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karma67
02-07-2016, 06:46
i fancy giving one of these a try,have you got one you'd like to sell?

walpurgis
02-07-2016, 09:40
They're a lovely MC Jamie. I've had a couple.

topoxforddoc
02-07-2016, 10:58
Thakker in Germany have a number of NOS vintage Ortofon MC carts. Unfortunately they have sold all of the MC25FLs. But they do have some MC20 and 30 variants available

https://www.thakker.eu/en/cartridges/?aoff=9

Monty
02-07-2016, 11:09
PM sent.

karma67
02-07-2016, 11:13
Thakker in Germany have a number of NOS vintage Ortofon MC carts. Unfortunately they have sold all of the MC25FLs. But they do have some MC20 and 30 variants available

https://www.thakker.eu/en/cartridges/?aoff=9
nice one thanks.

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replied. :)

337alant
02-07-2016, 11:32
I loved mine but my son snapped the Cantilever so its in the draw, been toying with getting it re tipped but I must admin I replaced it with a Kontrapunkt B which has a similar sound but more refined
A bargain if you can pick up a low miles one cheap I only paid £50 for mine and it was like new

Alan

walpurgis
02-07-2016, 11:37
The Goldring Eroica LX offers much of the same. I had both at the same time, each very musical (still got the Eroica).

Barry
02-07-2016, 13:21
I'm using one at the moment. Along with the Denon 103, I regard the MC25FL as a good cartridge for everyday use.

Rumor has it that Ortofon made a loss on them, so ceased production.

helma
02-07-2016, 14:33
Not sure what's the deal with all the Ortofon models, the MC25E & FL seem very close to MC10 & MC20 Supremes specwise, but it seems the Supremes were/are a bit more pricey for some reason. The Supremes were later replaced with the (now discontinued?) Rondo range, which to my understanding were pretty much the same generator in a different, wood & resin based body. I have the MC10 Supreme and it's an excellent cartridge, I find it very well balanced and it has a good punch in the bottom end unlike some other modern Ortofons which to my ears can sound a tad lean sometimes. It has a nude elliptical stylus which seems to be of very high quality. I've heard the Ortofon Fineline in VMS30FL and soundwise I didn't find there to be much if anything between the Fineline / Elliptical (VMS20), just that the fineline tracked a bit better and was more forgiving on damaged records. It was probably the best stylus I've heard in that respect. Based on that I'd expect the MC25E & FL to sound almost identical with each other, but would expect better tracking and longer stylus life from the FL version.

karma67
11-07-2016, 17:53
this is one hell of a cartridge,im really enjoying it with no thoughts of the nagaoka mp-500 going back on.
beautiful!

struth
11-07-2016, 17:55
good aint they;)

walpurgis
11-07-2016, 18:05
Told you they were nice! :)

What phono stage setup are you using Jamie?

karma67
11-07-2016, 18:29
it keeps you wanting to play more records!
im using it with grants old Nakamichi ca5 pre amp,set to 50 ohms, recommended is 20 ohms loading

walpurgis
11-07-2016, 18:57
As I've not used the Nakamichi, I can't comment on that, but I had some lovely sounds from the MC25FL into a Fidelity Research FRT-3 SUT used with a Graham Slee ERA V Gold MM stage.

karma67
11-07-2016, 19:13
i doubt its on par with those 2,did you sell your step up in the end?

walpurgis
11-07-2016, 19:29
I've still got an FRT-3 and two other very decent SUTs. Used with a Graham Slee Reflex M these days, but I really enjoyed the musicality of the ERA V Gold.