Got to get me one of these

[cloth-ears]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/cloth_ears/plas_zpsukewwbqc.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/cloth_ears/media/plas_zpsukewwbqc.jpg.html)



:lol:

[PaulStewart]

Wow Bob, what an amazing life you must lead, nothing better to do than go on a forum on a Sunday morning and take the piss out of people enjoying a hobby. Or do do you live with someone who put a gun to your head and made you do it? What a numpty.

[Spectral Morn]

Wow Bob, what an amazing life you must lead, nothing better to do than go on a forum on a Sunday morning and take the piss out of people enjoying a hobby. Or do do you live with someone who put a gun to your head and made you do it? What a numpty.

+ 1

Frankly I am sick of this disrespectful attitude displayed all over audio forums.

What does this add to learning and understanding ? What does this add to folks getting more from their music collections ? What does this add to harmony and tolerance of varying opinions ? It adds nothing, zero, just stirs and creates bad feeling.

[cloth-ears]

Wow Bob, what an amazing life you must lead, nothing better to do than go on a forum on a Sunday morning and take the piss out of people enjoying a hobby. Or do do you live with someone who put a gun to your head and made you do it? What a numpty.

It’s called having a sense of humour. You should try it sometime instead of being rude

[Spectral Morn]

It’s called having a sense of humour. You should try it sometime instead of being rude

No Bob

It is you that are being rude. This is potentially offensive as it stirs and takes the piss out of folks who sit to the subjectavist side of things. Those who hear differences in cables etc. Frankly the use of the word placebo is something I personally dislike very intensely where smug objectavists piss all over valid listening experiences by inserting the placebo insult.

[Macca]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.

[Spectral Morn]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.

I have been accused of not having a sense of humour, not true I do, but in this I see a potential for flames not anything of light. I recall a few years ago a picture put up similar, but pandering to the stereotypical way men use gear and how women use gear, it ended in flames. The picture was of an amplifier with knobs and buttons labelled to reflect those stereotypes.

I see that picture as a piss take and insult to those who put listening first.

But if Paul and I are alone in thinking that, fair enough.

[r100]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.

1+

I am often taken aback on how sensitive some issues are in hifi... its sometimes like trying to discuss religion with certain people.

Another subject that generates rude remarks is the one about Ethernet / USB cables, DAC's and basically anything that was invented after the 1960's :lol: ok maybe 1980's (edit) :stalks:

[Marco]

For me, this sort of thing highlights how we all interpret what we see in front of us differently - and much will depend on mood... When I saw it, I laughed, so that was my reaction.

However, given the amount of piss-taking on forums, in reference to 'foo' (a word I hate intensely), because unlike 'placebo effect', which is a recognised and accepted phenomenon (although not always applicable where it's used), it's a purely derogatory term coined by those who simply won't accept that not everything that people genuinely hear can currently be measured, I can also understand Paul and Neil's reaction, as many folks are fed up having their valid observations automatically, and thus rudely dismissed as 'imagined'.

However, the key question is: did Bob mean any malice by posting what he did? I sincerely suspect not, and just thought it was something funny to post, to lighten up a dull Sunday morning, which unfortunately was taken the wrong way.

Am I right, Bob? :)

Marco.

[walpurgis]

I thought it amusing. I really can't see how it could be construed as insulting. It just looked a bit of fun to me.

[r100]

I sure he wasn't... come on, it is funny.. humans are prone to placebo effects. That is was differentiates us from robots who would just measure something in order to make a judgement. We are not fail safe but we can learn over time..

Anyways, for my part, I didn't take it personally..

[cloth-ears]

I have been accused of not having a sense of humour, not true I do, but in this I see a potential for flames not anything of light. I recall a few years ago a picture put up similar, but pandering to the stereotypical way men use gear and how women use gear, it ended in flames. The picture was of an amplifier with knobs and buttons labelled to reflect those stereotypes.

I see that picture as a piss take and insult to those who put listening first.

But if Paul and I are alone in thinking that, fair enough.


I believe the purpose of a forum is not to massage egos but to instead challenge beliefs in order to that people can have a more informed opinion. As a scientist I have spent my entire life challenging and testing theories.

I’m never offended when people challenge my opinions. If my argument is strong I will provable. If not then I’m willing to change and am always ready to embrace new ideas. I tend to find that people who throw their toys out of the pram at the slightest challenge don’t have a good argument in the first place.

[cloth-ears]

You are 100% correct Marco, just a bit of fun

[Spectral Morn]

For me, this sort of thing highlights how we all interpret what we see in front of us differently - and much will depend on mood... When I saw it, I laughed, so that was my initial reaction.

However, given the amount of piss-taking on forums, in reference to 'foo' (a word I hate intensely), because unlike 'placebo effect', which is a recognised and accepted phenomenon (although not always applicable to where it is applied), it's a purely derogatory term coined by those who simply won't accept that not everything that people genuinely hear can currently be measured, I can also understand Paul and Neil's reaction, as many folks are fed up having their valid observations rudely dismissed as 'imagined'.

However, the key question is: did Bob mean any malice by posting what he did? I sincerely suspect not, and just thought it was something funny to post, to lighten up a dull Sunday morning, which unfortunately was taken the wrong way.

Am I right, Bob? :)

Marco.

Precisely, not so much mine but just in general.

Whether Bob intended such or not is for me moot as the original creator more than likely was taking the piss. I can't imagine any other reason for creating such an image. I don't like the term foo either but it does fit some stuff out there. I have too often seen 'placebo' used in an insulting way, a way to silence and destroy folks valid listening based opinions.

I am not anti measurements, or science but I am against folks seeking to crush valid opinions by using words in an insulting way.

I want to know why folks can't hear stuff and others can, it fascinates me. I have never said - as far as I can recall - that folks who say they can't hear stuff are deluded, deaf etc. I accept they are not hearing what I might hear, or others hear, and I would like to know why that is. Complex subject but worthy of investigation.

[r100]

I believe the purpose of a forum is not to massage egos but to instead challenge beliefs in order to that people can have a more informed opinion. As a scientist I have spent my entire life challenging and testing theories.

I’m never offended when people challenge my opinions. If my argument is strong I will provable. If not then I’m willing to change and am always ready to embrace new ideas. I tend to find that people who throw their toys out of the pram at the slightest challenge don’t have a good argument in the first place.

I wish more people would think like you.. things like I.S. wouldn't exist. (sorry for the thread drift)

[Tarzan]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.


X2 Crickey it is just a bit of fun.:lol:

[cloth-ears]

I wish more people would think like you.. things like I.S. wouldn't exist. (sorry for the thread drift)

Thank you kind sir

[Marco]

You are 100% correct Marco, just a bit of fun

Thought so! :)

Marco.

[r100]

Wow Bob, what an amazing life you must lead, nothing better to do than go on a forum on a Sunday morning and take the piss out of people enjoying a hobby. Or do do you live with someone who put a gun to your head and made you do it? What a numpty.

that is not a funny remark imo.

[Spectral Morn]

You are 100% correct Marco, just a bit of fun

Sadly though you attacked Paul for expressing his view, rather than taking a step back and seeing that the image might just not be a laugh for some, and seen as an stirring/insulting thing.

My reaction was based on seeing that bigger picture and that the word placebo for me, as I feel was intended by the images creator, is used in an insulting way to take the piss of and shut subjectavists up.

[mik_rik]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/cloth_ears/plas_zpsukewwbqc.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/cloth_ears/media/plas_zpsukewwbqc.jpg.html)



:lol:

Wow ,it must be good ,the vol pot goes way past "11";)

[Spectral Morn]

I wish more people would think like you.. things like I.S. wouldn't exist. (sorry for the thread drift)

What, are you for real ? Within the audio world it is those who try to shut up and discredit subjective listening who come across like ISIS.

[StanleyB]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.
Are you suggesting that people who have spent several 4 or five figure sums on their hifi and record collection are taking their hobby too serious, and should instead divert their energy into something else?

[walpurgis]

I think this is best just swept under the rug. It does not warrant prolonged and intensive debate.

[Puffin]

Funny.

[mossy]

I want one with a walnut finish.

[Marco]

I think this is best just swept under the rug. It does not warrant prolonged and intensive debate.

+1 with bells on!!

Marco.

[orbscure]

I want one with a walnut finish.

I'm just waiting for it to be judiciously upgraded so as to give us the legendary AoS VFM ;)

[Macca]

Are you suggesting that people who have spent several 4 or five figure sums on their hifi and record collection are taking their hobby too serious, and should instead divert their energy into something else?

No :)

But a man who takes himself too seriously carries a very heavy burden...

[r100]

What, are you for real ? Within the audio world it is those who try to shut up and discredit subjective listening who come across like ISIS.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean but whatever it is you are trying to say, it doesn't sound very kind.

[BTH K10A]

Sadly though you attacked Paul for expressing his view, rather than taking a step back and seeing that the image might just not be a laugh for some, and seen as an stirring/insulting thing.

My reaction was based on seeing that bigger picture and that the word placebo for me, as I feel was intended by the images creator, is used in an insulting way to take the piss of and shut subjectavists up.

Given the OP's use of an appropriate emoticon the response was not expressing a view but was a personal attack on the OP. INHO totally unacceptable and also unacceptable that a mod should support it

[sq225917]

I love that some people think their viewpoint is so precious that its above discussion and making fun of. No idea or concept is holy, not art, science or religion. If your beliefs are so weak that they think them unable to survive some humour maybe you should find better ones- or get some perspective in your life.

Maybe go out and do some charity work or something similar, that'll put your middle class hifi troubles into perspective.

Or maybe make some humorous images that mock the measurists in our midst.

[narabdela]

Well I laughed. :)

Lighten up folks. It's miserable enough outside at the moment.

[ff1d1l]

I love that some people think their viewpoint is so precious that its above discussion and making fun of. No idea or concept is holy, not art, science or religion. If your beliefs are so weak that they think them unable to survive some humour maybe you should find better ones- or get some perspective in your life.

Maybe go out and do some charity work or something similar, that'll put your middle class hifi troubles into perspective.

Or maybe make some humorous images that mock the measurists in our midst.

+1...I thought the response disproportionate and inappropriate. Lighten up.

[cloth-ears]

Thanks to all those with a sense of humour. And for those without I’m pleased to say the Mk2 version is now available

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/cloth_ears/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/cloth_ears/media/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg.html)

[Gordon Steadman]

I'm astonished that the reaction to this should be in any way different to any other bit of piss taking. Volume to 11, male/female hi-fi design, etc. Good grief, if you can't take a bit of ribbing, I would suggest dumping the internet and going to live in a cave as a hermit somewhere. I thought the first two reactions by people who should know better were quite appalling.

Lighten up.

Cloth ears...keep them coming.

PS Love the Mark 11 as well.

Would this Jukebox be any different?

[cloth-ears]

I'm astonished that the reaction to this should be in any way different to any other bit of piss taking. Volume to 11, male/female hi-fi design, etc. Good grief, if you can't take a bit of ribbing, I would suggest dumping the internet and going to live in a cave as a hermit somewhere. I thought the first two reactions by people who should know better were quite appalling.

Lighten up.

Cloth ears...keep them coming.

PS Love the Mark 11 as well.

Would this Jukebox be any different?

Hi Ha, love it :lol:

[Spectral Morn]

Given the OP's use of an appropriate emoticon the response was not expressing a view but was a personal attack on the OP. INHO totally unacceptable and also unacceptable that a mod should support it

Clark

The use of a laughing emoticon, in the context of the image posted actually - for me - does nothing to defuse the images potential to cause offence and stir up bad feeling. In this case its not been the image so much, but Paul's response and mine that has caused issues :doh: :(

Bob has stated he mean't no harm - I accept that - but in my view his response to Paul showed rather two dimensional thinking re the possible outcome of posting this. Yes some will laugh, find it amusing, but others will find it to be what the image was originally intended to be an insult to those who hold views based on listening - which is my interpretation of the image. I took exception to the image.

There is an intolerance on many audio forums re those who express views on listening results, those who hear differences in contentious issues, interconnect/speaker cables, USB cables, CAT cables etc - fill in the blank - the usual stuff that brings the science and objectavist brigade out to insult, belittle, call delusional those who hear differences and express those. The word placebo is often used by those folks to try and paint hearers of differences as being fools easily deluded.

My views on this are strong and robust and I will defend them and others holding them, but I would prefer folks who can't hear differences to be more respectful, not use language in a way that is insulting and frankly they know full well that it is.

Paul's response was strong, too strong, but I understand it, and it was the gist of it that I supported not so much the too strong aspect, hence the + 1. However in my response I should have pulled him on that and I didn't - for that I am sorry.

Frankly I strongly dislike postings that in my view will kick off issues, for folks here and end up the same old same old way and on seeing that image that was my feeling, that it would cause some folks offence. Of course there are those who take the Frank Zappa view, poke everything, but I don't and I personally feel that some things are best tackled with tact and gently and that image doesn't.

My first forum was Zerogain, worst possible place for a subjectavist to go, I was attacked constantly and certain folks often used the 'placebo' word as an belittling insult and after being bullied relentlessly I eventually left and came here. I suppose my prickliness about this in part comes from that awful experience and also from my view that adults should be able to discuss things, and disagree without taking the piss and disrespecting peoples views and valid experiences.

So I am sorry if Bob felt I was also attacking him, but I wasn't my intention was just to call into question the wisdom of posting the image and I failed to do that in a way that played the ball, not the person posting. I see that by not pulling Paul that was the only interpretation folks could get. I allowed my personal offence of the image to get in the way of doing that aspect of being a mod, mod hat was off and it should not have been.

However the original intent though of the image, and I can't see it as anything other than an attack on folks who use listening as a basis for audio opinion, does not sit well with me or my personal sensibilities, and it does cause me a degree of offence and I don't think its funny. I accept others do, but I don't. Humour by pass, too tight, too serious...... take your pick, but that's how I see it.

Edit I now see a new image with new writing :doh: Intent seems clear now to insult people who are offended by image one.

[cloth-ears]

I was actually poking fun at myself a bit. Up until recently I firmly believed that FLAC or WAV was far superior to mp3. A colleague asked me if I could tell the difference in a blind test, up for a challenge I accepted. I was surprised to find that at the standard mp3 compression of 128 Kbit/s I was only about 90% accurate in identifying the difference but at a sample rate of 320 Kbit/s I was hard pushed to score above 60%. Perhaps it’s my age. Maybe Hi-Fy is only for young ears

[Spectral Morn]

I was actually poking fun at myself a bit. Up until recently I firmly believed that FLAC or WAV was far superior to mp3. A colleague asked me if I could tell the difference in a blind test, up for a challenge I accepted. I was surprised to find that at the standard mp3 compression of 128 Kbit/s I was only about 90% accurate in identifying the difference but at a sample rate of 320 Kbit/s I was hard pushed to score above 60%. Perhaps it’s my age. Maybe Hi-Fy is only for young ears

Music is for everyone, as is the way and means of listening to it.

[Gordon Steadman]

What gets me is than anybody could take a hobby - and hobby it is not life and death, try Paris - so damned seriously as to take offense at some harmless banter.

I'm nearly 69 years old and still play with toy cars....no, no, they are model engineering and it takes years of dedication and practice to achieve the standard I have reached, I pride myself on my driving skills. I still expect to have the piss taken and of course, it is quite right as the idea of a grown man taking slot racing SERIOUSLY is as laughable as someone getting insulted by being told they are listening, or not listening, as the case may be, to a particular TT, Amp or bit of wire and hearing something different to others.

I accept that others just can't see what possible enjoyment there could be. If they want to laugh, that really is fine. In what way exactly does that affect me? I have more than enough ego to tell them to bogoff and do their own thing. I might even think they are nuts, deluded, cracked whatever, sometimes I will even feel like expressing that opinion. However, I don't expect that opinion to have any effect at all and it shouldn't.

Just do your own thing so long as it does no harm to others. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me is an expression that could be usefully bought back into use.

[Clive197]

Now, now boys, shake hands, pick up all your toys and put them back in the pram and go enjoy yourselves on this dull Sunday afternoon. You could always watch the F1 race from Brazil which has lights out at 4pm on Sky sports. Oops have I started another row.:doh:

[mik_rik]

I'm astonished that the reaction to this should be in any way different to any other bit of piss taking. Volume to 11, male/female hi-fi design, etc. Good grief, if you can't take a bit of ribbing, I would suggest dumping the internet and going to live in a cave as a hermit somewhere. I thought the first two reactions by people who should know better were quite appalling.

Lighten up.

Cloth ears...keep them coming.

PS Love the Mark 11 as well.

Would this Jukebox be any different?

My post of volume to past 11 WAS meant as joke!

[cloth-ears]

My post of volume to past 11 WAS meant as joke!

And by me it was taken as one, go Spinal Tap

:)

[cloth-ears]

My post of volume to past 11 WAS meant as joke!

And by me it was taken as one, go Spinal Tap

:)

[mossy]

Thanks to all those with a sense of humour. And for those without I’m pleased to say the Mk2 version is now available

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/cloth_ears/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/cloth_ears/media/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg.html)

Still no bloody walnut version.

I am furious.

[mik_rik]

This mk11 version ,whats the difference[extra finish choice/battery powered or like a lot "improved" versions ,cheaper internals but increased price]

[cloth-ears]

Still no bloody walnut version.

I am furious.

It's on it's way but it costs £200.00 more as in wood it sounds better

[mikmas]

Thanks to all those with a sense of humour. And for those without I’m pleased to say the Mk2 version is now available

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/cloth_ears/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/cloth_ears/media/plas%20copy_zpszlp8sqxu.jpg.html)


I presume this comes with external PSUs for each channel?? Preferably costing more each than the amp, otherwise I'm not interested (nothing good can come out of cheap tat...)

[cloth-ears]

I presume this comes with external PSUs for each channel?? Preferably costing more each than the amp, otherwise I'm not interested (nothing good can come out of cheap tat...)

Goes without saying....................

[mik_rik]

Would have been interested in a battery version,but the wife said "no bloody way am I having two lorry batteries on a pallet in the living room even if they are behind the telly"will have to see if the council will let me put a wind turbine on the house[david cameron got one]

[mossy]

I have two lorry batteries built under my sofa.

No, I really do.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/mossypotty/P1080787_zpsjt0we6jq.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/mossypotty/media/P1080787_zpsjt0we6jq.jpg.html)

[mik_rik]

I have two lorry batteries built under my sofa.

No, I really do.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/mossypotty/P1080787_zpsjt0we6jq.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/mossypotty/media/P1080787_zpsjt0we6jq.jpg.html)

Didn't see that one coming :)

[wee tee cee]

Its not that bad an idea.....no honestly!!!

A head amp that emulates different amp characteristics!

How much would just the basic version come in at (don't need the wood finish)?

Had to laugh regards the battery comments-my dac and HPA run off a car battery in the cellar bellow my listening room (sounds great to my ears!!)

A bit of piss taking is always good to keep reality in check.

When we have get together s with grown men comparing bits of wire/components/plugs we always have a laugh at how strange the hobby is....all good fun and at the end of the day about enjoying and getting the most from your music.

[mossy]

a. all the music in the world via mp3 and ipod
b. 25 albums only on ANY system you devise

[Audio Advent]

For me, this sort of thing highlights how we all interpret what we see in front of us differently - and much will depend on mood... When I saw it, I laughed, so that was my reaction.

However, given the amount of piss-taking on forums, in reference to 'foo' (a word I hate intensely), because unlike 'placebo effect', which is a recognised and accepted phenomenon (although not always applicable where it's used), it's a purely derogatory term coined by those who simply won't accept that not everything that people genuinely hear can currently be measured, I can also understand Paul and Neil's reaction, as many folks are fed up having their valid observations automatically, and thus rudely dismissed as 'imagined'.

However, the key question is: did Bob mean any malice by posting what he did? I sincerely suspect not, and just thought it was something funny to post, to lighten up a dull Sunday morning, which unfortunately was taken the wrong way.

Am I right, Bob? :)

Marco.

I see it this way too. Whether a listener hears something because it is a real effect or because it is down to placebo effect should be investigated by all those it really effects and how much the placebo possibility bothers the person spending the money. And on a forum like this, people are free to speculate for their own passing of free time and building of knowledge

People will wrongly say it's a placebo effect and sometimes a heard effect will really be a placebo... To take offence at an established and real effect is to take offence at life itself and with the human condition. Best answer to that is to read some philosophy.

Now, whether the photo is meant to be offensive is another matter.

Still, the photo doesn't make much sense given the context of the options on the dial! It looks like its saying all amplifiers sound the same whether they use valves, mosfets, class-D or whatever. That is just deaf objectivism to the extreme and likely a load of nonsense. And it's in the wrong sub-forum if that's the case! So a poorly made joke I'm afraid ClothEars - sit at the back of the class for not thinking it through.

[Audio Advent]

A head amp that emulates different amp characteristics!

How would you cover up the sound of the head-amp itself?

All you could do would be present an exaggerated characature of typical distortions and errors in pooly made output designs so that that sound was more influential than the headamp's amp section itself.

[Audio Advent]

Now, now boys, shake hands, pick up all your toys and put them back in the pram and go enjoy yourselves on this dull Sunday afternoon. You could always watch the F1 race from Brazil which has lights out at 4pm on Sky sports. Oops have I started another row.:doh:

not 4am?

P.S. plenty of live streaming options out there, links provided by google search for those without sky. Might be sky broadcast or spanish commentary etc etc..

[wee tee cee]

How would you cover up the sound of the head-amp itself?

All you could do would be present an exaggerated characature of typical distortions and errors in pooly made output designs so that that sound was more influential than the headamp's amp section itself.Yup....spot on!! We all prefer different types of distortion.

[Audio Advent]

Yup....spot on!! We all prefer different types of distortion.

Then it wouldn't be an emulation of different types of design at all..

It would be an effects box with types of filtering which sound nothing like the amps in question but instead just named as such.

[Gordon Steadman]

Then it wouldn't be an emulation of different types of design at all..

It would be an effects box with types of filtering which sound nothing like the amps in question but instead just named as such.

I am suspicious that someone is taking this all rather seriously again rather something just done for a little light relief in these tedious times. If you analyse most humour to the nth degree it's going to fall down on logic somewhere.

Who give s stuff if his machine would work, not work, blow up if you switched it on or send you to paradise? It was funny. It was a joke. Try laughing.

[wee tee cee]

Ive been sold a pup....I thought it would have all the different configurations-my order is cancelled with immediate effect. Sorry Bob-hope it doesn't effect yer concept.

Was really swithering over the wood finish.

[walpurgis]

It was funny. It was a joke. Try laughing.

Agree. I can't figure out how it could have been taken as offensive.

[Gordon Steadman]

Ive been sold a pup....I thought it would have all the different configurations-my order is cancelled with immediate effect. Sorry Bob-hope it doesn't effect yer concept.

Was really swithering over the wood finish.

Oh ye of little faith.

If he had included a switch to overcome deafness without annoying the neighbours, I would have gone for it.

[Audio Advent]

I am suspicious that someone is taking this all rather seriously again rather something just done for a little light relief in these tedious times. If you analyse most humour to the nth degree it's going to fall down on logic somewhere.

Who give s stuff if his machine would work, not work, blow up if you switched it on or send you to paradise? It was funny. It was a joke. Try laughing.

Well.... look who's being grumpy now..

I'm just thinking out loud about the idea of a device, yes for my own entertainment! And people can join in with the verbal diarrhea if they want.

.... and analysing humour can be more funny than the humour itself, with the right people... err, not making any claims in this case though.

[Gordon Steadman]

Well.... look who's being grumpy now..

I'm just thinking out loud about the idea of a device, yes for my own entertainment! And people can join in with the verbal diarrhea if they want.

.... and analysing humour can be more funny than the humour itself, with the right people... err, not making any claims in this case though.

I would never deny being a grump. Given some of the previous reaction to this thread a smiley might have been a good idea:rolleyes::(:ner::steam::mental::cool:

[r100]

Sunday evening grumpiness I suspect ?:lol::eyebrows:

[Gordon Steadman]

Sunday evening grumpiness I suspect ?:lol::eyebrows:

Nah. Permanent and irreversible.

Actually, I am feeling more at peace with the world than usual tonight as I'm just recovering from some crap 24 hour virus that gave me 100 degree temperature and made me feel like a soggy mess. I'm on the di-codiene which pushes the world a way a bit a leaves a slightly fuzzy rosy glow:drugs:

[r100]

well, just enjoy the effect of the codeine :) while it lasts
all the best
ru

[Tarzan]

When is the MKIII version out?:lol:

[Tim]

Too funny, both the OP and some of the replies - even brought me out of 'lurkdom' to comment.

Some folk should get out a little more ;)

[Oldpinkman]

It's hard to avoid the conclusion that some avatars and usernames are stunningly appropriate. It's so long ago now I forget, but did we choose them, or were they allocated? :)

[Marco]

Too funny, both the OP and some of the replies - even brought me out of 'lurkdom' to comment.


Why were you in "lurkdom" to start with, daftee? I promise that I won't slag off your Timbo bib again! :D

Marco.

[CageyH]

I would never deny being a grump. Given some of the previous reaction to this thread a smiley might have been a good idea:rolleyes::(:ner::steam::mental::cool:

I never had you down as a curmudgeon. :ner:

[r100]

It's hard to avoid the conclusion that some avatars and usernames are stunningly appropriate. It's so long ago now I forget, but did we choose them, or were they allocated? :)

i knew you would love mine !

[Gordon Steadman]

I never had you down as a curmudgeon. :ner:


You have no idea.

I always try and be on my best behaviour when Alan and Shirley are here. You just got the peripheral benefit:mad:

[Barry]

Too funny, both the OP and some of the replies - even brought me out of 'lurkdom' to comment.

Some folk should get out a little more ;)


Hi Tim,

Good to see you 'popping' in. Don't leave it so long next time! :)

[CageyH]

You have no idea.

I always try and be on my best behaviour when Alan and Shirley are here. You just got the peripheral benefit:mad:

:lol:

The cottage pie was great too.

[Tim]

Why were you in "lurkdom" to start with, daftee? I promise that I won't slag off your Timbo bib again! :D

Marco.

Haha, typical reply from the king of daftees! ;)


Hi Tim,

Good to see you 'popping' in. Don't leave it so long next time! :)

Just been busy playing music and gigging guys. Dropped off the radar from both my regular forums for awhile and had rather a lot on during the past year, so kind of got out of the habit. Being content just playing music I guess? I did buy a Techie 1210 mind you, but still yet to use it!

[Marco]

I did buy a Techie 1210 mind you, but still yet to use it!

Ha - she got you in the end... ;)

Does it work?

Marco.

[Joe]

Well I think it's funny. Taking this hobby too seriously is a good way to lose all the enjoyment from it.

Indeed. Some people need to get a grip FFS, or, if using Decca cartridges, ffss.

[Joe]

Ive been sold a pup....

Surely a pup would be a sub-woofer?

[Joe]

Humour's a strange thing. If I tell a joke and one person laughs and another doesn't, does the laughing person have a good sense of humour, or is he/she just easily amused, or just being polite? Does the non-laughing person lack a sense of humour, or were they not listening properly, or was it just a crap joke?

I don't see how anyone can be offended by a picture of a mythical piece of hifi (there's plenty of real examples out there that are actually more offensive in terms of customer rip-off, or unscientific bullshit). And, closer to home, the long-running three words daily thread could well offend those who are offended by rude words, but I don't see anyone campaigning to have that thread locked and deleted.

So, all in all, a lot of fuss about nothing very much, to which of course I am adding.

[Joe]

a. all the music in the world via mp3 and ipod
b. 25 albums only on ANY system you devise

Well, a, obviously. It's weird to think that when I was a lad, i.e. before I got a job, our family LP collection numbered around 25 albums, and that seemed plenty, despite the fact that every LP was listened to countless times, to the point where you knew exactly where the needle was going to get stuck or jump a groove.

[Gordon Steadman]

Humour's a strange thing. If I tell a joke and one person laughs and another doesn't, does the laughing person have a good sense of humour, or is he/she just easily amused, or just being polite? Does the non-laughing person lack a sense of humour, or were they not listening properly, or was it just a crap joke?

I don't see how anyone can be offended by a picture of a mythical piece of hifi (there's plenty of real examples out there that are actually more offensive in terms of customer rip-off, or unscientific bullshit). And, closer to home, the long-running three words daily thread could well offend those who are offended by rude words, but I don't see anyone campaigning to have that thread locked and deleted.

So, all in all, a lot of fuss about nothing very much, to which of course I am adding.

Yes indeed - you stirrer!

Humour is very simple. If I find it funny, it's funny.

[r100]

So, all in all, a lot of fuss about nothing very much, to which of course I am adding.

well, that last part of your sentence made me smile :)

[Macca]

I'd take the 25 albums and the ultimate system.

Maybe...

[Joe]

I'd take the 25 albums and the ultimate system.

Maybe...

The thing is, I know my 25 favourite albums off by heart; I can 'play' them in my head without needing to listen to them. So essentially I'd need to choose 25 that I know less well, and which might bore me to tears after a few listens. Plus of course on a desert island speaker placement would be a nightmare.

[mossy]

Back in 1988 when I bought my CD player, I had just the one cd to play on it:lol:

[Macca]

. Plus of course on a desert island speaker placement would be a nightmare.

As would finding a plug socket. But if you did at least the mains supply would be pretty clean.

[Joe]

Back in 1988 when I bought my CD player, I had just the one cd to play on it:lol:

Back in 1992 when I bought my first CD player, I didn't have any CDs. The opposite was the case when I bought my first record, as we didn't have a record player!

[Haselsh1]

I think this is best just swept under the rug. It does not warrant prolonged and intensive debate.

Well and truly agree with this sentiment even though I thought the original post was chuckle worthy.

[jandl100]

I saw the OP as amusing - but without any doubt in my mind at all it was also intended as a wind up.
So I see it as a smile with a sneering edge.
I can understand why some people took offence, given who posted the image.

Just my 2p worth.

[Wakefield Turntables]

FFS I'm grabbing my coat and going for a pint, life's too short for this.... :rolleyes:

[Tarzan]

FFS I'm grabbing my coat and going for a pint, life's too short for this.... :rolleyes:

Good man.:cool:

[Tim]

Ha - she got you in the end... ;)

Does it work?

Marco.
Just noticed I never replied to this whilst doing some house keeping - well it did when I was discussing it's purchase with the seller, but it's never been out of it's box since I got it home! Doubt I will get it running for sometime now.

(relates to post #79 and my purchase of a Technics SL-1210)