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Ninanina
05-02-2016, 23:29
For the last few days I've had a problem with my system making a crackle through the speakers
I have done the following to try to isolate it:
Removed the Theta Timebase Linque Conditioner from the system with no difference to the crackle
Removed the Dac from the system with no difference to the crackle
Changed the CD from the Pioneer 717 to the PD-S505 Precision with no difference to the crackle
This only left the mains supply, the amp, the speakers or the interconnects at fault
I next changed the output valves to my spare set of EL84's and I this got rid of the crackle.... However I then swapped back to the original EL84's and again there is now no crackle... now I'm confused as I cannot reproduce the crackle :scratch:
walpurgis
05-02-2016, 23:30
Loosely seated valve?
Ninanina
05-02-2016, 23:32
Loosely seated valve?
I thought about that Geoff, but I'm not convinced as when I removed the valves they were all seated nice and tight... odd very odd...
possible poor connections on one of the valves, or maybe a dodgy valve. if it comes back try tapping the valve with a pencil or flick gently with your nail... try each one til you find culprit. could even be a poor base contact
Ali Tait
05-02-2016, 23:33
Aye would guess so.
Ninanina
05-02-2016, 23:33
And some time ago I treated it to some Deoxit
Ninanina
05-02-2016, 23:43
I am currently running a little Trends T amp that I just purchased from Jeff (rubber duck) and it is quite an eye opener... I would consider it about 80% of the Oto... an amazing little rascal.. :eek:
http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/thumb_IMG_0719_1024.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/thumb_IMG_0719_1024.jpg.html)
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 00:40
Any further thoughts on my crackle would be very much appreciated, it's a nightmare that I can't replicate the problem at the moment then I'd know what was causing it... :doh:
Audio Al
06-02-2016, 00:59
Bev
I would suggest a valve amp guru has a look at your amp , not much can hide from a volt / ohms / meter / scope and a valve tester
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 01:04
Bev
I would suggest a valve amp guru has a look at your amp , not much can hide from a volt / ohms / meter / scope and a valve tester
Thanks for the input Al. I was thinking of taking it along to AN which isn't too far from me... I just hope they don't charge too much to take a look at it.. I have no idea what would be a 'reasonable' fee to have it checked out ..
Audio Al
06-02-2016, 01:32
Bev as a alternative you could send it 2 this gent
http://www.ampregen.com/index.html
Graeme is a true gent very honest and has a lifetime of valve experience ,Graeme has repaired a Audio Innovations 500 amp for me , Highly recommended and no BS ;)
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 02:01
Bev as a alternative you could send it 2 this gent
http://www.ampregen.com/index.html
Graeme is a true gent very honest and has a lifetime of valve experience ,Graeme has repaired a Audio Innovations 500 amp for me , Highly recommended and no BS ;)
Thanks Al. Where in the country is he? as I can't find info on his website
Audio Al
06-02-2016, 02:05
Thanks Al. Where in the country is he? as I can't find info on his website
Didcot Oxfordshire
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 02:16
Didcot Oxfordshire
Thanks Al for that...
From experiences; a Failing Cap in the tone stack of the pre / integrated... Often causes crackles.
Also don't discount the Chi Fi gizmo, as these often produce Odd annoyances.
G'luck
Oldpinkman
06-02-2016, 07:47
Any further thoughts on my crackle would be very much appreciated, it's a nightmare that I can't replicate the problem at the moment then I'd know what was causing it... :doh:
Intermittent faults are a nightmare. Wait for it to return before you resume worrying about it. If it is a problem it will come back.
If it doesn't, this is a very short thread, and life is good again :)
Thanks for the input Al. I was thinking of taking it along to AN which isn't too far from me... I just hope they don't charge too much to take a look at it.. I have no idea what would be a 'reasonable' fee to have it checked out ..
Bev, have you seriously considered how difficult life will be with only one arm and one leg!
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 18:55
Bev, have you seriously considered how difficult life will be with only one arm and one leg!
Rob are AN that bad then ? :doh:
Arkless Electronics
06-02-2016, 20:04
Try deoxit in the valve sockets again and plug the valves in and out several times. Very likely to be just this, as Grant and Geoff said.
Ninanina
06-02-2016, 21:17
Try deoxit in the valve sockets again and plug the valves in and out several times. Very likely to be just this, as Grant and Geoff said.
Great thanks Jez I will try that again to see if it does the trick... ;)
spikeyfaz
07-02-2016, 09:20
I am currently running a little Trends T amp that I just purchased from Jeff (rubber duck) and it is quite an eye opener... I would consider it about 80% of the Oto... an amazing little rascal.. :eek:
http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/ninanina2/thumb_IMG_0719_1024.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/ninanina2/media/thumb_IMG_0719_1024.jpg.html)
I'm intrigued about how close you think the little amp compares to the big amp! I've been looking at getting an Oto to power my Tannoy Devons, but the cost savings on the little amp are attractive to me.
Mike
Ninanina
07-02-2016, 22:15
I'm intrigued about how close you think the little amp compares to the big amp! I've been looking at getting an Oto to power my Tannoy Devons, but the cost savings on the little amp are attractive to me.
Mike
Mike... well I would never swap my Oto as I love it to bits
The little Trends is very good indeed though. It's not what it does right more what it doesn't do wrong, if that makes any sense. It has quite a sweet sound to it and is totally non fatiguing, it has absolutely no harshness about it at all. The bass it pretty good too
While I have been impressed with the T amp it doesn't have the 'texture' or the 'insight' to the music that I have become accustomed to with the Oto but I guess you wouldn't expect it to really considering the huge price difference
The only thing I can say is I think you have nothing to loose trying out a good T amp as they are not expensive, however I can also wholeheartedly recommend the Oto :)
spikeyfaz
09-02-2016, 17:27
It's the 'texture' and 'insight' that I'm looking for. Hmm. Think I'll continue to keep my eyes open for a decent valve amp.
Thanks for the insight.
Audio Advent
10-02-2016, 14:28
The only thing I can say is I think you have nothing to loose trying out a good T amp as they are not expensive
Other than loosing it down the back of the sofa so small as it is!
Audio Advent
10-02-2016, 14:30
It's the 'texture' and 'insight' that I'm looking for. Hmm. Think I'll continue to keep my eyes open for a decent valve amp.
Thanks for the insight.
Could be that it's pre-amp section that's lacking - the Trends will just have a cheap pot infront of the amp stage. Could look to find one without that and attach a good active pre-amp to it, or do some DIY to bypass it internally.
Ninanina
19-02-2016, 20:55
Well the crackle is no more... all I had to do was take out the output valves, the EL84's, and replace them back in their sockets and hey presto no further crackle so it must have just been a bad seating of the valves or something, so the Oto is back in and performing as it always has, perfect
I've been using the Trends amp for a few days now and while it is very good indeed it's nice to have the Oto back in the sytem, I still love it to bits.. :D
Ninanina
19-02-2016, 21:18
I am just pleased it wasn't anything seriously wrong with my beloved Oto... phew !
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