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popped into Sainsbury's for a few things on my way home from work and a bit shocked to see they are selling some vinyl. Only about 12 titles which is a bit odd and difficult to see how it's worthwhile. Adele 25, Hunky Dory, Ziggy Stardust, led Zep 2, Rumours and a few others I can't remember. Hoping there might be a couple sold off very cheap at some point, I don't have Hunky Dory.
Vinyl in Sainsbury's. The world gets stranger with every passing day.
Maybe they are giving it a go to see how it does? We could end up with a whole proper record departments in the supermarkets.
But 'Led Zep 2' - can't let the kids hear that, it will ruin them for all the new stuff. ;)
they sold some very plastic looking turntables at Christmas which probably won't help with creating a market.
Interesting, but I suspect it'll only be available in a small amount of selected stores. It was the same a while back with Tesco. I went down to the huge 'Extra' store here in Wrexham, saw no such LPs, and asked at customer service. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about... :rolleyes:
I suspect it'll be the same story here in Sainsbury's... However, I shall find out and report back.
Marco.
Full list and branches that stock (unhelpfully not in alphabetical order) -
http://www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/media/latest-stories/2016/0318-sainsburys-to-stock-vinyl-records-as-formats-popularity-soars/
(led Zep 2?)
Vinyl in Sainsbury's. The world gets stranger with every passing day.
Maybe they are giving it a go to see how it does? We could end up with a whole proper record departments in the supermarkets.
But 'Led Zep 2' - can't let the kids hear that, it will ruin them for all the new stuff...
Ah, cheers, Roy :)
Stoke's on the list, Martin! ;)
For my nearest branch, I'd have to go to Nantwich or the Wirral...
Marco.
Livvy is on list, so not far away
Full list and branches that stock (unhelpfully not in alphabetical order) -
http://www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/media/latest-stories/2016/0318-sainsburys-to-stock-vinyl-records-as-formats-popularity-soars/
(led Zep 2?)
might be going mad, got 2 and 4, really thought it was 2 will have to check. Didn't see Led Zep or Nevermind both of which would be tempting as I don't have them - they are not showing Hunky Dory which was definitely there (unless I have really lost it) so I might not be going mad. If it is Led Zep 2 it is the only one I noticed on 180g
Already got the one's I'd want. Maybe a fresh copy of Sgt. Pepper's?
Got a nice copy of that somewhere. Or had. Gets difficult to keep track when is not organised
Stratmangler
25-03-2016, 10:27
Thanks for the heads up :)
trio leo
25-03-2016, 11:34
It's nice Sainsbury's are doing this, it keeps the Rif Raf out of Waitrose. :)
well I'm not going mad they are selling Led Zep 2. The records are selling, must have been 5 copies each of Hunky Dory, Adele 25 and Specials yesterday evening all gone. Nevermind and Legend were not available yesterday but have price labels so must have gone before.
Great, thanks Sean, haven't got Led Zep 2 on vinyl
, I don't have Hunky Dory.
Hunky Dory is an absolute 'must have' IMO.
yes I used to borrow it off my brother a lot when we were kids. I wasn't expecting the records to sell so quickly and was hoping they might have to sell them off cheap at some point.
anyone with nectar points double up is end of month ie £20 becomes £40 in entertainment
We could end up with a whole proper record departments in the supermarkets.
Record department. Surely that's incorrect . . . . a Vinyl department isn't it? :lol:
Audio Al
26-03-2016, 05:05
Anyone purchased any yet ? Whats the quality like , I could be after a copy of Amy Winehouse :)
Wakefield Turntables
26-03-2016, 08:13
Slightly off topic but the HMV in Huddersfield has re-opened and is stocking VINYL. :yay:
Anybody else think that list of titles seems a strange mix.
Pink Moon is one of the finest records ever made IMHO but Nick Drake was never very popular back in the day and to be honest I would have thought that he was not on the radar of most people except a few aging hippies like me and maybe a few "audiophiles" who heard him during their "tune dem".
I can understand Bowie being on the list particularly with his recent death and the media coverage but if the intention is to appeal to the mass market to bring vinyl back into the public eye then Nick Drake is not an artist I would have chosen to spearhead that campaign.
Just saying................
dantheman91
26-03-2016, 08:28
Anyone purchased any yet ? Whats the quality like , I could be after a copy of Amy Winehouse :)
Picked up my copy yesterday plays fine and not a poor quality pressing recommended :) decent price too
Anybody else think that list of titles seems a strange mix.
Pink Moon is one of the finest records ever made IMHO but Nick Drake was never very popular back in the day and to be honest I would have thought that he was not on the radar of most people except a few aging hippies like me and maybe a few "audiophiles" who heard him during their "tune dem".
I can understand Bowie being on the list particularly with his recent death and the media coverage but if the intention is to appeal to the mass market to bring vinyl back into the public eye then Nick Drake is not an artist I would have chosen to spearhead that campaign.
Just saying................
Probably did their homework and picked records that record buyers would buy. A lot of aging hippies getting back into vinyl or already in it. Its one I would buy myself.
Probably did their homework and picked records that record buyers would buy. A lot of aging hippies getting back into vinyl or already in it. Its one I would buy myself.
Original presses of Nick Drake albums sell for big money on eBay. Probably due to a combination of the the scarcity of the albums themselves and his music finding a new audience. As Grant suggests the buyers in Sainsbury's have done their homework.
Nick Drake's music is quite often used in the background of documentaries, and is cited as an influence by many contemporary artists. I suspect its audience goes way beyond ageing hippies and audiophiles.
BTH K10A
28-03-2016, 15:57
Quality of the vinyl Sainsburys is selling is very good
They source them from these guys http://thesoundofvinyl.com
Spectral Morn
28-03-2016, 16:26
I wouldn't buy any of these records from any of the big supermarkets, but only from independent sellers. Supermarkets don't need the money smaller specialist retailers do, and our support.
BTH K10A
28-03-2016, 17:11
I wouldn't buy any of these records from any of the big supermarkets, but only from independent sellers. Supermarkets don't need the money smaller specialist retailers do, and our support.
I did not realise that vinyl sales were the preserve of the independents only and if so why are there not any near to where I live? I probably would support a specialist over one of the major supermarket chains in there was a shop local to me and the prices were not vastly different but and after a number of issues with poor quality pressings and poor customer service I will not never buy mail order any more so if it has to be Sainsburys and they give good service then so be it.
Spectral Morn
28-03-2016, 17:24
I did not realise that vinyl sales were the preserve of the independents only and if so why are there not any near to where I live? I probably would support a specialist over one of the major supermarket chains in there was a shop local to me and the prices were not vastly different but and after a number of issues with poor quality pressings and poor customer service I will not never buy mail order any more so if it has to be Sainsburys and they give good service then so be it.
Certainly poor service does not beget further patronage but I would not buy from a trend jumping on supermarket ever over a specialist music retailer. And by the way a bad experience with a few online music retailers - or one - does not in my view equate to them all being bad, flawed, shallow thinking that in my view. My closest specialist is 10 miles away, and a trip by train (I don't own a car) to get there, I make the journey and buy music there for the most part, but odd ball rare collectibles I will buy from market place sellers on Amazon (not Amazon themselves) and off Ebay and specialists where I find them selling what I want.
It was the big boys originally jumping on the CD band wagon that damaged specialist music sellers, next it was news agent then the book seller - decimating the high street. Supermakets have sucked the marrow out of specialist sellers, grocers, butchers and the like and put many out of business. That's probably why you don't have a specialist seller near you, my bet there once was one - maybe quiet awhile ago. The small town I lived most of my life in had a specialist music shop - a cinema too once - but changes in buying trends, big boys muscling out smaller specialists killed it.
I am not a big fan of buying anything but basics from supermarkets, meat, veg etc better bought from independents that give a damn about quality. But as in all things you pays your money and makes your choice.
BTH K10A
28-03-2016, 18:14
Whilst the supermarkets have had an impact on the high street, places like Woolworths always sold records. OK they were not a supermarket but the impact was just the same. The final nail in the coffin of the high street has been the internet and it could be argued that patronage of online retailers be they specialist of multiples is eroding that central hub of our communities, the high street. Extortionate rates and rents don't help either.
Decent high streets are few and far between nowadays and you have to look in places like Deal which is full of independents and is fortunate to have a small music store http://www.smugglersrecords.com Unfortunately though places like Deal are few and far between
I says something for the state of our high streets that a small town on the east cost of Kent is recognised in the national press http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/reinvent-the-high-street/10547216/Reinventing-the-high-street-Deal-wins-high-street-award.html
Yes there may be many good online vinyl retailers out there but in the absence of a local vinyl retailer I'd rather buy from a local supermarket than repeat my online experience.
A lot of things killed the high st. Rates were probably the biggest initial slapdown. Most shops in my high st went because the rates got ridiculously high, and unsustainable, even for the bigger shops. Supermarkets took advantage of this to an extent and gave high st shops another kick. This started in the 70's and picked up speed as time went on. Bookies, pubs, carry outs, and charity shops are pretty much all we have in our town of over 20k.
As my dad said a few years b4 he died, the councils got greedy and kicked themselves into touch. I might add the small shops didnt help themselves as they didnt want big competition coming in, stating it would take all their trade, which was rubbish. bringing in some big name shops would have increased trade for all. Think there is only one original shop left now(a butchers)
Decent high streets are few and far between nowadays and you have to look in places like Deal which is full of independents and is fortunate to have a small music store http://www.smugglersrecords.com Unfortunately though places like Deal are few and far between
I says something for the state of our high streets that a small town on the east cost of Kent is recognised in the national press http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/reinvent-the-high-street/10547216/Reinventing-the-high-street-Deal-wins-high-street-award.html
Deal's a gorgeous little place. Been there many a time en-route to France, via Dover, where we've wanted to stop over before joining the ferry to Calais :)
However, the high street thing you're referring to, Andy, is more a problem in the south of the UK, than in the north, as things tend to be much more built up and urbanised the further south you go, and so with that comes the eroding of traditional values (in many forms).
I can assure you that there are plenty of quaint little places, in the style of Deal, here in North Wales and Cheshire, including plenty of towns with thriving high streets and independent record shops! ;)
Marco.
Spectral Morn
28-03-2016, 18:41
Whilst the supermarkets have had an impact on the high street, places like Woolworths always sold records. OK they were not a supermarket but the impact was just the same. The final nail in the coffin of the high street has been the internet and it could be argued that patronage of online retailers be they specialist of multiples is eroding that central hub of our communities, the high street. Extortionate rates and rents don't help either.
Decent high streets are few and far between nowadays and you have to look in places like Deal which is full of independents and is fortunate to have a small music store http://www.smugglersrecords.com Unfortunately though places like Deal are few and far between
I says something for the state of our high streets that a small town on the east cost of Kent is recognised in the national press http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/reinvent-the-high-street/10547216/Reinventing-the-high-street-Deal-wins-high-street-award.html
Yes there may be many good online vinyl retailers out there but in the absence of a local vinyl retailer I'd rather buy from a local supermarket than repeat my online experience.
Co Op stocked vinyl too, as did big department stores. I get where you are coming from though. I would say that the final nail in anything is down to us, we makes our decisions and then have to live with them. The death of the high street, and independent shops is down to all of us, our collective and individual choices.
legb4rsk
28-03-2016, 19:43
Taken from the Sainsburys site 'To support the launch, a Crosley Cruiser Turntable will also be available in store for £80.'
One step forward two steps back.........................not much better than the original Dansette .
Taken from the Sainsburys site 'To support the launch, a Crosley Cruiser Turntable will also be available in store for £80.'
One step forward two steps back.........................not much better than the original Dansette .
I like this review of that TT...excuse the lie of a name....
Pros:
* It's cute! The cosmetic design is really quite charming and I can see why people are attracted to it.
* It weighs nothing. Seriously. The dust cover on my Technics turntable weighs more than this thing.
* It's completely plug-and-play. Easy to understand why newcomers are less intimidated by Crosleys than by more sophisticated turntables. You literally just plug it into a power outlet and start playing. There is absolutely no setup required.
Cons:
* Sound output is pathetically weak. Even with the volume turned all the way up, the Cruiser's two speakers aren't as loud as my cell phone's tiny single speaker.
* The quality of the sound is also substantially worse than my cell phone. Stereo 33s sound like mono 78s.
* This record player will destroy your records. How? Keep reading.
Out of curiosity, I dug out my digital stylus force gauge to find out if the tracking force is really as heavy as some reviewers have claimed. Yes, folks, it is. So heavy, in fact, that it wouldn't even register on my gauge (which maxes out at 5 grams).
(For those of you who are new to all this: anything over 3 grams is likely to cause premature wear and damage to your records, ESPECIALLY if the stylus is of poor quality -- which is the case with the Crosley Cruiser stylus.)
The sapphire stylus, attached to a crude plastic cantilever, is enormous. I can't imagine that it would be much safer than playing your records with a rusty nail. It might be okay for playing some trashed old 78s but it'll chew up your 33s and 45s quickly.
PLEASE, folks: if you are spending 20 or 30 bucks each on brand new records, do not play them on this record player. You might as well just toss your money in the garbage.
There are a handful of Crosleys that come with a gentle and respectable Audio-Technica 3600 cartridge with diamond stylus, such as the Collegiate, the Advance, and the Spinnerette. It would be safe to consider those a MAJOR upgrade over the crude cartridge/stylus used on the Cruiser and most other Crosleys. (Also, the tracking force on the Collegiate/Spinnerette/Advance can be adjusted, but I can't find any practical way to do this on the Cruiser or its similar siblings.)
There is an "upgrade" stylus you can buy for the Cruiser, with a diamond stylus and metal cantilever... but that'll run you about $20. If you're already planning to spend $80-$100 on a Cruiser, plus $20 for a better stylus, you might as well just buy the Collegiate instead, thereby getting the much better AT-3600 included in the price AND the ability to adjust the tracking force.
Better yet, spend an extra $70 on a nice hand-built Made-in-USA U-Turn Orbit... or, if you don't mind pre-owned stuff, find yourself a good vintage turntable, easily obtained for less than the price of a Crosley.
I realize this doesn't answer the question of what to buy if you want something portable and plug-and-play. If those are essential requirements, I would grudgingly recommend the Crosley Collegiate. Its quality and reliability aren't much better than the Cruiser, but at least it's less likely to destroy your records.
Why do they all have names like 1950s era American cars?
What Hi-Fi measured the tracking on the Crosley at over 7g. Interestingly looking on Amazon the Project Elemental, admittedly 3 times the price of the Crosley, has 10 reviews. The Crosley has 752 reviews. It's not just the supermarkets though, the local independent close to where I work, Rise Records, sells the Crosley.
legb4rsk
29-03-2016, 00:57
What Hi-Fi measured the tracking on the Crosley at over 7g. Interestingly looking on Amazon the Project Elemental, admittedly 3 times the price of the Crosley, has 10 reviews. The Crosley has 752 reviews. It's not just the supermarkets though, the local independent close to where I work, Rise Records, sells the Crosley.
That's not good.Any independent record shop should really know better.
Popped in to 'Slipped Discs' (my local specialist?) in Billericay on Saturday (Dickie wasn't about before you ask). Vinyl was top dollar & not in any sort of order (some of it was in boxes on the floor) & CDs you could get from Zoverstocks for a quid were a tenner a pop. In all honesty if they can't be bothered presenting their product properly & pricing their CDs reasonably I can't be bothered supporting them by buying stuff there.
Guys, just a heads up if you can get there before the offer ends TOMORROW....
Until tomorrow (offer started on 30th March), for every £5 worth of points accrued on your Sainsbury's Nectar card, you get a £10 voucher, which you can redeem against certain products, one of which are the LPs that they're selling at the moment. Multiples of £5 are applicable.
Therefore, for example, if you select two LPs that would normally cost £15 each (therefore a total of £30), and have, say, £15 worth of points on your Nectar card, then that can be exchanged for a £30 voucher (double-up), which you can use to buy said LPs, thereby effectively getting them for 'free' (or £15 worth of Nectar points)!! :eek:
See here for full details: https://livewellforless.sainsburys.co.uk/nectar-double-up-frequently-asked-questions/
We were in the Irvine branch today and I picked up Nick Drake's Pink Moon and The Beatles Abbey Road. So get thee along to your local branch of Sainsbury's (listed for selling LPs) and bag a veritable bargain! :cool:
Marco.
My local HMV has now started to sell 180g vinyl. Had a quick look, all claim to be remastered, the sleeves seem to be thicker than original, and depending on the title, sell for £15 - £25.
Spectral Morn
04-04-2016, 19:11
That's not good.Any independent record shop should really know better.
You would think. I applied for a job at Head in Belfast, replying to an advertisement, no reply nothing. They sell Crosely crap and Rega and some Project gear. I guess I am too old. They decided to employ teenagers, mostly girls who haven't a clue.
I included info in the application re my specialist experience, setting up turntables etc - silence was my reward. I still shop there, but the quality of advice I have heard re record care and turntables, poor, very poor.
Was in the town so went into Sainsbury's to see the vinyl revival for myself.
Nothing in there, even though 'Stoke' is on the list of stores
I think they must have meant one of the other Sainsbury's. Oh well.
That's weird... Is there more than one branch in Stoke?
Did you also check with staff, in case you missed it? In the Irvine branch Snapper and I went to, the promotional display unit (filled with LPs) was right at the entrance to the store - not where you'd have expected it to be, next to the DVDs, etc....
Marco.
I think the confusion results from the oddness of Stoke
There is Stoke-On-Trent which comprises the Six Towns of Hanley, Burslem, Fenton, Longton, Tunstall and Stoke Upon Trent.
My Sainsbury's is in Stoke Upon Trent which is not the same as Stoke-On-Trent although it is part of it.
The Sainsbury's that must have the vinyl is in Etruria which, although not one of the six towns, is also in Stoke-On-Trent, but is some distance away from Stoke Upon Trent.
This often confuses visitors who arrive in Stoke Upon Trent thinking it is the 'city centre' and wonder how a city of 250 thousand people copes with a just a handful of betting and charity shops and a Bargain Buys; when the city centre is, of course, actually in Hanley.
Jeez... Confused? Well, tune in again next week! :mental: :D
Marco.
It's a great place to live if you are interested in Georgian and Victorian industrial architecture. Especially now the idiots have finally stopped pulling it all down.
surv1v0r
11-04-2016, 22:11
According to Sainsbury’s head of music and books “We don’t see this as a novelty gifting fad but a complimentary part of our existing music offer with a long term future in our stores. Vinyl is definitely experiencing a revival with demand growing stronger year on year. It is our aim to make the vinyl experience easy and pleasurable for our customers who are ready to re-engage with a format that resonates with them on an emotional level.”
I have noticed that the LP display in my local branch has emptied out fairly rapidly and has been restocked but only with the same limited range.
surv1v0r
19-05-2016, 23:12
Vinyl sales grew for the eighth consecutive year in 2015 with more than 2m LPs sold in the UK, the most since at least 1994 when Wet Wet Wet and Bon Jovi were among the year’s biggest artists.
The BPI, the record labels’ association that promotes British music, said the surge in popularity of British music was not being matched by proceeds from advertising-funded streaming websites such as YouTube. (LINK (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/20/vinyl-sales-bigger-than-youtube-for-british-artists))Who buys all this vinyl? Do many of the purchasers actually own a turntable? Are they just after the "image"?
I have to say it, that figure of two million LPs sold does seem bloody odd :scratch:
I've noticed that the range of vinyl in my local Sainsburys has been steadily expanding although still not massive. They slip in the odd Sainsburys exclusive now and then which tend to be limited edition colour vinyl. Just picked up Small Faces Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake on red vinyl for £20 and Zombies Odessey & Oracle Half Speed Master on orange vinyl for £18. Can't play them at the moment though as turntable packed away for house move.
I've noticed that the range of vinyl in my local Sainsburys has been steadily expanding although still not massive. They slip in the odd Sainsburys exclusive now and then which tend to be limited edition colour vinyl. Just picked up Small Faces Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake on red vinyl for £20 and Zombies Odessey & Oracle Half Master on orange vinyl for £18. Can't play them at the moment though as turntable packed away for house move.
Vinyl should be BLACK! No ifs or buts - BLACK, BLACK, BLACK! :lol:
Vinyl should be BLACK! No ifs or buts - BLACK, BLACK, BLACK! :lol:
Got a few coloured ones but I prefer clear actually
Got a few coloured ones but I prefer clear actually
Must be a bugger to cue a particular track.
I don't as a rule but I will check next time
Apparently the next couple of Sainsburys exclusives are a Hank Marvin compilation and a synth pop compilation out on Friday.23640
keiron99
05-06-2018, 18:49
I've noticed that the range of vinyl in my local Sainsburys has been steadily expanding although still not massive. They slip in the odd Sainsburys exclusive now and then which tend to be limited edition colour vinyl. Just picked up Small Faces Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake on red vinyl for £20 and Zombies Odessey & Oracle Half Speed Master on orange vinyl for £18. Can't play them at the moment though as turntable packed away for house move.
Interestingly, quite the opposite has happened in my local Sainsbury's (Cheadle, Stockport). It's reduced down to a little cardboard stand, jammed in wherever there's a bit of spare space, with about a dozen titles.
Interestingly, quite the opposite has happened in my local Sainsbury's (Cheadle, Stockport). It's reduced down to a little cardboard stand, jammed in wherever there's a bit of spare space, with about a dozen titles.
There is a cardboard stand in my local Sainsburys, which is how it started, but they also now have some shelves above the cd's as well as a small shelf with maybe 8 titles near the store entrance. Probably only 30-40 or so titles but better than the 10-12 or so when they started a couple of years ago.
Pigmy Pony
05-06-2018, 19:23
I agree that vinyl ought to be black - I have a few coloured and picture discs and they all seem to have more surface noise.
I didn't know Nick Drake made music. I remember him from the sixties, quite funny - he couldn't say Mr Pewe, used to say Mr Poo. Always cracked me up.
I think you’ve got your Drakes confused.
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Pigmy Pony
06-06-2018, 21:32
Blimey, Mick Hucknall's let himself go a bit!
Blimey, Mick Hucknall's let himself go a bit!
:lol:
Minstrel SE
08-06-2018, 16:00
A selection of 15 random, flavour of the week albums geared towards the Crosley cruiser purchasers is not a worthy vinyl buying experience.
If thats what Sainsburys think of a vinyl revival there cant be much of a revival going on
they have a fathers day cardboard stall of records in morrisons.. just the usual stuff. not especially cheap either
The Sainsbury by me has never had any vinyl. Even the CD and DVD section has now been reduced in size so they could fit the in-store Argos branch in.
they have a fathers day cardboard stall of records in morrisons.. just the usual stuff. not especially cheap either
What always amuses me with these things is how they determine what age the respective fathers will be, in terms of predicting the type of music offered for sale?
For example, my dad's 85, so he'd be more interested in Nat King Cole, than the Eagles, and at the other end of the scale, if your dad's 25, he's more going to be interested in something like the Arctic Monkeys...
So how do they decide which age demographic of fathers to pitch to?:hmm:
Marco.
What always amuses me with these things is how they determine what age the respective fathers will be, in terms of predicting the type of music offered for sale?
For example, my dad's 85, so he'd be more interested in Nat King Cole, than the Eagles, and at the other end of the scale, if your dad's 25, he's more going to be interested in something like the Arctic Monkeys...
So how do they decide which age demographic of fathers to pitch to?:hmm:
Marco.
THINK THEY ARE PROBABLY SELLING TO THE BUYERS...IE KIDS, AND THUS PICK NAMES THEY WILL RECOGNISE. sorry for caps:doh:
A selection of 15 random, flavour of the week albums geared towards the Crosley cruiser purchasers is not a worthy vinyl buying experience.
If thats what Sainsburys think of a vinyl revival there cant be much of a revival going on
I doubt there is any sentiment behind Sainsburys selling vinyl, it will all be about shifting stuff quickly and making some money and maybe getting a few new punters through the door. I doubt there will ever be a big selection. I think I read they believe they are now the biggest high street (well bricks and mortar at least) retailer of vinyl. I do think it interesting though that they are doing some exclusives, not necessarily just coloured vinyl,it's not my cup of tea but I think their vinyl release of Kylie Minogue's Light years may be the only vinyl release of that album.
THINK THEY ARE PROBABLY SELLING TO THE BUYERS...IE KIDS, AND THUS PICK NAMES THEY WILL RECOGNISE. sorry for caps:doh:
Yes, but it's not only "kids" who have fathers, if you get me. And it's not the "kids" who have the most money to spend on vinyl either;)
I'm just amused/interested in how they determine the age group of the fathers being targeted, and what criteria is used.....
Now, if my dad had a turntable I might be tempted to buy him a couple of Nat King Cole or Frank Sinatra albums, but not what's being currently sold, supposedly of interest to the fathers chosen.
Do you see my point? It's all rather age discriminatory:)
Marco.
yeah, but as kids i didnt mean really young, just folk like, say, my kids. 30's/40's.they will have heard of pink floyd, elo, bowie etc and say.. dad will like that..thats what i was meaning
Ah ok, I get that, but it's still discriminatory against parents from my age demographic. That's why I've never bought anything there, other than of course for me!
Marco.
Castroil
09-06-2018, 14:24
I noticed Vinyl records in Asda too
Morley, West Yorkshire
A section of them - I think they had Led Zep 2 and "Bridge over troubled"
Pigmy Pony
12-06-2018, 16:51
The TV adverts for Father's Day Records/ CD's always assume that dads only like Bit Pop type stuff (Oasis, Dodgy, Supergrass etc.) or compilations of "Rock Classics" featuring Free, Steppenwolf, Meatloaf etc.
Personally I'd rather be trapped in a "Dutch Oven" after Mrs. P had a meal exclusively of cruciferous vegetables than have to endure that done-to-death pap. :(
I know my girls would not make that assumption. They will ask me what I would like. Favourite choices at the mo would be Jorja Smith or Lake Street Dive. :)
Pete The Cat
13-06-2018, 07:18
The "record store" unit in my local Sainsbury's has drifted from being front of house to a dark corner of the shop. It has only ever seemed to contain the same dozen or so LPs, with the noble exception of the two compilations curated by Bob Stanley of Saint Etienne. Last autumn I read that those Own Label records were to be the first in a series but six months down the line things seems to have gone quiet.
If music is reduced to being commoditised as a choice between 12 "classic albums" for a Father's Day gift then that's rather missing the point. It's a bit different to baked beans or bog rolls and my family know that I love music, so they'd never dream of buying me a packet of it from a supermarket. Top of my current wish list is Orange Goblin's 2004 LP, which I suspect isn't on Sainsburys' radar...
Pete
orange goblins eh... think you ight have to go to the fag counter for that :D
orange goblins eh... think you ight have to go to the fag counter for that :D
Or the in-store chemist.
The "record store" unit in my local Sainsbury's has drifted from being front of house to a dark corner of the shop. It has only ever seemed to contain the same dozen or so LPs, with the noble exception of the two compilations curated by Bob Stanley of Saint Etienne. Last autumn I read that those Own Label records were to be the first in a series but six months down the line things seems to have gone quiet.
If music is reduced to being commoditised as a choice between 12 "classic albums" for a Father's Day gift then that's rather missing the point. It's a bit different to baked beans or bog rolls and my family know that I love music, so they'd never dream of buying me a packet of it from a supermarket. Top of my current wish list is Orange Goblin's 2004 LP, which I suspect isn't on Sainsburys' radar...
Pete
The two latest Bob Stanley compilations were released last week, a Hank Marvin compilation and a synth pop compilation. They had them in my local Sainsburys but I'm not interested in them.
The two latest Bob Stanley compilations were released last week, a Hank Marvin compilation and a synth pop compilation. They had them in my local Sainsburys but I'm not interested in them.
Bob Stanley? I'm thinking the stamp bloke but I guess it isn't him. Hank Marvin, lovely bloke but never saw the point of him or The Shadows. Synth pop....no thanks. Not keen on the organic variety much so deffo don't want the ersatz version.
Bob Stanley? I'm thinking the stamp bloke but I guess it isn't him. Hank Marvin, lovely bloke but nevehr saw the point of him or The Shadows. Synth pop....no thanks. Not keen on the organic variety much so deffo don't want the ersatz version.
he was a music journo as well as a player. think he wrote about something else too but cant remember
Bob Stanley? I'm thinking the stamp bloke but I guess it isn't him. Hank Marvin, lovely bloke but never saw the point of him or The Shadows. Synth pop....no thanks. Not keen on the organic variety much so deffo don't want the ersatz version.
The Shadows were the first pop group I followed. I loved Hank Marvin's guitar sound, and still do.
The Shadows were the first pop group I followed. I loved Hank Marvin's guitar sound, and still do.
My mum was quite keen on them. I remember them being on the telly one night and her insisting we all watch them. After all of her build up when they came on we were like 'What? Is this it?'
That would be about 1977.
The phrase. That's Hank Marvin didn't come about by accident. Hank and cliff Richard were common when I was young
I know it's used meaning starving but was also used as rank
From Wikipedia: (ok, you can’t take Wikipedia as gospel, but even so...)
Marvin influenced many British rock guitarists, including Andy Summers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Summers), Syd Barrett (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syd_Barrett), George Harrison (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison),[12] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-Hank_Marvin:_Everyone_Has_To_Move_On-12)Eric Clapton (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton),[12] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-Hank_Marvin:_Everyone_Has_To_Move_On-12)David Gilmour (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gilmour),[12] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-Hank_Marvin:_Everyone_Has_To_Move_On-12)Brian May (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May),[13] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-13)Mark Knopfler (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Knopfler),[12] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-Hank_Marvin:_Everyone_Has_To_Move_On-12)[14] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-14)Peter Frampton (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Frampton),[15] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-15)Steve Howe (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Howe_(guitarist)),[16] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-16)Roy Wood (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Wood),[17] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-17)Tony Iommi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Iommi),[18] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-18)Pete Townshend (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend),[19] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-19)Ritchie Blackmore (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_Blackmore) and Jeff Beck (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Beck).[20] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marvin#cite_note-20). Australian guitar virtuoso Tommy Emmanuel (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Emmanuel) has also paid hommage to Marvin on various recordings.
No idea who Tommy Emmanuel is, but the rest of them are vaguely familiar!
My mum was quite keen on them. I remember them being on the telly one night and her insisting we all watch them. After all of her build up when they came on we were like 'What? Is this it?'
That would be about 1977.
I'm going back to 1963 - 'Frightened City' was the very first single I bought (at 6/3 (= 32.5p)! Might still have it somewhere.
I'm going back to 1963 - 'Frightened City' was the very first single I bought (at 6/3 (= 32.5p)! Might still have it somewhere.
The only music I really like pre 1967 is some jazz and some big band stuff. And Sinatra. The rest is either too tame or too 'of its time' for me.
The only music I really like pre 1967 is some jazz and some big band stuff. And Sinatra. The rest is either too tame or too 'of its time' for me.
Yes - but I was 13 at the time. Loathed big band jazz and still do.
Vast tracts of my record collection is 'of it's time' as of the '60s, '70s, '80s and '90s. And I suppose the same could be said of the American
Negro Blues of the '30s and '40s.
The only music I really like pre 1967 is some jazz and some big band stuff. And Sinatra. The rest is either too tame or too 'of its time' for me.
1967 does seem to be a bit of a turning point for me too but it did get me thinking about the best pre 1967 albums I like, only just scraping in but Pet Sounds and John Mayall's Beano album spring to mind. Probably lots more if I give it a bit more thought.
1967 does seem to be a bit of a turning point for me too but it did get me thinking about the best pre 1967 albums I like, only just scraping in but Pet Sounds and John Mayall's Beano album spring to mind. Probably lots more if I give it a bit more thought.
Revolver is one of the more obvious ones I've missed, again 66 so only scraping in.
What always amuses me with these things is how they determine what age the respective fathers will be, in terms of predicting the type of music offered for sale?
For example, my dad's 85, so he'd be more interested in Nat King Cole, than the Eagles, and at the other end of the scale, if your dad's 25, he's more going to be interested in something like the Arctic Monkeys...
So how do they decide which age demographic of fathers to pitch to?:hmm:
Marco.
The whole concept of age stereotyping frankly terrifies me. I have an awful image of myself in thirty years time aged 96 sitting in a decrepit group of drooling geriatric baby-boomers whilst some eager millennial plays the Bay City Rollers and David Cassidy to us in the fond hope that they’ll dredge up happy memories of our lost youth and reconnect us to reality.
Revolver is one of the more obvious ones I've missed, again 66 so only scraping in.
What about 'Rubber Soul' and some of the early Stones?
What about 'Rubber Soul' and some of the early Stones?
yes, there's probably loads if I think about it.
walpurgis
13-06-2018, 21:05
1967 is a watershed time. I doubt it's coincidence that musicians had started experimenting with LSD around then. Nobody would have understood psychedelic music before then. Just as many now don't anymore.
Not much bothered about the 'Stones pre 'Beggar's Banquet'.
Not much bothered about the Beatles at all. Not got any of their records.
The only music I really like pre 1967 is some jazz and some big band stuff. And Sinatra. The rest is either too tame or too 'of its time' for me.
You really should 'educate yourself' and get into classical music. In that respect, 1967 is considerably modern!;)
Also, sonically, some of the best recordings ever produced on vinyl, were done in the late 50s - jazz music in particular.
Marco.
Not much bothered about the 'Stones pre 'Beggar's Banquet'.
Not much bothered about the Beatles at all. Not got any of their records.
What about The Doors?
Marco.
The whole concept of age stereotyping frankly terrifies me. I have an awful image of myself in thirty years time aged 96 sitting in a decrepit group of drooling geriatric baby-boomers whilst some eager millennial plays the Bay City Rollers and David Cassidy to us in the fond hope that they’ll dredge up happy memories of our lost youth and reconnect us to reality.
:lolsign:
Marco.
What about The Doors?
Marco.
First album is 1967
You really should 'educate yourself' and get into classical music. In that respect, 1967 is considerably modern!;)
Also, sonically, some of the best recordings ever produced on vinyl, were done in the late 50s - jazz music in particular.
Marco.
Can't get into classical. I've tried. I did mention that jazz, Sinatra and big band were my exceptions to the 1967 thing.
Can't get into classical.
Why? I'm curious. Up until 10 years ago, I was the same:)
Marco.
First album is 1967
Pink Floyd, Mothers of Invention (Zappa), Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, The Who? Any of that pre-1967 music float ya boat?:)
Marco.
This is also a fab album, from 1966:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/y1qrbO.jpg
:cool:
Marco.
Bigman80
13-06-2018, 22:49
This is also a fab album, from 1966:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/y1qrbO.jpg
:cool:
Marco.Agreed.
Pink Floyd, Mothers of Invention (Zappa), Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, The Who? Any of that pre-1967 music float ya boat?:)
Marco.
They certainly float mine! I have stuff by all of them.
Pink Floyd, Mothers of Invention (Zappa), Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, The Who? Any of that pre-1967 music float ya boat?:)
Marco.
I do have some pre '67 Marvin Gaye. Only Who album I like is 'Who's Next' which is what, 1970? I have got Blonde On Blonde but I'm not that keen on it. Zappa first album was 1966 but I don't have it.
Listening to Classical just makes me think of adverts and old cartoons. Can't help it.
I do have the Bluesbreakers album with Eric Clapton. Not a bad record that but still sounds dated.
Interesting... "Dated" in what way, as opposed to, say, how other blues or jazz albums from 1967 (or after) aren't?:)
Marco.
walpurgis
14-06-2018, 07:29
I should flog my collection of late sixties and seventies LP's. I'd probably get enough money to retire on....................Hang on, I am retired! :doh:
Interesting... "Dated" in what way, as opposed to, say, how other blues or jazz albums from 1967 (or after) aren't?:)
Marco.
In that it sounds like an 'early' record whereas jazz and (delta) blues sounds timeless, or outside of time.
Pete The Cat
14-06-2018, 07:45
Blimey, it's been a busy 24 hours on this thread.
The two latest Bob Stanley compilations were released last week, a Hank Marvin compilation and a synth pop compilation. They had them in my local Sainsburys but I'm not interested in them.
Thanks for the update, I looked about 3 weeks ago so must've just missed these. Not a great synthpop fan myself, but any album with B-Movie's "Nowhere Girl" is worth a thought. They're already asking £35 on eBay !
he was a music journo as well as a player. think he wrote about something else too but cant remember
Yep, he was in St. Etienne (the band, not the losing 1976 European Cup finalists).
Pete
In that it sounds like an 'early' record whereas jazz and (delta) blues sounds timeless, or outside of time.
Fair enough; it just sounds 'down and dirty'/groovy to me.
Marco.
Blimey, it's been a busy 24 hours on this thread.
Thanks for the update, I looked about 3 weeks ago so must've just missed these. Not a great synthpop fan myself, but any album with B-Movie's "Nowhere Girl" is worth a thought. They're already asking £35 on eBay !
Yep, he was in St. Etienne (the band, not the losing 1976 European Cup finalists).
Pete
There were plenty in my local yesterday if you want one posted.
Interestingly (to me at least) if you look at the uk album chart update vinyl sales (before I get flamed for mentioning the charts I am not a follower of the charts but it was mentioned by someone on twitter) the two small faces albums that have exclusives in Sainsburys are currently 6 and 7 and the Zombies no 14 so Sainsburys appear to be shifting a reasonable number. That said with so many stores they probably only need to shift a few in each where they are sold.
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/vinyl-albums-chart/
Minstrel SE
14-06-2018, 09:07
Ah B Movie...I downloaded Remembrance Day as a guilty guilty pleasure but it is actually pretty naff :) "in the forest in the snow all those many years ago" I hope they didnt give up the day jobs.
I would like to see new figures for the vinyl revival. Ok even lowering one of Peter Pritchards XLM specials is very pleasant indeed but Im moving the other way in that I dont consider a large vinyl collection to be serious proposition in 2018
I think we have now been spoilt with the digital convenience and (dare I say it) sound. I have a nice dabble with vinyl and will probably finish it nearer a Rega Planar 3 than the new Sondek.
Done the Holidays Shop today, including a visit Tesco.
In the music aisle, in Vinyl, I found 'Nirvana Unplugged', Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon'.
Fleetwood Mac ' Rumours', Jeff Wayne's ' War of the Worlds', there were others as well ranging in price from
£15 - £21.
dave2010
20-12-2018, 19:27
In Dundee HMV recently I noted about 24 feet of racks devoted to LPs. There's only about 2 feet for classical CDs. Mad world - I thought vinyl had died - and the prices of the new ones are higher than the ones I used to buy 30 years ago. There were also some poxy little vinyl turntables.
Mad world - I thought vinyl had died...
Clearly you don't get out much, Dave;)
Marco.
In Dundee HMV recently I noted about 24 feet of racks devoted to LPs. There's only about 2 feet for classical CDs. Mad world - I thought vinyl had died - and the prices of the new ones are higher than the ones I used to buy 30 years ago. There were also some poxy little vinyl turntables.
I'm sure it will be - if it is played on those overpriced "poxy little vinyl turntables". :D
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