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Ah sorry! It refers initially to John Kelly of Killanne and is now oft recalled as an intent to be looking for a fight...thus kelly's boy.....i believe it even made the Simpsons.lol...
Ps it was a joke
Sorry, still don't know what you're on about! :confused: :lol:
Who's John Kelly of Killanne?
Marco.
P.S Never watch the Simpsons, as I find it banal in the extreme.
Sorry, still don't know what you're on about! :confused: :lol:
Who's John Kelly of Killanne?
Marco.
P.S Never watch the Simpsons, as I find it banal in the extreme.
He was a fighting Irish rebel from the 18th century so not surprised in that way.There was an old song about him and his exploits thats verses always ended Kelly the boy from Killane.which was shorted in fighting talk to kellys boy. Nowt like social history lol. Simpsons used to be fabulous stuff although the modern ones are very poor by comparison.
Simpsons used to be fabulous stuff although the modern ones are very poor by comparison.
First 200 episodes there is rarely a bad one, after that there is rarely a good one.
Although to get the full benefit of the earlier ones you do need more than a passing familiarity with US television and politics c. 1955 to 1980
Which is probably why it bores me to tears! ;)
Marco.
awkwardbydesign
09-12-2015, 13:49
First 200 episodes there is rarely a bad one, after that there is rarely a good one.
Although to get the full benefit of the earlier ones you do need more than a passing familiarity with US television and politics c. 1955 to 1980
Or be old enough to understand some of the jokes. Did you get the reference in the episode where Bart was giving out the hymn sheets? And the organist played an exhausting version of "In the Garden of Eden"? That's the one that made me start to appreciate The Simpsons.
yes I do - that is from the golden era, IIRC the old lady playing the organ dies of exhaustion at the end of the solo.
Ina gadda da vida was the track i think supposedly meant to have been in the garden of eden... Some say it was a stoned scratching on the demo that accidentally put on label but was more likely to have been Ron Busby with a pair of scissors anda copy of Time magazine.
I read somewhere that they were so hammered in the studio they couldn't pronounce the title properly and it stuck
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 15:45
First 200 episodes there is rarely a bad one, after that there is rarely a good one.
Although to get the full benefit of the earlier ones you do need more than a passing familiarity with US television and politics c. 1955 to 1980
I'll trust you on the point at which they went down hill fast but I totally agree! The Simpsons used to be fantastic with subtle humour, irony and home truths like a good stand-up. Now it's just desperate attempt for a quick unfunny joke every 30 seconds. And don't get me started on Family Guy which probably caused the change in humour on The Simpsons in the first place - I've never once laughed or made it through a whole episode of Family Guy without thinking "I could be cleaning the toilet or something else less boring".
Family Guy is a bit of a mixed bag. IMO some of the episodes border on genius, others are a bit meh. Also you really need to know your 80's American television; e.g. if you have to google what 'Charles In Charge' is then you are probably going to struggle a bit with some of the gags.
If you watch the South Park episode where they try to get Family Guy taken off air you find out how it is written, which answers a lot of questions ;)
South Park and FG are the opposite of the Simpos as they started off poorly but got a lot better with time.
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 16:18
Family Guy is a bit of a mixed bag. IMO some of the episodes border on genius, others are a bit meh. Also you really need to know your 80's American television; e.g. if you have to google what 'Charles In Charge' is then you are probably going to struggle a bit with some of the gags.
If you watch the South Park episode where they try to get Family Guy taken off air you find out how it is written, which answers a lot of questions ;)
South Park and FG are the opposite of the Simpos as they started off poorly but got a lot better with time.
I'll have to watch that - not seen South Park for years. I remember watching Charles in Charge and things like that as a kid (might not have been current US TV at the time though) but still don't find the references funny... because they wash over the bits that were good in Charles in Charge and just make banal references. Banal is the best word for Family Guy in my opinion (only my opinion... hopefully I'm not alone :eek: )
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 16:43
Oh my god, I just watched an episode of Charles in Charge... ruined the memory of it. Funny watching the over-acting though and the good old 80s moral message. Then followed up with and episode of FG - stopped at the half-way point again cos I got bored. Deflinately influenced the change in humour on The Simpsons - visual literalisations of what someone just said etc blah blah yawn.
the cut-aways are what make Family Guy what it is.
But we don't get to choose our sense of humour so it ain't going to work for everyone.
I guess Charles in Charge is on U-tube? Personally I was always more of a Family Ties fan.
Ok, guys, no more Simpsons or Family Guy pish. If you want to talk about that bollocks, start another thread. Macca, when you get a mo, please move all relevant posts to a new thread in Abstract Chat.
Ta! :cool:
Marco.
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 21:33
Marco!
Everything about the Simpsons and Family Guy was a big long metaphor exactly relating to what was in that myths article! The big reveal was coming and it was going to blow your mind ...
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 21:40
the cut-aways are what make Family Guy what it is.
But we don't get to choose our sense of humour so it ain't going to work for everyone.
I guess Charles in Charge is on U-tube? Personally I was always more of a Family Ties fan.
Found both on youtube - the charles in charge had a wierd dream sequence light/dark halo effect on screen. I remember now the feeling of Charles in Charge, it being after the children's programs (and maybe Neighbours?) and just as you were getting bored of watching tv but killing time before dinner.
Yeah its the cut-aways which I find the most unfunny and is the direction The Simpsons took. They're almost like bad puns and also the kind of socially nervous, wacky, "what if it were literal" jokes I might have used have come up with once but quickly learned weren't funny (except very occasionally in your head). But everyone has different senses of humour else there'd be a lot of comedy writers on the dole!
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 21:41
I love Family Guy, The Simpsons (though I don't watch them much now) and, of course, South Park...hence my avatar :D
Cartman is a lovable rogue but my favourite character is Butters as he's so cute.....
In Family Guy my favourite character has to be Brian....
Lol - until now, I hadn't a clue what your avatar represented! :lol:
Sorry, each to his or her own, but all that American shit just ain't my cuppa...... In fact, outside of 'Cheers', shown in the 1980s, American 'comedies' have never done it for me. Just not my type of humour, soz.
Marco.
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 21:50
Lol - until now, I hadn't a clue what your avatar represented! :lol:
Sorry, each to his or her own, but all that American shit just ain't my cuppa...... In fact, outside of 'Cheers', shown in the 1980s, American 'comedies' have never done it for me. Just not my type of humour, soz.
Marco.
Not a problem we are all different... I just like zany stuff... which also includes anything Spike Milligan as well... :eek:
awkwardbydesign
09-12-2015, 21:52
I am sad enough to have South Park t-shirt. To try to keep an argumentative grandson in line.
https://img1.etsystatic.com/069/0/10837909/il_570xN.814344673_a1vd.jpg
Marco!
Everything about the Simpsons and Family Guy was a big long metaphor exactly relating to what was in that myths article! The big reveal was coming and it was going to blow your mind ...
Awesome... Trouble is, I'm a direct, 'spit it out and tell it as it is' kind of guy, when it comes to discussions like this. I can't be arsed with long drawn-out 'dramas' or deciphering 'cryptic references' to stuff I know nothing about and have little interest in.
Moreover, anything relating to the Simpsons or Family Guy is an instant turn off!
Marco.
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 21:57
I am sad enough to have South Park t-shirt. To try to keep an argumentative grandson in line.
https://img1.etsystatic.com/069/0/10837909/il_570xN.814344673_a1vd.jpg
Love it Richard... but I think that should say "Authoritah".... :D
awkwardbydesign
09-12-2015, 21:57
Lol - until now, I hadn't a clue what your avatar represented! :lol:
Sorry, each to his or her own, but all that American shit just ain't my cuppa...... In fact, outside of 'Cheers', shown in the 1980s, American 'comedies' have never done it for me. Just not my type of humour, soz.
Marco.
Cheers used to be unpredictable, but then it became predictable, like most other American sitcoms. The appeal of The Simpsons, to me, was the sneaky and obscure jokes in it, on top of the obvious. Like when Homer did childcare and was inspected, one of his faults was the "illegal underhand toilet roll positioning"! So right.
Not a problem we are all different... I just like zany stuff... which also includes anything Spike Milligan as well... :eek:
Zany I love, Spike Milligan I love... I just don't see it in the Simpsons or Family guy, to a degree that I can relate to or enjoy. Daft-looking cartoon characters talking pish in a daft accent, nah not my thing.
Now The League of Gentlemen, that is right up my alley, and zany with a capital 'Z'! :)
Marco.
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 22:01
Zany I love, Spike Milligan I love... I just don't see it in the Simpsons or Family guy, to a degree that I can relate to or enjoy. Daft-looking cartoon characters talking pish in a daft accent, nah not my thing,
Now The League of Gentlemen, that is right up my alley! :)
Marco.
I also love The League of Gentlemen... very odd and very black but a great watch...
The appeal of The Simpsons, to me, was the sneaky and obscure jokes in it, on top of the obvious.
Trouble is, if the "sneaky and obscure" jokes are so sneaky and obscure, that they go right over your head because you're unfamiliar with some political reference Martin mentioned earlier (can't remember what), or whatever other obscure references are made you're unfamiliar with, then it's all pointless.
Marco.
Audio Advent
09-12-2015, 22:10
Lol - until now, I hadn't a clue what your avatar represented! :lol:
Sorry, each to his or her own, but all that American shit just ain't my cuppa...... In fact, outside of 'Cheers', shown in the 1980s, American 'comedies' have never done it for me. Just not my type of humour, soz.
Marco.
Surely Frazier verged on some of Cheers' humour?
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 22:15
One of my absolute favourite Spike moments is the following..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S5xECic_A
The quote. at about '3:14".... "They get a receipt" I actually used once when someone/company was asking for money and to be honest myself and my partner almost wet ourselves.... :eek::eek:..... sorry you had to be there....:doh:
Surely Frazier verged on some of Cheers' humour?
Yes, but I'd lost interest by then! ;)
Overall, I just much prefer British comedies. I've never really *got* the American sense of humour. Just don't mention 'Friends', as that cretinous bullshite, for airheads, really makes me PUKE! :spew:
What's the show on TV where they have live comedy acts from all over the world, I think hosted by Michael McIntryre? Well, almost always when an American comedian comes on, I hate it and just sit there totally non-plussed, but usually laugh out loud at 90% of the British acts!
At the end of the day, it's all personal taste :)
Marco.
Ninanina
09-12-2015, 22:28
Yes, but I'd lost interest by then! ;)
Overall, I just much prefer British comedies. I've never really *got* the American sense of humour. Just don't mention 'Friends', as that cretinous bullshite, for airheads, really makes me PUKE! :spew:
What's the show on TV where they have live comedy acts from all over the world, I think hosted by Michael McIntryre? Well, almost always when an American comedian comes on, I hate it and just sit there totally non-plussed, but usually laugh out loud at 90% of the British acts!
At the end of the day, it's all personal taste :)
Marco.
Funnily enough I detest most American programms and certainly have never watched Friends and don't intend to.... however the cartoon's mentioned I love... can't put my finger on why, I just do.. :mental:
You don't need a reason. If you like it, you like it :)
Marco.
Zany I love, Spike Milligan I love... I just don't see it in the Simpsons or Family guy, to a degree that I can relate to or enjoy. Daft-looking cartoon characters talking pish in a daft accent, nah not my thing,
Now The League of Gentlemen, that is right up my alley, and zany with a capital 'Z'! :)
Marco.
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Got the series and film of LoG. It was a great series....
Very original
Yes, and altogether different class (and in a different league, no pun intended) from the fooking Simpsons!
:yesbruv:
Marco.
Beobloke
16-12-2015, 10:27
It's strange - I'm a huge Family Guy fan and have always felt that Seth McFarlane (the creator) has a surprisingly Anglicised sense of humour. There are some marvellous examples of subtle humour and irony in the show that I know for a fact many Americans don't get at all! On a similar vein, another favourite of mine was 'King of the Hill', which was set in Texas - a friend of mine has a brother in law from Texas and he said that most Texans thought it was a documentary, not a comedy show!
As to The League Of Gentlemen, sorry but I don't get this at all. I was shocked to discover it was actually intended to be funny...
It was a local show, for local people:eyebrows:
King of the Hill was pretty good. Same bloke did Beavis and Butthead, which wasn't very good.
It's strange - I'm a huge Family Guy fan and have always felt that Seth McFarlane (the creator) has a surprisingly Anglicised sense of humour. There are some marvellous examples of subtle humour and irony in the show that I know for a fact many Americans don't get at all! On a similar vein, another favourite of mine was 'King of the Hill', which was set in Texas - a friend of mine has a brother in law from Texas and he said that most Texans thought it was a documentary, not a comedy show!
As to The League Of Gentlemen, sorry but I don't get this at all. I was shocked to discover it was actually intended to be funny...
Lol... It just shows you how humour is very much a personal thing. I've not even heard of "King of the Hill', but if it's more childish and banal American pap (like Family Guy), I'll hate it! :D
Marco.
Only liked early Simpsons..first 13 series were best with probably 4 to 8 being the cream as entire series. All other us stuff were pretty crappy in my book...certainly cartoon wise. Cheers had a few good things done in it to and quite liked it for a while but like many it outlived itself. Give my Blackadder jeeves n wooster and red dwarf any day.
Defo... Or The Young Ones, Not the Nine O'Clock News, Little Britain and anything with Paul Whitehouse in it (The Fast Show will do)! :)
Marco.
Defo... Or The Young Ones, Not the Nine O'Clock News, Little Britain and anything with Paul Whitehouse in it (The Fast Show will do)! :)
Marco.
Yep I loved all of those. King of The Hill was nothing like Family Guy. More like Rosanne but in cartoon form.
Ah, I see. Rosanne was actually ok, but I usually struggle with what Americans consider as 'funny'...
Aside from Married with Children, which had its moments, and Cheers, Happy Days (Fonz and all), from back in the day, I'm struggling to think of any American comedies I have any time for, or that make me laugh. It's very different from British humour, which is much more my cuppa!
Just remembered another favourite of mine... Fonejacker - absolutely has me soaking my scanties with laughter that does! Fooking hilarious... Pity it seems to have stopped. Have you seen it? :)
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Marco.
walpurgis
16-12-2015, 18:40
'Malcolm in The Middle' had some seriously loony moments. I liked that series.
It did have its moments.
Best American comedy for me will always be The Phil Silvers Show aka 'Sergeant Bilko'. Closely followed by The Larry Sanders Show. I can watch them any number of times.
Does no-one like Fonejacker? :D
Marco.
never heard of it and can't watch your links now as I'm at work.
If you like hilarious phone wind-ups, you'll love it! :eyebrows:
Play the vids when you get home and let me know what you think.
Marco.
awkwardbydesign
17-12-2015, 11:51
Does no-one like fonejacker? :D
Marco.
No.
Anyway, bring back Cow and Chicken! (I just found my pencil stand!)
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