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orbscure
10-06-2015, 18:44
I'm very much aware that SACD is seen as a marginal format these days with a small but hardcore following. I also know that the older Denon multi-disc DVD players (DVD-A, SACD) are still highly regarded and also seen as very good CD transports too. I once had an excellent Denon DVD-2900 but offloaded it for their DBP-2012UD multi disc BlueRay player when it came out back in 2012, so I'd guess that trying to source a black 2900 is where I'd look at going today if nothing else is suggested. But what other SACD players from the heady days of the format are highly regarded today?

Stratmangler
10-06-2015, 20:31
Heady days?

allsorts
10-06-2015, 23:07
Is there a problem with your Denon DBP-2012UD? I picked one up second hand off eBay and am very impressed with the SACD analogue stereo playback. Much better than my Sony blu ray BDP S380, but I find the Sony is much better for video.

orbscure
11-06-2015, 05:40
Not at all Greg, my DBP2012-UD is providing sterling service, but as part of my AV system. I'm looking for a cost effective SACD player to add to my 2 channel setup:)

HackneyRF
11-06-2015, 09:30
Hi Pete

I have been using the Arcam DV137 for some years and have been really pleased with it. They can be had for under £200 in great condition.

Cheers

Loz

wiicrackpot
11-06-2015, 10:21
Hi Pete,

I can recommend a Toshiba SD900e, £ for £ the best bit of kit i ever bought,
i paid £80.00 and it hasn't missed a beat in the 7 yrs i've had it (maybe longer, memories bad),
dates back to 93 and was their top rank player at £1300.00,
i have been using it as a integrated player and reads everything, not a glitch ever,
seemingly it makes a killer transport, 15kg of copper clad loveliness, the smoothness of the transport is a sight to behold,
think i saw someone trying to sell the later SD9000e, minter and was struggling to give it away for £40.00.

orbscure
11-06-2015, 10:26
Thanks chaps... now we're cooking on gas... any other suggestions very much appreciated, so keep'em coming :)

Audio Al
11-06-2015, 10:36
My Phillips SACD player went for a ride down the tip and was dispatched into a huge roll on / off skip Bloody thing
It will be back soon a a baked bean tin :)

wiicrackpot
11-06-2015, 11:15
Tried a Philips 963sa and a Marantz 7001 Ki Sig, the first due to it being a HiFi+ component of the year winner,
not even close and the transport was cheap in comparison, Marantz was a little better than the Philips but the Tosh topped it,
also the Marantz had probs with some discs, both sold on with no loss,
i'd like to ad SACD and DVD Audio discs is top notch with the SD900e . :cool:

orbscure
11-06-2015, 21:14
Many thanks Andy... the SD9000e is on my shortlist, albeit, there don't seem to be many of them about at present. Its the same for the older Denon players universal players too, which must tell us something about how good they are at transport duties. I may even look at cashing in my Moon Nova CDP and see what higher end universal players are about, especially if they spin HDCD and standard CD's too...

darkmatter
08-12-2016, 15:34
Rather than start a new thread though I would post here

Looking for an SACD player, 2 ch just fine for my second system, my budget around £200 max

hifinutt
08-12-2016, 18:01
any good ? Santosh is a great guy

http://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/113243-onkyo-c-s5vl-super-audio-cd-player/

Macca
08-12-2016, 18:48
Sony SCD XB790 QS

I'm listening to one now, hanging off 7K of amps and speakers. Not a lot wrong with it. Should cost you less than a ton off eBay. Mine was fifty quid bought off here.

darkmatter
09-12-2016, 10:35
Sony SCD XB790 QS

I'm listening to one now, hanging off 7K of amps and speakers. Not a lot wrong with it. Should cost you less than a ton off eBay. Mine was fifty quid bought off here.

How does this compare to the Sony SCD-XB770S? I tried a s/h Sony SCD-XE800 which died after a week :( I had an SCD-XE670 which lasted about 2 years so am cautious of Sony players. Maybe just unlucky?

Macca
09-12-2016, 12:10
Not sure but I would guess any differences would be tiny. I think you must have been unlucky with Sonys, they die eventually but IME they last longer than most.

AlfaGTV
09-12-2016, 13:24
Pioneer PD-D6-J, can be had for silly money and does quite well. (bougth mine for about £50) :)

ReggieB
09-12-2016, 16:36
You might be interested in this Tosh SD900E (http://r.ebay.com/ychzfI) currently on the bay

Bazil
09-12-2016, 17:27
The Tosh doesn't do SACD Rob.

ReggieB
09-12-2016, 18:36
Ah!. I saw it as a recommend solution in one of the earlier posts in this thread - I assumed ...

Bazil
09-12-2016, 18:52
I've got a Tosh SD9500E superb machine a great pity it also doesn't do SACD.

pcourtney
09-12-2016, 19:08
I have a Denon DVD-2910 - the same as Orbscure mentioned at the beginning of this topic, it is a gem - better than most of the Sony's I tried at the time

It is a shame you don't live nearer to Kent, as there looks to be a nice Denon DVD-2900 for £65 quid collect (with remote and manual ) Item No 332056172808

or I might sell mine for £100 delivered if you want, I have too many Hi-Fi bits at the moment, and I am saving up to buy a Pink Triangle turntable ( if anyone has a beaten up one cheap, please PM me )

struth
09-12-2016, 19:15
got a DVD-2910 myself. my second one actually. Stonking build on these ans were veery expensive originally. Soung great and do sacd plus pretty much everything else inbetween



I have a Denon DVD-2910 - the same as Orbscure mentioned at the beginning of this topic, it is a gem - better than most of the Sony's I tried at the time

It is a shame you don't live nearer to Kent, as there looks to be a nice Denon DVD-2900 for £65 quid collect (with remote and manual ) Item No 332056172808

or I might sell mine for £100 delivered if you want, I have too many Hi-Fi bits at the moment, and I am saving up to buy a Pink Triangle turntable ( if anyone has a beaten up one cheap, please PM me )

Haselsh1
10-12-2016, 09:57
My experience with SACD has been very mixed. Back in 2004 I bought a Sony multiplayer thingy which just happened to play SACD's. The sound of these discs when played was without question superior to ordinary CD and this player is still functioning today but in 2014 I bought a Pioneer PDD6 which went pop in a big way within six months. OK, I could have had it repaired within six months but it was an internet purchase from God knows where so it wasn't really going to happen and given the amazing cheapness of this item and flimsiness of the drawer mechanism I shoved it in a skip where to be honest, it belonged. Will I ever go back to SACD even though I have a lot of discs...? No. I can't be bothered. I currently have the sound I want.

Macca
10-12-2016, 10:06
I've found that the hybrid SACDs sound just as good on a normal cd player. The benefit is all in the re-mastering. Also noticed that any CD played on a SACD player has that silky smoothness that is usually attributed to the SACD format. I suspect it is just the way the players are 'voiced'. Can't prove that, though.

pcourtney
10-12-2016, 12:16
I disagree to a certain extent, I have had about 10 players capable of playing SA-CD's in my Hi-Fi rack over the last 15 years, I can honestly say that the difference IMHO is 75% the DAC, and 25% the better mastering of the disc, or lets say more money thrown at the production cycle to merit the so called extra SQ that SA-CD is supposed to bring

my Onkyo C-S5VL is testament to that, it uses the Wolfson 192 kHz/24-Bit D/A Converter (WM8742) and with a decent SA-CD sounds pretty darn good !

when I plug in my AKG K-601 or K-340 headphones into the headphone socket of the C-S5VL the experience is up thee with players that retail in the £2 to £5K world, it really is a giant killer, better than all the Sony and other SA-CD players I have used over those years, if you can find a C-S5VL cheap snap it up, it really is a bargain, make sure you get the remote control with it. Sell it on for a profit if you don't experience the SQ I get !

Haselsh1
10-12-2016, 12:16
I've found that the hybrid SACDs sound just as good on a normal cd player. The benefit is all in the re-mastering. Also noticed that any CD played on a SACD player has that silky smoothness that is usually attributed to the SACD format. I suspect it is just the way the players are 'voiced'. Can't prove that, though.

Hmmm... now that is really interesting. I may have to try that out myself

;)

hifinutt
22-12-2016, 17:13
I disagree to a certain extent, I have had about 10 players capable of playing SA-CD's in my Hi-Fi rack over the last 15 years, I can honestly say that the difference IMHO is 75% the DAC, and 25% the better mastering of the disc, or lets say more money thrown at the production cycle to merit the so called extra SQ that SA-CD is supposed to bring

my Onkyo C-S5VL is testament to that, it uses the Wolfson 192 kHz/24-Bit D/A Converter (WM8742) and with a decent SA-CD sounds pretty darn good !

when I plug in my AKG K-601 or K-340 headphones into the headphone socket of the C-S5VL the experience is up thee with players that retail in the £2 to £5K world, it really is a giant killer, better than all the Sony and other SA-CD players I have used over those years, if you can find a C-S5VL cheap snap it up, it really is a bargain, make sure you get the remote control with it. Sell it on for a profit if you don't experience the SQ I get !

well peter , after reading your post I remember one for sale so we shall see whats it like !! certainly a lot cheaper than marantz

pcourtney
22-12-2016, 17:26
there's a really nice one on ebay for under £200, but it's in Germany, looks like it comes with the remote as well

Onkyo C-S5VL CD / SACD-Player, silver, The player was only a few hours in operation, - is quasi as new Date of purchase was 10-2016, purchase document is enclosed Shipping with all accessories (FB, manual, etc.) In orig. Cardboard