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realysm42
16-06-2016, 01:39
This thread is in part a rant and in part a question. I'll start with the rant as I need to vent; the last few hi-fi purchases I've made have either had quality issues of one type or another or narrowly avoided huge disappointment, here are some examples:

1. Fuses I bought - top of the range, came with corrosion marks over the contacts, sent them back so fair enough. QC at the manufacturer though?

2. New preamp - nothing actually wrong with it, in fact it's perfect but that's only because of me being extra paranoid and asking loads of seemingly stupid questions. I specified I wanted a remote control function, the only reason it came over to Australia (from England) with one is because I double checked just before it was shipped.

3. PSU for PC - I asked the manufacturer to send me the spec to confirm the build and extras. I only thought to ask this from the above experience (point 2). Turns out it's a good ting I asked as they've not built it to the power specifications they themselves quoted me as needing originally! Bare in mind I've waited more than a year for this thing, can you imagine how frustrating this is? Also, this thing isn't cheap (not that this should matter, but it's been a source of anxiety spending around $4K on something that I've not seen yet).

4. Amplifier - Can you imagine my surprise when it came to me with the face plate rattling around in the box? Turns out the screws come loose in transit. Use fucking Loctite on them then! don't tell me matter-of-factly afterwards. Jesus.

5. DAC - was originally sent to me with the wrong type of XLR output connectors. To be fair it was all rectified, free of charge for me (as it should have been).

I love this hobby and I love supporting the people I think deserve my custom, but some of these things are so easy to avoid it's almost sad; when a customer orders something, use a spec sheet, so if they want anything out of the ordinary you've got it nailed down. Once the spec is complete, send it to the customer, so that there is no ambiguity between you and them. Make sure said spec sheet follows the unit through the build so that everyone that touches it knows what's expected of them. How hard is that?

So the question, am I cursed or is this level of service we should expect from this industry as a norm?

Ps I know the cost of things shouldn't come into it (everything should be right), but when you're spending thousands on things you really want your faith in the manufacturer to be rewarded.

realysm42
16-06-2016, 10:59
Just me then it seems :D

Frazeur1
16-06-2016, 11:35
No Martin, it isn't just you at all. While overall I have had really decent service from most of the shops and manufactures of hifi/electronics products and can complain little in general, most everything else especially in the service world has been subpar, and I do realize this is a bit different from what you are talking about in general.

Situations of promised delivery times/dates missed by wide margins even after making sure all ducks in the proverbial row prior, but in the end having to take extra time off from work to get things done etc. I generally try to lower my expectations anymore, it is easier on me, which is kind of sad in a way.

Probably most of the time that I have had issues has come when something deviates slightly from the standard, "off the shelf" type things or doing a special on-off. One needs to sometimes hand-hold to make sure all gets done to your specifications etc.

Hopefully these negatives will pass and things will all come together for you!

Macca
16-06-2016, 13:28
Part of a wider malaise, really. Too many people only doing a job at all because they are worried about being bollocked or sacked if they don't, instead of doing it and doing it well, because they take personal pride in it.

realysm42
20-06-2016, 02:22
So going back to point 1, would you consider the finish on the third fuse I've received acceptable? These are Hifi Tuning Supreme fuses - so a 35 quid 'premium' product, baring in mind I've already complained about the (far worse) ones that were originally sent:

17289

This is how they're advertised online:

http://www.analogueseduction.net/hi-fi-tuning-fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html

Macca
20-06-2016, 07:50
They don't look as shiny as the ones pictured, that's for sure.

Have to say hell would freeze over before I would spend money on this sort of thing, corroded or not.

doodoos
20-06-2016, 07:51
Aren't there any decent audio manufacturers Down Under? Save on postage!

realysm42
20-06-2016, 08:08
No decent fuse manufactures I'm aware of. Furutech of Japan i guess. I'm not worried about the price of things, more the accuracy of whats been requested.

I just popped one fuse into the dac and another into the mains conditioner; I've got to say they've made a surprising difference to the sound. The third is for the paul hynes psu when it turns up.

The others I'm waiting on are for the Magtech amp (2x) and one for the internals of the dac. I already know they make an improvement on the amp. Happy days :)

Spectral Morn
21-06-2016, 15:17
No decent fuse manufactures I'm aware of. Furutech of Japan i guess. I'm not worried about the price of things, more the accuracy of whats been requested.

I just popped one fuse into the dac and another into the mains conditioner; I've got to say they've made a surprising difference to the sound. The third is for the paul hynes psu when it turns up.

The others I'm waiting on are for the Magtech amp (2x) and one for the internals of the dac. I already know they make an improvement on the amp. Happy days :)

AMR

realysm42
22-06-2016, 03:50
Hi Neil,

When I googled them I got loads of hits from UK sites (including their own) so I'm puzzled :scratch: Are you suggesting them because they're a brand you use and recommend?