View Full Version : Glass optical cable, any good 'uns out there?
Heard the Mark Grant glass optical in my system a while ago hooking up my Transporter to the Young Dac, sounded slightly better/different/preferred to the Bluejeans BNC/BNC I'm currently using.
This surprised me as the BNC is apparently the Transporter's best digital hookup option and is 75Ohm impedance matched to my Dac's input.
I know Marks is no longer available, anyone have experience of an alternative good glass optical cable?
I know there is a Profigold one at £25 but dont want to spend that kinda money if I can help it, hence the question!
ta.
Spectral Morn
29-07-2015, 08:29
The Kimber one, which has been on the market for years is pretty good Gary.
http://www.russandrews.com/product-KIMBER-OPT-1-fibre-optic-interconnect-2650.htm
Regards Neil
I went for QED Reference Optical Quartz Digital Cable
Length: 0.6m
Price: £79.95
but sounds like you don't want to spend. Best of luck reconciling your budget and wishes.
The QED did sound different
Ammonite Audio
29-07-2015, 10:44
I'm happy to be educated here, but my limited experience suggests that whether an optical cable is glass or plastic matters very little, but how the thing is made matters very much. This is quite difficult to discern at a glance or from published specs. I've had one truly awful glass cable, a very flexible QED 3m plastic thing that was rather better, and latterly a Lifatec glass cable that's probably as good as I've heard, but it does cost nigh on $100.
i heard that MG optical in Garys system and it was better than anything else we tried..dunno why but it was...in general i would say there shouldnt be any difference but it did sound that bit better
Yup, remembering that got me curious about digital cales again Grant.
Have a couple of "good" toslinks in my spares bag, tried them and neither near as good as the BNC coax connection.
wee tee cee
29-07-2015, 14:19
Gaz,
Give MG a shout-he might have one lying in a drawer. I have a few opticals from belkin/cheapo/atlas/beresford (MG glass just shade the lot)-might make for a daft wee bake off!!!
the dafter the better Tony, you know the script!
brian2957
29-07-2015, 14:51
Aye , does it include cinammon pastries :)
StanleyB
29-07-2015, 14:54
Yup, remembering that got me curious about digital cales again Grant.
Have a couple of "good" toslinks in my spares bag, tried them and neither near as good as the BNC coax connection.
It is not necessarily the TOSLINK lead that is the cause of the problem. If you got a bad TOSLINK or coax output circuit on a CDP etc., you'll get a bad signal coming in to your DAC.
A lot of TOSLINK sockets on older equipment are also not very good in their performance. I replaced an old TOSLINK socket on a CDP for someone not so long ago with a more recent 192kHz compatible one and the sound quality through TOSLINK improved by quite a bit.
Pieoftheday
29-07-2015, 14:55
the sonicwave ones are supposed to be good,mite be cheaper to import one from states,amazon.com, edit just checked us prices, seem to have gone up a bit:(
These are excellent Gaz but n
ot exactly cheap http:// http://www.lifatec.com/toslink2.html but IMO well worth the extra outlay.
Link maybe not work as i'm crap at using Kindle but just search Lifatec.com
...there could be a grounding issue with your BNC implementation, but looking at your kit that just doesn't seem likely. Optical can sound different, and measure different as it has significantly less bandwidth than coaxial, and sometimes these differences offer better synergy in a system 'right or wrong'!
Link is spot on Martin, bookmarked.
thanks mate.
Heard nowt but good things about the Lifatec from Forumland elsewhere.
These are excellent Gaz but n
ot exactly cheap http:// http://www.lifatec.com/toslink2.html but IMO well worth the extra outlay.
Link maybe not work as i'm crap at using Kindle but just search Lifatec.com
...there could be a grounding issue with your BNC implementation, but looking at your kit that just doesn't seem likely. Optical can sound different, and measure different as it has significantly less bandwidth than coaxial, and sometimes these differences offer better synergy in a system 'right or wrong'!
BNC sounds noticably better Neil, so if its a grounding issue with I wish I had it on Toslink!
Not a dramatic need to change, just getting that curiosity again :doh:
Connections on the Transporter are pretty much up there with anything else so not sure its that, good suggestion though Stan.
BNC sounds noticably better Neil, so if its a grounding issue with I wish I had it on Toslink!
Not a dramatic need to change, just getting that curiosity again :doh:
Connections on the Transporter are pretty much up there with anything else so not sure its that, good suggestion though Stan.
Ah cool, I misread this as TOSLINK sounding better rather than just different...
Going to take punt on the Lifatec, £45 for meter.
Can return it within 30 days.
wee tee cee
30-07-2015, 16:20
Im up for a wee bakeoff next weekend (daft o meter going benny bongo) bog stock freebie plastic straw shitter as the start point up to my my glass MG with all comers in between.
Variety of pastries/cakes to enable proper assessment.
Could throw a few co-ax cables into the mix for pure devilment.....( shouldnt make any difference though-all digital connections sound the same-just ones and zeros)
brian2957
30-07-2015, 16:59
What dates you talking about mate ?
Aye....good shout T-Dog sounds like a plan, I'd be up for that. :)
I'll get the jungle drums and the smoke signals going...
Wont get the glass jobbie for a while though, coming from the land of the Free and the home of the brave.
Be good to compare your MG against my BNC again, now my preamps got some hours under its belt and has stretched its legs a bit.
wee tee cee
30-07-2015, 17:26
Was thinking my place .....no turntable(no its not addictive just listen....ooh that sounds majik-gotta have one malarkey).
plug and play in my set up- of course we will be plagued with expectation bias/ not regarding the measurements.
If at yours Tony (assumed my gaff) ill need to see if the gaffer Brian can go, Im without a chariot for a few months so need to re
ly on a lift.
Will bring Project Lenco with me.
Dp
Sending from my phone...one handed..walking up the hill with a chippie.
Ordered this, expecting it in a few days.
Looks the business...
http://www.lifatec.com/toslink2.html
Ordered this, expecting it in a few days.
Looks the business...
http://www.lifatec.com/toslink2.html
One of the best. Pro grade no BS.
That's what Im thinking Krzysztof, should be with me in a few days.
Be interesting to hear it in my system, a Mark Grant glass optical sounded very good and I've heard this is better.
We shall see. :)
Going to take punt on the Lifatec, £45 for meter.
Can return it within 30 days.
Betcha a fiver ya keep it, I tried loads and I reckon it's the toslink equivalent of the Brians mc/klotz cable, just seems to let more music through, very natural sounding IMO
Betcha a fiver ya keep it, I tried loads and I reckon it's the toslink equivalent of the Brians mc/klotz cable, just seems to let more music through, very natural sounding IMO
Look forward to hearing it!
tubehunter
11-08-2015, 08:15
...there could be a grounding issue with your BNC implementation, but looking at your kit that just doesn't seem likely. Optical can sound different, and measure different as it has significantly less bandwidth than coaxial, and sometimes these differences offer better synergy in a system 'right or wrong'!
I worked for 18 years at Optical Fibres Deeside and fibre optic cables have much higher bandwidths than copper cables.
It'll all come down to what hits my lug'oles when I plug it in, trying to avoid any FUD about the technology itself.
Looked into it a bit and Duncan's right though...
I was surprised at how good a glass optical sounded given I've never liked plastic toslink cables.
"On paper" a proper 75 ohm transformer isolated BNC spdif connection from Traporter to my dac should have been the best, but when we compared all present agreed it wasn't.
The Lifatec one seems to be a lot better precision engineered than any other one I've seen, so wonder if that might be a factor in how it sounds, given we're talking transmission of light with as little loss as possible.
Anyway, looking forward to trying the glass optical in my system again.
I worked for 18 years at Optical Fibres Deeside and fibre optic cables have much higher bandwidths than copper cables.
Yes, the cables do, but the TOSLINK modules do not. No matter how high bandwidth an optical cable is the modules are slow compared to an electrical / coax connection. Easily seen in eyepatterns with rounding off the signal waves.
Good discussion here:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/91-audio-theory-setup-chat/792192-coaxial-vs-optical-s-pdif-bandwidth.html
Good discussion here:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/91-audio-theory-setup-chat/792192-coaxial-vs-optical-s-pdif-bandwidth.html
Superb discussion and comments. Very valuable for those who think that jitter nowadays is a major BIG problem. It isn't! I think that's easier to deploy optical interface then good sounding USB one. It should be also cheaper, lots of circuitry is needed around USB to sound decent and source independent IMHO. In turns, spdif is hardware based. and eliminates some obvious problems of galvanic isolation, ground loops etc. I think that to make very good sounding USB input you need to invest more time and cash. Coax, XLR and optical has been on pro market long enough. Just my thought of course.
orbscure
16-08-2015, 17:09
Anyway, looking forward to trying the glass optical in my system again.
If its arrived Gaz, how are you getting on with the Lifatec?
Not here yet Pete, will post up my impressions when its here. :)
orbscure
16-08-2015, 20:44
No worries Gaz :) I dug my 20" example out of the surplus cable draw today and have hooked up my SCD555ES to my DAC... so it'll be intrigued to see how you fair...
Card through the door when I was out today...
the son of a bitch is costing me £20 customs charge!
Ah well...
wee tee cee
18-08-2015, 15:27
ouch....hopefully it will be worth it. Let us know how you get on with it.
orbscure
18-08-2015, 16:54
..the son of a bitch is costing me £20 customs charge!
Same think happened to me Gaz... I can just about stomach the duty, but the handling charges are just plain extortionate!!!!
Well initial verdicts in...
Compared to any of the two good quality plastic toslinks I tried it with, the Lifatec glass cable sounds noticably better.
More open, focused detailed and natural sounding.
Having now heard it for myself, I'd say glass toslink is better than plastic.
Jury's still out on better/worse/different compared to my BNC connection to the dac, but will give that one a couple of days.
Well initial verdicts in...
Compared to any of the two good quality plastic toslinks I tried it with, the Lifatec glass cable sounds noticably better.
More open, focused detailed and natural sounding.
Having now heard it for myself, I'd say glass toslink is better than plastic.
Jury's still out on better/worse/different compared to my BNC connection to the dac, bit will give that one a couple of days.
Much more honest sounding than the plastic ones don'tcha think, shame HM Customs copped you, mine sneaked thru' nay bother
Much more honest sounding than the plastic ones don'tcha think, shame HM Customs copped you, mine sneaked thru' nay bother
You lucky sod :lol:
Any further thoughts/findings?
I am torn between a decent glass cable or a good pair of HD540 II headphones....
PaulStewart
27-08-2015, 22:39
The best glass cable I have found is in fact, one of the cheapest. Fisual cables are an optical boro silicate glass that is a Japanese medical grade product. The reason glass cables can work better is that they are optical systems, like lenses and chromatic abberation will cause phase shifts in the digital signal, increasing error correction and grain.
The thing is that for medical use, like laser surgery, there cannot be any such difusion of the laser, so high quality glass and optically polished terminations are essential. Fisual use this glass technology and to my ears it is indistinguisable for cables costing loads more. I use them in the studio and between my Mac Mini and my DAC.
The best glass cable I have found is in fact, one of the cheapest. Fisual cables are an optical boro silicate glass that is a Japanese medical grade product. The reason glass cables can work better is that they are optical systems, like lenses and chromatic abberation will cause phase shifts in the digital signal, increasing error correction and grain.
The thing is that for medical use, like laser surgery, there cannot be any such difusion of the laser, so high quality glass and optically polished terminations are essential. Fisual use this glass technology and to my ears it is indistinguisable for cables costing loads more. I use them in the studio and between my Mac Mini and my DAC.
Looked at Fisual cables before but couldnt get enough info on what ones what tbh. Which level is the glass one Paul, and do they do it in standard configuration
The best glass cable I have found is in fact, one of the cheapest. Fisual cables are an optical boro silicate glass that is a Japanese medical grade product
Ditto - being a cheapskate I opted for a Fisual 'Install' cable, and it didn't disappoint. At about £6 for a metre cable it was a pleasant surprise ...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fisual-Install-Series-Mini-Toslink-Optical/dp/B003NT6RDO?
PaulStewart
27-08-2015, 23:21
Hi Grant,
The Pearl grade and above are glass, I use the mini to standard in the hifi and standard to standard in the studio, all are really good
Cheers Paul. I might get one of the pearl ones. Try it against my Beresford special :)
The Lifatec is a rather large step above any of the plastic opticals I've tried in comparison, including a few "brand names" that go for considerably (Meaning 4x) the asking price.
This Company manufactures their own cable to exact and overspecced tolerances..cant see much being better tbh.
How does it compare to a coax?
Hi Grant,
The Pearl grade and above are glass, I use the mini to standard in the hifi and standard to standard in the studio, all are really good
I have had a quick google on this, and I can't find any confirmation on what is used. I found a 1m Fisual Hollywood optic cable for £12.99 delivered, so I am keen to verify it is in fact "glass".
It may not be as good as the Lifatec, but it is supposed to be polished, so may be pretty close for less than the import and handling fees.
wee tee cee
29-08-2015, 10:54
Amazon do the fisual pearl cables in various lengths. I ordered a 2m for a tenner to give it a go.
A wee get together at my place may well be on the cards to try the various opticals-could be interesting.
The Hollywood is supposed to be the next model up from the Pearl.
brian2957
29-08-2015, 11:01
Amazon do the fisual pearl cables in various lengths. I ordered a 2m for a tenner to give it a go.
A wee get together at my place may well be on the cards to try the various opticals-could be interesting.
Yup , that would be interesting mate . Give us some dates .
wee tee cee
30-08-2015, 00:56
Pm sent ....
Got the fisual plumbed in and gave it a few tunes on the cans-sounds pretty good, will try it against the Mark Grant glass when I get the chance.
brian2957
30-08-2015, 09:25
Replied to mate .
Ohhh..
The lifatec's (or my ears) have had some time on it now...
Hard one to call between it and BNC coax from the Transporter now.
glass optical seems a bit more open at the top with more energy on cymbals etc.
This was what I thought when I heard the Mark Grant glass cable in my system.
Both great but slightly different...still deciding what my preference is.
Me old mucker Brians over on Friday will have a sanity check with me.
Think you'll like it Tony, be interesting to hear it in your system.
Its only 1m long though..do-able?
*EDIT*
Slightly off topic, but been trying a few things in my system just to see what would happen...
Put a set of the SDS isofet under my dac...no change.
Put a set under the dacs linear psu...:eek:
Bingo!
Interesting things these ISOfeet?
they work in some applications but not in others, and sometimes work with kit you wouldnt expect....i.e. no moving parts kit getting most improvement.
Funny old game :)
brian2957
31-08-2015, 18:28
PM inbox full buddy .
Was away this weekend but waiting on the mat on my return was 1m of Fisual Pearl (following Paul's recommendation)
Been listening to John Coltrane's 'A Love Supreme' for the last hour from my Mac via Audivarna as player ... never been better !!
(still noticeably digital though)
Follow up to my earlier opinion of the Lifatec.
It's definitely better than BNC from Transporter to my Young.
From memory it's a very big step up from the Mark Grant glass optical in my system...compared to BNC that time improvement was subtle.
This is different and a very obvious improvement between optical and BNC.
Wide WIDE open soundstage and a top end that floats above, in front of and around the speakers, crisp, solid, incisive and completely seamless....Music just appears in mid air.
Never saw that one coming, crikey.
wee tee cee
01-09-2015, 09:30
the fisual pearl got some time last night (thanks paul). It seems to exhibit some of the traits Gary alludes to-soundstage and placement are improved. Looking forward to comparing a few to see whats what.
Tony,
I've the Lifatec, one of Stan B's ones and a generic (but good quality one for comparison)
Shall I bring my Oyaide silver digi coax too or keep to toslink?
These things are very system / interface dependent, am surprised that it makes any difference with the Young, which I would have expected both to sound the same. Who cares though it's all about finding the sound that is best.
Surprised me too Neil.
Wondered if the improvement was at the Transporter end, but Sean Addams (TP inventor) has said that BNC is his best connection, proper 75ohm transformer coupled connection etc.
Nothing mentioned about the toslink though, assuming its the standard Toshiba interface, but probably implemented as good as it can be.
Who cares, if it sounds better it sounds better. :)
Just to pass some subjective experience along, this Lifatec cable got better sounding with some hours on it.
Seriously...
Another "go figure" phenomenon.
wee tee cee
01-09-2015, 13:05
tried the fisual on the cans the other night and thought it was me-new cable delerium.
Last night on the full rig my missus put on some Stevie Wonder and I had a WTF moment. Just loads of extra detail and separation and lots instraments way out in the sides of the soundstage.
Nearly ended up buying tickets for Madison square gardens in November!!!
If the Pearl is good, I am hoping that the Hollywood will be better. It is suppose to be the next level up in the product range, and is down to about £13 for a 1m cable, delivered.
wee tee cee
01-09-2015, 16:55
Im so impressed with the pearl I have splashed out £13 for a Hollywood.....
Mine is still in the post. I hope it's better!
brian2957
01-09-2015, 18:05
Hopefully Tony will have the Hollywood for Friday and we'll find out :)
The existing glass cables you guys have got have far far higher bandwidth than the optical / TOSLINK transmitters and receivers, so I think you are good with high quality glass these things are very different to coax electrical cables!
PaulStewart
01-09-2015, 20:09
The existing glass cables you guys have got have far far higher bandwidth than the optical / TOSLINK transmitters and receivers, so I think you are good with high quality glass these things are very different to coax electrical cables!
Yes so there is a LOT of headroom always the best situation.
Ive got a hollywood on order. hoping to get it this week.
Ive got a hollywood on order. hoping to get it this week.
My half metre Hollywood arrived this morning, but I'm at work so have not had a chance to hear what it sounds like just yet. I think this forum must have done wonders for their sales recently :-)
wee tee cee
02-09-2015, 15:28
Hoping mine will arrive tommorow....its nice to see a bit of action on the forum regards cables that are affordable. Its good fun experimenting. Look forward to hearing Garys american optical against the budget competition....may well be tempted!!!
The optical bit was manufactured in Germany. ;)
Only downside to the Audivarna/Fisual Pearl/Q-DAC combo is that it has now rendered my Pi set up redundant ... will be looking for a new home shortly
Interesting thread. I have Profigold's OxyPure glass cable using mini adapter on my Mac end and it sound pretty good. Don't know it they still selling this cable. Otherwise, Lifatec could be the preferable choice for my optinion as they're pro company specializing in optical cables.
Oh, and one thing to keep in mind: For 24/96 single core fiber should be fine, but if you wanna play 24/192 you need more than single core for longer distances. That's very important.
tubehunter
03-09-2015, 06:18
Interesting thread. I have Profigold's OxyPure glass cable using mini adapter on my Mac end and it sound pretty good. Don't know it they still selling this cable. Otherwise, Lifatec could be the preferable choice for my optinion as they're pro company specializing in optical cables.
Oh, and one thing to keep in mind: For 24/96 single core fiber should be fine, but if you wanna play 24/192 you need more than single core for longer distances. That's very important.
Not strickly true, we made Single mode optical waveguides in 25km lengths at 20 meters a second (yes 15.5 miles) at Deeside!!
'Single mode fibers do exhibit modal dispersion resulting from multiple spatial modes but with narrower modal dispersion. Single mode fibers are therefore better at retaining the fidelity of each light pulse over longer distances than multi-mode fibers. For these reasons, single-mode fibers can have a higher bandwidth than multi-mode fibers.'
Stratmangler
03-09-2015, 07:39
but if you wanna play 24/192 you need more than single core for longer distances
This is an interesting comment.
How long are you thinking?
The cheap 'n' nasty plastic optical stuff is specced work at up to 10m, and is usually only available in up to 5m lengths.
When you start playing with glass fibres the range goes right up in length beyond 30m.
Well I plugged in the Fisual Hollywood cable last night and was suitably impressed. Quite a significant upgrade. Even the wife noticed and commented. She asked me if I'd changed the amplifier? so not a subtle change!
I tried it initially in our second system between a computer and a Berrisford Caiman II, and today I'm running it in the main system between a CD deck and a Cambridge 851N DAC/streamer, and it's a very impressive cable.
I think you will have fun on Friday boys when you compare all these cables.
I may buy another one then!
This is an interesting comment.
How long are you thinking?
The cheap 'n' nasty plastic optical stuff is specced work at up to 10m, and is usually only available in up to 5m lengths.
When you start playing with glass fibres the range goes right up in length beyond 30m.
Well, don't really know, but I've got some response way back some time from the SysConcept company as follows:
"For 24/96kHz even single core will do, but single core will not play
24/192kHz; 1300-core will play this frequency even 5-meter long (based
on customer feedback)."
wee tee cee
03-09-2015, 10:05
Plumbed in the Holywood this morning-its very good indeed. Initial impressions are that it builds on what the pearl does. £13 well spent methinks.
Mine has arrived too.... Will get it in later tiday. Looks nicely made
brian2957
03-09-2015, 10:45
Sounds like it's gonny be an interesting day tomorrow chaps :)
Well, don't really know, but I've got some response way back some time from the SysConcept company as follows:
"For 24/96kHz even single core will do, but single core will not play
24/192kHz; 1300-core will play this frequency even 5-meter long (based
on customer feedback)."
Sounds like 'hog wash' to me ;)
As stated earlier its the Toslink Tx and Rx modules that will limit the bandwidth, 15Mhz being required for 96Khz. You would need modules supporting >25Mhz minimum for 192Khz. A good single core glass toslink cable should have no issue...
Optical connections with decent glass cables are like having tiny water valves at each end, the TOSLINK modules, with a humongous pipe (the decent cable) in between them. You can get more or more humongous, but the valve size stays the same.
Ive got a Boccherini cd on at moment and id say it does sound a bit more detailed and natural. Could be just foo though
Ive got a Boccherini cd on at moment and id say it does sound a bit more detailed and natural. Could be just foo though
Could be Grant, but my wife heard a difference and I had not told her that I'd changed the cable. In fact when she asked me if I'd changed the amplifier I said no, but she was quite insistant that she had heard a significant difference. Only then did I confess to having changed the toslink cable for a new £10.00 one. She feels that there is more distinction between the instruments, and that the tempo of the music is better. She said that it sounds 'faster'....
Pieoftheday
03-09-2015, 15:50
i too thought id give the hollywood a go, came today,nearly lost it though as Henry got to the letterbox before me:lol:
wee tee cee
03-09-2015, 17:30
Ive had a similar experience...Mark Grant kindly made me up eichman silver bullet cables with his cables-I was out but my next door neighbour kindly took them in-they're whippet chewed the shit out the packaging.
They still reside in my sons system...sound mighty fine regardless of the aesthetics.
wee tee cee
03-09-2015, 17:37
Not too sure about foo....I have been using opticals for quite a while-mark grants was my staple. Dipped my toe back in the water when Gary started enquiring.
Wee get together tommorow-always good to have a few no BS mates to tell it like it is!!!!
Not too sure about foo....I have been using opticals for quite a while-mark grants was my staple. Dipped my toe back in the water when Gary started enquiring.
Wee get together tommorow-always good to have a few no BS mates to tell it like it is!!!!
Yes after a few cd's I do think its a fair bit better soundstage wise as well as having a darker deeper silence in the pauses.
Could be Grant, but my wife heard a difference and I had not told her that I'd changed the cable. In fact when she asked me if I'd changed the amplifier I said no, but she was quite insistant that she had heard a significant difference. Only then did I confess to having changed the toslink cable for a new £10.00 one. She feels that there is more distinction between the instruments, and that the tempo of the music is better. She said that it sounds 'faster'....
Always nice to get the wife to hear the difference b4 you tell her.... trouble is she may expect you to find a £10 amp next;)
wee tee cee
03-09-2015, 17:51
Mine seems to find half price handbags and shoes!!!! They are better at lying than us.....
Mine seems to find half price handbags and shoes!!!! They are better at lying than us.....
Dont talk to me about shoes Tony:doh: I found more than 60 pairs; nearly all unworn:) pity they aint my size :eyebrows:
brian2957
03-09-2015, 18:01
She just tells me she bought them ages ago and I usually believe her until I find the unmarked labels still on the sole of the shoes . :lol:
Next it will be new boots for winter . I think she's down to her last 10 pairs or so for this year :)
None of them fit me either Grant . :rolleyes:
Mine seems to find half price handbags and shoes!!!! They are better at lying than us.....
They are better at justifying how much they saved. :D
brian2957
03-09-2015, 18:05
And we believe 'em :D
walpurgis
03-09-2015, 18:26
Mine seems to find half price handbags and shoes!!!! They are better at lying than us.....
Mine buys nothing. I keep her chained up in the cellar! :eek:
brian2957
03-09-2015, 18:27
Mines chewed through the chain to get to the Next sale :lol:
Pieoftheday
03-09-2015, 19:42
First impressions are good with the Hollywood, compared to the profigold I was using, 'TV via sky hd' sound is more open/airy,not hugely so but its there, most noticeably difference is with dialogue, voices are much nicer,smoother and less digital:
First impressions are good with the Hollywood, compared to the profitg old I was using, 'TV via sky hd' sound is more open/airy,not hugely so but its there, most noticeably difference is with dialogue, voices are much nicer,smoother and less digital:
Seems unanimous then James. its a winner:)
Sounds good for £13.
Shame it's been discontinued.
Sounds good for £13.
Shame it's been discontinued.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380191204655?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Yep, but now limited stock. How limited, I do not know.
Sounds good for £13.
Shame it's been discontinued.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fisual-Hollywood-Digital-Optical-Interconnect/dp/B001B51E7G
Can't see it being glass at that price.
That is the reduced price now that it is "discontinued".
I've taken a punt nothing to lose at that price. I will try it on the Sonos Connect to see how it compares to my normal coax connection method.
The optical bit was manufactured in Germany. ;)
Yup..
same company though, Lifatec aren't just resellers. :)
It's just a shame you can't buy it in Europe. No import duty etc.
Old George
02-12-2015, 17:30
Sounds good for £13.
Shame it's been discontinued.
Just 'pulled the trigger' on Amazon, can't go far wrong for £13.
Dauntless
28-12-2015, 16:08
Sounds good for £13.
Shame it's been discontinued.
Fisual is cable brand name for Visual Online Products. https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/
I was looking for some Toslink cable myself. Thanks for the tip guys! Plenty of Hollywood available on the Visual Online site.
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