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Ninanina
01-09-2016, 23:05
I am selling this on behalf of Colin who purchased the TSS (The Second Statement) from James (Sovereign)

It went back to James as it went faulty and so far has not had a successful repair

Therefore it is now up for sale on a 'Spares or Repair' basis

When the TSS was working it was an absolutely wonderful sounding amplifier

I am sure someone on here could make a successful repair to it but please do not ask what needs repairing as neither myself or Colin know the answer to that, thanks for understanding

It has to be worth £100 for somebody to have a 'tinker' with

This is to be paid for by Paypal 'friends/family' to Colin BEFORE being picked up. This is to be picked up from James in Maidstone

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/NVA1_1.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/NVA1_1.jpg.html)
http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/NVA5_1.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/NVA5_1.jpg.html)
http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/NVA3_1.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/NVA3_1.jpg.html)
http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/NVA3_2.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/NVA3_2.jpg.html)

Marco
01-09-2016, 23:26
Hi Bev,

Surely NVA would repair it? :scratch:

It's certainly a bargain though at £100.

Marco.

P.S Who's James?

Ninanina
01-09-2016, 23:28
Hi Bev,

Surely NVA would repair it? :scratch:

It's certainly a bargain though at £100.

Marco.

I have no idea if NVA would repair it and to be honest neither myself or Colin is interested in going down that route so £100 it is, and as you say it's a bargain at that ;)

walpurgis
01-09-2016, 23:32
That has to be worth getting sorted Bev.

I suspect it may be tricky to deal with as there may be bonded joints in the housings, but there is nothing that cannot be serviced or repaired.

Ninanina
01-09-2016, 23:35
That has to be worth getting sorted Bev.

I suspect it may be tricky to deal with as there may be bonded joints in the housings, but there is nothing that cannot be serviced or repaired.

Thanks Geoff but to be honest Colin just wants it gone.. so a bargain price for someone who has the 'knowledge'...

Marco
01-09-2016, 23:35
I have no idea if NVA would repair it and to be honest neither myself or Colin is interested in going down that route so £100 it is, and as you say it's a bargain at that ;)

Okes, no worries. So who's Paul? Try as I might, I don't see how he fits into the equation.... Was he the extra one who made up the 'threesome'? :D

Marco.

Ninanina
01-09-2016, 23:41
Okes, no worries. So who's Paul? Try as I might, I don't see how he fits into the equation.... Was he the extra one who made up the 'threesome'? :D

Marco.

Paul ?? If you mean James then that's Sovereign, here on AoS, and he is the chap that originally sold the TSS to Colin and then he had the amp back as it went faulty. James (Sovereign) still has the amp and as it's not worth us picking it up (not for the £100 asking price!) it is to be picked up from James in Maidstone... hope that makes sense... :)

Marco
02-09-2016, 06:51
Yes it does. Don't know where I got Paul from (it was late last night), as I wrote James the first time I asked the question. The identity of the 'mysterious James', however, as mentioned in your opening post, has now been revealed (as I see you've now put 'Sovereign' in brackets)! ;)

Good luck with the sale :cool:

Marco.

struth
02-09-2016, 08:32
That has to be worth getting sorted Bev.

I suspect it may be tricky to deal with as there may be bonded joints in the housings, but there is nothing that cannot be serviced or repaired.

Depends on whats been used to bond it. Obviously there is somethong you can use to debond it but not knowing does make it tricky.
Its a good price even for the parts though.

Audio Al
02-09-2016, 08:51
I will have it Bev :)

Mark Grant
02-09-2016, 11:15
It looks nice :)

Arkless Electronics
02-09-2016, 12:55
I can probably fix it.

Firebottle
02-09-2016, 13:38
I'm sure any competent electronics engineer could fix it, and make it reliable.

:)

Marco
02-09-2016, 13:57
It's been back a few times,NVA will not entertain fixing it again.

Ah, I see. Wonder what's causing it to go wrong so often? :hmm:

Anyway, the components inside alone are probably worth £100, so regardless, it's still a bargain, especially as Jez, or one of our other resident EEs would sort it!

Marco.

karma67
02-09-2016, 16:07
sorry i got it wrong,ive copied this from another site which clears things up,
It has never been back to NVA for repair .

it was sold to an ex-friend of the docs, Alan Brown for a much reduced price on the grounds it was a prototype and would never be sold .
when Brown tried to sell it ,doc warned potential purchasers that the seller had broken an agreement , it was never meant for resale and to discourage the sale said he would never service it or mend it .
Low and behold it broke shorltly after sale and this is were we are .Ninanina and colin and soverign are fully aware it cannot be returned to NVA for repair and were arses for buying it and re-selling it .

This is a prototype model not for sale or re-sale .

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 17:53
I will have it Bev :)

PM sent...

Old boy
02-09-2016, 18:33
If this is still available I'll take it and collect from Maidstone

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 18:37
If this is still available I'll take it and collect from Maidstone

Hi Kev
I believe Al wants the NVA but if that doesn't go ahead I will let you know, thanks :)

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 19:00
Selling items is always tricky.. ;)

The NVA has been offered to Al so he has first refusal on the amp, I think that's the proper and correct way of doing things

I have PM'd Al and also emailed him directly

I think I'll give it until 23:00 tonight and if I havn't heard back from Al by then the amp will be offered to the next interested person, which is Kev at the moment

Do you all think that is a 'fair' way of handling things?

Arkless Electronics
02-09-2016, 19:05
I'm confused at to how there is no interest in someone's working Hafler amp at £50 but loads in a spares or repair at £100 :scratch:

GLWS Nina

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 19:22
I'm confused at to how there is no interest in someone's working Hafler amp at £50 but loads in a spares or repair at £100 :scratch:

GLWS Nina

I don't know Jez but it might be that people know how fantastic this amp will sound once it has been repaired ;)

DSJR
02-09-2016, 19:27
A Hafler ain't a bad amp at all in any shape or form and I bet they're very easily serviced as some came to the UK in retail *kit* form I remember. Like me though, it's old and largely forgotten now.

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 20:15
Does anyone know if Audio Al works nights or odd hours as I still have not heard a peep from him?

Macca
02-09-2016, 20:53
He does work shifts and nights I believe. I'd give him a bit longer to get back to you.

Ninanina
02-09-2016, 20:55
He does work shifts and nights I believe. I'd give him a bit longer to get back to you.

Ok thanks Martin... I will extend it to tomorrow sometime...

Ninanina
03-09-2016, 14:58
If this is still available I'll take it and collect from Maidstone

PM sent

Audio Al
03-09-2016, 16:10
Bev

Did you get my reply PM ?

Ninanina
03-09-2016, 17:19
Bev

Did you get my reply PM ?

Yes I got your reply PM where you state that you were "only curious not really needing another amp" so I have therefore offered it to Kev

Audio Al
03-09-2016, 17:21
Yes I got your reply PM where you state that you were "only curious not really needing another amp" so I have therefore offered it to Kev

OK
Just checking
Thanks

Allen

Old boy
03-09-2016, 18:09
Bev dropped you a PM

Ninanina
03-09-2016, 19:12
Bev dropped you a PM

Replied to PM

Ninanina
03-09-2016, 21:09
Still available..

Marco
03-09-2016, 21:35
What happened with Kev's offer? Seemed like a 'done deal'? :hmm:

Marco.

Ninanina
03-09-2016, 21:42
What happened with Kev's offer? Seemed like a 'done deal'? :hmm:

Marco.

Well I've had no response from my PM to him so as far as we are concerned it's back up for sale, I think that's reasonable

This time it's on a 'first come, first served' basis... ie. first one to pay the meager £100 asking price gets this amp

I have been more than fair with people and hitherto have been let down a bit

Audio Al
04-09-2016, 02:56
Well I've had no response from my PM to him so as far as we are concerned it's back up for sale

Bev , its only been 3 hours , most people do not reply instantly , cut him some slack please

give it till Sunday night

jandl100
04-09-2016, 06:32
What?
You mean not everyone has a bio-implant linking them permanently to the internet?
Gosh, some people are behind the times. ;)

24 hours minimum response time I would suggest is only fair.

struth
04-09-2016, 09:13
Ive had most of my brain removed and a dual boot system installed.... Yes i would give it a day or 2 Bev. A lot of folk only visit now and then.

Its a good buy though and sure it could be put right... Sure Jez could fettle it properly.

Pieoftheday
04-09-2016, 19:36
If I had the spare. Fold to send it to Jez to fix I'd bite your hand off:(

Ninanina
04-09-2016, 19:43
If I had the spare. Fold to send it to Jez to fix I'd bite your hand off:(

I know how it is James... ;)

I think it might just be a bad time for hifi sales at the moment... maybe I should remove it from sale and put it on again in the winter when things might sell a bit easier..

Pieoftheday
04-09-2016, 19:53
Am I correct no postage?

Ninanina
04-09-2016, 19:57
Am I correct no postage?

Yes sorry about that James but it is ridiculously heavy and would probably need a crate or similar... so pick-up only I am afraid.. :(

Pieoftheday
04-09-2016, 20:04
Bum!!! Ta tho, someone's going to get something a bit special I guess

Sovereign
04-09-2016, 21:16
I have just skimmed through this thread, there is a lot of misinformation here; there is also people pasting comments from [a banned forum] which muddies the waters even further, and it has become a bit like the blind leading the blind. Lets not be like lemmings believing all that we read.
I thought I would just clear up a couple of points:
The amp IS working and it has been for maybe nine months or so. The amp failed and was repaired. An EE friend of mine repaired it and when he was listening to it he mentioned that he heard a slight crackle from one channel and asked me to listen through my system to see what I thought as his hearing is not the best as he has partial hearing in one ear, but his wife said it was spot on and clear as a bell. I have never got round to running it through my system as I have spent much of this last year in hospital. Anyway, I just rigged the amp up to some spare speakers and all is good, I am always impressed how good this amp sounds.

I have posted a video below of the amp working 30 minutes ago, as you can tell I am no videographer :eek: (EDIT) The video is taking bloody ages to upload, when It's done I'll post it, maybe tomorrow)
I'll also say, contrary to some of the miss information on this thread that has been written by people who have never tried to fix an NVA amp; NVA amps are probably the easiest amps to fix due to their incredibly simple design, all credit to RD here for this approach, it is this simple design which goes a long way in making NVA amps sound as good as they do. If an engineer can't fix an NVA amp then he needs to find another profession, even a competent DIY'er could give it a shot. There is a lot more I could say to bring clarification but I'll save my breath as it were.

So here we have a working prototype reference TSS NVA amp that sounds blisteringly good, going for £100!

Justjon
04-09-2016, 22:09
I'll take it and will collect next weekend.
If Colin can send payment details, I'll pay first thing in the morning (now off to bed).

Thanks
Edit..
Decided against this and have sent PM.
I'm not comfortable buying something that in my opinion should never have been up for sale in the first place (not that I'm blaming Bev for that)

Marco
05-09-2016, 18:05
Thread tidied up and reopened. Any posts made must be *strictly* on-topic. Any that aren't, including the authors, will be removed without notice.

Marco.

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 18:16
Thread reopened. Any posts made must be *strictly* on-topic. Any that aren't, including the authors, will be removed without notice.

Marco.

Thanks Marco...

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 18:19
Contrary to the post made by James, No.43, this amp will still only be sold on a 'Spares or Repair' basis

If the amp is working I guess that's a bonus for someone, however it is being sold as NOT working...

Thanks all...:)

Sovereign
05-09-2016, 18:51
Thought it might help the sale to show it working well.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/SovereignKing/th_IMG_1501.mp4 (http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/SovereignKing/IMG_1501.mp4)

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 19:03
Thanks for taking the time to do that James ;)

I can assure people that it does sound much better than the clip though...:D

Old boy
05-09-2016, 20:27
Jesus ! Can somebody tell me what the fukc is going on here ?
It's only a £100 ffs ! I send a PM late the other eve just asking for a contact number and and address to arrange collection from Maidstone, hell the tech guy giving it the once over only lives up the road near the Maidstone hospital
I get a reply requesting payment first ( which I was already aware of so no problem ) I don't think asking for the collection address and a contact number was unreasonable ?
I the NEED an address to collect the amp from or am I missing somthing here ?
I was at my sons wedding in Folkestone all day yesterday and have only just got back home - I don't spend my whole life on a HIFI forum ........... If the amps gone now it's really no big deal ....but why the hell all the fuss and bother over £100 amp,it's truly beyond me

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 20:31
Jesus ! Can somebody tell me what the fukc is going on here ?
It's only a £100 ffs ! I send a PM late the other eve just asking for a contact number and and address to arrange collection from Maidstone, hell the tech guy giving it the once over only lives up the road near the Maidstone hospital
I get a reply requesting payment first ( which I was already aware of so no problem ) I don't think asking for the collection address and a contact number was unreasonable ?
I the NEED an address to collect the amp from or am I missing somthing here ?
I was at my sons wedding in Folkestone all day yesterday and have only just got back home - I don't spend my whole life on a HIFI forum ........... If the amps gone now it's really no big deal ....but why the hell all the fuss and bother over £100 amp,it's truly beyond me

Hi Kev
I am so sorry you feel like that

I obviously misunderstood your PM.. oops :doh:

If you are still interested then please PM me...

Thanks for understanding

karma67
05-09-2016, 20:36
I'd like to know why on earth you'd sell an amp as "not working" when someone else has posted a video saying it works well??? Very confusing to say the least.

Marco
05-09-2016, 21:00
Thought it might help the sale to show it working well.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/SovereignKing/th_IMG_1501.mp4 (http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/SovereignKing/IMG_1501.mp4)

Not working for me - and showing some dodgy looking ads!

You'll need to fix this, James. or I'll have to remove it.

Marco.

struth
05-09-2016, 21:07
working for me now

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 21:07
I'd like to know why on earth you'd sell an amp as "not working" when someone else has posted a video saying it works well??? Very confusing to say the least.

Jamie it is not confusing at all...

Like I said "If the amp is working I guess that's a bonus for someone" but neither myself or Colin has had anything to do with the repair/s so cannot vouch for it so we are being 'responsible' and selling it as 'spares or repair'...

I don't know what else to say to people and to be honest Colin has 'lost the will to live' over this 'For Sale' thread...Colin's view of forums is not very high and will not get involved with them, hence why I listed it, and he has always said I should leave forums alone; I actually don't agreee but I do see his point ;)

If the amp is not sold within the next few days it will be removed from sale, we will collect it from James, and it will probably be crushed into many little pieces by Colin.... which would be a shame considering the quality of sound on offer for £100..

Sovereign
05-09-2016, 21:48
Not working for me - and showing some dodgy looking ads!

You'll need to fix this, James. or I'll have to remove it.

Marco.
Feel free to delete as necessary. I'm no pro on posting links.

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 21:49
PM sent to Kev (Old boy)

Marco
05-09-2016, 22:00
Feel free to delete as necessary. I'm no pro on posting links.

It seems to be working now.

Marco.

Ninanina
05-09-2016, 22:02
Thanks James for agreeing to have the buyer contact you directly, once the amp is paid for, to arrange a time/date etc to pick the amp up.. Involving myself or Colin would only confuse the issue and we would only be 'piggy in the middle' :)

It helps a lot James

I will let you know, by PM, once the amp is paid for so you can go ahead arranging the above

Bev

Ninanina
06-09-2016, 18:26
After chatting to Colin he's asked that if the amp hasn't been paid for by Thursday 8th September evening then I am to remove it from sale and that will be forever. I think that is enough time for any truly interested party. This thread has now had over 4,000 views and 58 replies so I think it's run it's course

Obviously if the amp has been paid for, but not yet collected by that date/time, that's perfectly fine

Just as a reminder this is NOT for cash on collection as James does not own the amp, Colin does.. just to clear up any misunderstanding ;)

Thebiglebowski
06-09-2016, 19:42
NVA amps are probably the easiest amps to fix due to their incredibly simple design, all credit to RD here for this approach, it is this simple design which goes a long way in making NVA amps sound as good as they do. If an engineer can't fix an NVA amp then he needs to find another profession, even a competent DIY'er could give it a shot.

Well it is just an old 1970's PA amplifier in a tupperware box after all :)

Ninanina
06-09-2016, 19:49
Well it is just an old 1970's PA amplifier in a tupperware box after all :)

But a very nice sounding 'tupperware box'... :):D

Ninanina
07-09-2016, 16:47
After being let down yet again, I won't comment as I may say something I will regret but I've had some very 'interesting' PM's, this amp is still available

As it will cost about £25 in petrol for us to pick the amp up from James I am reducing the amp to £75

However as per my previous post this will only be staying on until Thursday 8th evening and then it will be removed from sale

After this time we will indeed pick the amp up but it won't be up for sale again

Ninanina
07-09-2016, 17:51
Both myself and Colin are very principled people so this amp will not be made avaiable to 'certain' member/s especially after he/she/them bellyaching on this thread... :):mental::mental:

I can assure you Colin is not 'that' desperate for the £75 :D

Macca
07-09-2016, 18:07
Please would you all remember this is a sales thread and the only comments allowed are questions from potential purchasers or praise along the lines of 'I had one of these and they are dead good'.

If you want to discuss a bit of kit, start a thread in the appropriate section.

Thanks all.

Barry
07-09-2016, 18:07
Being selective about whom you sell your amp to, is against the spirit of this Forum. If you want to choose to whom you sell the amp, I suggest it might be better if you advertise elsewhere.

Ninanina
07-09-2016, 18:23
Being selective about whom you sell your amp to, is against the spirit of this Forum. If you want to choose to whom you sell the amp, I suggest it might be better if you advertise elsewhere.

And the comments I have received and the 'c**p' I've been subjected to is also, I believe, "against the spirit of this forum"

Pieoftheday
07-09-2016, 18:34
Both myself and Colin are very principled people so this amp will not be made avaiable to 'certain' member/s especially after he/she/them bellyaching on this thread... :):mental::mental:

I can assure you Colin is not 'that' desperate for the £75 :D

£100 delivered :eyebrows: I know I know,:(

Ninanina
07-09-2016, 18:52
NOW SOLD

Please can one of the mod's Close/lock this thread, thanks, as I don't want anymore rubbish being thrown at myself, Colin or James