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RobsterD
25-06-2015, 19:36
tis an outer ring looks pretty cool

http://www.ttweights.com/usainternational-estore.html#!/Outer-Ring-Record-Clamps/c/12085235/offset=0&sort=normal

RobbieGong
25-06-2015, 19:54
tis an outer ring looks pretty cool

http://www.ttweights.com/usainternational-estore.html#!/Outer-Ring-Record-Clamps/c/12085235/offset=0&sort=normal

Yep these guys have been doing the outer rings for a long time now. I enquired some years ago when I had the stock Techie platter but I dont think they had one suitable at that time. Be interesting to hear from someone who has used an outer ring like these.

daytona600
25-06-2015, 20:58
$ 500 to $ 1000 for a outer ring made of metal !

VPI & Clearaudio offer them as well from memory

rather spend the money on a Decent RCM

RobsterD
25-06-2015, 22:53
Great so you have an opinion from experience,care to share on the benefits ?

walpurgis
25-06-2015, 22:56
An opinion does not require experience. It's just a point of view.

RobsterD
25-06-2015, 23:05
An opinion in our hobby should always be based on experience :doh:

StanleyB
25-06-2015, 23:15
An opinion in our hobby should always be based on experience :doh:
No it doesn't. You can have an opinion without experience in the subject matter. It's for others, if they so wish, to challenge your opinion and substitute their own.

RobsterD
25-06-2015, 23:33
Yeah OK what a tiresome forum quoting on irrelevant stuff,the original post was on an interesting turntable topic !

Audio Advent
25-06-2015, 23:33
An opinion in our hobby should always be based on experience :doh:


Pooof! ----- . -----

And as if by magic the whole world of hifi discussion on forums disappears into nothingness.

Audio Advent
25-06-2015, 23:39
Thread drift is part of the experience of forums and often interesting in itself.

Audio Advent
25-06-2015, 23:44
I can understand the principal of ring clamps themselves.

But the price hike for each of those models using different materials is complete mystery to me! Why would a stainless steel one be different to a copper one other than weight effecting it's performance? Looks like they might be introducing foo to the concept of a ring clamp for those who love a bit of mysticism..

YNWaN
26-06-2015, 09:09
These rings (as others have said there are a number of manufacturers that do them) are a good idea if you believe it is best that the record is held tightly to the mat (not everyone does) or if you have a warp you need to iron out (obviously not the comedy warp shown on the manufacturers website - none of my own records would need this). On the negative side they are quite a PITA to use and they must be very accurately centred or they will actually unbalance the platter. In addition, if you have a tapered arm like the SME IV and V the ring will almost certainly fowl the arm tube. Finally, they really need to be used with a centre clamp and not everybody like the effect they have already - plus there is the extra load on the bearing to consider etc. etc.

daytona600
26-06-2015, 19:52
Great so you have an opinion from experience,care to share on the benefits ?

never used one , never felt the need & they look a PITA to use every record unlike a clamp that works in seconds
for $ 500-$1000 i would buy a RCM

" An opinion does not require experience. It's just a point of view."
never seen peter andre but i know he who be shite

ReggieB
26-06-2015, 19:52
It must be really difficult to centre them correctly. Surely if it isn't perfectly centred, the imbalance caused by it being offset is going to outweigh its benefits.

walpurgis
26-06-2015, 19:57
They tend to be heavyish. Imagine the damage if you dropped one on your precious vinyl.

StanleyB
26-06-2015, 20:49
I hate these dreamt up problems and the expensive cure to solve them.

Audio Advent
27-06-2015, 16:49
Think you've got that the wrong way around Stan, the cure comes first.

YNWaN
27-06-2015, 16:58
In this case I wouldn't say it is a cure to an imaginary problem or a solution looking for a problem - it does pretty much do what is claimed and it does help hold the record more firmly to the mat (assuming that is a good idea). Unfortunately it's also a rather inelegant solution and awkward to use (IMO).

Reffc
27-06-2015, 17:16
The money, quite frankly, would be better spent on a cartridge upgrade and humble record clamp....oh....IMHO of course :o

YNWaN
27-06-2015, 21:28
Personally I think the money would be better spent elsewhere too.

A.Grail
06-07-2015, 13:14
I bought one from TT weights 6-7 years ago.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/1622585_964911503526432_3235500404857641463_o.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/1622585_964911503526432_3235500404857641463_o.jpg. html)
The periphery ring comes with a Delrin type mounting adapter (Large disk) to center the ring on the rim of the record (It;s simple and quick). It's good for slightly warped records and some might say your cartridge. The ring has some mass to it which may add a little in terms of flywheel effect. It's handy for the odd record - I'll see if I can dig the thing out, it's been a while since I had a play with it.

Spectral Morn
06-07-2015, 15:18
I have a Rudolf Bruil one http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttring.html I have used it with the matching Record Weight, bit of a pain - even with the aligning device - but if the TT works with it, then for some records worth the hassle.

Link to photos of them in use http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttringpics.html



Regards Neil

rdpx
09-07-2015, 10:19
Yeah OK what a tiresome forum quoting on irrelevant stuff,the original post was on an interesting turntable topic !

Did someone delete the original post?

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