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Andrei
17-09-2015, 23:41
Not in working order but the price is right. http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/home-audio/turntables/auction-949448202.htm
Does anyone have ideas / guesses as to how difficult it may be to correct the speed?

Ali Tait
18-09-2015, 06:39
Would depend how good your electronic knowledge is I guess, may or may not be a simple fix. Nick Gorham (Lurcher) on here has good knowledge of these.

NRG
18-09-2015, 07:29
There are a number of things that could cause the lack of speed control on the SP10, you would really need to know what you are doing or know somebody who does....however, what would put me off is the word 'modified'! That could mean anything and if it relates to the electronics I would avoid it....

Marco
18-09-2015, 08:08
I'd steer clear, Andrei, as you could end up inheriting a whole world of problems - and worse, end up with an expensive ornament....

Spend the money instead on further upgrading your 1210, as suitably modified, it has the potential to outperform any stock SP10. I know that myself from experience :)

Marco.

Stratmangler
18-09-2015, 10:38
I've found out what the Krebs modification bit relates to http://www.krebsupgrade.com/index.html

Marco
18-09-2015, 10:56
Yeah, the modifications have been so effective, they've broken it! :doh: :D

In saying that, I love how some of the SP10s there have been mounted. This one in the polished black plinth, with a Graham arm fitted, is utterly gorgeous:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg


Pure and utter panty-wetting material!! :stalks: :stalks: :eek: :drool: :drool:

Marco.

Spectral Morn
18-09-2015, 11:05
In saying that, I love how some of the SP10s there have been mounted. This one in the polished black plinth, with a Graham arm fitted, is utterly gorgeous:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg


Pure and utter panty-wetting material!! :stalks: :stalks: :eek: :drool: :drool:

Marco.

That does look very nice.

I would offer him $400 (value of the plinth at a guess) and worst case scenario if you can't fix it you might breakeven on the plinth, Jarrah wood is lovely. However the opening bid that seller wants is crazy in my opinion. The risk here is massive and getting spares for vintage decks isn't easy and is costly. So if that is his firm opening price, walk on by is my advice too.



Regards Neil

Marco
18-09-2015, 11:10
That does look very nice.


Aesthetically, it ticks all the boxes for me: nice clean lines, beautifully finished, and no bling or superficial frippery in sight! :)

Marco.

TheMooN
18-09-2015, 14:12
Yeah, the modifications have been so effective, they've broken it! :doh: :D

In saying that, I love how some of the SP10s there have been mounted. This one in the polished black plinth, with a Graham arm fitted, is utterly gorgeous:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg


Pure and utter panty-wetting material!! :stalks: :stalks: :eek: :drool: :drool:

Marco.



Errrr, that's a Technics SH-10B3 Obsidian base, sans lid, twas available as an accessory item for SP10 motor units or as standard in the complete SL-1000 MKII package.

Marco
18-09-2015, 14:24
Lol - is it? Well, if it is, it looks bloody nice! :)

Marco.

Barry
18-09-2015, 16:03
Errrr, that's a Technics SH-10B3 Obsidian base, sans lid, twas available as an accessory item for SP10 motor units or as standard in the complete SL-1000 MKII package.

Err, not quite:

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M5e2c228b71e92905ab47e2e800636e80o0&pid=15.1

Perhaps later versions of the plinth dispensed with the chamfered edges.

Actually I find it hard to believe the plinth was made of obsidian, which is volcanic glass. Quite commonly occuring in Nature, though not in pieces that large?

NRG
18-09-2015, 16:17
I've found out what the Krebs modification bit relates to http://www.krebsupgrade.com/index.html

Reads like a load of hogwash to me Chris ;) who would have thunk it, cleaning the bearing results in such an incredible improvement :scratch:

TheMooN
18-09-2015, 16:33
Err, not quite:

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M5e2c228b71e92905ab47e2e800636e80o0&pid=15.1

Perhaps later versions of the plinth dispensed with the chamfered edges.

Actually I find it hard to believe the plinth was made of obsidian, which is volcanic glass. Quite commonly occuring in Nature, though not in pieces that large?


Errrrr not really, If you look closely, particularly the right side as you view it, you may discern the chamfered edge on the image of what is most certainly a Technics plinth.
You are Partially correct with regard to the material intrinsic to the SH- series of plinths in that Technics developed their own proprietary compound containing powdered obsidian, the units were then pressure moulded and finished to a high lustre, were one unfortunate enough to chip the gloss black surface the body of the casting underneath the surface is a mid grey in hue.

Barry
18-09-2015, 17:30
Errrrr not really, If you look closely, particularly the right side as you view it, you may discern the chamfered edge on the image of what is most certainly a Technics plinth.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg vs. https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M5e2c228b71e92905ab47e2e800636e80o0&pid=15.1

Hmmm - I'm not convinced, (looking at the left hand edge and the distance between the edge of the SP10 and that of the plinth), but I'll leave it to others to decide.

TheMooN
18-09-2015, 19:05
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/6n8S2t.jpg vs. https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M5e2c228b71e92905ab47e2e800636e80o0&pid=15.1

Hmmm - I'm not convinced, (looking at the left hand edge and the distance between the edge of the SP10 and that of the plinth), but I'll leave it to others to decide.


You are seeing a slight optical illusion given that the left hand side of the plinth is nearer the camera, look at the chamfered angle of the motor unit which continues into the chamfered profile of the obsidian plinth after the slight 1cm flat area directly in contact with the motor unit.

Barry, I am not entirely sure why you are being so pedantic on a subject that by your own disclosure is not your area of expertise yet continue to question my own affirmation that this ***IS A TECHNICS OBSIDIAN PLINTH***

Barry
18-09-2015, 19:46
You are seeing a slight optical illusion given that the left hand side of the plinth is nearer the camera, look at the chamfered angle of the motor unit which continues into the chamfered profile of the obsidian plinth after the slight 1cm flat area directly in contact with the motor unit.

Barry, I am not entirely sure why you are being so pedantic on a subject that by your own disclosure is not your area of expertise yet continue to question my own affirmation that this ***IS A TECHNICS OBSIDIAN PLINTH***

Oops! It's simply that they do look different to me. Yes, it probably is an optical illusion - I'll say no more, save to say the obsidian plinth looks lovely.

Regards

Marco
18-09-2015, 20:04
Perhaps it's just an optical illusion, or the camera angle, but for me, the plinth on the left (from Krebsupgrade) looks rather more highly polished....

Marco.

struth
18-09-2015, 20:08
looks the same to me. there is a dark black section running most of the length which makes you think the side is smaller than it is on the left one

Andrei
18-09-2015, 23:21
There are a number of things that could cause the lack of speed control on the SP10, you would really need to know what you are doing or know somebody who does....however, what would put me off is the word 'modified'! That could mean anything and if it relates to the electronics I would avoid it....


I'd steer clear, Andrei, as you could end up inheriting a whole world of problems - and worse, end up with an expensive ornament....

Spend the money instead on further upgrading your 1210, as suitably modified, it has the potential to outperform any stock SP10. I know that myself from experience :)
Marco.

I will give it a miss. I don't mind dealing with problems or throwing dosh at it but I think you guys are right - both the nature of the problem and the amount of dosh are unknown.

TheMooN
19-09-2015, 09:32
Oops! It's simply that they do look different to me. Yes, it probably is an optical illusion - I'll say no more, save to say the obsidian plinth looks lovely.

Regards

My apologies if that came over as a tad acerbic Barry, in certain lights and at certain angles.

TheMooN
22-09-2015, 07:36
Not it a bad You Tube ( not mine )featuring the SH plinth complete with removable cover.

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Of course the complete retail SL-1000 MKII package would have included the EPA 100 Tonearm viz:

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Marco
22-09-2015, 08:07
Sounds great - nice system! :)

Marco.