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The Barbarian
09-02-2015, 11:31
Without foolish answers please can someone give me advice.

This morning i got buzzed {Main Entrance door Intercom} I also heard all the other five flats intercom buzz as well.Answering it i got no responce so went down to find an elderly man & woman. I asked them why they buzzed she just looked through me & walked away with him. She had an hand full of Pamphlet's & he a Book + leather bag. I knew straight away who they were before opening the mail box to find 'Watch Tower'

Im getting sick of this because it's quite regular & i even have a 'No soliciting'' Sign in the entrance window.

What the hell do i do to get shut of these people. I cannot stand religion in any form as it is & a certainly do no believe in ramming it down people throats.. I don't even see these people as a religion anyway more of a cult imho..

Ali Tait
09-02-2015, 11:47
Not sure, but I think they target specific areas for a while and then move on, so hopefully you won't be bothered after a while.

struth
09-02-2015, 11:47
not much you can do except ask them not to come back. i did this and have a no buying from doorstep sign etc and it mostly works now. as your in a block of flats it is a little more difficult to control. if everyone in the bock were of the same mind you could seek advice from the local police.

jollyfix
09-02-2015, 11:53
Follow them to their home, knock on their door and talk endlessly about HIFI, whilst holding several copies of HIFI world . Maybe best not as they are elderly.

jollyfix
09-02-2015, 11:54
Not sure, but I think they target specific areas for a while and then move on, so hopefully you won't be bothered after a while.
spot on Ali, tends to be the 'norm'.

The Barbarian
09-02-2015, 11:58
But what is all this looking straight through you all in aid of! have they taken a vow to not speak or summert? or have they mastered thought transfer?

RichB
09-02-2015, 12:34
Follow them to their home, knock on their door and talk endlessly about HIFI, whilst holding several copies of HIFI world . Maybe best not as they are elderly.

:lol: isnt that what we do anyway lol.

Could always invite them them as unwitting test subjects for cable swapping. Playing the same Diana Krall tune over and over will soon get rid of em.

Wakefield Turntables
09-02-2015, 12:36
Follow them to their home, knock on their door and talk endlessly about HIFI, whilst holding several copies of HIFI world . Maybe best not as they are elderly.

:lol: Yep sounds like a good strategy.

Why did did they look through you? Did they have cataracts? Perhaps they thought they were superior to you? I'd just forget about them, relax and listen to some vinyl. :)

Gordon Steadman
09-02-2015, 12:36
But what is all this looking straight through you all in aid of! have they taken a vow to not speak or summert? or have they mastered thought transfer?

You obviously look like a member of the great unwashed and are unworthy of receiving their message of hope and the chance to support their way of life financially.

Welcome to the club.

Ali Tait
09-02-2015, 12:42
Andre, maybe you should really mess with their heads and invite them in. Bet that never happens.. :D

Sovereign
09-02-2015, 13:01
Follow them to their home, knock on their door and talk endlessly about HIFI, whilst holding several copies of HIFI world . Maybe best not as they are elderly.

That is very good advice Jolly

Marco
09-02-2015, 13:03
I invited two of them in once...I think it was April 2007...a rainy Thursday afternoon.... Anyway, I led them down to the dungeon, where Tabatha lives (claiming that's where the lounge was), locked the door, and left her to 'entertain' them... I think they're probably still tied up now.

Haven't seen them since, although the police have called a couple of times, enquiring if I'd seen any JW's in the area. I just deny it and close the door with a knowing grin... Oddly, no more have appeared since.

Marco.

Sovereign
09-02-2015, 13:05
Andre, maybe you should really mess with their heads and invite them in. Bet that never happens.. :D


Probably not very often, but many moons ago when I was about 25 I was also fed up of the door knocking. I spoke to them for a while on the door step then invited them in for coffee. They nearly fell over. They said that they couldn't. They then sent one of their big wigs along a few days later. I invited him in and asked him many questions, that I already knew the answers to. He got a bit uncomfortable then left. They left me alone for a few years. then the next batch started knocking.

struth
09-02-2015, 13:59
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MikeMusic
09-02-2015, 15:03
Get them in and talk about your Kawasaki 500

(you might have to watch Absolutely!) to do it properly

:)

walpurgis
09-02-2015, 17:47
Every kind of Bible Basher under the sun calls here now and then. I just politely indicate that they should 'Go Forth an Multiply'.

rossman
09-02-2015, 20:23
not much you can do except ask them not to come back. i did this and have a no buying from doorstep sign etc and it mostly works now. as your in a block of flats it is a little more difficult to control. if everyone in the bock were of the same mind you could seek advice from the local police.

I am married to a Jehovah's Witness and as far as I know if you ask them not to call on you then they shouldn't. That is not to say that it definitely won't happen again as mistakes can happen and information may not be passed on effectively, as Grant says living in a block of flats does make it more difficult. If it continues, ask to speak to one of the elders and explain to them that you have asked not to be called on. Again, as far as I know they would rather spend their time trying to reach people that are receptive to their message. It obviously wasn't rammed down your throat if they walked away.

Please remember that Jehovah's Witnesses are normal people when they are not out knocking on doors and some are nervous about doing this, which is not surprising really when you consider some of the reactions they get. This may explain why the looking through you thing that happened, although that must have seemed a rude thing to do, I would have thought they would have least tried to engage you in a conversation as an opening for a discussion.

I do wonder what would have happened if all of the residents of the flats had gone to the front door at the same time though.

I hope this helps

Canetoad
09-02-2015, 22:22
What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with a Hells Angel?

Somebody who comes to your door and tells YOU to f%&k off! :)

ReggieB
10-02-2015, 21:12
I invited them in a while back. Religion fascinates me, (but I find that the more I read about it the more ludicrous it seems), so I don't mind having a chat about it.

It all ended a little quickly when one of them said that Christ was perfect, to which I replied that he most certainly wasn't. In fact, him being imperfect was the whole point. That despite having to put up with human frailties he managed to follow the path to god, and therefore acted as an example to us. If he hadn't had to struggle with his human imperfections, spending all that time in the desert being goaded by the devil wouldn't have been a problem. My final point being that if Christ was perfect he wouldn't have doubted god when on the cross and cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?". At that point they went off in a huff and haven't been back since.

It's quite interesting really. They can usually quote sections of the bible, but they rarely understand the meanings of the passages.

My father's favourite tactic is to ask them if they are disappointed that they'll never get to heaven, as there is only space for fourteen thousand (http://www.letusreason.org/JW52.htm), and far more than that have died already. So there's no chance that the Jehovah's witness that lands on your doorstep is going to squeeze it.

walpurgis
10-02-2015, 21:43
Being an Atheist, I won't waste breathe on a topic I don't recognise the existence of.

Ninanina
10-02-2015, 21:47
Being an Atheist, I won't waste breathe on a topic I don't recognise the existence of.

Snap.... :)

walpurgis
10-02-2015, 21:58
I believe in Father Christmas though. :lol:

struth
10-02-2015, 21:58
There is only silicon heaven......the human one was only made up to stop us going nuts :D

Spectral Morn
10-02-2015, 22:16
I invited them in a while back. Religion fascinates me, (but I find that the more I read about it the more ludicrous it seems), so I don't mind having a chat about it.

It all ended a little quickly when one of them said that Christ was perfect, to which I replied that he most certainly wasn't. In fact, him being imperfect was the whole point. That despite having to put up with human frailties he managed to follow the path to god, and therefore acted as an example to us. If he hadn't had to struggle with his human imperfections, spending all that time in the desert being goaded by the devil wouldn't have been a problem. My final point being that if Christ was perfect he wouldn't have doubted god when on the cross and cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?". At that point they went off in a huff and haven't been back since.

It's quite interesting really. They can usually quote sections of the bible, but they rarely understand the meanings of the passages.

My father's favourite tactic is to ask them if they are disappointed that they'll never get to heaven, as there is only space for fourteen thousand (http://www.letusreason.org/JW52.htm), and far more than that have died already. So there's no chance that the Jehovah's witness that lands on your doorstep is going to squeeze it.

With respect your theology is deeply flawed, showing a lack of understanding regarding orthodox Christian beliefs. Unless Christ was perfect, sinless and without flaw he could not be the spotless lamb that could take away the sin of the world. A flawed, sinful Christ would be just the same as the rest of us and that just would not work.

And JW theology which is not orthodox Christian states that only 144,000 will go to heaven, so the figure you state is incorrect.

ReggieB
10-02-2015, 22:23
With respect your theology is deeply flawed, showing a lack of understanding regarding orthodox Christian beliefs. Unless Christ was perfect, sinless and without flaw he could not be the spotless lamb that could take away the sin of the world. A flawed, sinful Christ would be just the same as the rest of us and that just would not work.

And JW theology which is not orthodox Christian states that only 144,000 will go to heaven, so the figure you state is incorrect.

Cripes. It's even more gobbledegook than I thought.

Spectral Morn
10-02-2015, 22:28
I will bow out now because this will rapidly become disrespectful and rude.

Andrei
10-02-2015, 22:42
The meek shall inherit the earth. The intention, if I understand it correctly, is that on the resurrection life (for billions I suppose) is on earth.

ReggieB
10-02-2015, 22:52
I will bow out now because this will rapidly become disrespectful and rude.

It sort of went the same way with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I think I have a talent.

walpurgis
10-02-2015, 22:55
The meek shall inherit the earth.

Only if that's OK with the rest of us. :D

struth
10-02-2015, 23:09
By the time the non meek are finished with it I'd guess they'll be welcome:doh:

Marco
11-02-2015, 10:53
I think the key with this is how annoying/distasteful it is having unsolicited calls at your home, with someone ramming their religious beliefs down your throat and/or trying to 'convert' you, when such things should remain a private experience for the individual(s) concerned, or not, as the case may be.

I'm a practicing Catholic, and have a very strong faith and belief in God, but I would NEVER dream of forcing my beliefs on others, or trying to convert them to my faith. Keep one's religious beliefs behind the confines of one's own doors, or in relevant churches/religious centres, and leave it at that - and there should be no problems :exactly:

Marco.

The Barbarian
11-02-2015, 11:08
Precisely & that goes for Homosexuality too.

Marco
11-02-2015, 11:20
Too right... I've got ZERO against it, but I certainly don't want their activities continually shoved in my face, for the sake of fooking 'political correctness'! :nono:

Marco.

DanJennings
13-02-2015, 19:35
In the place I used to live, we had Jehovahs call round regular as clockwork, every year on Christmas day.

I personally think that goes beyond soliciting to intentionally causing a nuisance. Me being me, I used to blast Slayer (or something similarly satanic) while I answered the door and told them where to go.

walpurgis
13-02-2015, 19:42
Precisely & that goes for Homosexuality too.

I don't recall anybody knocking at the door and wanting to talk about it. :lol:

Marco
13-02-2015, 19:48
As long as they're not there for a 'jump'! :eyebrows:

Marco.

The Barbarian
13-02-2015, 19:53
Too right... I've got ZERO against it, but I certainly don't want their activities continually shoved in my face, for the sake of fooking 'political correctness'! :nono:

Marco.

I have nothing against it but what i do have against the ones that do ram it down you throat :eyebrows: flaunt about in such a flamboyant manner, that their behaviour does not resemble a man in any shape or form.

Marco
13-02-2015, 20:09
I know - why the fook does being gay have to be 'celebrated'? Do we 'celebrate' the fact that we're heterosexual?? Good luck to any gay people, but keep their 'funny business' behind closed doors, I say! :exactly:

I wouldn't consider snogging Del in the middle of the street, so I don't feel it appropriate either for two gay guys to have their tongues down each other's throats outside of Tesco!!

It's the same on TV, there's always the 'token' gay or black person on any programme you care to mention, for the sake of 'political correctness'. Does my fooking nut right in!! :doh:

Marco [one of the most politically incorrect folk you'll meet, and proud of it].

walpurgis
13-02-2015, 20:14
Marco [one of the most politically incorrect folk you'll meet, and proud of it].

Ha. Just like me. Bugger 'correctness' sentiments I say. :eek:

Marco
13-02-2015, 20:15
Too fucking right, Geoff. I tell it as I see it, and if you don't like it, tough! ;)

Marco.

struth
13-02-2015, 21:41
Stop saying JEHOVAH!!!! .....and leave us dress wearing, pipe smoking lasses alone.:eyebrows:

https://howardjohnsonblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/graham.jpg

Marco
13-02-2015, 21:50
Shtop it - you're getting me all excited... Do you have a big hairy arse, too (replete with pimples)? :D :lol:

Marco.

struth
13-02-2015, 21:52
Shtop it - you're getting me all excited... Do you have a big hairy arse, too (replete with pimples)? :D :lol:

Marco.

aye :eyebrows: with dangles :doh:

Marco
13-02-2015, 21:58
Whoa... Don't tell me you've got B.O too, or I'm off for a lie down!!

:door: :wave:

Marco.

walpurgis
13-02-2015, 22:10
Alert! 'Good Taste' Mod about to intervene! :eyebrows::D

struth
13-02-2015, 22:24
I like to be clean....wrong dangles.:lol:

Marco
13-02-2015, 22:28
As clean as the surface of your Shiatsu? I can shniff it from 'ere! :D

Marco.

struth
13-02-2015, 22:38
I tried for a hirez pic but you know that a black hole absorbs all light ;)

Eagle owl
14-02-2015, 22:43
This thread had turned into a Brown Hatters fest :lol:

audioquiz
15-02-2015, 02:26
easy answer to this, tell them your a muslim and they should convert to islam lol

Anthony K
15-02-2015, 02:45
Make it easier tell them your minister to the church of Set and was thinking of how to abduct new sacrifices when you heard the bell go.........what luck...thank you oh dark and depraved one

Barry
15-02-2015, 20:35
easy answer to this, tell them your a muslim and they should convert to islam lol

Even better - tell them you are a Jew! They don't like that at all. However far from getting rid of them, you could be kept at the door arguing for a very long time.

Marco
15-02-2015, 20:38
Even better - tell them you are a Jew!


Even better, tell them you're training to become a suicide bomber.

Marco.

struth
15-02-2015, 22:12
I usually say no thanks, I'm wee free! tell them they are sinners and devils and to go purify themselves pronto or they will spend an eternity in purgatory;)

In an Ian Paisley voice of course.

Marco
15-02-2015, 22:25
I'm wee free!

Really? That's not what the surface of your Shiatsu says! :eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
15-02-2015, 22:29
Really? That's not what the surface of your Shiatsu says! :eyebrows:

Marco.

:lol: naw, it says "TOO FREE" :eyebrows:

audioquiz
15-02-2015, 22:43
here is another answer, ask them if the economy is a good thing? they usually say they have to fit in to society and will abide by it.
but is'nt money the root of all evil?
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so now who's the sucker?

a comment from a friend of mine