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09mike69
26-10-2016, 20:34
whats the best phono stage you've heard on an integrated amp? mine would be the creek 4040.

walpurgis
26-10-2016, 21:25
The one on my JVC AX-A441. By far! The MC option is outstanding. Really surprised me.

RobbieGong
26-10-2016, 21:29
The one on my Sansui AU 919

09mike69
26-10-2016, 22:20
The one on my JVC AX-A441. By far! The MC option is outstanding. Really surprised me.

what year is your jvc?

walpurgis
26-10-2016, 22:24
Not sure. Somewhere around 1990 I believe.

09mike69
26-10-2016, 22:34
Not sure. Somewhere around 1990 I believe.

i have a 70's jvc receiver that i personally think has a very good phono stage....also the rotel ra 610 is no slouch either, i compared it to the,,, he,hem, rhymes with dad dirtyplenty.. an i couldnt any difference.

walpurgis
26-10-2016, 22:44
the rotel ra 610 is no slouch either

Nor is the RA-611.

walpurgis
26-10-2016, 23:01
If you want to try a seventies Japanese budget amp that will give you a really big surprise, look for a Trio KA-1000A. The speaker terminals are crude screw types and the amp looks very basic, but the sound quality is a bit special. Think Sugden A21 and you'll be about right. The phono stage is good too. I've had about five of these and they really are good (as long as you have reasonably sensitive speakers, only 12 watts per channel).

Floyddroid
27-10-2016, 05:34
The very first Exposure integrated amplifier had a cracking phono stage as did the A&R A60 albeit mm only.

killie99
27-10-2016, 07:31
Luxman L550 aii, both MM and MC stages are superb. You'll be spending something like £1k to better them.

hifi_dave
27-10-2016, 09:23
Croft but MM only.

Beobloke
27-10-2016, 11:39
Luxman L550 aii, both MM and MC stages are superb. You'll be spending something like £1k to better them.

Seconded!

topoxforddoc
27-10-2016, 14:04
The old Lentek Integrated amplifier had a cracking phono stage.

rdpx
27-10-2016, 15:47
Croft but MM only.

I must say that I have to agree with Dave on this, mainly for the reason that this is the amp that I have and so therefore it must be the best one, or else I would not have bought it. QED.


I should add that I bought the amp from Hi-fi Dave, and that if any of you are considering entering the state of audiophile rapture that is the Croft Integrated Phono, you should give him a call as he will sort you out and his after sales service is top end, and he makes you cups of tea.

Michael loves music
27-10-2016, 17:39
I love my Denon 350 SE amp

paulf-2007
27-10-2016, 18:37
I have been pleasantly surprised by the phono stage in my Sony STR 6055 receiver. I have to admit to having dismissed solid state for some years now. Even my old faithful Akai integrated, my very first amp has a decent stage. The difference between these amps and stages compared with the very nice valve amps and stages is minimal and I'm tired of listening for minute improvements.

flatpopely
06-11-2016, 09:52
The Phono stage in my JVC AX Z1010TN showed my HiCAP powered NAIM Prefix a clean pair of heals.

rmcin626
06-11-2016, 09:59
Interestingly that apart from the Croft, which is MM, there have been no current amps nominated.

struth
06-11-2016, 10:13
Best one ive had was my A1000 mm,mc stage. Expensive, no expense spared amp so youd expect it to be decent though. Ive had a pre with a nice stage in the nakamichi , but probably doesnt count

Scooby
06-11-2016, 13:13
Myst Tma3. Interchangeable boards for MM and MC, both were stellar and the MC was something special design-wise in that it auto adjusted to suit your cartridge. Don't ask me how but that's what was reported at the time.

hifi_dave
06-11-2016, 15:44
Interestingly that apart from the Croft, which is MM, there have been no current amps nominated.

You have to go some and spend a lot more to find a better phono stage than a Croft.

I've had more than 30 years comparing Croft with all comers and never cease to be amazed at how good they are.

rmcin626
06-11-2016, 15:58
You have to go some and spend a lot more to find a better phono stage than a Croft.

I've had more than 30 years comparing Croft with all comers and never cease to be amazed at how good they are.

I would love to try the Croft, but it's MM only, just thought it was interesting that several other nominations were big jap amps and having been looking myself for a new amp with a built in MC phono stage there are not many at my price range

struth
06-11-2016, 16:08
I would love to try the Croft, but it's MM only, just thought it was interesting that several other nominations were big jap amps and having been looking myself for a new amp with a built in MC phono stage there are not many at my price range

Can always add a sut or head amp to it. Take up no room and will run straight through the mm. Pick the amp you fancy and leave a 2 or 3 hundred for a nice add on

rmcin626
06-11-2016, 16:21
Can always add a sut or head amp to it. Take up no room and will run straight through the mm. Pick the amp you fancy and leave a 2 or 3 hundred for a nice add on

That might be a plan Grant, but would need to buy the Croft on line as they have no dealers up here in the northern wonderland.

struth
06-11-2016, 16:25
Dave sells them. Sure he could give you a deal. Nice chap.

rmcin626
06-11-2016, 16:30
Dave sells them. Sure he could give you a deal. Nice chap.

Think you might be right Grant, time for a chat with Dave

Cyreg
10-11-2016, 08:32
Interestingly that apart from the Croft, which is MM, there have been no current amps nominated.

My integrated LFD LE III/phono also plays very nice (MM but can be changed to MC)

Yomanze
10-11-2016, 17:08
My integrated LFD LE III/phono also plays very nice (MM but can be changed to MC)
Kick Ass, natural phono stage.

bossjw
14-11-2016, 14:08
Original Nad 3020 still sounding very pleasant...current rega elex and elicit r must be worth a mention