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Haselsh1
21-11-2009, 14:48
OPTION ONE:
Purchase an Origin Live DC Motor conversion for my Thorens TD160 Super with Alphason Xenon tonearm and Denon DL160 cartridge
or
OPTION TWO:
Sell the above seperately and purchase a Technics SL1210 Mk5G
The DC motor conversion would incur the greater outlay as I think I would do quite well selling the Thorens and the Alphason. The conversion kit is around £340 and is apparently easy to fit.
What do you think...???
The Vinyl Adventure
21-11-2009, 15:27
techi-techi-technics, join the possey
davey-davey-c will take your money
time step psu
an a new cart for you
hap-hap-hap-hap-hap-happy
:scratch::smoking::scratch::gig::lolsign:
Hamish have you been sniffing the Tipp-Ex again? ;)
The Vinyl Adventure
21-11-2009, 16:24
gave my self a day off from everything today... its quite dull when you have just dold you hifi... ... ...
Primalsea
21-11-2009, 16:30
I have never really been sold with DC motor conversions.
Too many times I hear people attribute physical properties of materials on how they allegedly sound. MDF platters sound dull and flat, Hey MDF is dull and flat, Glass sounds all brittle and ringy, Hey glass is brittle and ringy etc etc. I found many people attribute the sound difference of DC motors to how they think they work ie, DC is flat voltage as opposed to AC thats wavey. This ignores the fact that AC is not wavey but circular a bit like the way the platter moves - in circles.
Haselsh1
21-11-2009, 16:35
I have never really been sold with DC motor conversions.
Too many times I hear people attribute physical properties of materials on how they allegedly sound. MDF platters sound dull and flat, Hey MDF is dull and flat, Glass sounds all brittle and ringy, Hey glass is brittle and ringy etc etc. I found many people attribute the sound difference of DC motors to how they think they work ie, DC is flat voltage as opposed to AC thats wavey. This ignores the fact that AC is not wavey but circular a bit like the way the platter moves - in circles.
Sounds a bit like wacky baccy time to me...???
I guess they're no good then...? For 340 quid I expected a better response.
Haselsh1
21-11-2009, 16:38
Hamish have you been sniffing the Tipp-Ex again? ;)
Love that...!!! Absolutely love it...:bum:
Primalsea
21-11-2009, 17:25
Well, I wouldnt go that far, its just it may not be better than what you have. Just because its DC doesnt mean its better.
Haselsh1
21-11-2009, 18:05
OK it's just that the Origin Live website claims it is stunningly revolutionary in almost every way and that it will radicalise almost every turntable. They seem to have a whole host of quotes to that effect also.
I guess once again it is each to their own. I have no preference either way as I find the Technics SL1210 Mk5G pig ugly and given that I would have no intention of modifying it in any way I have to be sure about what I intend to do.
I, like many other people, find it very difficult to get over the 'plastic DJ deck' idea that seems to come with the Technics. I do however understand that what it does it does very well and with the minimum of fuss and stress.
I'll have to give this considerable thought.
Hi Shaun,
I have no preference either way as I find the Technics SL1210 Mk5G pig ugly...
That I can understand (and sympathise with), although not necessarily agree with; particularly as the MK5G (and MK6) is better finished than than the others :)
...and given that I would have no intention of modifying it in any way I have to be sure about what I intend to do.
That one I can't.
Why wouldn't you modify it - I don't really understand what the issue is against doing so... Help me out here! :scratch:
Put it this way: unmodified the Technics is very average and not really worth the money new. As a second-hand purchase it's rather different, though. Modify it, like I have with mine (or even further with Dave's new bearing) and you'll have a 'superdeck' for 'pocket money'.
I, like many other people, find it very difficult to get over the 'plastic DJ deck' idea that seems to come with the Technics.
LOL - I really don't know where this comes from or why it keeps coming up... There is no plastic anywhere on the Technics SL-1200/1210, except perhaps the slider on the pitch control or maybe the start button! ;)
Also, what is there to "get over", exactly? Sorry to 'question' you like this, matey, but I'm just trying to understand exactly where you're coming from.
To answer your thread question....
OPTION ONE:
Purchase an Origin Live DC Motor conversion for my Thorens TD160 Super with Alphason Xenon tonearm and Denon DL160 cartridge
or
OPTION TWO:
Sell the above seperately and purchase a Technics SL1210 Mk5G
The DC motor conversion would incur the greater outlay as I think I would do quite well selling the Thorens and the Alphason. The conversion kit is around £340 and is apparently easy to fit.
What do you think...???
I think the question you have to ask yourself is can you live with owning a 'plastic DJ deck' (even if it is no such thing), and also how it looks?
If the answer is 'no', then forget all about it and go for 'Option One'; if the answer is 'yes' (or: 'I'll learn to live with it, if it can be made to sound awesome'), and you're willing to carry out the necessary modifications, then go for 'Option Two'. I can then advise you further, if necessary :cool:
Marco.
Rare Bird
21-11-2009, 20:28
I've played with DC Motors on Thorens they aint that ace..I had better results from a proper power supply for the standard Motor..The Voltera (Hercules in a box) & Heed Orbit 2 will fit the bill
Stratmangler
21-11-2009, 20:30
OK it's just that the Origin Live website claims it is stunningly revolutionary in almost every way and that it will radicalise almost every turntable. They seem to have a whole host of quotes to that effect also.
I have memories of reading a review of a Linn LP12 being fitted with a DC motor kit, and the reviewer was very pleased with the result.
Linn on the other hand have rubbished any non Linn modifications.
I just find it funny that Linn now have a Radikal new motor drive system, and guess what - yep, it's DC motor based.
Chris;)
chris@panteg
21-11-2009, 23:31
Hi Shaun
Marco has pretty much summed it up really , i would add the little clip on the arm rest is plastic ;) , its only when you have a closer look at one in the flesh , that you realize ' there is actually a pretty serious bit of engineering going here .
I would strongly urge you to listen to a modified 1200 1st before making any decision , again i agree with Marco don't bother with a stock 1200 ' its ok but as Gromit described it ' a bit of a one trick pony ' .
The thing is ' you have nice arm in the Alphason this might be a wonderful match for the techy.
What about your TD160 ' are you unhappy with it or do just crave a bit more ' is it an itch that needs scratching .
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 00:11
Linn on the other hand have rubbished any non Linn modifications.
I just find it funny that Linn now have a Radikal new motor drive system, and guess what - yep, it's DC motor based.
Chris;)
Is that where it get's more rubbish than it is? Is that possible?
:lolsign:
Joking aside
Shaun: That TD160Super/HR100S is a very good deck with a bit of non DC work.
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 00:18
Andre ' you're not one of these Linn Basher's are you old chap ' tut 'tut .
I have on occasion Linn bashed myself but only in moments of drunken sincerity , i don't feel comfortable doing it anymore though .
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 00:21
Who me! Never ;)
Not a DC fan but the best thing that ever happended to that deck was the *PLINK*
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 00:41
Ahh yes the plink '
The thing i remember is Linn reaction to it ':steam: blimey i thought they were going to send the boys round to Arthur's place.
It all seem so Ridiculous really.
Still the question is can the TD160 be improved other than this DC kit ' what other options has Shaun got ' if any .
Stratmangler
22-11-2009, 00:47
Is that where it get's more rubbish than it is? Is that possible?
:lolsign:
Joking aside
Shaun: That TD160Super/HR100S is a very good deck with a bit of non DC work.
I haven't made any qualitative statements about the old fruit box:eyebrows:
That said I'll stick to me TD125 for my occasional forays into my vinyl collection.
Chris;)
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 01:23
Ahh yes the plink '
The thing i remember is Linn reaction to it ':steam: blimey i thought they were going to send the boys round to Arthur's place.
It all seem so Ridiculous really.
Aye cos they know Arthurs better at making decks sound good :lolsign:
The Plink 2 is even better.
Still the question is can the TD160 be improved other than this DC kit ' what other options has Shaun got ' if any .
Aye he could try the two power supplies i mentioned for his deck.. Funk Achromat is a great upgrade..Lots of tweeking, the sub can be scrapped & replaced & the wood surround too.
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 01:31
I know John's just done a sole for the TD150 complete with proper bearing mount, i see no reason why he can't do a TD160
http://www.analogueinnovation.com/page4.htm
Primalsea
22-11-2009, 12:32
Deciding on a turntable can be a tricky one and you can end up kissing a lot of frogs until you get a prince. to be fair there are a lot of TT's out their that are good. I would rate a Garrard 401 as long as its properly plinthed and serviced. Of course I own one so I would say that, however I did hear a lot of decks before I bought the 401. I was always taken by the World Designs room at shows. They always had a 401 and Phono3, Pre3. 2 Friends have Michell Gyrodecs one of which is a rare export edition with heavier platter weights. Both these sound really good as well.
So many things are passing fads in the hifi world. People rave about stuff until the next big thing. IMO you have to look for the things that stand the test of time as these end up being the keepers.
know John's just done a sole for the TD150 complete with proper bearing mount...
Hi Andre,
Perhaps I've missed something, but John who? :)
Marco.
I'll chime in here as someone who put an OL DC kit on my LP12 after my Valhalla went 'PHUT'
I found it OK. Not staggeringly different but OK... but I have a suspicion that the problem lay in the kit which wasn't brilliantly engineered IMHO but it was one of the early ones. Secondary to this was the fact I'd replaced mt Ittok arm with an OL1 (RB250 with all the mods) which, again, was OK but not stunning. On balance I preferred the rather euphoric presentation of the LP12/Valhalla/Ittok combo.
Fed up with the incessant nagging worry that the ole fruitbox wasn't performing to it's best and frustrated that the only way forward seemed to be to spend wads of dosh, I went for the 1200 route. Now my 1200 hasn't been massively modded - it still has a std arm albeit Origami'd with a Thrunobulaxx counterweight and Sumiko headshell, with a KAB fluid damper, but it to me sounds at least as good as my Linn ever did. There are areas which need fettling - it doesn't have the same 3D soundstage but I think the next step of a timestep PSU and maybe a jelco arm would cure that.
I guess you'd be looking at a budget of around £600 if you sold the Thorens... for that I'd be inclined to get a Tecchie S/H (take time to find a good un), stick a TimeStep on it, decent feet and mat and a Sumiko headshell and see how it grabs you...
What I love is that with the Techie, mods are reasonable in price and seem to be stepping stones rather than wholesale revamps - I always had the impression with the Linn it was a case of 'Well, you really need a new subchassis, but without the PSU and new springs and and and...' I like the 'fit and forget' nature of the Technics.
Jason
Haselsh1
22-11-2009, 15:17
Sorry for delay in getting back to this post... We've had guests all weekend.
Many thanks for everyone's contribution but I think I've made my decision.
I'm gonna keep the Thorens and turn it into a bit of a project for next year. Firstly; I will fit an Origin Live DC motor conversion with separate controller. This will negate some of the minor niggly problems I have with the turntable at present. The 45 rpm speed is a bit noisy and the on/off switch thumps a bit through the mains.
Secondly; I'm gonna fit a better tonearm or get the Alphason reconditioned and rewired and then I'm gonna fit a Sumiko Blackbird cartridge.
Do you agree/disagree...???
I may then look at a custom made plinth.
And finally; I'm gonna be seriously hunting out some used vinyl at record fayres and the like.
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 15:18
Hi Jason
You are in for a treat 'when you get the timestep:) it really open's thing's up .
Marco ' John is the guy who make's this i think .
http://www.analogueinnovation.com/page3.htm
Haselsh1
22-11-2009, 15:21
OK so I've just got Jason P's post and now I'm not so sure all over again. Sheite...!!!
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 15:25
Shaun ' i think you need to have a listen to some other deck's , as well as a modified techy ' just to get some idea of what you really want.
Hi Jason
You are in for a treat 'when you get the timestep:) it really open's thing's up .
Marco ' John is the guy who make's this i think .
http://www.analogueinnovation.com/page3.htm
Ah, right - ta. I know who Andre means now... It was just the way that he'd brought John into the discussion with no introduction as to whom he was (before he posted the link) :)
Marco.
Shaun,
What is it though about modifying a Techie that you don't seem keen on doing?
I'm curious! :)
Marco.
Haselsh1
22-11-2009, 15:32
Shaun ' i think you need to have a listen to some other deck's , as well as a modified techy ' just to get some idea of what you really want.
Yes I agree with you entirely. I'll start the hunt after Christmas around my local area then moving further afield. Many thanks.
Haselsh1
22-11-2009, 15:34
Shaun,
What is it though about modifying a Techie that you don't seem keen on doing?
I'm curious! :)
Marco.
Marco, I'm not about to spend 550 quid on a new turntable and then have to spend another 550 quid making it right. I'd rather spend 550 quid on what I have now. I'm nearly OK with what I have, it just has a few rough edges that need sorting out and they are mostly due to age.
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 15:49
Shuan
If you did consider the 1200 ' the mk2 is the best option ' its no where near £550 , brand new for around £395 or better still a very good used one for around £250 (not used by a DJ).
Buy the timestep from Dave (270 with discount for AOS members) an armboard for the Alphason , it need not cost as much as you think .
But i do sense you don't fancy the techy ' which i can understand.
Marco, I'm not about to spend 550 quid on a new turntable and then have to spend another 550 quid making it right. I'd rather spend 550 quid on what I have now. I'm nearly OK with what I have, it just has a few rough edges that need sorting out and they are mostly due to age.
Shaun, a Techie needn't cost anything like £500. You can get very good second-hand ones on Ebay for around £120 - and they haven't been shagged by DJs either...
However, your last sentence is the most telling, and so given that, I'd forget all about a Techie (or anything else) and simply fettle your Thorens. You already own an excellent tonearm :)
Btw, are you still up for meeting in December? If so, please PM me your address :cool:
Marco.
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 17:34
Hi Andre,
Perhaps I've missed something, but John who? :)
Marco.
John owns the company in the link i posted!
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 17:36
Ah, right - ta. I know who Andre means now... It was just the way that he'd brought John into the discussion with no introduction as to whom he was (before he posted the link) :)
Marco.
Sorry dude i thought you Were up on these things
:lolsign:
LOL - I am (to a degree). It just didn't click first time until you posted the link. I don't know the chap as well as you do :)
Btw, talking of Arthur (and what he can do to LP12s), you wanna hear his latest Funk mods for it... I've never heard a fruitbox sound so good!
Marco.
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 20:08
The Vector drive !
Yes i would like to hear that ' its similar to the Voyd but 1 motor and 2 pulley's , i think
Btw, talking of Arthur (and what he can do to LP12s), you wanna hear his latest Funk mods for it... I've never heard a fruitbox sound so good!
Marco.
Presumably that was the one at the Manc show, it was a bit good wasn't it:smoking:.
Did you see the pictures of the isolation device (?Kradle?) for the Techie? Bit strange looking, with a stranger price tag but if it works.....
Cheers
Spot on, Ralph and Chris :)
Put it this way, guys, (almost blushing as he says this :o) I could easily live with it!!
It's completely lost all the thick sounding 'flab' and bloat in the bass (which does my head in), sounding, leaner and meaner, supremely detailed, and fast and dynamic (without losing any of its 'famed musicality' in the process)...
When has that ever been said about an LP12 before?? The fanboys would hate it, though!! :lol:
Marco.
chris@panteg
22-11-2009, 20:43
Yes ' without meaning to turn this into an LP12 thread ' i do feel the main weakness of the Linn is the drive system , Arthur's solution seems brilliant to me (no more wobble on start up) but then again i have not heard it ' alas .
Marco's coy admission is good enough for me though:)
Hi Chris,
Well, basically, Arthur has made the drive system more accurate, so therefore the whole turntable performs better. As they say, 'it ain't rocket science'. He knows exactly what he's doing ;)
It always amazes me why people would buy any turntable with such a distinct 'flavour' which is so obviously euphonic coloration and not part of the recording. It's not as if I'm the only one who can hear this! I suppose it's rather like pouring brown sauce or ketchup on chips: people like 'flavour enhancers'.
And, yes, you're quite right. The Achilles heel of the LP12 is its drive system, which is why the Radikal has had such rave reviews, as it addresses what is fundamentally wrong with the LP12, although IMO Arthur has been much more successful in doing this, and done it considerably more cost-effectively, too!
Other than its drive system, the LP12 is actually rather good. If only Ivor had managed to implement what he had intended at one point, all those years ago, and made it direct-drive :)
However, based on what I heard at the Manchester show, Arthur has managed quite spectacularly with his new modifications to combine the best sonic traits of both worlds (belt-drive and direct-drive) in the LP12, which if it gets the recognition it deserves could prove to be rather revolutionary...
Marco.
Rare Bird
22-11-2009, 23:40
Spot on, Ralph and Chris :)
Put it this way, guys, (almost blushing as he says this :o) I could easily live with it!!
It's completely lost all the thick sounding 'flab' and bloat in the bass (which does my head in), sounding, leaner and meaner, supremely detailed, and fast and dynamic (without losing any of its 'famed musicality' in the process)...
When has that ever been said about an LP12 before?? The fanboys would hate it, though!! :lol:
Marco.
The mans a genius aswell as a top bloke.
I fully concur with that, and far more of a (genuine) genius than Ivor T ever was!!
The truth of the matter though is that both have different skill sets and are very good at what they do: Ivor is an out-and-out entrepreneur/businessman, whereas Arthur is a designer/inventor.
Sadly, only very rarely do people in the hi-fi business possess both skills equally, which is generally why the former often make lots of money, and the latter are fondly remembered for their talents, but often end up broke!
Having met Arthur at the Manchester show, and spoken at length with him, I'm worried that he's doing way too much and will at some point soon burn himself out, if he keeps on going the way he's going. I hope I'm wrong.
Marco.
Marco, the LP12 only acquired its "character" when the Ittok was introduced, the bass going to pieces in the early eighties. Not an issue with Linn speakers from this era, but there you are...
The LP12 does well as a "blue-printed" Thorens 150, but the prices charged for these updates smacks of desperation to stay alive I reckon..
Rare Bird
23-11-2009, 08:59
I fully concur with that, and far more of a (genuine) genius than Ivor T ever was!!
The truth of the matter though is that both have different skill sets and are very good at what they do: Ivor is an out-and-out entrepreneur/businessman, whereas Arthur is a designer/inventor.
Sadly, only very rarely do people in the hi-fi business possess both skills equally, which is generally why the former often make lots of money, and the latter are fondly remembered for their talents, but often end up broke!
Having met Arthur at the Manchester show, and spoken at length with him, I'm worried that he's doing way too much and will at some point soon burn himself out, if he keeps on going the way he's going. I hope I'm wrong.
Marco.
I know Arthur, he's his own man.He works alone cos that's what he does now, it's probably once bitten.The only thing i fear for him is a company based around turntables alone. He'll do well he's respected. I respect him..I'll always praise him on fora when ever i get the opportunity.
Marco, the LP12 only acquired its "character" when the Ittok was introduced, the bass going to pieces in the early eighties. Not an issue with Linn speakers from this era, but there you are...
Dave, it's interesting that you should mention the Ittok, as the Funk'd LP12 I heard had Arthur's 'tweaked' Ittok on it, which I have to say sounded fantastic even with an Ortofon Rondo Red (which I'm not a fan of) fitted on it.
Andre, yep, Arthur has my respect, too. We get on well :)
Marco.
Primalsea
23-11-2009, 19:40
At a Heathrow show a couple of years ago Arthur's room was one of the best sounding. It was about the same time he launched the Funk TT's
The Funk Firm TT's go the opposite way to, say, a Garrard 401, they are light weight and well damped. Very good though but start around £950 sans tonearm.
Nothing wrong with an Ittok, but on an early LP12 it overloaded the structure and the low bass "booooiiiiinnnnnngggggg" was clearly audible if the arm-board was lightly tapped when playing. As the bass got better, the brashness in the Ittok treble became more audible, hence the gradual changes culminating in the Ekos clank-arm.....
I'm not sure Arthur need bother himself with tarting up the LP12, as his own ideas are unique and distinctive. Just my view...
Beobloke
24-11-2009, 15:34
The LP12 stuff is all very well (and very good) but, personally, I'm looking forward to trying Arthur's F.X arm mod for the Technics SL1200.
Uh-oh................................................ ....:)
chris@panteg
24-11-2009, 22:51
The LP12 stuff is all very well (and very good) but, personally, I'm looking forward to trying Arthur's F.X arm mod for the Technics SL1200.
I am intrigued by that also ' but how much can you gain with the stock arm , and then there is the price to consider .
The LP12 stuff is all very well (and very good) but, personally, I'm looking forward to trying Arthur's F.X arm mod for the Technics SL1200.
Hi Adam,
That would be most interesting, although as Chris says, I'm not sure that there is much mileage in improving the stock arm in terms of cost-effectiveness and suitability for use with quality moving coil cartridges, particularly when there are superb tonearms out there (such as the Jelco SA250 or SA750) which are ready-made for the job and very competitively priced.
Arthur would certainly have to go some to make the stock Technics arm better the Jelcos and beat them on price, too. I had the fully KAB-modded stock arm before I got my Jelco 750, and so know its intrinsic limitations. The bearings are very good, but the (rather resonant) armtube and headshell are of only average quality, and the internal wiring and tonearm cable are basically crap, so Arthur has his work cut out if he's to effect a major transformation - and one which people will pay for when the Jelcos already offer a valid ready-made and cost-effective solution :)
I'd love to hear the results, though! :cool:
Marco.
chris@panteg
25-11-2009, 10:42
Marco
You rightly point out the arm's weakness's , yet so far no one has tried anything with the arm tube '
All the things you mention can be upgraded ' i would suspect it may be quite a transformation (you know Arthur) but then how much will he charge ? also why is he taking it on when he has so much on his plate already ' is the 1200 becoming trendy ?.
Hi Chris,
You rightly point out the arm's weakness's , yet so far no one has tried anything with the arm tube '
Nope, and it would definitely be sonically significant. The point I'm making though is that if he's going to do the job properly, then he'll need to address the arm tube issues, completely re-wire the whole arm and then fit a better headshell. The counterweight balance, too, could do with being replaced for something more substantial.
You may as well then begin from scratch and fit a far better engineered tonearm to start with! :)
Like you say, too, how much would it all cost - and is it likely to be any better than a Jelco SA750, which can be bought ready-made for the job and looks the dog's bollocks?
I admire him for taking it on, but frankly I think it's a bridge too far. However, I hope he succeeds because regardless of anything else, it'll increase the 1200/1210s user-base and make it a more popular choice in the audiophile market, which is what I've always wanted to happen.
also why is he taking it on when he has so much on his plate already ' is the 1200 becoming trendy ?.
That's the most significant thing for me. The very fact that Arthur thinks there's a market for these tonearm modifications shows beyond a shadow of a doubt how popular modifying the Technics is becoming with people in his target market - and that target market is precisely those who would otherwise buy one of his own T/Ts or an LP12, Pro-Ject, Roksan, Michell, or whatever, which shows how much the Techie word is spreading!
That can only be a good thing, and something I predicted would happen ;)
AoS will certainly be doing all it can to further the process as much as possible...
Marco.
Beobloke
25-11-2009, 12:12
The point I'm making though is that if he's going to do the job properly, then he'll need to address the arm tube issues, completely re-wire the whole arm and then fit a better headshell.
But that's exactly what he is doing!! :)
I have a picture of the prototype from the Munich Show this year somewhere - I'll dig it out and post it up when I get a chance.
Nice one Adam - look forward to seeing the pic :)
Like I said, I wish Arthur well with this project, as it will get the Techie out to a wider audience. For that reason alone it's worth doing.
However, from a purely hi-fi point of view, and his arm mods becoming a valid alternative to the Jelcos, much will depend on the final price vs. performance of the assembled candidates...
Btw, your partner in crime at HFW is coming to visit me on Saturday for a sesh - should be fun! :cool:
Marco.
Rare Bird
25-11-2009, 13:35
Btw, your partner in crime at HFW is coming to visit me on Saturday for a sesh - should be fun! :cool:
Bet that little boudoir of yours has seen some action in it's time :eyebrows:
:lol:
Aye, I hope he's not allergic to leather.......:eyebrows:
Marco.
Rare Bird
25-11-2009, 13:41
Are they handcuffs i can see attached to your mana racks?
:flasher:
In the depths of North Wales no-one can hear you scream........................
Muhahahahaha........ :mad:
Marco.
Aside from Marco's predeliction for err...well... whatever, I understand from the Funk website that the 1200 arm mods will be in the order of £750, same as the Ittok ones. Which makes sense inasmuch as it's the same order of work - rewire, re-arm and headshell. It'd have to kick ass though, that's SME 309 territory cost-wise innit?
Now, where's my spare Techhie arm... and lottery ticket...
Jason
I understand from the Funk website that the 1200 arm mods will be in the order of £750...
I think that's going to make it difficult to justify, unless it comprehensively outperforms the Jelco 750, which I would be very surprised with.
Who knows though? If anyone can transform the Techie arm, Arthur can. I guess that I'll get a listen to the results at some point :)
Anyway, I'm not sure how relevant to me all this is, since next year I'll be playing around with 12" arms on my SP10 ;)
Marco.
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