My Bracelet

[southall-1998]

This bracelet of mines was a gift from my Dad. I've had this bracelet since the beginning of 2004. It holds many good memories and some sentimental value. Pics shown below.

I wonder how many carat gold this bracelet has? It certainly has a fair bit of weight to it. But I haven't weighed it!

There are some stamped markings, but I can't make out or identify what they are?

If there are some members with knowledge of jewellery. Please give me a rough guess.

S.


http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030353_zps8pzgbyq5.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030353_zps8pzgbyq5.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030354_zps6wk7qo4p.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030354_zps6wk7qo4p.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030355_zpssppcdnef.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030355_zpssppcdnef.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030356_zpsoww0yyqj.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030356_zpsoww0yyqj.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030360_zpsv8ldzjjf.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030360_zpsv8ldzjjf.jpg.html)

[Audio Al]

Take it into a Jewellers for ID and insurance valuation :)

[struth]

Does that say 375 in the cartouche...if it does then its British 9 ct gold

[CageyH]

30 seconds on google took me to this page http://hubpages.com/style/Gold-and-Hallmarks-How-to-Tell-if-Gold-is-Real-or-Fake which would suggest it's 9 carat gold if I have read the numbers correctly. It's a bit difficult on my iPhone.

[Scooby]

If you can pop it on some food scales, it will give a better start point for value. You should be able to find 9ct gold prices per gramme on a number of sites.

[southall-1998]

Does that say 375 in the cartouche...if it does then its British 9 ct gold


Yes, I'm guessing that it is 375.

S.

[southall-1998]

I'm not saying they are exactly the same. But this bracelet on ebay looks a bit similar to mines- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLID-HEAVY-9CARAT-9CT-375-YELLOW-GOLD-CURB-BRACELET-9-INCHES-LADIES-MENS-/252281266660?hash=item3abd22a1e4:g:jpsAAOSwKtlWs3D N

S.

[jollyfix]

I am sure there are loads of jewellers in Torquay who could give you a valuation Shane.

[goraman]

9K is more often then not, made from dental gold.
The jewelers get a reasonable price on it melt it down and make jewelry, it is pretty hard stuff and for something like a bracelet will take a beating.
For a loose fitting bracelet that drags over a desk all day it makes perfect sense. Anything softer would show daily ware and tear after a couple years.

The 23k stuff Indian gold is 96.5 gold .5% silver and 3% copper. That is why Indian gold is both very gold/red in color but also bright.
When the purity becomes that high the only way to make it hard enough to survive being broken is to use copper as when it is mixed with gold it makes it harder by changing the grain structure of the gold to longer grains the silver even though .5% seems small keeps the copper from dulling it's bling, as silver is the brightest metal on earth.
I like 18k to 23k red gold but my favorite is 23k as it just pops even in low light.

The older 8-9k dental gold uses nickle, manganese, copper, silver.
The newer 11K to 12K dental gold uses copper, titanium,silver and some times nickle.

In few cases dental gold reaches 14k this is mostly cosmetic caps.

Looking more closely I don't think your bracelet is dental gold but closer to Russian Rose gold as the copper content is very high.
Copper, zinc,silver,palladium in that order but I have no way of knowing how much of each.
The heavy weight is from the palladium.
The fact is it is just to hard from your pictures to see the exact color, to tell what it is alloyed with.
Can you take a picture in soft white light on a white sheet of heavy copy paper and post it?

I would just ware it and enjoy it thinking of your Dad often.

[Ninanina]

Shane I just blew one of your pictures up and it definitely states 375 (it's in the diamond shape on it's side) so that makes it 9 ct gold

I think scrap 9 ct gold is fetching about £10 per gram at the moment

[southall-1998]

Thanks, Bev.

S.

[southall-1998]

9K is more often then not, made from dental gold.
The jewelers get a reasonable price on it melt it down and make jewelry, it is pretty hard stuff and for something like a bracelet will take a beating.
For a loose fitting bracelet that drags over a desk all day it makes perfect sense. Anything softer would show daily ware and tear after a couple years.

The 23k stuff Indian gold is 96.5 gold .5% silver and 3% copper. That is why Indian gold is both very gold/red in color but also bright.
When the purity becomes that high the only way to make it hard enough to survive being broken is to use copper as when it is mixed with gold it makes it harder by changing the grain structure of the gold to longer grains the silver even though .5% seems small keeps the copper from dulling it's bling, as silver is the brightest metal on earth.
I like 18k to 23k red gold but my favorite is 23k as it just pops even in low light.

The older 8-9k dental gold uses nickle, manganese, copper, silver.
The newer 11K to 12K dental gold uses copper, titanium,silver and some times nickle.

In few cases dental gold reaches 14k this is mostly cosmetic caps.

Looking more closely I don't think your bracelet is dental gold but closer to Russian Rose gold as the copper content is very high.
Copper, zinc,silver,palladium in that order but I have no way of knowing how much of each.
The heavy weight is from the palladium.
The fact is it is just to hard from your pictures to see the exact color, to tell what it is alloyed with.
Can you take a picture in soft white light on a white sheet of heavy copy paper and post it?

I would just ware it and enjoy it thinking of your Dad often.

Thanks.

I will keep this bracelet forever!

Give me a few days, and I'll try and take some better pics.

S.

[southall-1998]

Here are some slightly better quality pics.

S.


http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030382_zpsa59bmfkt.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030382_zpsa59bmfkt.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030383_zpsvjemds6v.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030383_zpsvjemds6v.jpg.html)

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/TDL-STUDIO/P1030386_zps7wk02ftf.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/user/TDL-STUDIO/media/P1030386_zps7wk02ftf.jpg.html)

[struth]

It's a nice bracelelet Shane...

[southall-1998]

It sure is, Grant. I will die with this bracelet!

S.

[goraman]

9K is 37.5 % gold ,from the picture to be honest the sheen is not brilliant like gold that has a lot of silver, it sheen's more like palladium and nickle and copper.
It is not possible to be sure but it is not Russian gold. It looks a lot like dental gold, the kind they used to make bridges and fillings from.

It has always amazed me how metals mixed to create something with such specialized property.
For example there are a thousand different formulas for making steel,and then heat treating can very to air cooling,quenching in water or oils to change the hardness.
People have been perfecting metallurgy since we came out of the stone age and still we come up with new formulas all the time.

In a newer world where composites like graphite, carbon fiber, fiber glass and plastics are all the rage we still haven't found a direct replacement for all of the quality's of steel.
It just can not be replaced by technology.

And no one has found a way to produce gold.

[CageyH]

I would not leave it on the window sill Shane. :eyebrows:
It looks nice and chunky, and is probably expensive to replace.

[struth]

9K is 37.5 % gold ,from the picture to be honest the sheen is not brilliant like gold that has a lot of silver, it sheen's more like palladium and nickle and copper.
It is not possible to be sure but it is not Russian gold. It looks a lot like dental gold, the kind they used to make bridges and fillings from.

It has always amazed me how metals mixed to create something with such specialized property.
For example there are a thousand different formulas for making steel,and then heat treating can very to air cooling,quenching in water or oils to change the hardness.
People have been perfecting metallurgy since we came out of the stone age and still we come up with new formulas all the time.

In a newer world where composites like graphite, carbon fiber, fiber glass and plastics are all the rage we still haven't found a direct replacement for all of the quality's of steel.
It just can not be replaced by technology.

And no one has found a way to produce gold.

Ive learned how to produce purest green:D

Looks plenty shiny to me

[southall-1998]

I really couldn't care too arse about the % of gold my bracelet has. The quality is decent and substantial enough for me.

Sentimental value still comes first.

S.