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Pieoftheday
01-06-2016, 18:38
i thought it was time for a change and found this, BMW f800r 20151709717098170991710017101 im having to learn clutch/throttle control all over again as its very different to my previous yam:)

Ali Tait
01-06-2016, 20:03
Nice.

walpurgis
01-06-2016, 20:33
Don't know anything about modern BMW bikes. Looks like a twin. Does it ride well James?

Pieoftheday
02-06-2016, 06:26
Don't know anything about modern BMW bikes. Looks like a twin. Does it ride well James?

Yes its a twin, rotax engine i believe, it rides great, lots o low and midrange grunt compared to other bikes ive had, sounds good too!!

walpurgis
02-06-2016, 08:47
I like twins. My last was a humble GS500. Not quick, but very useable. Handled OK too.

Pieoftheday
02-06-2016, 09:54
I like twins. My last was a humble GS500. Not quick, but very useable. Handled OK too.

I borrowed a gs500 some years back when my bike needed some work ,it died in the middle of Huddersfield in heavy rain,:(

Firebottle
02-06-2016, 10:48
I didn't know Rotax supplied engines for bikes, they are usually known for aviation engines.

walpurgis
02-06-2016, 10:54
Rotax have supplied many bikes with engines. BMW obviously and for many years. MZ and Armstrong spring to mind too. No doubt there are others.

I had a Rotax powered Armstrong MT500 ex army all terrain bike. It was a pig! Bastard awkward left kick start, would never idle properly and had useless brakes :rolleyes:.

RMutt
02-06-2016, 20:50
Aprilia's RSV, RSVR,etc had Rotax V-twins.

HackneyRF
02-06-2016, 22:24
There's also an 80's Matchless with a Rotax unit in it. My brother has one. That's a pig to start too!
Quite long wheelbase that Beemer has by the looks of it James. Looks fun.

Cheers

Loz

walpurgis
02-06-2016, 22:32
There's also an 80's Matchless with a Rotax unit in it. My brother has one. That's a pig to start too!

Cheers

Loz

I saw a couple of those at a sprint held at North Weald. They were tuned and went like the clappers for singles!

(mind you, my old Yam SZR-660 didn't hang around for a single either, not seen one on the road for years)

Pieoftheday
03-06-2016, 07:45
There's also an 80's Matchless with a Rotax unit in it. My brother has one. That's a pig to start too!
Quite long wheelbase that Beemer has by the looks of it James. Looks fun.

Cheers

Loz

Only managed just over 100 miles so far but yes FUN, once on the move,getting it off the line is the most awkward ive bike ridden in 30 years,very easy to stall! Apparently Boosterplug cures this,a bit like a power commander ,I'll get to know it better first.winding on from 3rd is quite addictive :)

HackneyRF
03-06-2016, 10:32
winding on from 3rd is quite addictive :)

Ah yes, the joy of a big twin. :-)

Arkless Electronics
03-06-2016, 12:09
I like twins. My last was a humble GS500. Not quick, but very useable. Handled OK too.

I had one of these as a ride to work bike... awful build quality, real cheap n nasty! Yeah handled good but slow.

Pieoftheday
06-06-2016, 20:45
There's also an 80's Matchless with a Rotax unit in it. My brother has one. That's a pig to start too!
Quite long wheelbase that Beemer has by the looks of it James. Looks fun.

Cheers

Loz
Your right about the long wheelbase, hadn't considered it, Steering slower than I'm used to

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 16:27
well not quite1719217192 its called an Accelerator Module, it effectivley tricks the bike into thinking the air is cooler thus getting a richer air/fuel mix and hopefully fixing the jerkey response in first,looking forward to a spin tomorrow:)

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 16:53
I didn't know you'd had a problem with it.

A richer mixture should 'fatten' the midrange a bit. Maybe at the expense of a bit of top end.


I dislike modern technology on bikes. 'Fly by wire' controls and digital engine management just mean more complexity and dear parts. Important if you want ultimate performance I suppose, but I like things simple. You can't fix a dud chip at the side of the road. Not that you'd have a spare anyway or even know what bit had packed up in any case, without plugging in a diagnostics computer.

I'd be happy still using carburettors, points and condenser on the ignition and cable controls. I'd not want to go back to drum brakes though! :)


Your bike musings have got me at it, looking at bike sale listings. I'm tempted to get another. I must be mad! :mental:

Arkless Electronics
11-06-2016, 17:01
On a down note re bikes:( My local bike dealer Ian Bell was killed yesterday in race 2 of the side cars at the TT. RIP Ian. He wasn't a close mate but I had known him for several years, chatted bikes over the odd pint with him in local pubs a few times and bought bikes from him. He was married with two kids. His son Carl was the passenger but is OK.

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:02
Hi Geoff, the bike isn't great setting off in first,very easy to stall,apperently they run very lean.EU emmisions:steam:i had quickly got used to it but still didn't like it, from web research this is a cheap ,I paidŁ40,fix.looking forward to a spin tomorrow. What you been looking at?

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:05
On a down note re bikes:( My local bike dealer Ian Bell was killed yesterday in race 2 of the side cars at the TT. RIP Ian. He wasn't a close mate but I had known him for several years, chatted bikes over the odd pint with him in local pubs a few times and bought bikes from him. He was married with two kids. His son Carl was the passenger but is OK.

That's awful Jez, that's 5 I think this year,how anyone gets round amazes me

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 17:14
That's awful Jez, that's 5 I think this year,how anyone gets round amazes me

+1 That's bad. I'd heard there'd been casualties.

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:19
Hi Geoff, the bike isn't great setting off in first,very easy to stall,apperently they run very lean.EU emmisions:steam:i had quickly got used to it but still didn't like it, from web research this is a cheap ,I paidŁ40,fix.looking forward to a spin tomorrow. What you been looking at?

Ooops

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 17:20
What you been looking at?

Anything really. Probably something smallish and cheap for now. Got three cars on the road at the moment costing me money.

GS500, MZ :eek:, even a dinky Innova 125. Had all three before and got a soft spot for 'em. If I sell one of the cars, maybe an SV1000S. Always fancied one.

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:38
Anything really. Probably something smallish and cheap for now. Got three cars on the road at the moment costing me money.

GS500, MZ :eek:, even a dinky Innova 125. Had all three before and got a soft spot for 'em. If I sell one of the cars, maybe an SV1000S. Always fancied one.

A Suzuki sv1000? Lad at work had one, barking mad they are, I think early ones broke their frames the engine was so bonkers:eek:

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 17:42
What I'd really, really, like. Is one of these:

http://i66.tinypic.com/29xzu3t.jpg

Rare Yamaha SDR 200. Jap market only. A few made it here.

Wicked little tool! 60 mph in 5.5 seconds is going some for a 200. I've only seen a couple and they look amazing in the flesh.

A small bike is fine by me. I'm not big and it won't get used every day. A bit of weekend fun is what I need.

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 17:46
A Suzuki sv1000? Lad at work had one, barking mad they are, I think early ones broke their frames the engine was so bonkers:eek:

Mate had a TL 1000R with basically the same engine. That was nuts. Bit on the big side though. The SV is very compact.

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:51
Mate had a TL 1000R with basically the same engine. That was nuts. Bit on the big side though. The SV is very compact.

It's the TL I'm thinking of, the sv was more usable

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 17:53
What I'd really, really, like. Is one of these:

http://i66.tinypic.com/29xzu3t.jpg

Rare Yamaha SDR 200. Jap market only. A few made it here.

Wicked little tool! 60 mph in 5.5 seconds is going some for a 200. I've only seen a couple and they look amazing in the flesh.

A small bike is fine by me. I'm not big and it won't get used every day. A bit of weekend fun is what I need.

Now that does look cool,was it produced same time as the tzr250?

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 18:07
Now that does look cool,was it produced same time as the tzr250?

Yeah. It was. Mega hard to come by though. Spares only from Japan.

Here's a Japanese guy pratting around on one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZT0dg22ivI

Looks fun!

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 18:19
Yeah. It was. Mega hard to come by though. Spares only from Japan.

Here's a Japanese guy pratting around on one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZT0dg22ivI

Looks fun!

It does, there was a TZR250 reversed cylinder,what ever that meant,ooh! I tried a mate's rg250, did about 2 miles,hurt big time

Justjon
11-06-2016, 18:35
If I sell one of the cars, maybe an SV1000S. Always fancied one.

How about a Tuono?
Pic of mine from a couple of years ago..

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/micared/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/micared/media/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg.html)

Fitted a Gabro chip and a Mivv can and must say it was the best fun ever. Crazy torque and even crazier stopping power, still brings a tear to my eye that i sold it :(
I will buy another one at some point.

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 18:42
Too big for me, as are the Ducatis and quite a few Jap bikes. I'm short and like to get feet on the deck.

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 18:47
It does, there was a TZR250 reversed cylinder,what ever that meant,ooh! I tried but a mate's rg250, did about 2 miles,hurt big time

Jap race rep 250s and RS 250 Aprillias are painful to ride. I did a 600 mile, two stage trip on a Yam SZR 660 (TZR frame) some years ago and that nearly crippled me.

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 20:13
How about a Tuono?
Pic of mine from a couple of years ago..

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/micared/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/micared/media/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg.html)

Fitted a Gabro chip and a Mivv can and must say it was the best fun ever. Crazy torque and even crazier stopping power, still brings a tear to my eye that i sold it :(
I will buy another one at some point.

The zx9 I would love, the Apriia too mad for me

Pieoftheday
11-06-2016, 20:15
How about a Tuono?
Pic of mine from a couple of years ago..

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/micared/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/micared/media/IMG_3251_zps0izqlqlv.jpg.html)

Fitted a Gabro chip and a Mivv can and must say it was the best fun ever. Crazy torque and even crazier stopping power, still brings a tear to my eye that i sold it :(
I will buy another one at some point.

Is that your zx9? It's gorgeous

Justjon
11-06-2016, 20:49
It was until a very kind lady decided to reverse over it and nearly me at a petrol station whilst i was filling up. I managed to jump off before she destroyed it :(
Crazy thing is that she tried to blame me for everything, despite the CCTV showing otherwise :mental:
I spent so many hours polishing those wheels :steam:
These days I'm slumming it with this ZX10R C1H. A bike smaller than most 600's but fettled with a power commander it deserves its rep as bike for the insane :stalks:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/micared/FullSizeRender_zpspkjnqptk.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/micared/media/FullSizeRender_zpspkjnqptk.jpg.html)

:D

walpurgis
11-06-2016, 21:54
I like that in black. Looks compact too. Might fit me.

Pieoftheday
12-06-2016, 08:53
It was until a very kind lady decided to reverse over it and nearly me at a petrol station whilst i was filling up. I managed to jump off before she destroyed it :(
Crazy thing is that she tried to blame me for everything, despite the CCTV showing otherwise :mental:
I spent so many hours polishing those wheels :steam:
These days I'm slumming it with this ZX10R C1H. A bike smaller than most 600's but fettled with a power commander it deserves its rep as bike for the insane :stalks:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/micared/FullSizeRender_zpspkjnqptk.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/micared/media/FullSizeRender_zpspkjnqptk.jpg.html)

:D

It looks fast stood still:)