View Full Version : Scored a lovely LTD Edition AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell
I'd been after one of these babies for a while, as being made from solid titanium, they are arguably 'the daddy' of all detachable headshells, and I just won a NIB one on ebay, for £105.00:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/G6T8St.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p3G6T8Stj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/gPp4XQ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pagPp4XQj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/XC3O3b.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/paXC3O3bj)
From the web:
The TI15ANV is a headshell machined from pure titanium, with built-in Hanenite damping. Hanenite is a rubber-based damping material with superlative anti-resonance characteristics.
Yum, yum!
These normally retail for silly prices new (around £250), see here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
So, got a bit of a billy bargain :cool:
It'll be interesting hearing what it's like with my DL-103s, compared with the Denon headshells I've got. Full report (with pics) when it arrives :)
Marco.
DarrenHW
17-01-2016, 19:38
You know I'm not a fan of mechanical connections but that's an effing beauty :stalks: I've been lesser seen lately as up to my eye's at the moment, finished work about an hour ago and I've worked every day since 04/01 :wah:. Depends how things go but hoping to be free for 29/01 if we're still on?
Hi mate,
All work and no play, dassa nightmare. Needs must sometimes, though... Yup, sesh at my place on the 29th. Alan (Firebottle) is coming over too, so should be a goody! :)
Technically, of course, the least mechanical connections the better. However, as usual in audio, there are also other considerations (and trade-offs) apart from the most obvious, particularly when it comes to what makes a tonearm optimal for use with low-compliance cartridges ;)
Yeah, the Audio Technica is about as good as high-mass headshells get, and should really make DL-103s sing!
Marco.
Wow! :stalks:
Keep this up Marco, and you'll be able to open the world's first Museum of Japanese Cartridges and Headshells ... in Wrexham :scratch:
Wow! :stalks:
Keep this up Marco, and you'll be able to open the world's first Museum of Japanese Cartridges and Headshells ... in Wrexham :scratch:
Lol! Yes, I've always had a soft spot for these things, and they can make a remarkable difference to the performance of a low-compliance MC. I also like to have all my cartridges, pre-mounted in different vintage headshells (as they don't make 'em now like they used to), and thus ready for use :)
Btw, I had a good listen today to your MF passive preamp, at Ian's place. Very nice indeed! :thumbsup:
Marco.
DarrenHW
17-01-2016, 20:27
Hi mate,
All work and no play, dassa nightmare. Needs must sometimes, though... Yup, sesh at my place on 29th. Alan (Firebottle) is coming over too, so should be a goody! :)
Cool, I'll try and keep it free.
Technically, of course, the least mechanical connections the better. However, as usual in audio, there are also other considerations apart from the most obvious, particularly when it comes to what makes a tonearm optimal for use with low-compliance cartridges ;)
Yeah, the Audio Technica is about as good as a high-mass headshell gets, and should really make DL-103s sing!
Marco.
Either way I'm certainly looking forward to seeing it in the flesh and hearing one of your vintage 103's on the end of it. That's me for now, time for dinner and an early night :zzz:.
Wow! :stalks:
Keep this up Marco, and you'll be able to open the world's first Museum of Japanese Cartridges and Headshells ... in Wrexham :scratch:
I'd go.
Cool, I'll try and keep it free.
Nice one :)
Either way I'm certainly looking forward to seeing it in the flesh and hearing one of your vintage 103's on the end of it.
Yeah, and you've still to hear the fruits of your labour, as it were, in terms of what the wall shelf does! :cool:
Marco.
daytona600
17-01-2016, 21:59
These are still current production marco @ £ 139
Hi Scott,
Interesting... When was AT's 50th anniversary - do you know? :)
Anyway, you're selling them for a damn sight less than Analogue Seduction! See here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
Also check out this ebay ad from a Japanese seller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321275697980?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
£272!! :eek:
Marco.
Spectral Morn
17-01-2016, 22:33
Would have thought your Fidelity Research headshell would be a hard act to follow ? I have an Ikeda version of the same, but the hassle of fitting it, and then the 103 has kept me from trying it out. I have a Mint tractor set up jig and its a hard, long winded process. Very accurate - specific one for the Technics 1200/Jelco 750D - but a pain to do.
Interested to read your opinions, looks like a nice headshell.
Ha - that's interesting you should mention the FR, as I've sold it to Barry! :)
I do like it, but I've gotten used to the ease of use of headshells, pre-aligned with Stevenson geometry (which I use), via the use of drilled holes on the underneath, which I simply select one set, for bang-on alignment, to be arsed now with the faff of having to use an alignment protractor, such as is necessary with the FR and other headshells without pre-drilled holes.
Not sure what you mean by this:
I have an Ikeda version of the same, but the hassle of fitting it, and then the 103 has kept me from trying it out. I have a Mint tractor set up jig and its a hard, long winded process. Very accurate - specific one for the Technics 1200/Jelco 750D - but a pain to do.
What hassle or pain are you referring to? That's why I love detachable headshells - for precisely the reason that they REDUCE hassle! ;)
Marco.
I'd been after one of these babies for a while, as being made from solid titanium, they are arguably 'the daddy' of all detachable headshells, and just won a NOS/NIB one on ebay for £105.00:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/G6T8St.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p3G6T8Stj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/gPp4XQ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pagPp4XQj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/XC3O3b.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/paXC3O3bj)
These normally retail for silly prices new (around £250), see here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
So, got a bit of a bargain! :cool:
It'll be interesting hearing what it's like with my DL-103s, compared with the Denon headshells I've got. Full report when it arrives :)
Marco.
Still a good price for a classy headshell. It should hold its own v most and beat many.
Stratmangler
17-01-2016, 23:49
I'd been after one of these babies for a while, as being made from solid titanium, they are arguably 'the daddy' of all detachable headshells, and just won a NOS/NIB one on ebay for £105.00:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/G6T8St.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p3G6T8Stj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/gPp4XQ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pagPp4XQj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/XC3O3b.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/paXC3O3bj)
These normally retail for silly prices new (around £250), see here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
So, got a bit of a bargain! :cool:
It'll be interesting hearing what it's like with my DL-103s, compared with the Denon headshells I've got. Full report when it arrives :)
Marco.
That looks to be a well made and heavyweight piece of kit.
I do see a potentially serious flaw.
The fixing apertures (holes) have no room for adjustment. It isn't a problem if your tonearm utilises a carriage á la SME, but if this is not the case, are the holes correctly positioned for proper alignment with a DL-301?
Hi Chris,
As usual with headshells like this, the drilled holes supplied correspond with Stevenson geometry, which is perfect (in terms of alignment) if you use a Japanese tonearm, such as a Jelco, or my Ortofon (or a stock Technics arm on an SL-1200/1210).
Normally, there are three sets of pre-drilled holes to chose from, and I always end up using the set nearest the tip of the headshell, such as are included with this Audio Technica, as those provide spot-on alignment. Therefore, I'm confident it'll be just fine :)
Marco.
That looks to be a well made and heavyweight piece of kit.
I do see a potentially serious flaw.
The fixing apertures (holes) have no room for adjustment. It isn't a problem if your tonearm utilises a carriage á la SME, but if this is not the case, are the holes correctly positioned for proper alignment with a DL-301?
There actually is room for adjustment. The screw that adjusts azimuth can also be used to adjust the length.
Stratmangler
18-01-2016, 00:34
There actually is room for adjustment. The screw that adjusts azimuth can also be used to adjust the length.
Looking at the pictures I can see what you're saying.
Cheers :cool:
British high fidelity
18-01-2016, 00:41
I'd been after one of these babies for a while, as being made from solid titanium, they are arguably 'the daddy' of all detachable headshells, and just won a NOS/NIB one on ebay for £105.00:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/G6T8St.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p3G6T8Stj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/gPp4XQ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pagPp4XQj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/XC3O3b.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/paXC3O3bj)
These normally retail for silly prices new (around £250), see here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
So, got a bit of a bargain! :cool:
It'll be interesting hearing what it's like with my DL-103s, compared with the Denon headshells I've got. Full report when it arrives :)
Marco.
Wow that's absolutely stunning, can't wait for your report as to how she sounds, beautiful engineering, very envious
Lol - I don't. Could you explain? :)
Marco.
When you loosen the azimuth screw enough, the cart body will unclamp from the silver piece and can be moved backwards and forwards for length adjustment.
Yeah, I see what you mean now... Neat!
Although, I reckon it'll be spot on (for my arm), as it is out the box. I'll let you know :)
Marco.
Stratmangler
18-01-2016, 00:47
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/XC3O3b.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/paXC3O3bj)
There doesn't appear to be a machined shank to stop the movement of the headshell either way along the fitting.
The headshell appears to be able to be moved closer to or further from the pivot point.
Cheers, Chris. I see that now, as I've just mentioned to Dave. It's a rather clever and effective way of doing the job.
Really looking forward to trying the headshell now :)
Marco.
Wow that's absolutely stunning, can't wait for your report as to how she sounds, beautiful engineering, very envious
Cheers, Deano. I'll certainly let you know. 15g is just spot on too, in terms of mass, for getting DL-103s to 'sing'. I think I'll fit my DL-103C1 onto the AT:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/FH6pt5.jpg
Should be an interesting combo! :)
Marco.
British high fidelity
18-01-2016, 01:03
Cheers, Deano. I'll certainly let you know. 15g is just spot on too, in terms of mass, for getting 103s to sing. I think I'll fit my DL-103C1 onto the AT:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/FH6pt5.jpg
Should be an interesting combo! :)
Marco.
I don't know much about the 103C1 what's the difference between this and the regular 103r & 103LC, sorry for my ignorance
Mainly benefits gained from the improved rigidity of the body-shell, which is made of a special hardened, ceramic fibre-reinforced resin, thus helping suppress vibration.
The other key feature is that the power generation coil is made from the highest-grade copper, referred to by Denon as: "Class 1" LC-OFC. Signal transmission is therefore optimised, thus the sound produced is very clear, detailed and dynamic.
It's a stunning sounding cartridge, and leaves the stock 103, and pretty much every other one for dead. The 'C1' was introduced in 1991. Only the 103GL [arguably the 'ultimate' 103, alongside the 103M] and 103SA can compare. I'm hopeful that it will form an absolutely KILLER combo with the AT headshell :)
Marco.
British high fidelity
18-01-2016, 01:21
Wow do you think these highend denon's would work on a SME series iii
Not without a lot of work! ;)
The (super-low mass) Series III, especially, was designed solely for use with high-compliance cartridges. The best SME arm to use with a DL-103 is either a 3009 (one with non-fixed headshell, which therefore facilitates the fitting of a heavier one), or even better, a 3012.
The more modern Series M2 would also be a good match.
Marco.
British high fidelity
18-01-2016, 02:04
OK thanks for your info, some people recommended the nagoaka mp300 would you agree or what denon's would recommend or grado maybe
daytona600
18-01-2016, 08:01
Hi Scott,
Interesting... When was AT's 50th anniversary - do you know? :)
Anyway, you're selling them for a damn sight less than Analogue Seduction! See here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
Also check out this ebay ad from a Japanese seller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321275697980?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
£272!! :eek:
Marco.
Established in 1962 - so 2012
this headshell was for the older flagship cartridge
The 50th Anniversary limited-edition AT150ANV moving-magnet phono cartridge
Older flagship cartridge?
Is there a newer one now then?
Established in 1962 - so 2012
this headshell was for the older flagship cartridge
The 50th Anniversary limited-edition AT150ANV moving-magnet phono cartridge
Cheers, Scott. Ok, so the product was introduced four years ago, therefore not really "current production". What you mean is that you're selling stock left over from the original limited production run. Not sure how many that would've been? :)
Also, how come you're selling the headshell for far less than many of your competitors? That's a good thing, btw, but I'm just curious!
The 50th Anniversary limited-edition AT150ANV moving-magnet phono cartridge
You mean moving-coil (AT-50ANV)? This chap:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/eslCUC.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p5eslCUCj)
Marco.
Spectral Morn
18-01-2016, 13:18
Ha - that's interesting you should mention the FR, as I've sold it to Barry! :)
I do like it, but I've gotten used to the ease of use of headshells, pre-aligned with Stevenson geometry (which I use), via the use of drilled holes on the underneath, which I simply select one set, for bang-on alignment, to be arsed now with the faff of having to use an alignment protractor, such as is necessary with the FR and other headshells without pre-drilled holes.
Not sure what you mean by this:
What hassle or pain are you referring to? That's why I love detachable headshells - for precisely the reason that they REDUCE hassle! ;)
Marco.
Using the Mint Tractor, which is an etched curve on plate glass - the one I have made specifically for setting any cart up on a Jelco 750D mounted to a 1200 - requires a level of fussiness that I am just not willing to engage in at the minute.
If you haven't used one then you probably have no idea just how hard it is to use. However once done, its as accurate as it can be. First time I used it, it took over two hours to get everything right. I have a 103 setup that way on the Jelco already and I just can't be bothered swapping the headshells.
No worries, mate. I see. That sounds like way too much faff... I'm fairly anal about these things, but not that anal. Life's too short ;)
I'll stick to using detachable headshells, fitted with pre-drilled holes for alignment, then a quick check on my set-up jig (adjusting all other necessary parameters), and the job's a good 'un!
Hence why I've got so many headshells, fitted with cartridges that are 'ready to go'. It takes no more than a couple of minutes swapping between them, and then I just enjoy the music :cool:
Marco.
You mean moving-coil (AT-50ANV)? This chap:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/eslCUC.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/p5eslCUCj)
Marco.
Nope - This chap.
http://www.audio-technica.com/cgi-bin/dump_file.pl?file=http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/product_images/939454620c23ec50/orig/at150anv.jpg
Lol.. Perhaps both, as they're both 50th Anni models? :)
Marco.
Indeed.
The one I posted is the one that Scott mentioned.
I would love to get my hands on one for a sensible price, but no replacement styli are available.
The MM or the MC? :)
Marco.
The MM.
Supposed to be pretty good.
Cool. I'll stick with my M55E ;)
Marco.
daytona600
18-01-2016, 19:54
http://snvinyl.co.uk/WebRoot/Daily/Shops/eshop943300/53FD/199A/D6D0/57BB/02F5/0A0C/05EE/550A/49261.png
http://snvinyl.co.uk/WebRoot/Daily/Shops/eshop943300/561B/F22A/B6E6/9C8E/1E1D/0A0C/05BD/D25A/img_39177.jpg
Top of the AT range now
MM AT150SA
MC ART9
The Black Adder
18-01-2016, 20:02
Scott.
Can you please check you emails.
Thanks
Jo
Well, the headshell has arrived, and looks GORGEOUS! :drool:
Will fit the cartridge later and report results, and when I get a chance, take some pics with both in situ :cool:
Marco.
Floyddroid
20-01-2016, 11:25
Hi Scott,
Interesting... When was AT's 50th anniversary - do you know? :)
Anyway, you're selling them for a damn sight less than Analogue Seduction! See here: http://www.analogueseduction.net/headshells/audio-technica-at-ti15-anv-limited-edition-headshell.html
Also check out this ebay ad from a Japanese seller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321275697980?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
£272!! :eek:
Marco.
Yes should have said Marco, I've got a bloomin drawer full.
Lol - what of AT-Ti15ANVs? :eek:
;)
Marco.
Well, after painstakingly optimising the set-up, I've been listening for the last few hours to this headshell, currently fitted with my (vintage) stock DL-103 (extracted from its usual 'AU' plastic broadcast headshell, as per my avatar), and can't quite believe what I'm hearing... This solid-Titanium AT headshell is simply superb, and quite frankly, makes all the other detachable headshells I've got, or have heard to date, sound 'broken' (read as almost hopelessly coloured), in comparison!! :eek:
More of that in a minute. However, first I have to mention a few issues that I experienced, in terms of getting it to work optimally with a DL-103...
Because the AT headshell is a little shorter in length than those I'm used to using, I had to extend the (aforementioned) adjustable 'barrel', forming part of the bayonet housing (also acting as the facilitator for azimuth adjustment), in order to obtain accurate alignment, thus moving the cartridge forwards in the process, and because the 103 is larger (longer) than most cartridges, it occupies almost the whole available fitment area of the headshell.
Consequently, due to that lack of space, when trying to move the cartridge forward (in order to obtain accurate alignment/overhang, corresponding with my preferred Stevenson geometry), it subsequently squashes the lead wires, extending from the output pins of the 103, tightly up against the aforementioned adjustment barrel. This isn't necessarily a problem, simply that the point I'm making is that successfully mounting a 103 in this headshell, and achieving accurate alignment, results in a bloody tight fit - it simply couldn't be any tighter!!
That said, when it's done, it's done, and it all works.
Furthermore, there is also the old issue, common with other high-mass AT headshells, such as the LH-18 'TechniHard' variety, in that the housing containing the azimuth adjustment screw, 'hangs' down very low, much lower than the body of the cartridge itself. Therefore, when adjusting the VTA of the tonearm, in order to get the cartridge parallel to the record surface (as nearly always sounds best to my ears), and because the 103 itself is rather 'low slung', the housing is virtually scraping against the record surface...
After getting VTA spot on, there is literally less than 2mm clearance between the record surface and the bottom of said housing.... Therefore, any significantly warped records are liable to 'catch' on it, causing either a rubbing noise, whilst the record is playing, or in the worse case scenario, the stylus to jump out of the groove! Fortunately, I don't have many records badly warped enough for that to happen, but if you do, it would most certainly be an issue.
However, perfectly flat or only slightly warped records do not present a problem, and fortunately that's what makes up the majority of my record collection. In summary then, this AT headshell is not ideally physically suited for housing a DL-103, but with a little patience and effort, it can be made to work - and that effort is certainly worth it, paying off BIG TIME, when it comes to listening to the results...!! :wow:
I can only put the astonishing sonic performance, produced by the AT-Ti5ANV, down to its solid-Titanium construction, the resulting considerable rigidity, and combined damping qualities with the proprietary (incorporated) 'Hanenite' material, making this headshell seem virtually immune from resonance, and the deleterious effects of vibration.
Quite simply, due to there subjectively being an almost absence of vibration/resonance, and subsequent related distortion, the resulting sound produced by the partnering cartridge (in this case a stock Denon DL-103), is virtually uncoloured, and in turn rendered in the most free-from-artifice, dynamic and lifelike way imaginable, giving vinyl records the 'crystalline clarity' and ease/unflustered sonic presentation of digital replay, but without any hint of glare or sterility.
The manner in which this headshell allows the partnering cartridge to shine, thus revealing its unhindered true sonic potential, is second to none, simply breathtaking, and a real eye-opener (or that should be an ear-opener)...! :eek:
In the case of the DL-103, this means very impressive bass 'heft'/weight, power and authority in the lower registers, coupled with a wide-open and airy, almost 'valve-like' midrange. However, it's in the high-frequencies where what this headshell does is special, in terms of how it cleans up the sometimes 'murky' presentation of the stock 103 in this area, in turn giving it an almost 'bell-like' clarity and detail, such as I've only ever heard with the more expensive re-bodied versions of the DL-103.
Yes, that's right, this AT headshell has such remarkable damping qualities that its use virtually negates the need for one to spend more money on fitting a 'fancy' aftermarket body-shell... Quite remarkable, really. Of course, fitting a better one than the rather resonant stock plastic item, and using it with the AT, would almost certainly be even better, but it's the first time I've mounted a stock 103 onto a detachable headshell and considered that it wasn't mandatory to upgrade the plastic body-shell, in order to obtain a genuinely 'high-end' sound.
So am I impressed with this little device? Damn right I am!
As this headshell was only produced in limited quantities, there will be a finite amount still available, and mark my words, it is a veritable game-changer, for all those who use 'SME-type' detachable headshell arms, in terms of releasing the full potential of one's favourite cartridge (especially if it's smaller in physical size than a DL-103), and allowing one to hear exactly what's contained in those grooves. Therefore, my advice is to grab one while you can!
Apparently, Scott Nangle has these ATs available for sale, for £139. If that's the case, I'd be beating a path to his door, tout-suite, or that of anyone else currently selling them at such a competitive price.
Right, I'm off to listen to some more choons, before bed. Tomorrow I'll post some pics! :cool:
Marco.
Nice write up Marco and glad you got everything to fit.
Sounds like you have some real synergy there between the new headshell and the 103 allowing it to shine even further.
That's quite a rave review :) Maybe it would be a good idea to install some kind of spacer between the headshell and DL-103 to get some more room between the headshell and record. Of course with a spacer you always run the risk of upsetting the balance if things are just where you want them as it is. I have a couple of the AT-MG10 magnesium shells, and they're great for the price. I think I paid about £10 a piece for mine used, shipping and everything included. Anyway, the point being if that's the level of quality AT puts out at £25 or whatever the AT-MG10 retails for, I'm sure for £139 Anniversary product they make something really special indeed. It also seems to me the Audio Technica stuff is almost always a very good value for money, no matter the price range.
Nice write up Marco and glad you got everything to fit.
Sounds like you have some real synergy there between the new headshell and the 103 allowing it to shine even further.
Cheers, Jim. Indeed... This AT is, by far and away, the best sounding detachable headshell I've used, and as you know, being somewhat of a 'headshell nut', in terms of experimenting with different ones, I've heard plenty.
Quite simply, it does the job of sonically 'disappearing from the equation' better than any other I've used, and as such allows the partnering cartridge to really shine.
In that respect, high-compliance cartridges aside (which probably won't like its high-mass), this AT will make ANY good cartridge 'sing', in a way that completely escapes lesser headshells, read as those made of materials that fail to dampen/combat the effects of resonance to the same degree.
For those with 'SME-type' detachable headshell tonearms (e.g, Jelco, etc), for not too much money, it's a quick and very effective way of launching those arms into the 'super league'! :)
Marco.
Hi Kai,
Cheers! I simply couldn't fail to be impressed with the AT :)
Maybe it would be a good idea to install some kind of spacer between the headshell and DL-103 to get some more room between the headshell and record. Of course with a spacer you always run the risk of upsetting the balance if things are just where you want them as it is.
Yup, that's of course an option, and one I may try today, as I have the perfect thing. A Mpingo wood spacer, which I bought recently:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/GEkVhF.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/hlGEkVhFj)
It only weighs 1g, so shouldn't upset things too much (might even improve matters further, given its claimed sonic properties), and is just 'thick' enough to provide the required extra clearance. I'll give it a go today and report back.
I have a couple of the AT-MG10 magnesium shells, and they're great for the price. I think I paid about £10 a piece for mine used, shipping and everything included.
As do I, and I completely agree. Magnesium is probably the next best material I've heard, in terms of damping properties, compared with Titanium. As such, the various Magnesium-based AT (and Denon) headshells for sale offer superb SPPV, although I have to say fall quite some way short of what the AT-Ti15ANV is capable of.
In this instance, you definitely get what you pay for! :exactly:
Marco.
The HDG spacer from Audio Silente would probably be a good thing as well.
It comes in different thicknesses.
Yup, as would these rather lovely carbon-fibre ones, from Oyaide: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321216173128?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
:cool:
Marco.
Yup - see all the endless fun you're missing out on, with having a boring fixed-headshell tonearm! :eyebrows: ;)
Marco.
One less connection, and it is a rather good arm.
Lol, I know it is.
However, I don't buy the exaggerated sonic significance, considered by some, of the 'one less connection thing', as experience tells me that there are other massively more important aspects of the design of a tonearm than that, which combine to completely outweigh any minor detrimental sonic effects, caused by said one more connection :)
There's not much point in having one less connection, if the bearings and overall engineering of a tonearm are inferior to one with a detachable headshell - and thus 'one more connection'... There's a reason why my Ortofon arm costs £2300, despite it being, so called, 'hobbled' by having a detachable headshell !! ;)
Marco.
True. As long as there is no wear then the difference in signal quality will be negligible.
I do have several cartridge mounts for my arm, meaning that the cartridge swap is slightly less painful, but I still need to set each one up though - hence the Feickert which will arrive Monday, apparently. I am still tempted to get a few more though.
Then of course one day I still want to try an MC, but there is just so much choice.
Ok, I've fitted the Mpingo wooden damper, readjusted VTA, etc, and that has certainly cured the clearance issue! Thanks to Kai for 'prodding' me in that direction ;)
What the Mpingo has also done, as a bonus, is subjectively reduce the noise-floor further (by adding another effective layer of damping), and as a result, together with imparting its own sonic signature on proceedings, imbued music with a lovely sweet, lucid and 'expansive' quality, as well as improving detail retrieval - so another worthwhile little upgrade, for the £20 or so, I paid for it from a Korean seller on ebay.
Honestly, I doubt that anyone blindfolded could tell now that this was a stock DL-103, such is the sheer levels of clarity and tonal subtlety on offer. The combination of the AT Titanium headshell and Mpingo wooden damper has unquestionably transformed this cartridge into something unique and rather special....
I'm now just subtly tweaking the set up and playing with different weights/materials of mounting hardware (stainless steel, non-magnetic bolts, vs. lighter aluminium screws) to optimise the headshell mass and see which sounds best, such is the level of my (anal) attention to detail and quest for the best possible sound! :eyebrows:
Laters, muchachos......
Marco.
Btw, if anyone's interested in obtaining one of these wooden dampers, this is where I bought mine (and, as it's been pretty effective, I intend to get more for my other headshells):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190506528284?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Scroll down and read the buyers reviews, reporting pretty much the results I have :)
Marco.
I'm now just subtly tweaking the set up and playing with different weights/materials of mounting hardware (stainless steel, non-magnetic bolts, vs. lighter aluminium screws) to optimise the headshell mass and see which sounds best, such is the level of my (anal) attention to detail and quest for the best possible sound! :eyebrows:
Well, I can definitely say that the winner was some non-magnetic hex bolts and nuts. Tightest, most secure fitting, and best sound! I used these ones, available from Paul Stewart, and they're great: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191703783858?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Marco.
Well, I can definitely say that the winner was some non-magnetic hex bolts and nuts. Tightest, most secure fitting, and best sound! I used these ones, available from Paul Stewart, and they're great: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191703783858?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Marco.
Just had delivery of these same bolts this week- did a great job bolting in the M55e.
Nice one, Jim. For some bizarre reason, they seem to sound better than other bolts I've used before. I'm not complaining, though! :cool:
Marco.
Nice one, Jim. For some bizarre reason, they seem to sound better than other bolts I've used before. I'm not complaining, though! :cool:
Marco.
Funny you should mention that as I thought the same when I reinstalled the M55e, after fitting these bolts which were more substantial than the previous ones there was a difference.
I should have weighed them as I suspect I added a touch more mass to the cartridge as well as a more secure fit with the headshell.
Yes, you want to add some more mass to that VPI headshell/arm, as the Shure will like it, so use the heaviest nuts and bolts you've got, as long as they're non-magnetic! :)
Marco.
trio leo
26-01-2016, 20:36
Interesting thread this, not that I think detachables are better than solid arms or vice versa, but I have always preferred headshells and I can appreciate the different quality of materials.
I had what I believe to be one of the finest t/tables ever built, the Trio L07D, it had a detachable headshell.
I like the AT1503mkiii arm that I use now and I find it a lot easier to mount cartridges to a headshell, when working in the HiFi industry I set up and fitted many cartridges to all kinds of arms, after a while I decided to measure the distance from the shoulder of the headshell (minus the rubber gasket) to the stylus tip on cartridges I had set up by protractor, it was always 50mm, including fixed bolt hole headshells.
So when I fitted my latest cartridge, a Lyra Delos, I loosely fitted the cartridge to the headshell, measured 50mm as acurately as I could see with my reading glasses, aligned the cartridge square to the headshell and tightened the bolts, it sounds fine to me even on the inner grooves.
I think I would like to invest in the Titanium one though and the non magnetic bolts, (I do wonder what PEEK bolts would do?)
Happy hobby this isn't it
cheers chaps, Al
Hi Al,
I had what I believe to be one of the finest t/tables ever built, the Trio L07D, it had a detachable headshell.
Indeed. There's nothing wrong with detachable headshells, providing that both those, and the remainder of the partnering arms, are engineered to the highest standard. It's the latter which is the most important thing, not any minuscule level of sonic degradation resulting from 'one more connection'.
I like the AT1503mkiii arm that I use now and I find it a lot easier to mount cartridges to a headshell, when working in the HiFi industry I set up and fitted many cartridges to all kinds of arms, after a while I decided to measure the distance from the shoulder of the headshell (minus the rubber gasket) to the stylus tip on cartridges I had set up by protractor, it was always 50mm, including fixed bolt hole headshells.
So when I fitted my latest cartridge, a Lyra Delos, I loosely fitted the cartridge to the headshell, measured 50mm as acurately as I could see with my reading glasses, aligned the cartridge square to the headshell and tightened the bolts, it sounds fine to me even on the inner grooves.
That's a very interesting observation, and is likely what the design of detachable headshells, featuring pre-drilled holes for alignment on the underneath, are based upon - and why they work very accurately, with a minimum of fuss :)
I think I would like to invest in the Titanium one though and the non magnetic bolts, (I do wonder what PEEK bolts would do?)
Well, I thoroughly recommend this Audio Technica.
I've been using it now for about a week, and it continues to seriously impress. Some very familiar albums I've been playing are in some ways being reproduced to a notably higher sonic standard, by the 'humble' stock DL-103, simply because it's attached to the AT, than unquestionably superior cartridges in their own right are, when attached to an inferior headshell...
Make of that what you will.
I wasn't aware that PEEK cartridge bolts were available, or are you saying that it would be interesting to have some made from the required material?
Marco.
P.S I note that I've been remiss in supplying some pics of the AT in situ. I should be able to resolve that matter on Friday, when DarrenHW and Firebottle visit :cool:
Yes, you want to add some more mass to that VPI headshell/arm, as the Shure will like it, so use the heaviest nuts and bolts you've got, as long as they're non-magnetic! :)
Marco.
Funny but I feel that using a lightish headshell might be the wrong thing with my 55e... was thinking of swapping the shells out with the at95 which has a carbon fibre one fitted, and is a fair bit heavier.... food for thought:scratch:
Yup, defo do that, and use the heaviest nuts and bolts you have too, while you're at it.
In reality, however, both headshells are probably less than optimal, in terms of mass, for the M55E. I've got mine on a 14g Denon headshell. That's the level of mass you should be aiming for, to optimise the Shure's performance, certainly when using a NOS stylus :)
The Jico, however, will be different.
Marco.
PEEK bolts, unless loaded with carbon fibre, don't sound like a good idea - they have a low tensile modulus, which means you cant tighten them up without stretching them. Copper, brass, stainless steel, even aluminium are a better choice.
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