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Tea24
14-12-2015, 09:35
Yes! I have (again) bxxxxxxd my Dynavector 10x5. I am thinking of replacing it with a higher end Nagaoka………. Let me explain:-

I have Parkinson’s & although I don’t shake much I seem to get clumsier as time goes on (could partly be age related too).

I have a Nottingham Analogue Interspace Junior (aside: IMHO the best TT at its price available; it has the same platter as the Spacedeck & when coupled with a speed controller [in my case a Pro-Ject] is, quite simply, very good indeed; knocks spots off all those Regas) which comes as standard with the Interspace arm.

Up until now I have always mounted a 10 x 5 on it, which suits the combo very well, but have always managed to trash it at some stage, once even whilst mounting a new cartridge!

Also to replace the cart one has to remove the arm and start the set up from scratch with, in my case at any rate, all the likelihood of trashing it again.

I was therefore thinking of replacing it with an up market Nagaoka; I have an MP 110 which I use occasionally on my Lenco and I like what I hear. It would enable me to attach the cart to the arm after removing the stylus, thus removing at one fell swoop the likelihood of breaking it at the mounting stage and enable me to change the stylus without going through the whole set up stage again.

My question is would one of these carts suit this deck & arm?

(The rest of my equipment? – Graham Slee Jazz Club, Quad 66 pre, Quad 606 power, Kef 104/2s).

What is the consensus?

Cheers


PS Mods: I am posting this on another Forum too, as I want to get as much input as I can before ‘investing’. Hope that’s OK.

Tea24
15-12-2015, 08:38
BUMP!

CageyH
15-12-2015, 08:51
Something like an MP200/300 or 500?
The MP500 is supposed to be very nice, although I have no experience of one.
I do own the MP150 which I quite like. The only issue being the further up the range you go, the more expensive the replacement stylus becomes. There is a reasonable jump in price for anything above the MP200

jandl100
15-12-2015, 09:18
I'm a big fan of the 10X5. :thumbsup: Horribly exposed cantilever, though! :doh:
I've had a Nag MP30 and tbh didn't really rate it. Although choice of music probably has a lot to do with this, I'm a classical fan and imo MC carts are almost always better for that.

But I can't advise about NA arm/deck compatibility.

Oldpinkman
15-12-2015, 10:19
My Dad has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons (by his GP - I think my sister and I diagnosed it at least 2 years ago - but he's a stubborn old sod)
Where are you in France? If you are in the South West we might be able to help with setup - although with my dodgy eye we could end up a comedy double act.

Regarding cartridges, even though I am now using a Dynavector Moving Coil, and it is the dogs doodahs, I have long used Moving magnets, and with a decent phono stage they can perform really well

I have a Goldring 1022GX in the box - and keep it for "bake-offs" with Arthur - who uses it as his standard dem / comparison cartridge , partly because its so easy to switch the stylus assembly between 2 bodies for consistency, but mainly because its a bloody good cartridge. I know they have crept up a bit in price, and they are outperformed by the very best moving coils, but they don't really do anything wrong, and are very forgiving

I haven't tried one personally but I know Arthur rates the 2300 even better - so maybe that's another option. (or the 2500)

If I had to use a 1022 for the rest of my life, I would still keep listening to records - including classical. I'm not sure I would if I had to use a Quad phono stage (although I'm thinking mostly of the 33, 34,44)

Marco
15-12-2015, 10:33
My Dad has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons (by his GP - I think my sister and I diagnosed it at least 2 years ago - but he's a stubborn old sod)


Sorry to hear that, Richard. I hope you and he (and the rest of the family) cope ok with it.

Marco.

Spectral Morn
15-12-2015, 11:46
Sorry to hear that, Richard. I hope you and he (and the rest of the family) cope ok with it.

Marco.

+1

Sorry to read that :(

Spectral Morn
15-12-2015, 11:59
Goldring 10 series are good allround MM carts and as Richard said the styli are easy to replace. Setting up is a wee bit fiddly as the shape of the cart body makes tightening the nuts up a bit awkward, but once done its done. Should sound great on your turntable too by the way. Yes you can spend more but changing the styli easily has got to be a big bonus.

Oldpinkman
15-12-2015, 14:18
+1

Sorry to read that :(

Thanks Neil and Marco. He's 81 and just back from a cruise of the Caribbean with Mum. He has a referral to a specialist coming up soon. Hopefully it won't progress too quickly or will stabilise. :)

Marco
15-12-2015, 14:49
Thanks Neil and Marco. He's 81 and just back from a cruise of the Caribbean with Mum.


Quite right, and good luck to them both. That's the kind of thing I want to be doing if I reach 81, as opposed to, oh I don't know, say, being embroiled in continual conflict with all and sundry, on an Internet forum, like some demented old saddo! ;)


He has a referral to a specialist coming up soon. Hopefully it won't progress too quickly or will stabilise.

Yup, mate, fingers crossed :thumbsup:

Marco.

Tea24
15-12-2015, 16:04
Thanks for the replies; I must look into the Goldrings - don't know much about them.

Richard, I am in Lectoure, in the Gers. Actually I can set up a cart well enough its just that I tend to break the bloody cantilever as I am attaching it to the arm ( though this was not what happened to this one it was the duster that did it!). If I have something where I can remove the stylus whilst doing that bit I should be OK. Also it is fiddly putting a new cart on the NA arm as one has to go behind everything to undo the leads to rhe pre & also the earth, pull them through the base etc etc., so just having to replace the stylus without going through all that would be good.

Sorry about your Pa but remember that every case of Parkinson's is different; mine is relatively mild for now and it is a slow progressing illness. Also he has got it late in life so, with luck, it shouldn't be too much of a trial. Getting it young is usually worse - I have a younger brother who has it bad but he was diagnosed at about 49/50. Not so good.
:(

Oldpinkman
15-12-2015, 16:55
Julian

Nearly a neighbour - you are not far from Cagey (I am due to be near Quillan - about 40 minutes due south of Carcassonne - so a bit further away).

The Goldrings are good. Definitely good enough. As Neil points out they can be a bit tricky to mount - but you can do that without the stylus in. We are not due down permanently until February (probably late Feb) - but I will have the cartridge and can put it in if you want to listen to it.

Yes - hopefully Dad's relatively mild Parkinsons will be slow to progress, and manageable without drug therapy. Having met my Mum in the research labs at Boroughs Welcome, he spent most of his career at MSD where Sinemet was one of the drugs he was involved with - so he knows about the condition!! Its not an easy condition to diagnose in the elderly - but there is a slight hesitancy and almost slur to speech (very slight) , a slight tremor, and a very obvious shuffle to his gait - which is what convinced my sister (who also works in Pharma - for Pfizer). But he's in good spirit and health otherwise. He has finally accepted that he is banned from climbing the long ladder to clear the first floor gutters though!

That's rotten luck for your brother. I hope he manages the condition as well as possible

CornishPasty
21-12-2015, 16:44
I've been reading how good the AT150MLX is. Some have said it's better than a 2M Black which is going some considering I can buy it here for around 230 quid. That seems like a bargain if it's all it's reckoned to be. Anyone heard it?