PDA

View Full Version : I'm not sure if this is the right forum but I can't be arsed to go elsewhere



The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 00:08
My bloody great big ugly multi channel suround sound amp has got to go!
I don't have the space, it's ugly, ss is an after thought!
So here is the plan
use my main speakers, but just swop the cables when I want to use the suround sound.
I have a blu-ray player that has 6 channel analoge output so -
take the sub out direct to the powered sub
take the rest of the outputs to maybe 3 tripaths, one for the front 2 speakers one for the rear 2 speakers and one for the centre speaker this should give enough variation in output per speaker for me to get the levels right... But, will this work? I'm happy that the front 2 speakers would be at the same level and the rear 2 at the same level!
I can flog my yam ss amp for enough money to buy 3 cheap tripaths and I recon It would provide enough sound for my liking!
The other option, and maybe a better one would be a amp that has 5 independant inputs and 5 speaker outputs, all with independant volume controls ... Would I have to seek out some kind of pro amp for that?
Can anyone think of another solution that wouldn't take up as much space as a full size ss amp?
Or anyother ideas?

Rare Bird
11-12-2009, 00:18
My bloody great big ugly multi channel suround sound amp has got to go!

Can anyone think of another solution that wouldn't take up as much space as a full size ss amp?
Or anyother ideas?

Aye pair of these of these, won't take much room up:

http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/1112.asp?action=imagePopup&imageId=pd_t_img1


:lolsign:

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 00:24
Cheers Andre



.. Useless p++ck!!

;)

Rare Bird
11-12-2009, 00:36
:lolsign:

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 08:38
It's just occured to me that I don't think my blu-ray doesn't actually have a volume control so this is a bad idea.... Basically ignor this thread unless anyone can think of a way round my problem!
Someone should invnt a slim ss amp that doesn't have and dsp built into it just volume controls ... I don't need all that bull crap my bd player does it all anyway!!

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 08:39
It's just occured to me that I don't think my blu-ray doesn't actually have a volume control so this is a bad idea.... Basically ignor this thread unless anyone can think of a way round my problem!
Someone should invnt a slim ss amp that doesn't have and dsp built into it just volume controls ... I don't need all that bull crap my bd player does it all anyway!!

Themis
11-12-2009, 08:44
I've had a A/V for very (very) long, I'll find a solution for you, don't worry.
Just that I'm at work and I need a bit of time.
Later... ;)

Ali Tait
11-12-2009, 16:33
Can't remember what speakers you use Hamish,but using a valve amp through my statics I feel no need whatsoever for a surround system,as I get such a large soundstage anyway.:)

Peter Galbavy
11-12-2009, 16:37
Depends whether you want to rely on the DACs in your BluRay player for analogue out to normal systems or a dedicated HD audio capable processor. I am lucky in that I have two rooms, one for 5.1 AV duties and another for music. Not everyone has that luxury (i.e. being a bachelor :) )

The other thing, and I know some will class this as heresy here, is that AV amps like Denon etc. have good room EQ which I personally is important for surround systems. Integrating the sub with 5 satellites, which are usually not the same models, is not easy. Then there is the whole reference vs preference debate to be had...

Themis
11-12-2009, 16:51
Best choice for you is a Cyrus AV Master Processor/amplifier : it's small and with excellent sound.
You will also need a LINE multi-switch (at about £10) and no need for switching speaker cables : you can use your power amp for front speakers.

(I had told you to ask for a bypass... ;))

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 19:51
cheers for all the help!
i am actually very confident with ss, we specialise in it at the shop... and im the specialist! (i just had a bit of a "special" moment when i was thinkin g about this last night!)
i just dont think what i want actually exists
heres my specs

slimline - about the height of an average cd player
i dont want to use my valves for the front speakers (wastefull!!)
im happy swoping speaker cables
im happy using the blu-rays dac

i basically want an amp with 5 independantly variable speaker outputs, a passive out for the sub and a master volume.. im not fussed about dsp il make the best of what i have got

does this exist?

if not i might just buy this http://www.sony.co.uk/product/hcs-cinema-surround-kit/ht-is100 im after adiquate, not shit hot!

Themis
11-12-2009, 19:59
Something like a HT-BD1250, could do, you mean ?

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 20:32
samsung... SAMSUNG....!!!
you and me could fall out quite easily here ;)

i already got a sony bdps550 so i just need the amplification and speakers if i go down this route

Themis
11-12-2009, 20:45
samsung... SAMSUNG....!!!
you and me could fall out quite easily here ;) :D

No, I mentioned this model as an example, to see how big this could be...
A Cambridge 340R is too high, I guess ? (10 centimeters)

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 20:49
first reaction.. looks promsing
lack of audio via hdmi is a problem though..

any more options you can think of?

Themis
11-12-2009, 20:58
Well, one of the best is a YBA YA701. But I don't know how much you want to spend...

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 20:59
not that much :)

Themis
11-12-2009, 21:08
An interesting compromise is a HK AVR-160 (discrete output, almost no negative feedback)
But it's rather high... 16cm... I keep on looking, I'll find something tonight. :)

Themis
11-12-2009, 21:10
How about a Sony HT-SF100 ? (6.5cm high)

Themis
11-12-2009, 21:49
Another interesting one is a Marantz NR1501SG or NR1501B (Silver Gold or Black). ;) (10.5cm high)

The Vinyl Adventure
11-12-2009, 22:02
Marantz one looks very interesting! The size is the big issue and the apears to address that issue quite well!
Cheers for these pointers dimitri!

Themis
11-12-2009, 22:09
I listened to it's bigger brother, it's very-very decent sounding AV amp.
The NR1501 has all the necessary things : 4 HDMI inputs, video conversion to HDMI output, MRAC auto-calibration, deep color passthrough, lipsync, OSD...
It's a neat piece of kit, not too expensive moreover. ;)