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There goes the neighbourhood!
Well, I noticed that y'all were have a bit of a chin-wag about one of our products, so I decided to give you the chance to ask any questions that you may have. If you don't have any questions, that is fine. I won't spam you with announcements about our products.
Just don't call me "Yank". An insult to all "Texuns"!
Cheers, y'all........
Pat
The Vinyl Adventure
02-12-2009, 08:26
What's the product, scuse my ignorance! Chuck in a Link, no one will mind!
Hi Pat, welcome to the AoS forums. ;)
Nice to see you're doing fine. Do you have any recent projects about new products ?
Who, what, why, when - and do I need one???? :D
What's the product, scuse my ignorance! Chuck in a Link, no one will mind!
Indeed! I'm trying to find out which company Pat represents - and everyone seems to know but me... What is 'art'? :confused:
Marco.
Dave Cawley
02-12-2009, 09:47
Marco, Macro, Marco............
Just go to members home page!! :doh:
http://analogresearch-technology.net/
Dave
Cheers! But which 'members page' are you referring to? :confused:
{Edit: I see what you mean now, but I rarely look at stuff like that, or people's profiles (don't have time) - far better for members to make that info obvious in their signature, or introduce it in an opening post}.
Until now, I'd never heard of 'Analogue Research Technology'. Anyway, welcome, Pat! :)
Marco.
Welcome aboard Pat, good to have you join us. I'm sure you will be able to contribute greatly with your knowledge, as I see you already have in another thread. Have fun!
Dave Cawley
02-12-2009, 10:07
Did you click on the link? :doh:
You really have to read my stuff Marco my old mate!!
Dave
I do read it! See the edit on my previous post :)
And yes I've clicked on the link, thanks. I'd written my previous reply before you supplied it!
Timing is everything on forums... ;)
Marco.
Spectral Morn
02-12-2009, 11:37
Welcome to AOS
Have fun Pat
Regards D S D L
I have to say that I know Pat for at least a year (or two, perhaps).
I have his special (long) coax (BNC terminated) which is an outstanding coaxial cable, it is a reference cable for me : it serves to evaluate any other digital coax out there. ;)
So, I won't get into details, but, what I most appreciate about Pat, its his forwardness (hope the word is right). :)
Not all of that is correct. Sorry, bub.
Pat
Not all of that is correct. Sorry, bub.
Pat
Yep, I should have said nothing, I knew it. :(
Oh well, nevermind... I will remove it later, perhaps.
Yes, perhaps that is best. You may have forgotten that one of our original principles moved on about 3 years ago. Things have changed quite a bit since then. Or, perhaps you were not aware of that. Things like that have caused a great deal of confusion.
I will add this:
We were never called "Analogue". Much to his chagrin. Now, I can promise you that we will never be referred to in that manner. We still use "his" version of The King's English around here............mainly to remind us of what a lurch he left us in.
"Curry an' chips for me an' aal. Broons aal roon!"
Pat
I didn't speak about "analogue", but I edited nevertheless.
(After all, I'm not your press manager :eyebrows:)
I'm sure people here would like to know about your original principles and the things that have changed. And me too, in a certain way. ;)
How very cryptic - if not intriguing!? :scratch:
Steve Toy
02-12-2009, 17:48
Welcome to AOS. It's always nice to see guys join from the other side of the pond.
Just don't call me "Yank". An insult to all "Texuns"!
We share a common language but there are a few notable differences one of which is the meaning of "Yank."
In American English a Yank is someone who was born/raised North of the Mason-Dixon line.
In British English a Yank is any US citizen from the Mexican border right up to the 49th Parallel and Alaska.
Thus you are a Yank to us ;)
Hi Pat,
Welcome to AoS. :)
I have his special (long) coax (BNC terminated) which is an outstanding coaxial cable, it is a reference cable for me : it serves to evaluate any other digital coax out there. ;)
You should have said... I could have sent you a BNC-BNC (or whatever) along with that RCA-RCA cable. For comparison purposes! ;)
Yes, I realise that. We did have a founding principle member who was from your side of the bog. But he is gone!
Still, it is an insult!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um, not sure what needs to be explained, or why. But a brief history.
We are group of like-minded goofballs, who are consultants of sorts. From time to time, we get the hare-brained idea to build and market something that we have designed. More times than not, it is an outgrowth of something that we have worked on, for a long time, and were shut off by the party that we were doing the work for. Having dumped lots of time and money into something, and gotten 'owt in return, we then decide the only way to recoup anything is to build it ourselves.
While we all have some background in manufacturing, it is certainly not our forte. It always leads to some hilarious outcome. Occasionally, we make money. At least enough so that when the next time rolls around, we go "Uh, maybe we shouldn't do this.............remember what happened last time................sod it! Let's build it."
We are in the middle of one of those adventures right now. It is giving me headaches. But at least we found a way to get rid of anodisers.
As for our background, most of us came from the telecom world. Some from medical electronics. One guy worked for a place that used to make steel. (I think that they still do, but the word "Steel" is no longer part of their name. And most of their mills have been razed to the ground.) Others are folks that thought that it would be fun to work somewhere that you get to listen to music for a living.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!
Most of us can't stand to listen to music any longer. When it gets to be a job, it gets to be a drag. Especially when you have to go to various stereo shoppes, and hear the same swill, over and over again. Doesn't matter where you go: same music, in every shoppe in every town.
After you get to the point when you don't want to listen to music, you find that you are in a bind when it comes to evaluating a new design. Everyone sits, and looks at each other and goes: "Do we really have to listen to this? Don't you have an idea what it should sound like? Haven't you done enough of these already to know? Can't we wait until you are done?" Followed by: "I can't remember the last time that I listened to my system." "Same here. I had mine turned off all summer. The last thing that I need is a 100 W Class A amp running in the summer. Especially when I am not using it."
The next evolutionary step is that you find that folks who used to be your best mates are now someone that you don't want to see as soon as work it over. It further devolves into folks deciding that they can work along, at their house. And that you don't want to see them when they do show up.
Moral of the story: Don't quit your day job and go into audio. Even if you are laid off! Don't do it. You will regret it. I promise you.
Anyway, that is why I like to concentrate on stuff that uses SPDIF. I can design it just by measuring it. When it comes to listening time, I get someone else to do it.
Yes, you are reading that right: I don't listen to my designs any longer. Even when I did, knowing what I did could easily skew my opinion. That is why we needed to have several folks around who were not part of that phase of the design process.
So, asking me what s/w sounds best, and how much CPU speed or memory that one needs on a computer................I have absolutely no idea. I don't have way to even listen to our stuff. We build it, I measure it, someone else here gets to listen to it. As long as it is not me, I am happy.
Well, not really "happy" happy. Just happy that is one less thing to strain my already shot nerves.
Cheers!
Pat
You should have said... I could have sent you a BNC-BNC (or whatever) along with that RCA-RCA cable. For comparison purposes! ;)
Ah... I didn't think of it.... :(
Never mind, I'll try to think of it along with some analog interconnects, next time (if you don't mind there's a next time, of course ;))
Dave Cawley
02-12-2009, 18:36
I can design it just by measuring it.
Measurements, I love measurements.....
Dave
DanJennings
02-12-2009, 18:45
Others are folks that thought that it would be fun to work somewhere that you get to listen to music for a living.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!
Most of us can't stand to listen to music any longer. When it gets to be a job, it gets to be a drag. Especially when you have to go to various stereo shoppes, and hear the same swill, over and over again. Doesn't matter where you go: same music, in every shoppe in every town.
After you get to the point when you don't want to listen to music, you find that you are in a bind when it comes to evaluating a new design. Everyone sits, and looks at each other and goes: "Do we really have to listen to this? Don't you have an idea what it should sound like? Haven't you done enough of these already to know? Can't we wait until you are done?" Followed by: "I can't remember the last time that I listened to my system." "Same here. I had mine turned off all summer.
.........
When it comes to listening time, I get someone else to do it.
Yes, you are reading that right: I don't listen to my designs any longer. Even when I did, knowing what I did could easily skew my opinion. That is why we needed to have several folks around who were not part of that phase of the design process.
So, asking me what s/w sounds best, and how much CPU speed or memory that one needs on a computer................I have absolutely no idea. I don't have way to even listen to our stuff. We build it, I measure it, someone else here gets to listen to it. As long as it is not me, I am happy.
Pat
That is one of the saddest things I've read on here.
Try doing it for 25 years.............you'll see.
I know a lot of nurses. Most of them can't stand nursing any longer. 25 years was too much. You would be surprised how many have left. One that I know went to work in telecom!!!!!!!!!! I can't get hired there (neither can her husband), but she can. Go figure.
It happens in all fields. It is only sad when it was an avocation, and turns into a mundane vocation.
It was the same when I worked in telecom. I used to enjoy ham radio. Not after doing telecom all day. Wasn't fun any longer. Now, I can build a shortwave radio, and futz with it in my spare time. Almost like being a kid in high school all over. But without the zits and hormonal urges.
Pat
I can design it just by measuring it.
Measurements, I love measurements.....
Dave
Such as, let me guess.....38-22-36.....?:ner:
I can design it just by measuring it.
Measurements, I love measurements.....
Dave
Ditto!.... That's how my digi cables came about. But! (as ever) the proof of the pudding is in the listening! :)
Incidentally, Dave. You asked me once what gear I use to measure my cables and I don't think I ever replied!
I use a Marconi SMA4 ADMUX and a TTC 'Interceptor' 1402S. But you'll have to work out how for yourself! ;)
Well, I sold HiFi for over thirty years and apart from neurotic business owners I loved every minute of it. Because I could tinker at work, I used the easy option of active monitors at home, with very little need to tweak. Now my life has changed ("...in oh so many ways..."), I've sold the active monitors and have a tweaky valve-n-vinyl system with turntables awaiting final completion :)
The Vinyl Adventure
02-12-2009, 21:52
That is one of the saddest things I've read on here.
im with you buddy... the hfi technology and the music the hifi plays are surly different things??
Me too, it's deeply depressing! :(
But, I like the way Pat's been so honest about it - and I enjoy his writing style :)
Marco.
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