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Yomanze
13-01-2015, 13:10
Mint and unused - RRP is £495, yours for £395 + P&P.

Bored of the usual Rega recommendations and want a genuine step up?

Helius these days have a very low profile in the UK, instead depending on word of mouth and export markets, both of which mean the company is doing well.

Does marketing make any difference to sound quality? Of course not!

This is the top version of the Scorpio 4, which is 10" arm length instead of 9" and single strand silver wired.

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/neil_yeomans/IMG_40341_zps183a1003.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/neil_yeomans/IMG_40391_zpsc37642d5.jpg

Review is here: http://dagogo.com/helius-designs-scorpio-4-tonearm-review

Extract from the review here:

"So, how did the Helius Scorpio 4 compare to other arms I have used? The answer is, with the right cartridges it will hold its own with all I have listened to in my system. That would include the Tri-planar, the 12-inch Ortofon, Helius Omega Silver-Ruby, SME 3009 and SME 3012. No, it’s not as refined sounding as the Helius Omega Silver-Ruby or the Tri-Planar. It is definitely not as extended on top or quite as detailed as these two arms, but the Scorpio 4 is close and it is very musically satisfying."

Bearing assembly here, note the tetrahedral bearings, invented by Helius and *ahem* borrowed by others...

http://dagogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/HeliusScorpio4-3.jpg

Other pics:

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/neil_yeomans/IMG_40321_zpsbd3a2f0b.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i405/neil_yeomans/IMG_4041_zpsb5368d04.jpg
daytona600
14-01-2015, 10:22
have one of these myself & bargain at this price

Retail Prices:


Helius Scorpio 4 tonearm.
9 Inch Effective Length Version
-With Pure Copper Internal Wire: $1050.00
-With Pure Silver Litz Internal Wire: $1325.00

10 Inch Effective Length Version
-With Pure Copper Internal Wire: $1200.00
-With Pure Silver Litz Internal Wire: $1500.00
Yomanze
14-01-2015, 10:27
have one of these myself & bargain at this price

Retail Prices:


Helius Scorpio 4 tonearm.
9 Inch Effective Length Version
-With Pure Copper Internal Wire: $1050.00
-With Pure Silver Litz Internal Wire: $1325.00

10 Inch Effective Length Version
-With Pure Copper Internal Wire: $1200.00
-With Pure Silver Litz Internal Wire: $1500.00

Wow didn't think the prices were like that. What do you think of it? In honesty I've never had the chance to use it, but am starting to think whether I should keep it for a rainy day - I have a Systemdek Transcription that I wanted to restore & add this Scorpio 4 onto.
daytona600
16-01-2015, 09:34
have one on a Artemis Labs SA1 with a Cadenza Black


http://dagogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/HeliusScorpio4-4.jpg


So, how did the Helius Scorpio 4 compare to other arms I have used? The answer is, with the right cartridges it will hold its own with all I have listened to in my system. That would include the Tri-planar, the 12-inch Ortofon, Helius Omega Silver-Ruby, SME 3009 and SME 3012. No, it’s not as refined sounding as the Helius Omega Silver-Ruby or the Tri-Planar. It is definitely not as extended on top or quite as detailed as these two arms, but the Scorpio 4 is close and it is very musically satisfying. As well, I should say it’s not as relaxed as the two 12-inch arms I have mentioned. Still, for the money it’s closer than it should be to the best of these arms.
Yomanze
28-01-2015, 20:42
Bump, so indeed this version sells via dealerships in Australia for £700-odd.
Yomanze
02-02-2015, 11:28
Bump, it's also on eBay at the same price.
Yomanze
02-02-2015, 11:32
Bump, it's also on eBay at the same price.

As my seller fee would be £40 on eBay am willing to drop the price to £355.

As you can see, build quality is way higher than the Helius Scorpio arms of old. There's still a bit of "cottage industry" about it, finish not up there with an SME for example, but the bearing assembly, arm assembly and wiring are right up there in terms of quality.
ovlov854
04-02-2015, 11:42
Hello.......Can you tell me what sort of mount this arm has?
I am contemplating fitting it to a TT with either SME or Rega fit
Do you have all the fitting info and the arm template?
Yomanze
04-02-2015, 12:35
Hello.......Can you tell me what sort of mount this arm has?
I am contemplating fitting it to a TT with either SME or Rega fit
Do you have all the fitting info and the arm template?

Hi, yes I have all fitting info and templates. It is a Helius-specific mounting arrangement, but some more "universal" mounting plates will take the arm no problem, or you can get a Helius armboard made up.

Thanks,

Neil
Yomanze
04-02-2015, 17:11
Let me take a look at the manual for you. Will feedback in an hour or so.
daytona600
06-02-2015, 11:22
38mm cut-out i think from memory