View Full Version : Reasons to be Cheerful: What's made you happy today
What's wrong is always there, but so is all that's right in our lives. What's lifted your spirits today? I've had a bit of a clear-out and feel all the better for it.
walpurgis
28-08-2016, 19:31
Having a popular 'Pet Hates' thread cheers me up. :)
I've had a bit of a clear-out and feel all the better for it.
Nice one, Andy. That's what a bloody good dose of Senokot does for you! :D
Marco.
A bit obvious I know, but "Reasons to be Cheerful, Part 3":
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Nice one, Andy. That's what a bloody good dose of Senokot does for you! :D
Marco.
I'll try some overnight: Give me something to fell better about tomorrow :lol:
Fixed my lappy with a win 7 install and new sshd ... flying along and saved me lots of pennies .
Fixed my nappy with a win 7 install
A safety pin usually suffices :)
Wakefield Turntables
28-08-2016, 20:12
moshing with my 2 year old daughter to Faith no More. You should all try it some time.
Acquiring a 2 year old daughter from scratch is a bit of an ask at my point in life. The Faith No More part I can do.
Firebottle
29-08-2016, 05:12
Won't she get worn out Andrew with all the AoS'ers moshing along? :eyebrows:
Wakefield Turntables
29-08-2016, 08:40
Well she had me worn out, we then went onto Ballroom Blitz by the sweet and then whole lotta love by Led Zep. I needed a sit down, my old lungs were ker-nackered. :wheniwasaboy:
I don't have to go to work today but I still get paid. That cheers me up :)
On a bank Holiday? You should be on double-time for that... I'll think about you later, as I'm sunning myself in the garden ;)
And since we're on the subject of bank holidays, what 'cheers me up' no end is watching all the loons sitting in traffic jams on motorways for HOURS, both TO and FROM the places where they were going, to 'relax' this weekend, or waiting in huge queues at airports doing the same... Idiocy! :doh: :mental:
What's remotely 'relaxing' about that? After suffering the stress of getting to your destination and back, you need another holiday to get over the one you've supposedly just had!! :D
Even funnier, however, is that the sheep all follow each other to the same old places, year after year, so no wonder there are bloody huge queues everywhere! Maybe, just maybe, if they applied a little lateral thinking, and went somewhere off the beaten track from where everyone else was likely to go, they'd both see somewhere different and avoid the crowds......
Just a thought, like!
Marco.
A safety pin usually suffices :)
Fixed..lol.
Having all your passwords typed in a file on pc that is password protected......alas forgetting the password :eyebrows:
On a bank Holiday? You should be on double-time for that... I'll think about you later, as I'm sunning myself in the garden ;)
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I think you misread. I'm NOT at work today. I only took the job because it was Mon-Fri 9-5 with no weekend or Bank Holiday working. First job I've ever had where that is the case and I've had lots of jobs.
I don't have a garden to sun myself in though...
As my father always used to say, a Bank Holiday weekend is the worst time to travel anywhere. Consequently he would always refuse to go anywhere on August BH, much to my mother's chagrin.
Pieoftheday
29-08-2016, 11:20
Realising I have an almost full bottle if gin in the cupboard :)
southall-1998
29-08-2016, 13:39
Eating two Tunnock's Caramel bars for lunch :)
S.
I think you misread. I'm NOT at work today. I only took the job because it was Mon-Fri 9-5 with no weekend or Bank Holiday working. First job I've ever had where that is the case and I've had lots of jobs.
I don't have a garden to sun myself in though...
As my father always used to say, a Bank Holiday weekend is the worst time to travel anywhere. Consequently he would always refuse to go anywhere on August BH, much to my mother's chagrin.
Sorry, yes I misread it, my boob! In terms of travelling on bank holidays, your dad was quite right. Thing to do though, is go in the opposite direction from everyone else! ;)
For example, Chester city centre today was dead, as every other fucker was off to the beach. Nice empty and cool, air-conditioned shops, notably John Lewis, where we were able to browse the TVs for sale, minus disruptions from the usual rabble! :)
Marco.
Eating two Tunnock's Caramel bars for lunch :)
S.
Your arse must be getting close to the size of a bus! :eyebrows:;)
Marco.
Pieoftheday
29-08-2016, 14:43
Eating two Tunnock's Caramel bars for lunch :)
S.
Ooh I haven't seen those in ages, where can I get some?
Wrexham managed a win but were shyte
Going to the corner shop just now because we'd run out of milk, only to be told they were closed; but then the shopkeeper relented and opened up the shop again just to sell me some milk.
Plus we had a very nice day out in Salisbury.
southall-1998
29-08-2016, 21:01
Ooh I haven't seen those in ages, where can I get some?
Try Sainsbury's.
S
walpurgis
29-08-2016, 21:14
Or Tesco, they have them and also, their better own brand choc caramel wafers seem to be Tunnocks in Tesco wrappers. Nice, I have some in the kitchen cupboard, next to my KitKat Chunky bars, which I also like a lot. Much better than the ordinary KitKat (quite partial to Aero too). :D
Audio Al
30-08-2016, 03:45
Head gasket replacement has cured the overheating on my launch :)
Or Tesco, they have them and also, their better own brand choc caramel wafers seem to be Tunnocks in Tesco wrappers. Nice, I have some in the kitchen cupboard, next to my KitKat Chunky bars, which I also like a lot. Much better than the ordinary KitKat (quite partial to Aero too). :D
Aero and kit kat? Nasty Nestle's 'chocolate'. No thanks. They were okay when they were Rowntree's brands.
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 08:01
Aero and kit kat? Nasty Nestle's 'chocolate'. No thanks. They were okay when they were Rowntree's brands.
But they taste as good as ever.
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 08:03
Not all news is bad news. This could be a reason to be cheerful.
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-08-30/separated-twins-defy-the-odds-to-start-their-first-day-at-school/
Not all news is bad news. This could be a reason to be cheerful.
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-08-30/separated-twins-defy-the-odds-to-start-their-first-day-at-school/
Marvelous stuff... pretty girls, and look so similar :rolleyes:
Well it cheered me up! Thanks Geoff. :)
Arkless Electronics
30-08-2016, 19:25
The Bolshoi Ballet and nanny goats...
Ice Age: Collision Course :)
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 19:37
The Bolshoi Ballet and nanny goats...
WTF? :scratch:
Ice Age: Collision Course :)
not seen that one yet
WTF? :scratch:
Jez is referring to the lyrics of Ian Dury's 'Reason to be Cheerful', a song I cited earlier:
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Why don't you get back into bed
Reasons to be cheerful part 3
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Summer, Buddy Holly, the working folly
Good golly Miss Molly and boats
Hammersmith Palais, the Bolshoi Ballet
Jump back in the alley and nanny goats
18-wheeler Scammels, Domenecker camels
All other mammals plus equal votes
Seeing Piccadilly, Fanny Smith and Willy
Being rather silly, and porridge oats
A bit of grin and bear it, a bit of come and share it
You're welcome, we can spare it - yellow socks
Too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty
Going on 40 - no electric shocks
The juice of the carrot, the smile of the parrot
A little drop of claret - anything that rocks
Elvis and Scotty, days when I ain't spotty,
Sitting on the potty - curing smallpox
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Health service glasses
Gigolos and brasses
Round or skinny bottoms
Take your mum to Paris
Lighting up the chalice
Wee Willy Harris
Bantu Stephen Biko, listening to Rico
Harpo, Groucho, Chico
Cheddar cheese and pickle, the Vincent motorsickle
Slap and tickle
Woody Allen, Dali, Dimitri and Pasquale
Balabalabala and Volare
Something nice to study, phoning up a buddy
Being in my nuddy
Saying hokey-dokey, Sing Along With Smokey
Coming out of chokey
John Coltrane's soprano, Adi Celentano
Bonar Colleano
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Yes yes
Dear dear
Perhaps next year
Or maybe even never
In which case
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walpurgis
30-08-2016, 19:51
Ah. I see! :)
Arkless Electronics
30-08-2016, 19:51
and I saw them on Kilburn High Road :D
HackneyRF
30-08-2016, 19:51
WTF? :scratch:
The late great Mr Ian Dury!
and I saw them on Kilburn High Road :D
Yes - but did you see Kilburn and The High Roads? :D
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 19:58
I like Dury, but I'd forgotten those lyrics. Not that I pay that much attention to lyrics anyway as a rule. Unless it's Patti Smith, Lennon, Bowie or Dylan perhaps. I listen to Leonard Cohen's words too, but can't figure out what he's on about usually :D. Great stuff!
HackneyRF
30-08-2016, 20:01
I like Dury, but I'd forgotten those lyrics. Not that I pay that much attention to lyrics anyway as a rule. Unless it's Patti Smith, Lennon, Bowie or Dylan perhaps. I listen to Leonard Cohen's words too, but can't figure out what he's on about usually :D. Great stuff!
There ain't half been some clever bastards with words, and Ian Dury was very much one of them! ;-)
I like Dury, but I'd forgotten those lyrics. Not that I pay that much attention to lyrics anyway as a rule. Unless it's Patti Smith, Lennon, Bowie or Dylan perhaps. I listen to Leonard Cohen's words too, but can't figure out what he's on about usually :D. Great stuff!
Same could be said for Dylan - he's admitted that some of the lyrics he wrote were simply a juxtaposition of words that sounded 'nice' together.
There ain't half been some clever bastards with words, and Ian Dury was very much one of them! ;-)
So was Shakespere - but we've already been there. Pace Marco :D
Lol.... :eyebrows:
When one has to 'try and figure out what someone is on about', rather than it be obvious, one could argue that it defeats the purpose of the original goal: namely communicating a message, and so most will lose the desire to proceed further, thus the author has failed.
In that respect, 'gratuitous arty-fartyness' is completely counterproductive, and says more about the author celebrating how clever he thinks he is, than anything else... ;)
I enjoy Dylan, and indeed have most of his albums, but not because of his skills as a wordsmith.
Marco.
I love obscure lyrics. It has taken me decades to figure out what some Steely Dan songs are about. And I might still be wrong.
Each to his or her own, I guess. What's the point though, if you don't really understand what they mean?
Music for me, is about melodies and rhythms, and something I can 'bop along to' or otherwise, so most lyrics just pass me by. I've always been the same :)
Marco.
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 21:30
Music for me, is about melodies and rhythms, and something I can 'bop along to' or otherwise, so most lyrics just pass me by. I've always been the same :)
Marco.
I do much the same most of the time, but some artists have lyrics that appeal to me, so I pay attention. Frank Zappa's songs can be amazingly clever and funny. Leonard Cohen's album 'Ten New Songs' makes little sense, but paints great pictures lyrically and musically. Patti Smith's words are wonderful too.
HackneyRF
30-08-2016, 21:56
I love obscure lyrics. It has taken me decades to figure out what some Steely Dan songs are about. And I might still be wrong.
And there in lies the beauty Martin. Wether its Donald Fagen singing about alcoholism or Elizabeth Fraser singing Glossolalia gobbledegook it doesn't matter too much, only that sounds good to you regardless of if the lyrics have any message or not.
Anyway back on topic. My reason to be cheerful was a beautiful motorbike ride up to Norfolk In glorious sunshine and a spot of lunch at my friends house before heading back. Nice
The greatest living lyricist is of course Nigel Blackwell of the mighty Half Man Half Biscuit. He can do obscure or simple, and his lyrics are choc-a-bloc with sly references to various literary greats. Here, for example, is a quote from Thomas Hardy randomly inserted in a song about a showbiz reception/party:
I want to perch myself halfway up a metal staircase with the Polydor girls
And talk about meerkats
And come out with statements like:
“Well of course music these days is the slave of mammon and as a result
It has become corrupt and shallow
Its real essence is industry
Its moral purpose is the acquisition of money
Its aesthetic pretext is the entertainment of those who are bored
And yes we’re really excited about going back in to the studio
Hotly tipped, highly anticipated and slated for release”
I wanna meet Howard Marks if I can but they say that I can’t
He’s talking to Ian Broudie
And come four o’clock
If I’m still on my feet
There’s a bloke over there
Who said I could meet…
Ken Livingstone
Well I’m just a primitive creature of the heath so excuse my savage ignorance
But if I’m still on my feet at four o’clock
I’ll be stealing the lead off the roof
Follow me oh follow
Down to the hollow
And there we will wallow
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Come saddle my milk white steed
I’ve seen much more than I need
And I know that you won’t heed the call
So I sprayed it on to the wall
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
So was Shakespere - but we've already been there. Pace Marco :D
Shakespeare, he's in the alley, with his pointed shoes and his bells.
I saw them filming a Dr Who episode today, but that was more a wtf? moment than a reason to be cheerful.
Same could be said for Dylan - he's admitted that some of the lyrics he wrote were simply a juxtaposition of words that sounded 'nice' together.
One of my favourite Dylan quotes, in answer to someone complaining that his songs no longer had a 'message':
'If you want messages, call Western Union'.
walpurgis
30-08-2016, 22:56
I saw them filming a Dr Who episode today, but that was more a wtf? moment than a reason to be cheerful.
Still churning out that rubbish are they? It lost whatever it had twenty five years ago.
The greatest living lyricist is of course Nigel Blackwell of the mighty Half Man Half Biscuit. He can do obscure or simple, and his lyrics are choc-a-bloc with sly references to various literary greats. Here, for example, is a quote from Thomas Hardy randomly inserted in a song about a showbiz reception/party:
I want to perch myself halfway up a metal staircase with the Polydor girls
And talk about meerkats
And come out with statements like:
“Well of course music these days is the slave of mammon and as a result
It has become corrupt and shallow
Its real essence is industry
Its moral purpose is the acquisition of money
Its aesthetic pretext is the entertainment of those who are bored
And yes we’re really excited about going back in to the studio
Hotly tipped, highly anticipated and slated for release”
I wanna meet Howard Marks if I can but they say that I can’t
He’s talking to Ian Broudie
And come four o’clock
If I’m still on my feet
There’s a bloke over there
Who said I could meet…
Ken Livingstone
Well I’m just a primitive creature of the heath so excuse my savage ignorance
But if I’m still on my feet at four o’clock
I’ll be stealing the lead off the roof
Follow me oh follow
Down to the hollow
And there we will wallow
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Stealing the lead off the roof
Come saddle my milk white steed
I’ve seen much more than I need
And I know that you won’t heed the call
So I sprayed it on to the wall
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Thy, damnation, slumbereth, not
Yes, but does the tune make you want to 'boogie'? ;)
Otherwise, wake me up when it's over....
Marco.
Here's a thought regarding 'obscure lyrics'.... If someone you knew continually talked in riddles, under the pretentious notion that they were being 'clever', 'arty' or whatever, yet you couldn't understand them when they spoke, would they have achieved their aim, as outlined, or just be an annoying pain in the arse? ;)
Marco.
No harm in trying it but to do it continually when its obvious that said smartness goes over the bonce, implies being a smart ass ;)
Here's a thought regarding 'obscure lyrics'.... If someone you knew continually talked in riddles, under the pretentious notion that they were being 'clever', 'arty' or whatever, yet you couldn't understand them when they spoke, would they have achieved their aim, as outlined, or just be an annoying pain in the arse? ;)
Marco.
Probably less of a pain in the arse than someone who spoke in 'three words a day' style, under the mistaken notion that farts, poo and wee are still amusing after the age of ten or so.
But context is everything. The aim of language is to convey meaning to another person. If I'm discussing an author with my PhD supervisor, we can both use technical terms that would probably seem pretentious and/or baffling to a non-expert. in the same way, a techy person can use techy terms to someone with an equivalent level of knowledge, that would simply be baffling to a non-techy person. But if we limited ourselves strictly to basic English, on the basis that anything else is 'pretentious', conversation would be extremely limited.
walpurgis
31-08-2016, 09:51
Probably less of a pain in the arse than someone who spoke in 'three words a day' style, under the mistaken notion that farts, poo and wee are still amusing after the age of ten or so.
How could that be "a mistaken notion", if some do find them funny?
Sure most folk do find such funny at times..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wjuXMwGnxc
How could that be "a mistaken notion", if some do find them funny?
Very well, insert 'continually' and 'always' in my sentence to make it more like Marco's:
Probably less of a pain in the arse than someone who continually spoke in 'three words a day' style, under the mistaken notion that farts, poo and wee are always amusing after the age of ten or so.
Probably less of a pain in the arse than someone who spoke in 'three words a day' style, under the mistaken notion that farts, poo and wee are still amusing after the age of ten or so.
Lol... However, plenty of adults find scatological humour funny. I'm certainly not alone in that, and there are many professional comedians who use it as part of their acts!
But context is everything. The aim of language is to convey meaning to another person. If I'm discussing an author with my PhD supervisor, we can both use technical terms that would probably seem pretentious and/or baffling to a non-expert. in the same way, a techy person can use techy terms to someone with an equivalent level of knowledge, that would simply be baffling to a non-techy person. But if we limited ourselves strictly to basic English, on the basis that anything else is 'pretentious', conversation would be extremely limited.
Indeed, and of course I understand that. However, you mention context.... So, in terms of a musician, selling his albums to a myriad of different people, many of whom are not linguists or PHD-trained, is that the correct context in which to indulge in such 'pretension'?
Don't get me wrong, I totally appreciate why people enjoy the likes of Dylan, in terms of the use of language in his lyrics, which one could call clever or 'obscure', or other artists of that ilk, so I have no problem with that whatsoever.
What I do have a problem with, however, and we've discussed this before, is when the appreciation of any art from, whether it be music, words, sculpture or paintings, becomes 'high-brow' or elitist, as that's usually what attracts snobbery - and *that* is something I abhor to the core. I hate snobs and detest any form of elitism!
Unfortunately, I feel that 'disease' often rears its ugly head when people 'over-intellectualise' music, and they start getting 'all deep' about 'the message that the artist is portraying', instead of keeping it simple and judging it along the lines of: does the music (if it's the right type) put a smile on your face, improve your mood, make your feet tap or you want to get up and dance? Essentially, is it a 'groovy tune'?
That, for me, is what music is primarily about (or the opposite, creating a dark mood), not subject matter with which to construct an English dissertation.
YMMV.
Marco.
Indeed, and of course I understand that. However, you mention context.... So, in terms of a musician, selling his albums to a myriad of different people, many of whom are not linguists or PHD-trained, is that the correct context in which to indulge in such 'pretension'?
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I feel that often rears its ugly head when people 'over-intellectualise' music, and they start getting 'all deep' about 'the message that the artist is portraying', instead of keeping it simple and judging it along the lines of does the music (if it's the right type) put a smile on your face, improve your mood, make your feet tap or you want to get up and dance? Essentially, is it a 'groovy tune'?
That, for me, is what music is primarily about, not subject matter with which to construct an English dissertation.
YMMV.
Marco.
Well, again, it depends. Some musicians want to engage with the largest possible audience, so they write simple tunes with simple lyrics. Other musicians may not want to do that, or they get bored with it (as the Beatles did) and do more 'out there' stuff which means they lose some of their earlier fans, but be appreciated years later by a different set of fans. There is no onus, other than commercial pressure, on a musician to 'put a smile on your face, improve your mood, make your feet tap or you want to get up and dance', unless that's what they want to do. I for one wouldn't want to be without the music of, say, Nick Drake or Leonard Cohen , because they aren't out to improve my mood or make me dance.
Nigel Blackwell's lyrics are great, but they work best if you have some understanding of the wider musical and social context. Thus the lines:
'I keep a wristwatch on this area of mine
I keep my flies wide open all the time
And I shot a man in Tesco
Just to watch hime die'
work better if you know that they are parodying two Johnny Cash songs. The song title, 'L'Enfer C'est les Autres', is a quote from Jean-Paul Sartre, but is also a reference to the song's 'meaning' - the hell that is other people.
I sometimes like music to be simple, but not always. Best of all is when the superficially simple has deeper/darker undertones that only become clear when you've knocked round the world a bit more.
Dont see the problem with 3tiny words personally, within reason, but some people love to make an issue about it. I suppose it depends on where you did most of your education and life skills. After saying that, some complain, not so much about what, but who, or just to complain.
Not nes pointing a finger at anyone, so dont anyone take it personally unless the hat helmet fits
No problem with any of that, Joe. However, do you take my point about elitism and snobbery, and see how easily it can creep into the appreciation of music, with certain types of people using it to 'score points' over others, in a demonstration of supposedly how 'clever' they are?
Trust me, it happens! ;)
Oh, and some of the best music ever written contains no lyrics whatsoever, so when listening, one is simply left with one's own thoughts and emotions, as evoked by music itself, letting it 'wash over you', as it were, rather than trying to decipher a musician's 'obscure' or pretentious use of words. Ambient music, for example, can be very rewarding in that respect.
Outside of what you describe as 'simple music', that's my preferred world :thumbsup:
Marco.
No problem with any of that, Joe. However, do you take my point about elitism and snobbery, and see how easily it can creep into the appreciation of music, with certain types of people using it to 'score points' over others, in a demonstration of supposedly how 'clever' they are?
Trust me, it happens! ;)
Well, it's never happened to me. The trouble is, how to distinguish when someone is being obscure for the sake of being obscure, as opposed to someone trying to do something genuinely new and different? I give artists the benefit of the doubt, and assume the failure to engage is at least as likely to be my fault for not understanding what they're trying to do, as their fault for being perversely 'difficult'.
Anyway, here's a quiz from the BBC to determine one's level of musical snobbery:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/bd25239b-5a33-4514-8cbd-c97f6f22c0b1
Had to guess most. Others didnt have correct options but i scored 1. Think for to be a music snob quiz, you would need proper questions written by a proper snob.:ner:
Dont see the problem with 3tiny words personally, within reason, but some people love to make an issue about it. I suppose it depends on where you did most of your education and life skills. After saying that, some complain, not so much about what, but who, or just to complain.
Not nes pointing a finger at anyone, so dont anyone take it personally unless the hat helmet fits
Indeed, and one cannot help but detect a whiff of snobbery and/or 'sniffy superiority' from its detractors, as if they're 'too good' to laugh at such. The fact is, you can't help what you find funny; it's an emotional response, so what tickles one person's 'funny bone' won't necessarily tickle another's... Being snootily judgemental about 3WD, I feel says more about you than its contents.
If you don't like the 3WD thread, don't read it. In that respect, I'm surprised that its detractors are often so 'au fait' with its contents - a guilty pleasure, perhaps? :eyebrows:
The whole purpose of 3WD is to provide an outlet for some light-hearted banter, or if you have a penchant for a certain kind of humour, or when you just feel like writing some meaningless drivel, rather than getting involved in the more serious discussions taking place elsewhere on the forum.
Trouble is, the po-faced, joyless types who dislike it, don't really *get* the meaning or the purpose of banter, so you can just imagine how much fun these folk are to be around in real life! Then again, I suspect that having FUN is also a rather alien concept to some of them ;)
Marco.
The thing with me is I don't take anything seriously, including banter.
walpurgis
31-08-2016, 11:30
The thing with me is I don't take anything seriously, including banter.
Then why do you keep presenting what on the face of it appear seriously toned posts? I'm not suggesting you should refrain from posting by the way.
Then why do you keep presenting what on the face of it appear seriously toned posts? I'm not suggesting you should refrain from posting by the way.
It's a form of self-parody
Just a quick point on this:
There is no onus, other than commercial pressure, on a musician to 'put a smile on your face, improve your mood, make your feet tap or you want to get up and dance', unless that's what they want to do. I for one wouldn't want to be without the music of, say, Nick Drake or Leonard Cohen , because they aren't out to improve my mood or make me dance.
Absolutely, but the latter is why the vast majority of people enjoy listening to music. They see it as a way to have fun or 'let go', or to indulge in a form of escapism, not as an excuse for an 'intellect workout'. I suspect you'd find that out if you polled a large section of the general public, and asked them the question.
In terms of Nick Drake or Leonard Cohen, I know exactly where you're coming from. Again I have most of their albums, and enjoy them very much. They don't improve my mood or make me want to dance either. However, neither do I sit there 'marvelling over' the beauty or obscurity of their lyrics...
What 'hooks me' to their music, are the rhythms and melodies, superb guitar-playing, and in terms of Cohen, his deep and gravelly voice - and how all that 'sounds'. What they're actually singing about is virtually immaterial to me. They could be singing their shopping list, for all I know.
Amazing how differently, as human beings, our brains are wired, eh? :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
31-08-2016, 11:38
Watching my kids watch the same cartoons I used to watch and really enjoy them.
It's a form of self-parody
Are you also like that in real life, Joe? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading your posts, but in real life, no disrespect, I think I'd find you rather 'hard work'. I prefer simple, straightforward people. The 'what you see is what get' type.
If I have to start working out what you're about, and figuring out your quirks, then I'd quickly lose interest. That's not a criticism of you, btw, as it's good that we're all different. I just try to avoid having unnecessary complications in my life, that's all :)
Marco.
In real life, I'm a very good listener, which is perhaps why I spout so much bollocks on-line.
Arkless Electronics
31-08-2016, 11:54
I guess I could be called a musical snob... and I have no problem with it. I can't stand over simplified crap and when I hear anything from the likes of Lady Gaga, Rhianna, Madonna, Blue, Back street boys etc etc etc I just think "moronic music for morons" for which I make no apology... Same with anything which has that non stop dum thss dum thss "disco beat" (if that makes any sense). Worst off all is if one is unfortunate enough to find one selves amongst a group of middle aged+ drunken women who are in charge of the music somewhere.... run for your sanity unless you want to hear "Agadoo", "Dancing queen" etc on repeat:eek:
I have never and would never post in 3WD...
Lol - so do you generally participate on forums, just to have a 'jolly'?
Being a good listener is a very enviable human trait.
Marco.
Watching my kids watch the same cartoons I used to watch and really enjoy them.
I think the old looney tunes stuff should be shown on tv more. You never see it now but it was great for all ages and never did anyone any harm. Its probably not pc now i guess... Tom n jerry rule... And roadrunner ..beep, beep
It was a damn sight more entertaining than Peppa Pig and Fireman Sam, that's for sure.
I guess I could be called a musical snob... and I have no problem with it. I can't stand over simplified crap and when I hear anything from the likes of Lady Gaga, Rhianna, Madonna, Blue, Back street boys etc etc etc I just think "moronic music for morons" for which I make no apology... Same with anything which has that non stop dum thss dum thss "disco beat" (if that makes any sense). Worst off all is if one is unfortunate enough to find one selves amongst a group of middle aged+ drunken women who are in charge of the music somewhere.... run for your sanity unless you want to hear "Agadoo", "Dancing queen" etc on repeat:eek:
I have never and would never post in 3WD...
With the type of 'music' you're describing I'm in full agreement, as it's simply disposable pap, containing little talent or imagination. I guess that in some people's eyes that also makes us 'music snobs'. However, in terms of the current discussion, are you more of a lyrics guy than a 'tunes & rhythms' person or vice versa?
One observation I'd make, from having spent years posting on audio/music forums, is how much what one could call 'thinking man's music' is preferred by members over music that's designed to just make you want to dance, basically because from what I can see, not many forum folks are what one would call the 'dancing type' - and probably have about as much sense of 'soul' or rhythm as your average cadaver! :eyebrows:
Hence why, 'thinking man's music', and intellectualising over such, is generally much preferred to sticking on, say, some Donna Summer, and getting down and 'shakin' ya booty' :dance: :dance:
;)
Marco.
Lol - so do you generally participate on forums, just to have a 'jolly'?
Mostly, yes. I'm not able to give technical advice, am not a box-swapper so don't have much to offer by way of subjective opinions, so all I can offer are my off-topic opinions/ideas mixed in with some subtle humour. Years ago on a politics forum someone said they had this mental picture of me foaming at the mouth with anger as I framed my posts, than which nothing could be further from the truth.
Macca on here has frighteningly similar views to mine, and a similar sense of humour. It was quite a relief when he came out as a Brexiter because finally there was something we could disagree about.
Ha - like it.
You know me though, I simply can't get 'het up' about such matters. After all the 'hoo-hah' over Brexit, I'm still waiting for my stress-free and financially secure, semi-retired lifestyle, here in North Wales, to markedly change for the better or worse... And I suspect I'll be saying the very same thing in ten or 20 years time! ;)
Brexit - for the vast majority of ordinary people, it was a case of 'much ado about nothing'.
Marco [Politics: simply not important enough to get worked up about... Now football, that's a different matter :eyebrows:].
Marco [Politics: simply not important enough to get worked up about].
Especially Scottish independence.
Ha - you've seen nothing, in that respect. Imagine if I still LIVED up there!! :eyebrows:
However, that doesn't stop me from having a pathological hatred of the 'establishment' and being a puppet/victim of (deeply unjust) Westmonster control. Both still apply, even though I'm now living in Wales, which is why the rest of us have to break free, and leave London (and the chinless wonders down there) to it!
Marco.
Off to Silverstone in a fancy camper van with some friends for the Moto GP tomorrow for 4 days.
Headlining the stage last year was Adam Ant (and bloody fantastic he was), this year is the turn of Rick Astley.
So, daytime drinking, titting around on the dodgems, bike racing, live music and more drinking…
Thats what made me happy today :pub:
walpurgis
04-09-2016, 10:08
Keith Vaz disgraced! That cheers me up :lol:.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/married-mp-keith-vaz-tells-8763805
Notice I didn't use terms like 'self righteous' or 'jumped up' or 'prick' in reference to him.
Dearie dearie me. I sometimes wonder if shagging rent boys is secretly compulsory for male MPs. I'm surprised they haven't made it free on the NHS.
Firebottle
04-09-2016, 11:39
There are some very amusing posts on here :lolsign:
Martin is his usual very engagingly insightful self (:thumbsup:).
'So, daytime drinking, titting around on the dodgems, bike racing, live music and more drinking…' cracking Jon.
Had son and daughter plus her family over today so that made me smile... Dont get chance to see them all very often. they were all looking good; even Misha the terrier. Folk who have family should see them as much as they can, as you never know when you wont be able to.:)
The Celtic result!! :yay:
;)
More on that later, on the football thread....
Marco.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj205/anthyyyyy/14369857_778378698971855_3187285047126177773_n_zps 2h5tpzul.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/anthyyyyy/media/14369857_778378698971855_3187285047126177773_n_zps 2h5tpzul.jpg.html)
:D
walpurgis
18-09-2016, 21:14
:lol:
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