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walpurgis
14-12-2015, 15:17
Tesco are pulling another fast one.

I popped in there today and my 'bag for life' 10p carrier bag had a small hole in it, so I asked for a free replacement, which was the condition under which these are offered. Despite the signs still being up offering these, I was told no replacement could be made as they'd stopped handing them out. Apparently, it's now regarded as a free bag and illegal to provide one (so they say).

As far as I'm concerned. My 10p bought me an agreement with Tesco that they would provide replacement bags in perpetuum. They have to pay for them on my behalf, so how can it be free?

They may have to abide by any legal position they find themselves in, but have breached their agreement with me, even if that is due to unforeseen circumstances.

I guess the least they should do is refund my 10p for each of the dozens of these bags I own.

After all 10p is 10p!! :D

brian2957
14-12-2015, 15:19
Doesn't the money paid for these bags go to charity Geoff ?

walpurgis
14-12-2015, 15:21
Doesn't the money paid for these bags go to charity Geoff ?

Dunno!

Marco
14-12-2015, 16:08
More important than that pish, daftee, is why was the thread originally posted in the photography section? ;)

I think you should wear the bag on yer nut, to help you think straight! :ner: :D

Marco.

CageyH
14-12-2015, 16:43
Tin foil bags work best for that, or so I am told.

Puffin
14-12-2015, 16:52
http://www.tesco.com/carrier-bags/

This says that if it "breaks" they will replace it free of charge. I would go back and see the manager.

walpurgis
14-12-2015, 17:02
More important than that pish, daftee, is why was the thread originally posted in the photography section? ;) Marco.

Did I do That? :D Not thinking too clearly the last day or two. Nursing a temperature from some little bug the grand kids kindly brought home for me. :rolleyes:

Marco
14-12-2015, 17:43
Ah nightmare. matey. Hope you get better soon. Talking of which, I know a nice nurse............ ;)

Marco.

brian2957
14-12-2015, 17:55
Dunno!

We've been paying for our bags up here for a while now Geoff . I've asked in quite a few places and I've always been told that the money goes to charity . Can't remember if I asked in Tesco , must ask the next time I'm in .

jandl100
14-12-2015, 17:58
Ah nightmare. matey. Hope you get better soon. Talking of which, I know a nice nurse............ ;)

Marco.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/64/99/05/649905e03f5f2a015c3dfdb835ac9a7d.jpg

Marco
14-12-2015, 18:11
Wot da feck's dat, Kevster? Linky no worky......

Marco.

jandl100
14-12-2015, 18:13
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Marco
14-12-2015, 18:13
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/64/99/05/649905e03f5f2a015c3dfdb835ac9a7d.jpg

Ah yes, 'Susy the Sponge', I remember her well... ;)

Marco.

Wilfred of Ivanhoe
14-12-2015, 18:19
They really used the statement "for life".....at Tesco!

CageyH
14-12-2015, 18:20
Was Supposed to be this.

15864

Tarzan
14-12-2015, 18:28
Dunno!

Who cares- a lot of pubs have shut to be made into Tesco Expresses.:steam:


l know, l know.:(

jandl100
14-12-2015, 18:32
Doesn't the money paid for these bags go to charity Geoff ?

Yup, according to the English law ...

Once you’ve deducted reasonable costs, it’s expected that you’ll donate all proceeds to good causes, particularly environmental causes.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrier-bag-charges-retailers-responsibilities

:)

brian2957
14-12-2015, 22:41
Thanks for the clarification Jerry . :)

walpurgis
14-12-2015, 23:05
Tesco are talking nonsense. Just been on the government website:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrier-bag-charges-retailers-responsibilities

I shall pull them up next time I go there.

Ulysses
14-12-2015, 23:27
I remember how they lowered petrol prices to put the independent competition out of business, and once that objective was acheieved put the prices steadily up again. Now we all have to queue up at the station.

They treat their suppliers badly too. I go out of my way not to use them.

walpurgis
14-12-2015, 23:36
Funny thing is, the local 'corner shops' now undercut Tesco on price and quality. For instance, Tesco spuds are crap and pricey, the local shops sell for less and the product is fine. Wine and beer are dear in Tesco, but cheap and very decent elsewhere and as for the crusty bread in Tesco, it's pale, starchy, bland and dried out. Horrible!! How the hell can a crusty french stick be tasteless and nearly white?

brian2957
14-12-2015, 23:46
Agreed Geoff . I always shop at the local shops where possible . We have a very good butcher and baker very near :)

The Black Adder
15-12-2015, 08:10
We don't touch Tesco's.... and are better off because of it.

struth
15-12-2015, 08:41
I do a lot of shopping in Tesco(mostly my sons) and find them as good as the others. Im inclined to shop around if i can for my own ie aldi lidl morrisons mostly although i like tescos ready meals.
I got a 10p bag for life that didnt have bfl on it replaced a couple of weeks ago without asking for it...theve maybe changed there practi es though since. It will cost them more tgan the few pence in bags if they play silly buggers re this i think and they are alreeady struggling at mo.

Ulysses
15-12-2015, 08:51
Just steer clear of the beef burgers, or you may get a little horse;)

struth
15-12-2015, 08:55
Think they promised no more horse John....never said anything about jockeys though;) ...dont eat burgers or hot dogs fortunately

Marco
15-12-2015, 09:06
Interesting...

The huge Tesco (extra) in Wrexham I have to say is quite excellent, and sells some of the best bread of all the local supermarkets. Their French 'artisan' rolls and bread (pain au chocolat, etc) are pretty authentic, as we know from being frequent travellers to France. Their baguettes, in particular, are beautifully thin and crispy, with a nice soft (but not too doughy) centre, just like you get in France. I believe that they use French flour in the baking process.

Also, some items in their 'Finest' range, really are top-notch, and easily eclipse the quality of rival products from Asda, Sainsbury's and Morrisons. Only the wine selection in Sainsbury's is better overall than in Tesco, but much of that will be down to where you live.

However, we rarely use Tesco, as it's smack bang in the middle of town, and so the car park is always a fooking NIGHTMARE (once in, if you can find a space, you can never get out), as every bugger parks there when doing their shopping in town - and you can just imagine what it's like now with Christmas! :eek:

So no, we don't go there, or indeed very often to the others.

Where we do go, however, is a branch of Lidl, situated in a nice quiet suburb of Wrexham, which is great because as everyone else uses the one in the town centre, you generally get the store to yourself, especially during the early morning/afternoon on weekdays! And if you're like me and LOATHE crowds/queues with a passion, and simply want to get in and out, ASAP, that's a must!

These days, the produce Lidl (and Aldi) sell is superb, and IMO better quality than that found in most other supermarkets (especially their fruit and veg, and anything that is traditionally German). Their (albeit small) wine selection is just fantastic, particularly their 'connoisseur range', where you can find top-notch wines at very attractive prices indeed - sometimes shockingly so!!

I'd also say that their 'Deluxe' range rivals, and in some cases, betters Tesco's Finest, and when Lidl have on one of their 'themed weeks'/promotions, French, Italian or whatever, the quality of products within that are, quite frankly, unrivalled elsewhere, so yes, we're big Lidl (and Aldi) fans :)

The only other supermarket we use regularly is Waitrose, quite simply because they sell genuinely high-quality (albeit expensive) foodstuffs, etc, that none of the other supermarkets do, and so we go there once a month, just to buy some nice things, and have a light lunch and a glass of wine in their superb deli section. It's all rather satisfying and civilised. Plus, the Waitrose we go to in Chester is never really busy, so you can happily saunter around the isles, with your trolley, in relative tranquility, without bumping into hordes or chavs... ;)

In between that, we often use local farm markets, for various things, and ALWAYS buy our meat from a local butcher. Quite simply, top-quality meat from a proper butcher tastes nothing like the crap that they sell in supermarkets, even the so-called 'speciality' stuff, and it's often cheaper too, especially when the butcher gets to know you, which is one of the big advantages of using local independents.

Carrier bags? It's never been an issue for us, as Del has made some really big, strong ones (with handles) out of re-cycled curtain material (it was inevitable that her degree in textiles would come in handy one day :D), which we keep in the boot of the car, and simply bring into the store to use for our shopping. We've been doing that for many years. Much better than yer plastic shite, and it's free (and 100% green), too! :eyebrows:

Marco.

The Black Adder
15-12-2015, 09:17
The problem with supermarket bread (to name just one of the 1000's of products) is that it's not really bread... in a traditional sense that is. Ready made bread has so much crap in it that you wouldn't believe. Sure it's 'said' to be harmless but for one I'd rather eat 'real' bread. I like to know what's in my food.

The on-site bread that they 'bake' is even worse, they can get away with putting even more of anything and everything in it and don't tell you (apart from known allergens). It's a loophole in the law so if you 'think' it's been made better than the packet bread then think again. It's freshly baked, not made. All of the dough is pre-made in a factory 'somewhere' in the world and then frozen, the employees then just stick it in the oven. With the smell of baking bread and some good placement, visual/audible marketing you have a full purchase immersion.

Marco
15-12-2015, 09:26
I'm sure you're right, Jo, however is that also true with the organic stuff?

I do support your views on the matter, however. Regardless though, the organic/artisan French bread products our local Tesco sells, and that also found in Waitrose, tastes pretty close (about 80% as good), as you get in France. The Italian stuff is also of a similar level, particularly the awesome and different varieties of focaccia sold in Waitrose! :drool:

The problem is that we like French and Italian-style (continental) bread, and it's very difficult to get that (done well) in a small local bakery, which IME, tend to sell what one could call 'British-style' bread, such as farmhouse/grannary loaves, etc, and which although lovely in their own right, aren't a baguette or a lovely focaccia... ;)

Maybe it's different, though, where you are? :)

Marco.

struth
15-12-2015, 09:36
I know my local morrisons make their own dough.. Ive seen the bakers do it. Dunno about the rest...probably not

The Black Adder
15-12-2015, 10:45
All supermarkets buy their dough in. Some may make special batches. And there is some dough that needs to be rested and then kneaded once it's thawed out.

Yes, it will taste the same. They spend millions on getting the food to taste like it should as it's their business to do that. I'm not saying that it doesn't taste really nice, of course it does, that's why it sells. What I am saying is that the ingredients they put in bread these days isn't what you would put in at home.

To make my point on freshly baked bread, it doesn't require an ingredients list therefore we don't know what else goes in to it but extra bits will go in to heighten the taste.

For example, here is what a loaf of Sainsbury's wholemeal loaf contains:
British Wholemeal Wheat Flour, Water, Yeast, Spirit Vinegar, Salt, WheatGluten, Rapeseed Oil, Soya Flour, Emulsifier: Mono- and Diacetyl Tartaric Acid Esters of Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids; Palm Oil, Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid.

Notem that Sainsbury's loaf is a relatively 'good' one... some have nearly double the ingredients.

Compared to what it should contain:
Flour, water, yeast, salt and sometimes oil.

Marco
15-12-2015, 10:52
Sure, I take your point and agree. However, do you get what I mean about buying quality continental-style bread in UK independent bakeries, stuff like baguettes, boule, focaccia and ciabatta?

Round here anyway, it's almost impossible, and unfortunately good delis in Wrexham, where one might normally obtain such bread (unless I go into Chester), are non-existent :)

Marco.

montesquieu
15-12-2015, 11:44
Tesco is the Evil Empire personified (alongside Asda, bastard offspring of the dastardly Wallmart). I refuse to shop at either and have done for a long time, ever since Asda swallowed Fine Fare, and Tesco the wonderful WM Low, surely the best of the old Scottish supermarket chains, with their focus even in the 80s on local produce. Tesco and to a lesser extent (in the UK anyway) Asda have been responsible for putting many local shops out of business and I refuse to deal with either of them.

Lidl gets my custom now (along with Waitrose for the stuff Lidl doesn't sell). Lidl has its own bag scandal though, they just stopped selling their own 10p strong bag, you have to buy an expensive (59p!) reinforced one or the cheaper smaller thinner 5p bag, the 10p one (which was perfect) has disappeared. :(

Our Lidl (in Crowthorne) has a bakery now too as does the one in Wokingham.

struth
15-12-2015, 11:53
Was in lidl this morning actually..there new livingston shop...its big...get my coffee there

Marco
15-12-2015, 12:24
Lidl gets my custom now (along with Waitrose for the stuff Lidl doesn't sell).


Indeed, it's the discerning gentleman's choice ;)


Lidl has its own bag scandal though, they just stopped selling their own 10p strong bag, you have to buy an expensive (59p!) reinforced one or the cheaper smaller thinner 5p bag, the 10p one (which was perfect) has disappeared. :(


Tell your wife to get her sewing machine out and make some bags out of scrap pieces of (strong) fabric. Feck paying HEE-HAW for carrier bags!! :exactly:

Marco.

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 13:01
Indeed, it's the discerning gentleman's choice ;)


Soon they'll be selling tweed shooting jackets and moustache brushes! .. Oh hold on, have you seen this week's special offers!!

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 13:05
Tesco are talking nonsense. Just been on the government website:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrier-bag-charges-retailers-responsibilities

I shall pull them up next time I go there.

Yep, sounds like employees and probably managers not knowing what's going on..

From Tesco's own website http://www.tesco.com/carrier-bags/:




How does this charge affect Tesco bags for life?

Our ‘Bag for Life’ bags, which are made from 100% recycled materials, will be replaced free of charge when it wears out and we’ll even recycle your old bag.

Tesco Bags for Life can be replaced as often as necessary.

From that government website:


Returnable bags and bags for life

You’re not required to apply the 5p charge for:

woven plastic bags
multiple reuse bags (bags for life), when replaced, if originally sold for 5p or more

You can still charge for these bags but you don’t need to record sales and proceeds as you do with single-use carrier bags.

A returnable multiple reuse bag must be all of the following:

sold for 5p or more
suitable for reuse
replaced free of charge if returned to you when worn out

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 13:09
Tell your wife to get her sewing machine out and make some bags out of scrap pieces of (strong) fabric. Feck paying BUGGER ALL for carrier bags!! :exactly:

Marco.

Get your own out mate! Hopefully his wife is too busy either down the pub, on a weekend burn around the Nurburgring or in the garage building some DIY speakers..

Macca
15-12-2015, 13:13
Get your own out mate! Hopefully his wife is too busy either down the pub, on a weekend burn around the Nurburgring or in the garage building some DIY speakers..

A wife who could build loudspeakers would certainly be a catch. She'd still have to have good legs, though...

Marco
15-12-2015, 13:16
Get your own out mate! Hopefully his wife is too busy either down the pub, on a weekend burn around the Nurburgring or in the garage building some DIY speakers..

Yes, on reflection you're right. It would be remiss of me to hinder her ability to fulfil her 'primary directive'! :D

...[along with bringing cool beers in from the fridge].

Marco.

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 13:16
A wife who could build loudspeakers would certainly be a catch. She'd still have to have good legs, though...

Just use stands like everyone else ?

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 13:21
Yes, on reflection you're right. It would be remiss of me to hinder her ability to fulfil her 'primary directive'! :D

...[as well as bringing cool beers in from the fridge].

Marco.

.... and as you open yours you find she shook it up and is shouting "AAAAAHHH!" in your face as the beer trickles down your face. That's how marriage should be :lol:

Marco
15-12-2015, 13:24
Ha - yes! And then (if it's a healthy marriage) the wet clothes are ripped off for some rumpy-pumpy! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Wilfred of Ivanhoe
15-12-2015, 17:13
I remember how they lowered petrol prices to put the independent competition out of business, and once that objective was acheieved put the prices steadily up again. Now we all have to queue up at the station.

They treat their suppliers badly too. I go out of my way not to use them.

By experience, they are bad with suppliers just like the others: no saint in this business. Maybe they make more mess.

Audio Advent
15-12-2015, 18:14
Ha - yes! And then (if it's a healthy marriage) the wet clothes are ripped off for some rumpy-pumpy! :eyebrows:

Marco.

No while strictly come dancing is on (presumably what the beer was for..).

Firebottle
15-12-2015, 18:28
A wife who could build loudspeakers would certainly be a catch. She'd still have to have good legs, though...

Can't be letting standards slip there mate....:eyebrows:

struth
15-12-2015, 18:30
I know Asda are pretty poor to staff. if your off ill, irrelevent of being in hospital for a heart attack or not, you get a letter of warning.... I mean, that was supposed to go out in Dickens time.

Ninanina
15-12-2015, 19:05
A wife who could build loudspeakers would certainly be a catch. She'd still have to have good legs, though...

I built some 6 ft voigt pipes some years ago, with some help, using Fostex drivers. My legs are ok as well :eek:

Marco
15-12-2015, 19:09
Is that a proposal to Martin then, Bev? :D

Marco.

Ninanina
15-12-2015, 19:10
Is that a proposal to Martin then, Bev? :D

Marco.

Errrr no just saying and all that... :D:D

Marco
15-12-2015, 19:10
No while strictly come dancing is on (presumably what the beer was for..).

Soz, never watch that pish! She'll bring the beers over for the lads when the footy is on [and like it, too]! ;)

Marco.

Haselsh1
15-12-2015, 19:32
Carrier bag for life... Every little helps :eyebrows:

Marco
15-12-2015, 19:51
Indeed... Problem is, the damn things are too small, and hardly hold anything. You can get half the contents of your fridge in our home-made ones! :eyebrows:

Handy in the likes of Lidl, as one person at the checkout holds the bag open, while the other shovels the stuff (which has already been organised into categories) inside, after the staff have scanned it... It's like a well-oiled production line, which is why we don't have to waste time standing packing things afterwards.... ;)

Marco.

twickers
15-12-2015, 21:47
'Kin ell. Six pages about a tesco carrier bag. Your like a bunch of old dears.

walpurgis
15-12-2015, 21:55
'Kin ell. Six pages about a tesco carrier bag. Your like a bunch of old dears.

Well you just joined in! :D