Help, my Pi is broken!

[HackneyRF]

Hi all

I think I'm in need of some guidance from you wise heads out there as my Pi has stopped working and I'm a bit dim with the technical stuff . I thought I'd have a go installing Volumio to see if it was any better than Runeaudio. This is what I did....

First I unplugged it all, undid the case and slipped out the SD card. Next I installed Win32DiskImager on the laptop. Then I downloaded Volumio to the laptop. I then plugged in the SD card to the reader. I think then the mistake I made then was to not extract Volumio from its zip file before trying to mount it to the SD card. A message popped up to say something like 'you need to format this drive before you can use it'? I cancelled it and stopped what I was doing. I safely ejected the SD card. I put the SD card back into the Pi.

I then got zilch!

The Pi powers up OK but I'm not able to see Runeaudio on the network any longer. I also saw that my USB drive no longer lights up when plugged in and the two lights for the router no longer work, but maybe thats of no consequence?

What do you think ladies and gents? Have I wiped the SD card by mistake? Do I need to start from scratch? For which I may ask for help again. In AoS we trust!

The good news is I'm very happily playing records only today and Coventry City won again this afternoon.

Many thanks in advance of any help

Loz

[struth]

Yes you will have corrupted it. Re format it on pc then install your choice of program... Volumio or I'd say moode... extract folder from zip first then use win32disc imager...(make sure you have the right drive as well) should then just be a matter of set up, of which moode is a fair bit easier as you dont need an hdmi cable and a keyboard.

[The Black Adder]

Hi Loz.

Yes, sounds like you need to re-install it on the SD card. Remember, if you were using wifi, you will need to set it up with the Ethernet cable plugged in.

Cheers
Jo

[HackneyRF]

Thanks Jo and Grant

So to be sure, I need to reinstall the operating system again right? Raspbian etc, then install Moode?

Cheers

Loz

[struth]

Dunno what raspberian is .. I just have moode on card. Its all i need.

[HackneyRF]

Umm....OK. I'm probably wrong only I thought the software i.e. Moode, needs a platform/operating system to work from. I'll give that a go though Grant.

Thanks

[struth]

Not on the sd card Loz. Just moode..current version is 2.3. All ser uo via its interface using you tablet or pc browser. You need it connected via a ethernet cable

[The Black Adder]

Hi Loz. No need for Raspbian, just Moode, Volumio etc.

I thought that at first too... makes sense in a way having an OS on the SD card but all it needs is the software image.

[HackneyRF]

I see now. Just been reading online how to do it Grant. Looks so much more straight forward. Will let you know how it goes. Ta

Loz

[HackneyRF]

Hi Loz. No need for Raspbian, just Moode, Volumio etc.

I thought that at first too... makes sense in a way having an OS on the SD card but all it needs is the software image.

Thanks Jo, I'm starting to get it.

[Rothchild]

Volumio is a Rasbian distro (which in turn is simply derived from Debian's 'ArmHF' version (Debian (https://www.debian.org/) being one of the kings of free software)) they just offer some specific pre-loaded packages and configuration files - anyone who could be bothered could turn their Rasbian install into volumio by using the packages and configuration files from their github repository.

It seems that all these hifi flavours (moode, rune, volumio) are just tweaked versions of MPD (with libspotify for spotify access) on fairly vanila raspbian distros.

But yes as Josie points out you don't need to worry about that, just need one image to get you going. I would add though that I never seem to have any luck unless I freshly format the sd card (as FAT32) before writing an image to it.

[HackneyRF]

OK folks, an update. I'm losing the will a bit. Can't seem to get any of it working correctly.

I formatted the SD card. That was ok. 32gb card. I wrote the Moode img file to the SD card using win32diskimager. Put the card back in the Pi. Plugged in Ethernet cable. Powered up. Couldn't find Moode on any device. So decided to try Volumio. Installed it fine. Got Spotify to work but couldn't get it to see my library of music on the USB drive. I'm thinking of just trying to go back to Runeaudio now.

I have also noticed that the SD card now shows a total capacity of 70mb! It's a 32gb card. Any ideas?
I realise there is light at the end of the tunnel with this as lots of people are using and enjoying it but it's a bit frustrating to be honest.

Cheers folks

Loz

[struth]

Tim Curtis has just joined Loz. he is the man behind Moode so ask him a question as to what he thinks is the problem

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?40933-Hi-from-Moode-Audio&p=692203#post692203


Not sure where its gone wrong tbh. was the card completely clear and formatted to fat32? sounds like there is more than one program on the card or there is a problem with it. I only use an 8gb one. sounds to me like the sd card is ot written right or there were conflicts. Worth persevering as when it gets sorted you will get the benefits

[HackneyRF]

Just saw that Grant. 😊
I'll persevere with it. It'll be a good learning exercise.

[Rothchild]

When you write an image file for a Pi the SD card will get split in to 2 partitions, one of about 70meg that's the boot partition (tells the Pi how to boot and what to load etc) and then the other partition will hold the OS - most of the distros now either automatically or have an option to 'inflate' the second partition to the remaining space of the card (DietPi does it automatically on its first boot).

You might not be seeing the second partition on your laptop if it's a windows machine, I've not checked but I suspect it's probably formatted to an open source format (Ext3 or sommit) which Windows refuses to read.

[struth]

These are the carsd I have been using and seem pretty good. I us an sd adaptor into a us to sd card adaptor rather than a card reader as such.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0052WQS9I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

[HackneyRF]

When you write an image file for a Pi the SD card will get split in to 2 partitions, one of about 70meg that's the boot partition (tells the Pi how to boot and what to load etc) and then the other partition will hold the OS - most of the distros now either automatically or have an option to 'inflate' the second partition to the remaining space of the card (DietPi does it automatically on its first boot).

You might not be seeing the second partition on your laptop if it's a windows machine, I've not checked but I suspect it's probably formatted to an open source format (Ext3 or sommit) which Windows refuses to read.

Thanks for the reply Marc. I wonder then is there a way to get back the partition I can't see?

[struth]

You could format it in fat 32. I just do the quick format and see its on fat 32. (if it is on another format)

[HackneyRF]

Found a nifty little program called SDFormatter. Job done.

Thanks guys.

Loz

[HackneyRF]

I'm getting there!

I have managed to get Moode working i think. Was a great feeling to hear Don Letts on 6 Music come through the speakers. Now just trying to get Moode to see the USB drive. It's updating! Might have to leave for the evening now. Early start.

Thanks again Grant, Jo and Marc

Cheers

Loz

[struth]

I'm getting there!

I have managed to get Moode working i think. Was a great feeling to hear Don Letts on 6 Music come through the speakers. Now just trying to get Moode to see the USB drive. It's updating! Might have to leave for the evening now. Early start.

Thanks again Grant, Jo and Marc

Cheers

Loz

It shouldnt take more that 5 mins or so unless there is a huge amount of music on it. If its not self powered or on a powered hub then there may be a problem. might have to alter things. if you have under 5000 tracks and its not finished in say 10 mins then it probably has not got enough power from pi

[mikmas]

It shouldnt take more that 5 mins or so unless there is a huge amount of music on it.

I always get problems loading the Moode library from USB first time after a card rewrite, can last forever ... usually sorts itself after a reboot or two. Never had that problem with Volumio at all.

[struth]

Ive got 5.5k tracks on my powered hdd and it takes about the time for me to make a coffee or thereabouts. first time I did it with a non powered one it just said updating and the hdd light flashed but there was as I found after 30 mins no info sent and it was not able to spin the disc.
The pi hut hub is worth getting..its a very nicely made bit of kit

[HackneyRF]

I have 16000 songs on the drive. Quite a bit. Still I don't think it's going to work presently. Tried several times. Maybe it needs the powered hub as you say Grant. I can see that I'm going to like the UI already. I like the look/feel of it.

[struth]

I have 16000 songs on the drive. Quite a bit. Still I don't think it's going to work presently. Tried several times. Maybe it needs the powered hub as you say Grant. I can see that I'm going to like the UI already. I like the look/feel of it.

Thats 3 times mine so 15 to 25 mins i would think. A pi hub should sort it
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B0ZOCPS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

[mikeyb]

Hi,

Make sure when adding the drive within the NAS settings page that you get a green tick, this let's you know that you ever the correct naming of where the files are kept.

If you get a red x then its wrong and it won't find anything.

Not sure if that helps, mine took about 10-15 minutes first time to find just over 10,000 files.

Mike.

[HackneyRF]

OK, now we're talking! Thanks a million everyone. Did a bit searching on Computer Audiophile forum where Tim Curtis has a strong prescence. On page 8...

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/moode-audio-player-raspberry-pi-23858/index8.html

I read something discussing (2) Moode System config has "Max USB current 2X" setting for self powered drives. Went back to Moode and into the settings where I changed it over. Then updated the MPD Data Base. Bingo! there was my USB drive and its folders. Went to the library and there was all my music. And I mean all of it as far as I can see. I say that because Rune Audio was missing lots of it. So far so good. Playback is very good indeed on first listen. I hope I have turned a corner with the set up as it certainly seems to be an impressive player. Lets see.

Thanks again to everyone for their input and help

Cheers for now

Loz

[struth]

Had read somewhere you could do that but didnt know if it worked. Prefer to use external power for it but will be good to know how it behaves foryou Loz

[HackneyRF]

So far so good Grant. Will keep you all posted if it's not happy.

Cheers

Loz