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Rare Bird
31-10-2009, 12:29
I wasnt aware that you could post too much on a forum! Seems you can & get bugged for it.
Grand wazoo (sarcast king) seems to call it using as a messenger..so from now dudes i'll move on to another place & hey don't post too much in one day it's not good.
Que?
Me, I hardly post at all....... :lol:
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 13:32
i was quietly impressed by andres posting figures! i think he might have even taken alex's record!
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 13:35
andre - Total Posts: 532 - Posts Per Day: 12.46
thats comitment
He just did 0.22 posts/per day more than me. I'm not impressed. :lol:
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 17:48
I wasnt aware that you could post too much on a forum! Seems you can & get bugged for it.
Grand wazoo (sarcast king) seems to call it using as a messenger..so from now dudes i'll move on to another place & hey don't post too much in one day it's not good.
Andre
I don't know what this is about, but frankly you are more than welcome here. Post as much as you like. Your recent contributions to AOS have been IMHO very good and interesting and really nice to see.
Keep up the good work.
Edit Okay I now know what we are talking about here...I think. I feel there has been a wee bit of an over reaction. I for one like some ELP, but not all. I love the first album and bits of Trilogy, Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery etc, but frankly imho some of the music/tracks are poor Jeremy Bender and the like, I really don't like those type of songs ELP do every so often. Chris GW has been down the ELP road and does not like them (reading between the lines) Andre seems to love them. Both opinions are valid as with all types of music and life in general we love some things and dislike others. It would be boring if we all liked the same thing. I hate football and sport in general..I don't see the point in it...thats me, I have been accused of having no soul...oh well. Look lets not ever get personal over likes and dislikes. Its enough to say I don't like that etc or I do...lets just move on and agree to disagree. Andre you are still very welcome post away...as is Chris also.
Regards D S D L
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 18:01
Yeah ... Not to mention the fact that if you actually do wrong, you will be warned and then eventually, if you keep doin wrong, banned by the fascists at the top ... Erm *cough* sorry I meant mods and admin :)
I too have no clue what's been going down but I would concidor any other comments as banter or at worst well meaning advice !(??)
We should add to the forum's Ethos that listening to at least one ELP album per day is mandatory. Except for those liking football. :lol:
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 18:22
We should add to the forum's Ethos that listening to at least one ELP album per day is mandatory. Except for those liking football. :lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Regards D S D L
Never did like ELP much. The way The Nice trampled over 'Hang On To A Dream' was a dreadful warning of the horrors to come.
Rare Bird
31-10-2009, 19:52
Okay I now know what we are talking about here...I think. I feel there has been a wee bit of an over reaction. I for one like some ELP, but not all. I love the first album and bits of Trilogy, Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery etc, but frankly imho some of the music/tracks are poor Jeremy Bender and the like, I really don't like those type of songs ELP do every so often. Chris GW has been down the ELP road and does not like them (reading between the lines) Andre seems to love them. Both opinions are valid as with all types of music and life in general we love some things and dislike others. It would be boring if we all liked the same thing. I hate football and sport in general..I don't see the point in it...thats me, I have been accused of having no soul...oh well. Look lets not ever get personal over likes and dislikes. Its enough to say I don't like that etc or I do...lets just move on and agree to disagree. Andre you are still very welcome post away...as is Chris also.
Regards D S D L
It's not the fact that he dislikes ELP it's the comment:
''Those are wise words from a boy who bought a lot of ELP albums, then grew up.''
What that then ELP is for kids or something! I think Chris wants to look back at what he listerns to & take that back..
For the record yes the rubbish like ''Geremy Bender'', ''Are You Ready Eddy'', ''Sheriff'' etc are just fillers not to be taken seriously even i think they have no place withing the albums.Another thing i wish people would stop doing is tarring the early material with the later material brush. As far as i'm concerned ELP were over after the two year 'Brain Salad Surgery' world tour..Atlantic records destroyed this band.The material on the Works albums are pure & simply desperation..''Fanfare for the comman man'' is just pure shit.
Hey fella's, please don't do this...
I got to know Trilogy first, not long after it came out in 1970 (ok, I was THIRTEEN years old at the time.....). It's a great album and the first track and especially the title one's lyrics mean something to me now. Brain Salad Surgery may be a bit OTT in places (including the pre TD sequencer at the very end), but the later 1996 CD mastering seems to make sense of it all. I could never understand tarkus, which seems rushed to me.....
OK, so to some, this may be "pop prog," but this band amongst others are part of my spiritual and musical growth and still very enjoyable indeed.........
Hey Andre, 'Sherrif and Benny The Bouncer may well be fillers, but they still have the task of lightening the load amongst some serious and emotionally heavy tracks...........
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:07
guys, dont let the one thing that has brought us together push you apart ;)
Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends.............................................. .........
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 20:28
It's not the fact that he dislikes ELP it's the comment:
''Those are wise words from a boy who bought a lot of ELP albums, then grew up.''
What that then ELP is for kids or something! I think Chris wants to look back at what he listerns to & take that back..
For the record yes the rubbish like ''Geremy Bender'', ''Are You Ready Eddy'', ''Sheriff'' etc are just fillers not to be taken seriously even i think they have no place withing the albums.Another thing i wish people would stop doing is tarring the early material with the later material brush. As far as i'm concerned ELP were over after the two year 'Brain Salad Surgery' world tour..Atlantic records destroyed this band.The material on the Works albums are pure & simply desperation..''Fanfare for the comman man'' is just pure shit.
Hi Andre
I can see how what was said can be taken as an insult, you may even say that it is one, but is it worth falling out over one possibly tongue in cheek comment ? I don't know only Chris can comment on that. The problem with typing things in to the either of the net is that sometimes a throw away comment gets taken the wrong way or gets taken the right way but should not have been typed.
I like you would feel a bit annoyed if someone typed that about the music and bands I like, but to be honest I would not now days allow it to wind me up that much. Years ago a friend used to call Hawkwind...Falcon Farts that angered me a lot, but do you know what its his loss. Just as Chris not liking ELP is his loss....guess what I am not a huge fan of the Beatles, The Stones and Frank Zappa (like some of it, but not all of it), thats my loss perhaps, but I just don't get the first two, and frankly Zappa wrote stuff imho just to shock and offend a lot of the time...real pity as he is/was a fantastic guitarist and musician/composer...but his lyrics...often are crude school yard rubbish...imho. Chris and I wont fall out over that, he loves Zappa and I don't..though I respect his talent.
Implying someone should grow up is a bit below the belt especially as I don't see why it should have been said...it was so maybe you should have a chat with Chris via PM and try and sort it out.
There are things in life worth and requiring a fight but not imho music.
Regards D S D L
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:37
neils definately right!
you shouldnt leave this place ... you looked to be enjoying your self!
my mate dan (dan jennings on here) is the most passionate person i know about music and i love winding him up telling him some of the music he likes is shit.. but i dont mean it!
Someone slagged off White Light/White Heat in here t'other day, which just goes to show.
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:41
i knowpeople who think jeff buckley is shit ... i think they are tossers and obviously deaf!!
(one of them is one of my closest mates)
Exactly! If people are only allowed to say positive things about music, how can we possibly discuss Celine Dion?
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:47
or most of the people on x factor (im watching it now) so far there have been 4-5 performers... all but one completely ass
i dont even know howthe judges dont just laugh them off the stage
this one chap lloyd just sung that "i kissed a girl and i liked it" crap... he sounded likehe was doing kareoke.... utter utter apalling sheite
i like the welsh girl though ... tiny little thing she is but blimey can she belt it out!
The Grand Wazoo
31-10-2009, 20:49
To put the record straight:
I do like ELP but in small doses.
I tried to convey that in a light hearted way.
Dan,
Personally, I'd stick where you're at. Those two are enough ELP for anyone!
Andre responded to that in what was quite frankly, a personally insulting manner.
Wise words from a man with a great music taste track record
No Andre. Those are wise words from a boy who bought a lot of ELP albums, then grew up.
I responded by trying to point out that I don't restrict my taste in music to one type & time frame. I broadened my taste quite some years ago. Andre appears not to have done. I don't have a problem with this, but I was attacked.
I tried as diplomatically as I could given the circumstances to ask him not to bring personal attacks into discussions
You, my friend, might do well to learn the difference between the message & the messenger - if you don't agree with my opinion, then criticise my opinion, not me.
I'd like to think that at least some people here see me as fair minded and recognise that I choose my words carefully. For Christ's sake, I defended Shippy's right to express his opinion!!
At no time did I seek to offend anyone. Nor did I seek to imply that anyone was posting too much (how you get that from what I wrote is beyond me).
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:50
that essex girl makes me laugh too .. when she talks she sounds daft, then she sings! it not the best but its still impresive concidering!
anyway.,.. sorry hijacked a bit...as you were
I often think what a wise choice I made when I ditched the TV.
comment:
''Those are wise words from a boy who bought a lot of ELP albums, then grew up.''
What that then (sic) ELP is for kids or something!
Well, actually, yes! I'm an ELP fan up to as stated, 'Brain Salad Surgery' but in all seriousness, how can anyone take their vocals seriously? Totally shallow juvenile pretention! Yep, the music is fun and comes over with a sense of authority, but the lyrics are childlike.
I think Chris wants to look back at what he listerns (sic) to & take that back..
Hmmmm, that seems a pretty childish statement in itself. I've not heard that sort of terminology since I was in the playground. Certainly this is a first for me on an adult forum.
For the record yes the rubbish like ''Geremy Bender'', ''Are You Ready Eddy'', ''Sheriff'' etc are just fillers not to be taken seriously even i think they have no place withing the albums.
Again, Hmmmm, I rather like these tracks not because they have any significant musical merit but because I like their quirky nature. Good tongue in cheek light hearted rock 'n' roll entertainment. Maybe a bit of maturity is required to enjoy them simply for what they are.
''Fanfare for the comman (sic) man'' is just pure shit.
Hmmm for a thid time. While you're slagging that piece off, consider it was composed in 1942 by Aaron Copeland, one of America's most highly regarded composers. Keith Emerson has just done his usual rock 'n' roll take on a well loved and regarded classical piece of music. Seems ok to me.
I don't think anything Greg Lake, Carl Palmer and Keith Emerson produced was supposed to be taken seriously apart possibly Lake's rather shallow christmas song which is anti-establishment, anti-Christmas but gets trotted out year after year because no-one actually listens to the words. They are all good fun musicians who have some clever understanding of how to make a living in the music business. I'm not sure about the others but Keith graduated from the Royal School of Music.
'Lighten up' seems to be applicable here.
Just my take on it all. I'm off now for a serious Tarkus session. Hell, Armadillo World War One tanks :eek:
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 20:54
or most of the people on x factor (im watching it now) so far there have been 4-5 performers... all but one completely ass
i dont even know howthe judges dont just laugh them off the stage
this one chap lloyd just sung that "i kissed a girl and i liked it" crap... he sounded likehe was doing kareoke.... utter utter apalling sheite
i like the welsh girl though ... tiny little thing she is but blimey can she belt it out!
Yes and the first guy murdered one of my fave Journey songs....if Steve Perry was dead he would be spinning in his coffin.
I agree Hamish X factor this time round is very poor/up the left, and as usual the great British public have not got a clue. Last week two of the best got voted into the bottom two. John and Edward who are so crap are doing well.....what a JOKE.
Daryl is imho the most talented vocalist since Leona but hes unlikely to win....but should. However tonight his version of the theme from Armageddon was his worst performance vocal so far imho; that he has done.
The "I kissed a Girl" song only makes sense for the guy who sang it if he were gay...the original song is about a womans first kiss with a woman. Hate the song load of crap....and not because of its subject matter (I like Wendy and Lisa by the way)...its just crap imho.
Regards D S D L
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 20:54
I often think what a wise choice I made when I ditched the TV.
id dich mine... but i would have to dich hannah too .... hmmm.... nah.. shes just about worth it
id dich mine... but i would have to dich hannah too .... hmmm.... nah.. shes just about worth it
She can watch stuff on the iPlayer like Caroline does. Plus it saves you enough money for a Beresford DAC!
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 21:01
thats the problem though... she doesnt watchit for programs... its just bloody on!!
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 21:04
To put the record straight:
I do like ELP but in small doses.
I tried to convey that in a light hearted way.
Andre responded to that in what was quite frankly, a personally insulting manner.
I responded by trying to point out that I don't restrict my taste in music to one type & time frame. I broadened my taste quite some years ago. Andre appears not to have done. I don't have a problem with this, but I was attacked.
I tried as diplomatically as I could given the circumstances to ask him not to bring personal attacks into discussions
I'd like to think that at least some people here see me as fair minded and recognise that I choose my words carefully. For Christ's sake, I defended Shippy's right to express his opinion!!
At no time did I seek to offend anyone. Nor did I seek to imply that anyone was posting too much (how you get that from what I wrote is beyond me).
Hi Chris
I must confess that the dynamic of this *issue* escapes me a bit. I think its all got blown out of all perspective. Andre is maybe a wee bit sensitive about his only liking Prog and how others view that....not an issue imho though I would hold the view that it is a wee bit limiting but each to their own. If I have an issue with Andre it would be that he limits his Prog to music before 1973/74. I think he is missing out on alot, but its a free country and each to their own.
Yes Chris I do think you are a fair minded.
Regards D S D L
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 21:09
Yes and the first guy murdered one of my fave Journey songs....if Steve Perry was dead he would be spinning in his coffin.
I agree Hamish X factor this time round is very poor/up the left, and as usual the great British public have not got a clue. Last week two of the best got voted into the bottom two. John and Edward who are so crap are doing well.....what a JOKE.
Daryl is imho the most talented vocalist since Leona but hes unlikely to win....but should. However tonight his version of the theme from Armageddon was his worst performance vocal so far imho; that he has done.
The "I kissed a Girl" song only makes sense for the guy who sang it if he were gay...the original song is about a womans first kiss with a woman. Hate the song load of crap....and not because of its subject matter (I like Wendy and Lisa by the way)...its just crap imho.
Regards D S D L
i cant belive someone twittered than danyl is more hated than hitler! im not suprised he couldnt sing this week.. poor guy! how could anyone think saying something like that is sencible or relevant... what a bloody moron
(i think i might well have just been sucked into the xfactor marketing strategy for danyl... i think i might well be suposed to be feeling sorry for him... i dont really care though ... that really is a really horrible thing to say)
aquapiranha
31-10-2009, 21:19
and as usual the great British public have not got a clue
Regards D S D L
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The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 21:21
OH MY GOD IS ANYONE WATCHING THIS???
they can even sing "we will rock you" in time/tune with each other ... its like one fucking note!
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 21:22
thats john and edward btw... for anyone not watching the god awefull shite
aquapiranha
31-10-2009, 21:25
why not put the TV in the street for the bin men and listen to some proper music?
been a long time since I got rid of mine and now couldn't care a hoot about 'sleb culture' better things to do!
The Vinyl Adventure
31-10-2009, 21:28
why not put the TV in the street for the bin men and listen to some proper music?
been a long time since I got rid of mine and now couldn't care a hoot about 'sleb culture' better things to do!
i do like my tele for the odd film and decent tv prog though
it shouldnt be forgoten that im also into my films and surround sound etc
maybe i should just get a decent monitor!?!
nah hannah would kill me!!
aquapiranha
31-10-2009, 21:31
I do watch movies, just on the PC! I have a 22" monitor which isn't that big compared to what is available these days. I hear the people in work talking about xfactor this and other talent show and soaps, and I think, is that it? is that their lives? not for me, no sireee!
I can see why people watch TV, but believe me, do without it for 12 months and you will be asking yourself why you didn't do it sooner.
The Grand Wazoo
31-10-2009, 21:34
I must confess that the dynamic of this *issue* escapes me a bit. I think its all got blown out of all perspective.
Andre is maybe a wee bit sensitive about his only liking Prog and how others view that....
I think Andre maybe spends a lot of time defending his taste in music & sees all comments that differ from his point of view in that regard as personal.
Andre, I have repeatedly said on this forum that I don't like genres & see all music as just music - I prefer some & care less for some.
However, I never ever judge anyone by their taste in music - other people here will confirm that.
I did not intend for you to interpret what I wrote as the implication that ELP is not 'grown up music' or that you are in some way childish - I meant to infer that my taste has matured to encompass many different types & styles of music. I apologise for giving you that impression.
Yes Chris I do think you are a fair minded.
Thank you Neil
The Grand Wazoo
31-10-2009, 21:36
Sorry guys, but can you take your TV chat elsewhere for a bit? I'm keen for this business with Andre to be cleared up.
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 21:44
I think Andre maybe spends a lot of time defending his taste in music & sees all comments that differ from his point of view in that regard as personal.
Andre, I have repeatedly said on this forum that I don't like genres & see all music as just music - I prefer some & care less for some.
However, I never ever judge anyone by their taste in music - other people here will confirm that.
I did not intend for you to interpret what I wrote as the implication that ELP is not 'grown up music' or that you are in some way childish - I meant to infer that my taste has matured to encompass many different types & styles of music. I apologise for giving you that impression.
Thank you Neil
Thank you Chris
Regards D S D L
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 21:46
Not help full Greg you've made your view clear. Lets leave the rest of this thread clear for Andre and Chris.
To that end I will delete any further comments not from Chris or Andre.
Regards D S D L
The Grand Wazoo
31-10-2009, 21:47
I meant to infer that my taste has matured to encompass many different types & styles of music.
And that is a comment about me & not you, or anyone else.
I own almost all of the ELP albums you listed and more, sorry mate, but you overreacted & misunderstood me. You made an attack on me & I defended myself.
I don't insult people on here - that's been shown before too even despite extreme provocation & I think if you do insult someone in a discussion, your argument immediately loses it's validity and you lose.
I have already apologised - I think you should do the same.
Spectral Morn
31-10-2009, 22:52
Hi Andre
Can you continue your conversation with Chris (The Grand Wazoo) via PM please.
I think this best (hope you can understand) as some comments from others might make this situation potentially worse. I could be wrong but I don't want to take the chance...so I am closing the thread.
Regards D S D L
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