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Oddball
18-08-2015, 12:30
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/four-killed-string-gorings-spanish-bull-runs-093500541.html#cbQAM0s

Serves them right ,silly b**gers:mental:

Audio Al
18-08-2015, 13:33
Good , Hope they ban this ridiculous event , Play silly games and this is the reality

mikeyb
18-08-2015, 14:29
Good , Hope they ban this ridiculous event , Play silly games and this is the reality
Why, let the bulls have their fun [emoji6]

mikeyb
18-08-2015, 14:30
Why, let the bulls have their fun [emoji6]

'Mon the bulls [emoji202]

struth
18-08-2015, 14:52
Its an unusual occurance for folk to be killed and upto till this year only 15 folk were killed in over 100 years i think. maybe time to call a day to this tradition. not that they will.

Marco
18-08-2015, 16:16
I have zero sympathy for these idiots. C'mon on the bulls! :yesbruv:

Can't abide animals being abused like that, simply to 'entertain' humans. An outdated tradition that should now be outlawed, as far as I'm concerned.

Marco.

RobbieGong
18-08-2015, 16:43
I have zero sympathy for these idiots. C'mon on the bulls! :yesbruv:

Can't abide animals being abused like that, simply to 'entertain' humans. An outdated tradition that should now be outlawed, as far as I'm concerned.

Marco.

Yep, and that's the problem with man / people, rooted in tradition so they wont / dont give up on outdated, unnecessary things, because of 'tradition' :scratch: :rolleyes:

Tarzan
18-08-2015, 17:21
I have zero sympathy for these idiots. C'mon on the bulls! :yesbruv:

Can't abide animals being abused like that, simply to 'entertain' humans. An outdated tradition that should now be outlawed, as far as I'm concerned.

Marco.


x2 They deserve all they get and then some.:steam:

Joe
18-08-2015, 17:40
Still, at least they weren't taking selfies. Or were they?

Marco
18-08-2015, 18:46
x2 They deserve all they get and then some.:steam:

Bollox, innit? Keep them captive for days, and release them to crowds to be the 'object of attention' instead, giving them a good beating in the process, and see how they like it!

Marco.

Marco
18-08-2015, 18:47
Still, at least they weren't taking selfies. Or were they?

The bull had the last laugh! ;)

Marco.

awkwardbydesign
18-08-2015, 18:53
Yep, and that's the problem with man / people, rooted in tradition so they wont / dont give up on outdated, unnecessary things, because of 'tradition' :scratch: :rolleyes:

Do you mean hi-fi? :scratch:

Macca
18-08-2015, 19:07
People die climbing Everest almost every year, should we ban that too?

Marco
18-08-2015, 19:09
Don't see the connection, Martin. We're talking about the unfair exploitation/abuse of animals.

Marco.

Joe
18-08-2015, 19:10
People die climbing Everest almost every year, should we ban that too?

Only if people kill lions up there.

Macca
18-08-2015, 19:15
I thought the bulls were killing the people, not vice versa. Or do they do something cruel to them after the run?

Marco
18-08-2015, 19:17
The cruel thing is keeping them captive, without the freedom to roam in their natural environment, which they deserve, and instead remaining in captivity and being paraded, for the purpose of 'entertaining' idiots.

The humans killed, as a result of that cruel exploitation, deserved everything they got!

Marco.

Macca
18-08-2015, 19:21
Well I presume they round up the bulls for the event then take them back afterwards. They surely don't keep them penned up all year for a one day event?

Marco
18-08-2015, 19:27
Do some research into it, mate, and you'll discover the reality.

Besides, who says that the bulls like what's happening to them, even if it is only for 'a wee while'? Perhaps they'd rather be in a field instead, in peace, doing what THEY want to do??

I feel the same way about the circus: lions and elephants, etc, exploited and manipulated for the 'amusement' of humans. Count me out! :nono:

Marco.

Ninanina
18-08-2015, 19:29
I'm on the side of the poor bulls..... I care not a jot about the people who abuse them...

Marco
18-08-2015, 19:39
Ditto. We need to start learning that living creatures were not put onto this earth simply to 'entertain' us, or to provide us with some form of barbaric 'sport'... The fact is, we have no more right to 'control' the life of any creature, beyond what is sometimes necessary to help it survive, than we have of 'controlling' the life of a human being.

Marco.

Joe
18-08-2015, 19:43
Ditto. We need to start learning that living creatures were not put onto this earth simply to 'entertain' us, or to provide us with some form of barbaric 'sport'... The fact is, we have no more right to 'control' the life of any creature, beyond what is sometimes necessary to help it survive, than we have of 'controlling' the life of a human being.

Marco.

So are you a vegetarian, and if not, why not? Surely breeding animals to kill and eat them is quite 'controlling'?

Marco
18-08-2015, 19:49
I guess it is, but as usual, there's a balance to be had. Man has killed to eat for centuries, so I see no problem with eating meat (if that's what you choose to do), as long as the killing is done humanely. Exploiting animals as purely a form of entertainment, by subjecting them to horrific abuse is, in my view, quite another thing.

Marco.

struth
18-08-2015, 20:06
Well I presume they round up the bulls for the event then take them back afterwards. They surely don't keep them penned up all year for a one day event?

Traditionally and probably still the case was that they drive them through the streets to the bull ring where they are eventually killed. Its a pretty grizzly affair imo, and a bit sad that it continues to this day and is still as popular.

Oddball
18-08-2015, 22:45
Lets remember I am a dairy farmer .
I didn't mean to provoke any ethical argument about 'keeping' livestock.
I possibly might be in the wrong place for that ,but getting bulls in a condition , fit ,mad and ready to run and then letting them chase down narrow streets while people can have a buzz trying to avoid them .
Serves them right if they get a shiny curved horn up their arse

Joe
19-08-2015, 06:15
Lets remember I am a dairy farmer .
I didn't mean to provoke any ethical argument about 'keeping' livestock.
I possibly might be in the wrong place for that ,but getting bulls in a condition , fit ,mad and ready to run and then letting them chase down narrow streets while people can have a buzz trying to avoid them .
Serves them right if they get a shiny curved horn up their arse

I don't think anyone would argue with that!

Marco
19-08-2015, 06:59
Lets remember I am a dairy farmer .
I didn't mean to provoke any ethical argument about 'keeping' livestock.
I possibly might be in the wrong place for that ,but getting bulls in a condition , fit ,mad and ready to run and then letting them chase down narrow streets while people can have a buzz trying to avoid them .
Serves them right if they get a shiny curved horn up their arse

Precisely. It's wrong on every level.

You're doing what you're doing to earn a living and provide a valuable and important commodity, and I'm sure that you look after your animals and provide them with a suitable and humane environment to live in.

No-one 'needs' the existence of bull fighting - least of all the bulls!

Marco.

archiesdad
21-08-2015, 19:57
I'm most certainly with the majority here, bullz rullz, ok.