TONEARMS

[johnsteer]

I am looking at another tonearm and at the moment i have a rega modded by origami.Of the arms i am considering one is the audiomods series 5,the other is a technoarm and finally a sme m2.I know the sme is more money but just want to get some advice many thanks john

[RobbieGong]

Your deck ?

[johnsteer]

Oops did'nt think of that sorry it's a michell gyro

[Virtual-Symmetry]

You'll probably see more Rega'300' & SME 'V'/'IV' on Gyro's than anything else.

[Gazjam]

Hi John,
Technoarms a good shout with a Gyro, have that exact same combination myself.

Next step, look to an Audio Note Arm One as an upgrade to the Technoarm, even better if you get Johnnie at Audio Origami to rewire it with his Ikeda silver wire.
Heard a few accounts from sources I trust...thats that's an SME V beater.

[johnsteer]

Thanks for the input,i am going to look at an audio note to see what thats like

[Ammonite Audio]

Thanks for the input,i am going to look at an audio note to see what thats like

For a Rega-fit arm, that's about as good as it gets (I have an Arm3 II).

[Oldpinkman]

Hi John,

Heard a few accounts from sources I trust...thats that's an SME V beater.

I'm not sure that's a very high bar personally.

[DiveDeepDog]

I recently held an arm bakeoff, the Audionote Arm one was very disappointing, sounding tizzy with cymbols. It was bettered by AO modded RB250.

The best of the day was Audiomods V, closely followed by Roksan Tabriz (Cardas J7 rewire), I suspect the biggest difference between AM and Tabriz is in the wiring (Silver vs Copper)

We had AT OC9 mk2 on all the arms, on Acoustic Sig deck.

[Gazjam]

I'm not sure that's a very high bar personally.


Ah well. :)

[Gazjam]

Good info.
Possibly need the silver rewire for the One?


I recently held an arm bakeoff, the Audionote Arm one was very disappointing, sounding tizzy with cymbols. It was bettered by AO modded RB250.

The best of the day was Audiomods V, closely followed by Roksan Tabriz (Cardas J7 rewire), I suspect the biggest difference between AM and Tabriz is in the wiring (Silver vs Copper)

We had AT OC9 mk2 on all the arms, on Acoustic Sig deck.

[Ammonite Audio]

Was that the original tweaked Rega Arm One, or the current product? Tizzy is the last characteristic that I'd ascribe to the new Arm One.


I recently held an arm bakeoff, the Audionote Arm one was very disappointing, sounding tizzy with cymbols. It was bettered by AO modded RB250.

The best of the day was Audiomods V, closely followed by Roksan Tabriz (Cardas J7 rewire), I suspect the biggest difference between AM and Tabriz is in the wiring (Silver vs Copper)

We had AT OC9 mk2 on all the arms, on Acoustic Sig deck.

[DiveDeepDog]

The AN was the new One, had to try it myself to see what the fuss was about, but moved it on quickly.
Tizzy is a generalization, compared to other arms I have (to me & 2 others that heard it) the top wasn't quite right, it may be highlighting something with my AT carts, but its the only arm that did it.

I know its an uncommon opinion, but my ears ;-)

Sounded remarkably like the Helius Scorpio
https://c6.staticflickr.com/2/1475/25019418949_e45ea88e3b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E7T4Ae)IMG_2459 (https://flic.kr/p/E7T4Ae) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr



I've heard Arm 2 and 3's, but not at home so can't really comment on AN wiring. I've got a couple of silver wired arms (Audiomods and Artemiz) and they have a brighter balance than copper, not something I'd want with the AN?

[Yomanze]

Good info.
Possibly need the silver rewire for the One?
Or maybe go to the original designer of this style arm. ;)

Audio Note are more than heavily influenced by Helius / Geoffrey Owens, they totally lifted the design of the Orion 4 for their "SOGON" arm with their new arm being a heavy derivative of the Helius Scorpio 3 / Logic Datum S.

I would get a silver wired Helius Scorpio 4 instead.

In my personal opinion, just like this whole post, I have no time for a company that so blatantly steals other people's designs.

However, you can't deny that they have some great designers and original thinking too.

[hifi_dave]

Did they "steal" it or is it made by Helius ?

[Yomanze]

Did they "steal" it or is it made by Helius ?
Nothing to do with Helius.

[johnsteer]

I was told the nottingham analogue ace space was an arm worth considering

[hifi_dave]

Definitely.

[DiveDeepDog]

I was told the nottingham analogue ace space was an arm worth considering

Aren't these Linn geometry?

Nima will fit if you want a Unipivot, although I moved mine on in favour of Tabriz's.

[Andy831]

Love the Warship Avatar Andre.

Sorry a bit off topic. :)

[oldius]

Nottingham make great arms. The Ace Anna I had was simply superb.

At that price I would go for an Audiomods I think. I would rather have a used SME IV though than the AN arms without any hesitation.

[Gazjam]

An SME on a Gyro...would love a V on mine.
Supposed to be some real synergy going on there, though Ive heard some say the V can be a bit mechanical sounding?
Maybe not on a Michell?

[danilo]

Tripped over this DIY tonearm.
Fascinating info actually..
Well worth a read. However it IS a bit long.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/13372-diy-schroeder-tonearm.html

[KONDO]

An SME on a Gyro...would love a V on mine.
Supposed to be some real synergy going on there, though Ive heard some say the V can be a bit mechanical sounding?
Maybe not on a Michell?hi,lovely deck,have you considered origin live,use one myself,yours charlie

[Ali Tait]

He's just bought a V Charlie. :-)

[KONDO]

He's just bought a V Charlie. :-)

Hi,noticed after my reply,I'm sure he will be more than pleased,looks superb,yours charlie

[martinjohn308]

Over my 30 years in hi fi I've had SME, Hadcock, Grace, Ittok and finally for the last 10 years an ARO which is utterly sublime.

If you can find one I promise you you won't regret it.

Regards,

Martin