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Firebottle
07-11-2016, 08:23
... or rather they were on their stands at MiBO.

Didn't get as far as I hoped yesterday, 4mm outlet sockets were installed but found the hooks screw length was insufficient.

Progress so far:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050829.jpg

Updates to follow ...........

Gordon Steadman
07-11-2016, 08:42
Ye gods, you rely on screws?:eek:

I assumed they would have bolts through a ceiling joist. Brave man.

Firebottle
07-11-2016, 09:06
They will be into the ceiling joists Gordon, I fitted long screws when the build was done to give the position.
Don't worry I will be hanging off them before the stats go up :mental:

ff1d1l
07-11-2016, 09:48
Did this when I was student...people used to refer to them as the bats...

Firebottle
07-11-2016, 16:42
Well they are now up and out of the way:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050837.jpg

It will be tomorrow before I can tell what they sound like :scratch:

Shadow Moses
07-11-2016, 17:19
Looking good Alan, bet their gonna sound fantastic up there

Firebottle
07-11-2016, 17:39
Got the 3 tenors on at the moment from my low power OTL valve amp. They sure do sound good.

walpurgis
07-11-2016, 17:43
Yours still on the original mains rectifiers Alan? I had to rebuild mine. Mucky job being potted in bitumen (or was it tar?).

Gordon Steadman
07-11-2016, 18:07
So they survived the ravages of 'professional watts' then:lol:

As I'm enjoying the Pioneer so much, I sort of suggested to Ronnie that we try with the 57's and her reply was, I believe, in the negative. It was quite hard to hear whilst being boxed around my fading lugholes. As we have four other amps that are quite happy with the Quads, I suppose I can see her point!

Firebottle
07-11-2016, 18:15
Yours still on the original mains rectifiers Alan? I had to rebuild mine. Mucky job being potted in bitumen (or was it tar?).

I rebuilt the original ones, quite a few failed rectifier diodes, but have since replaced them recently for aftermarket jobbies.

@ Gordon, yes they have survived the 'proffesional watts', they do have the protection boards fitted.

Listening to the Who now, superb.

Bigman80
07-11-2016, 18:26
Looking spectacular. You're spoilt on the speaker front. I'm very jealous.

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Sherwood
07-11-2016, 20:11
Well they are now up and out of the way:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050837.jpg

It will be tomorrow before I can tell what they sound like :scratch:

Is there a third wire to stabilise front/rear movement?

Firebottle
07-11-2016, 21:07
Hi Geoff, they don't actually move around on their own.
They do need to be angled down a little so I will be fitting a thin wire to the base to do just that.

They are sounding fantastic :D

Jimbo
07-11-2016, 21:46
Hi Geoff, they don't actually move around on their own.
They do need to be angled down a little so I will be fitting a thin wire to the base to do just that.

They are sounding fantastic :D

Non hifi folk popping round to your abode must be very puzzled by their appearance, probably think your trying to contact the Martians!:lol:

Sherwood
07-11-2016, 22:28
Hi Geoff, they don't actually move around on their own.
They do need to be angled down a little so I will be fitting a thin wire to the base to do just that.

They are sounding fantastic :D

I was thinking about a similar arrangement for my Magneplanars. I would have thought that there would be some speaker movement (equal and opposite and all that). A third wire would both angle the speaker for optimal listening and provide a gravity resistance against micro movement. I would be interested to find out how the sound changes when you fit the anchor wire.

struth
07-11-2016, 23:06
Suppose there has to be some movement, but might not be that much with gravity having an effect, and lack of really big base waves etc..... maybe? :lol: anyone suspended traditional cone speakers before??

User211
08-11-2016, 12:31
Put the Maggies underneath for a wall of sound!;)

Firebottle
08-11-2016, 13:11
I'll post up a picture ..........

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050838.jpg

Spot the maggies in the background. There is lots of experimentation to come :mental:

struth
08-11-2016, 13:18
They seem a bit disjointed height wise .. or am i seeing wrong

Firebottle
08-11-2016, 15:56
They are Grant, the right hand one has had to go on a soon to be removed TV plinth.

Dinnae worry, your eyesight is fine :eyebrows:

Sherwood
08-11-2016, 17:35
I'll post up a picture ..........

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050838.jpg

Spot the maggies in the background. There is lots of experimentation to come :mental:

Just a thought! How about velcro shoes and ceiling pads?

Geoff

Firebottle
10-11-2016, 08:06
Here is a picture showing the other positioning wires at the back Geoff:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050843.jpg

:)

Audio Al
10-11-2016, 11:37
Any reason for hanging them upside down ? Alan

is it just ease of fixing points

Firebottle
10-11-2016, 11:58
Yes Al, nowhere to put the eyebolts on the top.

Sherwood
10-11-2016, 16:00
Here is a picture showing the other positioning wires at the back Geoff:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt97/Paramotorpilot/P1050843.jpg

:)

Alan,

that's how I would have done it. My guess, purely that, is that it would improve detail and image solidity!

Geoff

Firebottle
10-11-2016, 17:44
Changing the angles of the panels within the room does have an effect on the imaging. I made a minor change to the right panel just to get it 100% this afternoon and they are sounding phenomenal.
Being in a smaller room compared to the last one is causing a little bass bloom but I think a bass trap in each corner will hopefully cure it.

You would be very welcome to come over and have a listen :thumbsup:

Sherwood
11-11-2016, 12:07
Changing the angles of the panels within the room does have an effect on the imaging. I made a minor change to the right panel just to get it 100% this afternoon and they are sounding phenomenal.
Being in a smaller room compared to the last one is causing a little bass bloom but I think a bass trap in each corner will hopefully cure it.

You would be very welcome to come over and have a listen :thumbsup:

Alan,

what do you have planned for the bass traps? DIY or commercial?

Geoff

Firebottle
11-11-2016, 12:23
Don't know yet Geoff, will experiment with a rolled up duvet held up in the corner by my wonderful assistant first to prove the idea :scratch:

walpurgis
11-11-2016, 12:33
It's amazing what a bit of damping material can do. I experimented when I was decorating the bathroom. Clapping hands caused a resonant echo. Hanging just one large towel on a rail made it disappear.

User211
11-11-2016, 13:00
https://culturexchange1.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/hang-em-high.png?w=2368&h=376

Firebottle
11-11-2016, 14:10
Ta Justin :D:lol:

petrat
11-11-2016, 14:56
It's amazing what a bit of damping material can do. I experimented when I was decorating the bathroom. Clapping hands caused a resonant echo. Hanging just one large towel on a rail made it disappear.

I agree. I always wear my towelling bathrobe when listening ... especially when auditioning at dealers :lol:

struth
11-11-2016, 15:12
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161111/81b83db8b6caaacbf9fc7e0cbfe20719.jpg

Suits you

Sherwood
11-11-2016, 15:39
Don't know yet Geoff, will experiment with a rolled up duvet held up in the corner by my wonderful assistant first to prove the idea :scratch:

Ikea sell a heavy duty black polypropelene door matt a little larger than the profile of the Quad. It has very thick stringy fibres on one side and a glossy finish on the other. You can make a tiny hole in the edge an fit a plastic strip tie as a loop. Will post a photo shortly. Works well and looks OK.

Geoff