4K TV

[struth]

I see Aldi are getting 4k tvs in on sunday if anyone is interested. 40" for £300. sounds like a good price

[Spectral Morn]

I see Aldi are getting 4k tvs in on sunday if anyone is interested. 40" for £300. sounds like a good price

:eek:

That seems way too cheap for 4K - shakes head in shock and disbelief - only a year ago a 4K Sony was about £3000


Regards Neil

[Barry]

:eek:

That seems way too cheap for 4K - shakes head in shock and disbelief - only a year ago a 4K Sony was about £3000


Regards Neil

Yep - seems suspiciously cheap. At the risk of sounding like a sinophobe - the sets are probably made in China, so their reliability will be questionable. (I have had a string of 'region free' DVD players, all made in China, and all have developed fatal problems after 18 months. Now have a Toshiba and it seems to be holding up.)

[struth]

Thought it was cheap too. I guess there will be a huge queue so get up early if you want one. No use to me.

[struth]

Heres is the ad.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/sun-13-sep/product-detail/ps/p/40-4k-ultra-hd-tv/

[trio leo]

I bought a 4k UHD telly last year, Samsung, about £700, what bloody use it is I have no idea,I was told I was future proofing my viewing, bollocks!!! the damn thing is just a telly, what am I supposed to expect from this toy, or will it be obselete before the broadcasts catch up?


Damn progress :(


cheers Al

[mikmas]

Heres is the ad.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/sun-13-sep/product-detail/ps/p/40-4k-ultra-hd-tv/

... also advertising Bombardier at £1.25 a pint ... know which I'm going for :lol:

[rubber duck]

Yep - seems suspiciously cheap. At the risk of sounding like a sinophobe - the sets are probably made in China, so their reliability will be questionable. (I have had a string of 'region free' DVD players, all made in China, and all have developed fatal problems after 18 months. Now have a Toshiba and it seems to be holding up.)

Says free 3-year warranty...

[Barry]

Says free 3-year warranty...

So that means problems are likely to arise after 40 months.

[struth]

Hard to say what the reliability will be. Tvs are usually pretty good but itll depend on the changes in tech. The boy had one of theirs for quite somm time and it was good

[wee tee cee]

Bought a new telly last week. Spoke to the guy in Richer sounds, he said the 4k tellies in my budget had a poor refresh rate and would be OK but not great. Stood staring at all the pictures trying to decide what looked best to my eyes. Plumped for an LG. I ran a 42 inch LG for maybe six years now and couldnt fault it with blu ray. The Led that has replaced it is night and day better picture wise-all the smart features are bamboozling me but its a pleasure watching a film on disk.
Mother in law gladly accepted the old telly.

[archiesdad]

Heard on the radio today that 8k tellys are to be available this year, unfortunately can't remember which manufacturer, a budget brand seems to ring a bell though.

[Barry]

But apart from watching BluRay discs, is anyone broadcasting TV to this quality?

[archiesdad]

I rather think I need an eye upgrade to appreciate these pictures, after all I thought HD was great.

[julesd68]

Ultra HD 4k blu-ray players supposedly in shops for Xmas...

Amazon and Netflix have launched 4k streaming. Not much point in buying a 4k TV until more content available and also the TV's will change specs in the meantime...

[lovejoy]

But apart from watching BluRay discs, is anyone broadcasting TV to this quality?

There is just one 4K broadcast at the moment and that's an Astra test channel broadcasting from the Astra 28.2 (i.e. the one you get Freesat and Sky from) satellite. It is absolutely stunning on a good 4K TV and puts Netflix 4K to shame. Have to say I've been singularly unimpressed with the Netflix 4K quality so far, it's barely discernable from decent 1080, but then if you look at the data-rates they are way lower than the average BluRay disc anyway. 4K BluRay should be pretty interesting when it arrives. The increase in resolution is the least interesting thing about the 4K format though, it's the increased colour gamut, HDR and boosts to brightness levels that make it really interesting, and a £300 4K TV isn't going to give you any of that.

[Jac Hawk]

I've said it before, but here we go again it's UHD not 4k. Anyway mini rant over, the thing is the technology is advancing so fast it's difficult to know what to do, only a short time ago 3D was going to be the 'next big thing' and look where that is now. All i'll say is if the tv you have is on it's way out, then get the latest / best you can afford.

Some of the new stuff coming out soon will be the game changer, LG have showcased their latest 1mm thick "wallpaper" screen, it may not be quite the finished article just yet but it's definitely the future

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/10/article-2688061-1F8DDA7E00000578-845_634x470.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/20/00/28E0B94000000578-0-image-a-1_1432079155392.jpg

[Jac Hawk]

2 things

1st 4K bluray will be called redray
2nd as i've said in another post, to enable them to broadcast in 4k the the colour palette is reduced otherwise the bandwidth needed is immense

Like with other things, technology doesn't all advance at the same speed

[Barry]

I've said it before, but here we go again it's UHD not 4k.

The term "UHD" covers both 4K and 8K, therefore in the context of the thread, 4K is correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Television

[trio leo]

UHD, VHD, ULTRA 8 K UHD . who gives a toss, I had a perfectly good CRT telly, the box in the corner that gave me pictures, I spent £700 1 year ago and since then I have not seen ANYTHING in any kind of HD, I feel totally ripped off, and I guess when they decide to broadcast anything better, my super slimline modern display unit will be obselete.

PISSED OFF!!! YOU BET I AM.

cheers Al :steam:

[Barry]

I'm still using a Mitsubishi CRT telly. It's so old, it doesn't even have a SCART socket. But the picture and the colour fidelity in particular, put most modern flat screen tellys to shame. The only thing they have going for them is resolution and detail.

[julesd68]

I watched 'The Life of Pi' on a friend's Ultra HD curved Samsung last week and the problem is that at the moment it that the screen is just too good. Like any good hi-fi source, it ruthlessly shows up deficiency in what you feed it. The film was 1080p but it made the HD that the film was shot on look very amateur indeed and showed up all its shortcomings. HD is still nowhere near competing with well-shot 35mm but it's here to stay due to economics. At times it felt a bit like watching a documentary, such was the 'video' feel of it all. The dynamic range of HD still leaves a lot to be desired and the motion blur in some fast moving shots nearly made me feel sick at times. Worst of all, it destroyed what is obviously a seriously effects heavy film - I could just about see every layer in all the composite FX shots, all the edges were obvious. It would have looked much better on my old 1080p screen - the UHD screen was resolving so much detail, none of the FX bedded in properly. I've spent thousands of hours in edit suites so I may be more attuned to it than a lot of people but my friend spotted the same issues as well. HD quality still needs to up its game. I would have loved to have seen a 4K blu-ray of Lawrence of Arabia (shot 70mm) and then we might see some something wondrous.

[The Black Adder]

I actually prefer a good CRT picture. So long as it's 100hz. IMO LCD screens are worse for your eyes.

One day... Maybe one day CRT screens will make a comeback but in a more updated guise.

[Gazjam]

Something overlooked by a lot of people is the importance of getting your TV properly calibrated.
That and proper bias lighting can make a huge improvement.
If you've spend £££ on a large screen your not seeing what its capable of IMO until you do.

Agree on the more open window showing up deficiencies in source video.
A good upscaler and video processing can help though.


Happily still on 1080P here and will be until large 4K screens are more affordable.
65"+ OLED 4K's the magic number for me.

[julesd68]

Absolutely, I suspect that the vast majority of TV's aren't set up properly whether 4k or not ...

[Jac Hawk]

Just seen the new Professional range of Monitors from NEC, how's about a 98" LED 4K display for watching your latest movies on, only 2 problems, 1st it has to be mounted on a load bearing wall (it's weight will pull over a stud partition) and secondly it costs £29k, but if that doesn't phase you :wow: it's stunning.

[Gazjam]

Wonder how much I could flog a kidney for....

[Jac Hawk]

Wonder how much I could flog a kidney for....

I thought about prostituting myself, but then i looked in the mirror :eek: and thought better of it

[Ali Tait]

Not much after NEBO.. :-)

[walpurgis]

how's about a 98" LED 4K display for watching your latest movies on

Nah! Wouldn't want a screen that big. You'd break your neck watching tennis. :)

[brian2957]

Not much after NEBO.. :-)

:lol:

[Gazjam]

My kidneys fine, the livers sitting beside me drinking a black coffee.. :lol: