw them at Glastonbury last year and that was stunning.

I'm only familiar with the earlier albums - Young Team, Come on die young and Rock action which I love. I lost my way with them a bit after Happy songs for happy people, although I picked up again with Rave tapes which is ace and I bought Atomic (though haven't listened to that much yet either).

It'll be good to go back and fill in some gaps on your recommendation.

Spectral Morn
06-12-2016, 19:10
Not for me - sorry.

The Black Adder
06-12-2016, 19:22
Great album... Always loved Mogwai.

User211
06-12-2016, 23:18
Kings of distorted guitar riffs with melody. I'm much like Lovejoy above and familiar with the early stuff.

I lost interest as it all got a bit samey.

This is sounding good after the first play, however. It will get more plays:)

I spent an evening in a recording studio with a guitar player from a Mogwai inspired band, trying to get something to work. He couldn't drum so he had to be left to guitar duties. There was no choice:D

high.spirits
11-12-2016, 11:29
I tried to get into this but failed - sorry. Its always good to listen to different bands, some work for you other don't.

Audio Al
16-12-2016, 02:57
:( Sorry I did try really hard to like this but alas not , One or two of the slower tracks were OK / relaxing but overall no for me
I will give this a 6 because of the tracks i liked
Thanks for posting though as its allways interesting to see what others like :)

Audio Al
16-12-2016, 03:05
213 views and only 6 replies :steam:, come on people support the Album Club please :)

Only 4 votes :doh:

RichB
22-12-2016, 16:33
Finally a day off to spend a bit time catching up on album club. Yes I enjoyed this. A solid 7 for me, could have been higher but the production values let it down. Sounded hard as a bag of nails on my gear and my current set up is anything but hard sounding normally.

Still I enjoyed the music. Have one of their other albums 'Mr Beast' in my collection. I'ok revisit that one to see how it compares.

Pixelpopper
25-12-2016, 20:16
The best I have heard so far, I actually listened all through 😊
A few pleasant tunes but alas none that I really I would listen to in the long term.

a good selection, but I'm still looking 🤔

Thanks for your selection.

Score 5+

HackneyRF
29-12-2016, 12:07
Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment folks. Not for everyone this one, but that seems the trend with The Album Club, no one record is universally liked. I agree with Rich's comment regarding the production. Always thought it sounded a bit 'harsh' in places.

As Al mentioned, a bit of a poor turn out on this one. I guess December is a busy time for many! But it's not January yet so get yer Hi Fi on and cranked up and get the votes into double figures!

Regards to all

Loz

Barry
29-12-2016, 20:40
I liked it - nice dense, fuzzy distorted sound, with undecipherable lyrics, but with a nice, sluggish heavy beat. Just the sort of hypnotic music I can relax to.

8/10 from me

paulf-2007
30-12-2016, 13:33
Nah, couldn't get into it, nothing to get my attention.

johnB
30-12-2016, 15:33
Good choice - I really like their LP Atomic (from earlier this year I think), but had not listened to much else from them. After listening to this one I will go and explore more.

Thanks
John

lovejoy
30-12-2016, 15:36
Squeezed in right at the end of the month. What the hell happened to December?
Great tunes. Mogwai are masters of what they do. Melodic, post-apocalyptic rock.
If only it had been recorded live in the studio with the band all playing together in one room onto tape with a recording engineer worth his beans - someone like Steve Albini perhaps. Give it the rawness and dynamic to make it exciting and involving.
As it is, it has all the hallmarks of 'flattened by Pro-Tools' about it. I had to keep bringing my attention back to it as it just sounds BOORING and lifeless. A real shame as given a good recording and mastering it could have been one of their finest albums. I've heard a couple of these songs live so I know how they can sound, so it's the recording that lets the side down.
For that I can only give it a 7.

Rothchild
29-01-2017, 21:05
As a former shoegazer I quite enjoyed this, but a few more vocals wouldn't go amiss ;-)

I think a big part of the hardness and flatness that folk are hearing is overmastering. I've not thrown a meter on it myself yet but http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/119569 suggests pretty limited dynamic range, there's a tendency for the drums to suck up and spit the brassware over the top when it all gets going.

I like the mixing, there's a lot of nice eq work, instruments are well defined spectrally but I'm not sure I get what the 'presentation' is meant to be, there's a lot of space but it's not clear 'where' we're meant to be (room, cathedral, stage, spaceship...)

I can imagine it being quite a good thing to have on cans in the office.

7/10