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The Barbarian
13-01-2015, 23:14
I can think of a few but people never ever talk about how they make their money, ofc there's always the odd bragger. But in general they keep shtum! There's always me that is very very interesturd in knowing about it :D
walpurgis
13-01-2015, 23:25
Well don't look at me. I'm retired and on a pension. :D
Feelings! men, at least rarely talk about them(women rarely stop:eyebrows: ) ....as for money I made mine as a male stripper; and thats why i'm skint :doh:
Local government facilities management, altogether too boring to bring up in polite conversation really :)
Ali Tait
13-01-2015, 23:33
Not making any, out of a job at the mo. :-(
The Barbarian
13-01-2015, 23:36
Well don't look at me. I'm retired and on a pension. :D
Well this crap job im in at the min the wage slip makes me feel im drawing my pension already :rolleyes:
So how do you lot make your money, any tips :eyebrows:
These days, mostly rental income from property investment, together with what my art and picture framing business generates, which I’ve cut back on now, due to semi-retirement - and of course Del earns quite good money as a college lecturer :)
Anyway, I thought that sex gods were on mega-bucks! :D
Marco.
walpurgis
13-01-2015, 23:38
Feelings! men, at least rarely talk about them
I really don't have many "feelings". Probably got a bit jaded and 'heard it all before' at my age.
I don't like hearing about kids & animals having a bad time, but most other things tend to pass me by. Unless somebody is 'out of order', then I may show signs of 'feelings', but most of the time I go with the flow and little bothers me.
The Barbarian
13-01-2015, 23:38
Id jump at the chance of being a porn king but the Missus wont have none of it. Easy money i say :eyebrows:
walpurgis
13-01-2015, 23:39
Not making any, out of a job at the mo. :-(
Still no joy Ali? Sorry to hear that, it can't be much fun.
Id jump at the chance of being a porn king but the Missus wont have none of it. Easy money i say :eyebrows:
Get her involved, too - just think of all the possible scenarios! :whippin: :eek:
Marco.
Get her involved, too - just think of all the possible scenarios! :whippin: :eek:
Marco.
It's HARD work Marco :eyebrows:
walpurgis
13-01-2015, 23:49
I actually have a female aquaintance who'd probably jump at it (or on it), but at my age my abilities are not what they were. :(
Mr Kipling
14-01-2015, 00:03
Well at least I've had a good laugh tonight.
I flog me nads off in a factory for the minimum wage, which I have Labour to thank for, I suppose. The Tories said it would put millions on the dole - which it didn't.
Ali Tait
14-01-2015, 00:15
Still no joy Ali? Sorry to hear that, it can't be much fun.
Not just yet, but soon I hope.
walpurgis
14-01-2015, 00:18
Not just yet, but soon I hope.
Best of luck mate! :thumbsup:
Ali Tait
14-01-2015, 00:26
Cheers. :-)
The Barbarian
14-01-2015, 00:39
When i lost my last job virtually over night it took me around 12 weeks to find another, basic wage & low hours but at least it's a job. Easier to get a job once your in one i say. I have to cut back on the spending tho big time that why i just blew ober £100 on a set of TT feet
:D
dantheman91
14-01-2015, 06:23
Cleaning supervisor son............Everybody loves cleaning :lol:
Its a wage.......:)
No shame in it...........
StanleyB
14-01-2015, 07:58
I can think of a few but people never ever talk about how they make their money, ofc there's always the odd bragger. But in general they keep shtum! There's always me that is very very interested in knowing about it :D
You more or less answered the question. Damn if you do, and damn if you don't talk about it.
I had a funny experience on the 1st of Jan. My brother in law passed by for our traditional beginning of the year family dinner. Very few people in the family know what I actually do for a living. Most still think that I still work for my previous employer, and I never bothered to update them. Anyhow, we were playing some music and my brother in law noticed that I had a Caiman DAC and a Capella headphone amp. So he commented that I had treated myself to one of each as a Christmas present. But then he saw the name Beresford and it sort of hit him that there might be a connection somewhere. He was quite shocked that I was the same person that he had seen mentioned on forums and on ebay from time to time. I had never made it an issue to let my in-laws know what I do for a living these days.
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 08:53
I really don't have many "feelings". Probably got a bit jaded and 'heard it all before' at my age.
I don't like hearing about kids & animals having a bad time, but most other things tend to pass me by. Unless somebody is 'out of order', then I may show signs of 'feelings', but most of the time I go with the flow and little bothers me.
Oh gawd, its not just me then.
Ronnie gets terribly exited about everything she sees wrong with the world and gets quite upset when I tell her that whilst I agree in principle, I really don't care that much any more. Caring deeply about injustice etc is for the young or those that can do something about it. I did all that and now want to try and relax and enjoy whats left - which sadly, is not that much.
You get to the age where you really have seen it all before and there is nothing about humans and their squabbles about bugger all important that surprises.
Sad maybe but true. Just leave me alone to play.
People refuse to look into the science behind 9/11 and in particular allowed WTC7 to brush over them. I'm not saying I know who did it but there were demolition techniques employed for sure.
Oh it's about making money. I am a founding member of a digital marketing agency and mainly work with retail websites' development and marketing campaigns. I dropped out of teacher training and had a short stint in the army at 18. Have always been an IT geek though...
I've had a fair few jobs over the years - stacking shelves, tending bar, security guard, admin, credit controller, customer relations, sales, vehicle leasing and sales and now back in credit control for the last 8 years. None of them were well paid except for sales, and you really had to earn your money with that. Up until I started this job I always had a few other money-making irons on the fire to supplement my income. The best of those was internet poker: I had a system worked out and made quite a bit of money doing that in the evenings and weekends, more than my day job so when I got made redundant I went pro in 2006, - working from home 25 hours a week. Mmmm tax free income :) Got bored after 6 months sat in the house on my own so went back to working for the man.
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 09:01
On subject.....retired on pension but do regular shows selling my woodturnings which generate enough to keep the wolf from the door. Plus Ronnie runs an English Rose nursery. Now comfortable but far from flush. She gets her pension in July so I can spend a bit more of her money on some hi-fi.
Firebottle
14-01-2015, 09:06
Body odour and halitosis.
I had the unfortunate experience of working with a chap that had BO, in quite a small workshop. Never did get around to broaching the subject :eek:
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 09:38
Body odour and halitosis.
I had the unfortunate experience of working with a chap that had BO, in quite a small workshop. Never did get around to broaching the subject :eek:
Yikes yup!!!
I had a boss who thought that using deodorant was effeminate!! In the summer, we kept all the windows wide and only ventured into his office on matters of extreme urgency.I had a chat the day I left and he wondered why no-one had mentioned it before!!!!
jollyfix
14-01-2015, 09:48
Body odour and halitosis.
I had the unfortunate experience of working with a chap that had BO, in quite a small workshop
I know what you mean Alan, try sleeping on a tour bus with someone like that in the opposite bunk. Top tour bus tip number 12- take a tape measure to bed with you, you can pull out the tape, prod them with it until they turn around ( stink mouth not facing you), then retract tape.
I earn from walking about fields, stately home gardens, concert halls etc, with radio in one hand, phone in the other, whilst talking to some knuckle scraping roadies and ticking off some artist who though it was ok to take the key to his bands dressing room with him when he went into town, then showing said artist where to hide, as band wanted to give him a slap for making them wait in the greenroom with a band they did not get on with. Spinal Tap so true.
Many years ago i worked as a knife thrower for several circuses ( modern type, no red nose clowns to be seen).
When i was a young lad , i was a stone mason, still do the odd job, these days mainly bespoke bathrooms ( slate, trav etc).
Good to see you back Andre.... :)
There’s simply no excuse whatsoever for Bravo Oscar. A bit of soap and water costs nothing! :nono:
Marco.
A long time ago I worked in a hifi shop. Lots of fun but no money.
Then I worked for a hifi manufacturer. Lots of fun but not much more money.
Then I worked in another hifi shop. Lots of fun but even less money.
Then I worked for a TV factory. No fun at all, not much money.
Then I spent 20 years in a semiconductor factory. Interesting and fun, a bit more money but I got made redundant.
Then I was a self-employed mortgage advisor. Surprisingly enjoyable, almost made some money but 2006 wasn't a good year to start in finance.
Now I work 12 hour shifts in a call centre. Crap, but better than nothing.
Pensionable age in 2 years time, but probably can't afford to retire.
Not making any, out of a job at the mo. :-(
Sorry to hear that Ali. Been there myself and it's horrible :( Are you doing any voluntary work to fill in time? I've long gone past the time of hoping for long term work, although I really enjoy my current two 'jobs,' although neither are set in stone, as the contracted one could end in August (crossing fingers very hard it doesn't) and the other one varies, although I'd like to do this full time as I really love it and get to play more music :)
Ali Tait
14-01-2015, 11:12
Not unless you count doing a load of jobs for a new neighbour. My other half befriended her, she just moved in with her little girl from a women's refuge ( my other half having been in the same situation in the past), so I have been putting up blinds, curtain poles and things of that ilk.
Had a lot of calls from various agencies, hopefully should have something in the next couple of weeks.
walpurgis
14-01-2015, 11:29
People refuse to look into the science behind 9/11 and in particular allowed WTC7 to brush over them. I'm not saying I know who did it but there were demolition techniques employed for sure.
Do you really believe that?
Many think Kennedy was killed by the CIA and that the Moons Landings were 'faked'.
I just don't buy into the multitude of 'conspiracy theories' that abound. They seem to be an internet speciality these days. I have a friend who searches them out and believes the whole lot. Daft git.
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 11:50
Do you really believe that?
Many think Kennedy was killed by the CIA and that the Moons Landings were 'faked'.
I just don't buy into the multitude of 'conspiracy theories' that abound. They seem to be an internet speciality these days. I have a friend who searches them out and believes the whole lot. Daft git.
Yup,
Read them, discount 99% of them. You never know, there is always a chance of one or two of them being true but most stretch the incredulity just a little too far. 9/11 being a case in point, the explanations make perfect sense to me so I discount it. We have seen the mindset of people who would do this sort of stuff recently.
jollyfix
14-01-2015, 11:53
Had a lot of calls from various agencies, hopefully should have something in the next couple of weeks.
Good Luck Ali, hope it works out soon for you.
Ali Tait
14-01-2015, 11:55
Cheers Dave.
Do you really believe that?
Many think Kennedy was killed by the CIA and that the Moons Landings were 'faked'.
I just don't buy into the multitude of 'conspiracy theories' that abound. They seem to be an internet speciality these days. I have a friend who searches them out and believes the whole lot. Daft git.
Why not take a read for yourself?
http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html
PS I agree that conspiracy theories are mainly pretty nuts, but when science, engineering and evidence gets involved it moves beyond conspiracy theory and into media suppression.
People refuse to look into the science behind 9/11 and in particular allowed WTC7 to brush over them. I'm not saying I know who did it but there were demolition techniques employed for sure.
That particular rabbit hole is very deep, I've been exploring it for years...
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 13:42
Why not take a read for yourself?
http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html
I already have and still don't believe it. The chances that the 'truth' would come out just makes it unbelievable that even someone so stupid as the then president or even the CIA would take the risk.
My usual reply is bollocks.
If you go down that path you have to accept that the detonations were preplanned and not by the terrorists. You then have to ask why a!d who would get involved in what would be a gigantic conspiricy. Also how it has remained so with no one breaking ranks.
I already have and still don't believe it. The chances that the 'truth' would come out just makes it unbelievable that even someone so stupid as the then president or even the CIA would take the risk.
My usual reply is bollocks.
Actually, your reply is a great example of why the truth won't come out into mainstream acceptance.
Gordon Steadman
14-01-2015, 14:02
If you go down that path you have to accept that the detonations were preplanned and not by the terrorists. You then have to ask why a!d who would get involved in what would be a gigantic conspiricy. Also how it has remained so with no one breaking ranks.
What terrorists?:lol:
walpurgis
14-01-2015, 15:50
Actually, your reply is a great example of why the truth won't come out into mainstream acceptance.
What "truth"?
I've seen the hairbrained proposition that Thermite residues were detected. If you look at the combination of materials in the aircraft and the building structure and the burning temperatures achieved when aluminium combusts, which it did (as seen in video of the burning structures). That blows the Thermite theory out of the water, as the exact same residue constituents would be present after the fire and subsequently in the rubble of the collapsed towers.
I have to concur with Gordon. "My usual reply is bollocks".
What "truth"?
I've seen the hairbrained proposition that Thermite residues were detected. If you look at the combination of materials in the aircraft and the building structure and the burning temperatures achieved when aluminium combusts, which it did (as seen in video of the burning structures). That blows the Thermite theory out of the water, as the exact same residue constituents would be present after the fire and subsequently in the rubble of the collapsed towers.
I have to concur with Gordon. "My usual reply is bollocks".
To be honest I've always been more interested by WTC7, which was not hit by a plane, and is the first and only steel framed high rise in history to have dropped due to conventional fire - other skyscraper fires have really put the WTC7 fire to shame. It is also the only time in history where conventional fire has melted structural steel. Fires burn at around 825 degrees C, steel melts at over 1500 degrees C... Yeah it softens much before then, but melted steel was found at the WTC7 site including the very contentious "Swiss cheese" case...
Mr Kipling
14-01-2015, 19:05
What's really in that pork pie you're eating.
Don't ask… Just don't ask…
Someone told me they stuff them with weevils.
Marco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4PzpxOj5Cc
To be honest I've always been more interested by WTC7, which was not hit by a plane, and is the first and only steel framed high rise in history to have dropped due to conventional fire - other skyscraper fires have really put the WTC7 fire to shame. It is also the only time in history where conventional fire has melted structural steel. Fires burn at around 825 degrees C, steel melts at over 1500 degrees C... Yeah it softens much before then, but melted steel was found at the WTC7 site including the very contentious "Swiss cheese" case...
WTC7 is an interesting case but it is worth bearing in mind that neither WTC 1 or 2 collased because they were hit by a plane but because of the resulting fire. if there had been no fire they would have stayed standing. The fire weakened the metal trusses ('never trust a truss') causing the concrete floors they supported to collapse, 'pancaking' down in much the same way as they would do in a controlled demolition.
I'm not one to dismiss conspiracy theories out of hand; big secrets have been kept by a lot of people before: Operation Overlord, and Enigma from WWII for example; but see it here I don't.
Back on topic... I found my way into HR with a large government agency a couple of years ago following a redundancy from an economic development role I did for 9 years and loved.
In the interim I did a stint in Westminster in a mid level civil service role. It was quite an insight into the workings of the government machine. If you've ever seen 'in the thick of it' on tv then you sort of get the idea. It's scarily accurate that show.
These days my role is to act as bridge/facilitator between management and the 4 trade unions. I was previously a union branch secretary and treasurer so I manage the job with a fair bit of diplomacy.
In the past I've worked in call centers, as a chef in a late night comedy club (met all the big names before they were famous), as a runner a magistrates court, and even did a stint with the police when I was much younger but left because I'd have been an awful plod and conflicted terribly with my lifestyle at the time.
I also drove a van full of fish for a bit.
Oh gawd, its not just me then.
Ronnie gets terribly exited about everything she sees wrong with the world and gets quite upset when I tell her that whilst I agree in principle, I really don't care that much any more. Caring deeply about injustice etc is for the young or those that can do something about it. I did all that and now want to try and relax and enjoy whats left - which sadly, is not that much.
You get to the age where you really have seen it all before and there is nothing about humans and their squabbles about bugger all important that surprises.
Sad maybe but true. Just leave me alone to play.
I'm with Ronnie on this one. Injustice burns and the burn never goes away. Propaganda goes like: 'its time to move on'. WTF are they on about with 'its time to move on' - Someone is missing a hand, an arm, a career, their children, their reputation. You don't move on from injustice. But it gets worse - think of all these "senseless" mass shootings we see. They are not senseless at all - they have wrong sense but they are not senseless. Here is a thought: For every Dunblane there must be a thousand cases that came within an inch of that.
Gordon Steadman
15-01-2015, 13:07
I'm with Ronnie on this one. Injustice burns and the burn never goes away. Propaganda goes like: 'its time to move on'. WTF are they on about with 'its time to move on' - Someone is missing a hand, an arm, a career, their children, their reputation. You don't move on from injustice. But it gets worse - think of all these "senseless" mass shootings we see. They are not senseless at all - they have wrong sense but they are not senseless. Here is a thought: For every Dunblane there must be a thousand cases that came within an inch of that.
i can't argue with the sentiment but really, once you get to my age, you have seen so much stupidity, violence, intolerance, warmongering and more, much more stupidity, that you just want to try and cocoon yourself in a little sanity. That means trying hard to ignore all the shit out there. I know trying to create your own little world is bound to fail ultimately but it has a great attraction.
I often wonder why it matters to us that people we don't know and have never even met are suffering. It's counter-productive and consequently unlikely to be an evolutionary develpment so it must be social conditioning: we feel obliged to try to empathise.
probably a bit of both Martin but without the ability to feel others pain and at times share in it we as people probably cannot survive. it is this ability that has made us what we are. occasionally it gets pushed aside; sometimes through nescessity and occasionally buried out of shear greed and jealousy then you get anything from outrages to ethnic cleansing. not a place id want to go.
i might add though that we all are more likely to be concerned with the little cut on our finger than the death of a 100 kids in a place like africa sadly.
Gordon Steadman
15-01-2015, 14:50
I think the terrifying thing is that its all been going on for ever, all over the world but most people were isolated from it by lack of knowledge. Nowadays, the world has shrunk and its getting smaller by the day. The internet brings us each new horror ten minutes after it happened and sometimes live.
I'm not sure that it's going to change sadly. Man's nature seems to be beyond my understanding. Not all of us suffer from altruistic genes it seems, thinking another person's life is as important as your own, seems to be a minority interest.
Until, the whole world see stuff the same way, its going to be join my gang or.................
I can think of a few but people never ever talk about how they make their money, ofc there's always the odd bragger. But in general they keep shtum! There's always me that is very very interesturd in knowing about it :D
I don't understand why anyone would (or want to) post private information on a public forum; you may think you are addressing a small group of friends but, in reality, anyone can choose to read it.
jollyfix
15-01-2015, 15:51
you may think you are addressing a small group of friends but, in reality, anyone can choose to read it.
Very true, thats why i don't give details ( company names, or even what i actually do etc), i am fully aware it is an open forum. There are some members on AOS who kind of know what i do for a living, and totally understand why i do not tell people.
Gordon Steadman
15-01-2015, 15:54
Well, I reckon most people have been reasonably vague. Anyone who gives more detail than they would wish others to know is a bit daft aren't they?
I don't understand why anyone would (or want to) post private information on a public forum; you may think you are addressing a small group of friends but, in reality, anyone can choose to read it.
I don't think saying 'I'm a doctor' or 'I'm a binman' is really going to help out a Nigerian fraudster but then what do I know?
anthonyTD
15-01-2015, 16:40
+1
probably a bit of both Martin but without the ability to feel others pain and at times share in it we as people probably cannot survive. it is this ability that has made us what we are. occasionally it gets pushed aside; sometimes through nescessity and occasionally buried out of shear greed and jealousy then you get anything from outrages to ethnic cleansing. not a place id want to go.
anthonyTD
15-01-2015, 16:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxzWpy7PKg
Some may not have liked the man, or his politics, but IMHO this famous speech puts things into perspective.
I don't think saying 'I'm a doctor' or 'I'm a binman' is really going to help out a Nigerian fraudster but then what do I know?
No, I shouldn't think so either - but then that wasn't really what I was trying to say.
Mr Kipling
15-01-2015, 19:08
You more or less answered the question. Damn if you do, and damn if you don't talk about it.
I had a funny experience on the 1st of Jan. My brother in law passed by for our traditional beginning of the year family dinner. Very few people in the family know what I actually do for a living. Most still think that I still work for my previous employer, and I never bothered to update them. Anyhow, we were playing some music and my brother in law noticed that I had a Caiman DAC and a Capella headphone amp. So he commented that I had treated myself to one of each as a Christmas present. But then he saw the name Beresford and it sort of hit him that there might be a connection somewhere. He was quite shocked that I was the same person that he had seen mentioned on forums and on ebay from time to time. I had never made it an issue to let my in-laws know what I do for a living these days.
Was your brother-in-law not in awe? And did you not feel just a trifle smug, and wallow in the moment?
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