View Full Version : Time to replace the car stereo system….
Ok, the Harman Kardon stereo/Sat-Nav system in the Merc has had its day, kaput, as in it no-worky - amp and head-unit both. I’m told by the local dealership that it’s going to cost £3k to replace them (and it’s an old system which would be getting replaced, fitted to a car that’s seven years old). So I think :eek: :eek: ‘fook that’!! :nono: :nono:
So what to do? Have a rethink and go for plan B, of course: a complete rebuild...
Since I’ve been dealing with Kevin at BM Wizard (see the existing thread in Abstract Chat), recently for all my car servicing, and finding out that he’s also a wiz at fitting in-car stereo systems, I give the job to him instead, and chose all the necessary components from a company Kevin highly recommends, called Car Audio Security: http://caraudiosecurity.com/
I wanted to spend less than the £3k quoted for the (now outdated) HK system, and also achieve a significant upgrade at the same time, sonically, and in terms of having a goodly dose of some up-to-date technology, and as I wanted to use JBL speakers, being a long-time fan of the brand, the net result is this……...
Head unit: Kenwood DNX-4250DAB - Double-Din CD/DVD Sat-Nav DAB Bluetooth Stereo System. This has almost every toy you can imagine, including DAB radio [see here http://caraudiosecurity.com/dnx-4250dab-double-din-cd-dvd-sat-nav-dab-bluetooth-stereo ] (£689.99):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/RTvzF5.jpg
JBL MS-52C - 2 way 13cm units (including crossovers and matching tweeters), for the front speakers (£149.99):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/912/RPhtQk.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/673/5gpfNW.jpg
JBL GTO529 - 5.25"/13cm 135W speakers, for the rear door speakers (£89.99):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/913/kYPSFn.jpg
JBL GTO-1214BR - 12" Bass Reflex Enclosure Ported Subwoofer (£109.99):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/911/AGbROk.jpg
JBL GTO-804EZ - 4 Channel Power Amplifier, 200W [used in bridged mode] (£179.99):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/661/4iRkI1.jpg
And all hooked up with this stuff: Connection, by Audison S 210 - 10 Gauge speaker cable (£11.50 per metre):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/661/nlx4tc.jpg
I’ll also by adding some Dynamat sound-deadening material throughout the car, but don’t know exactly how much yet to work out an exact cost.
Cost so far: £1219.95 (excluding speaker cable, as I don’t know exactly how much will be needed, Dynamat, and labour).
All will be getting fitted next week. I’ll take some pics when it’s installed and report on how it sounds… Happy Christmas to me!! :carrot: :cool:
Marco.
The Black Adder
17-12-2014, 20:49
Mercs are superb for sound systems. That should sound fookin great!
One of these is cheaper ;) http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/Ud4AAOSwdpxUW02I/$_57.JPG
Lol - ok, I’ll go with that instead and spend the change on wine, women and song! :D
Marco.
Mercs are superb for sound systems. That should sound fookin great!
Here’s hoping, Joe. Should be a giggle, anyway, as I’ve never had this type of stereo system in a car, so I haven’t a clue what to expect! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Personally I'd change the mota:eek:
:lolsign:
Nope, not gonna happen!
Marco.
:lolsign:
Nope, not gonna happen!
Marco.
I lost the radio in my ten year old van and that was the start of the end for that van:lol:
Lol - ok, I’ll go with that instead and spend the change on wine, women and song! :D
Marco.
Give up with the singing and you'll have more to spend on the wine and the women! :D
Looks pretty good Marco.
I'm sure your installer knows this - but just checking - you will need a couple of tweeters at around ear level. If they are co-axial (and not removable) they will be poor sounding; directionality of high frequencies an' all that.
Does the system play flac and/or mp3? I find that music (mp3 at 320) played from a flash drive sounds better than CD. I dont think it is possible to totally remove vibration from the CD player.
One more thing: I doubt you will be doing the installation of the dynamat, but if you are then let me know - I can offer a couple of tips.
The Kenwood hasn't got aptX Bluetooth in case you weren't aware... that is 1 better than A2DP i.e. it is lossless.
So unless you are big style into Bluetooth, which I suspect you are not as you'd know, don't worry.
BUT if you plan on using your phone a lot with say TIDAL lossless which allows you to buffer albums on the device, you won't be up there with the best quality available.
I know this because I have just told my wife to buy an aptX Sound Blaster E5 headphone amp for the aux input in my car for Xmas. The aux input lacks sensitivity so needs an amp.
tubehunter
18-12-2014, 00:24
you could try and find one of these :)
http://www.noisemademedoit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/car_record_player.jpg
Stratmangler
18-12-2014, 00:40
You tryin' to wake up the passengers in the hearse, Marco? :eyebrows:
you could try and find one of these :)
http://www.noisemademedoit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/car_record_player.jpg
That is wonderful.
Hi Andrei,
I'm sure your installer knows this - but just checking - you will need a couple of tweeters at around ear level. If they are co-axial (and not removable) they will be poor sounding; directionality of high frequencies an' all that.
Yup, ’tis sorted!
Does the system play flac and/or mp3? I find that music (mp3 at 320) played from a flash drive sounds better than CD.
I’m pretty sure it does, certainly mp3. It defo does more than enough for my needs. The plan is to just get it installed and then play with it and get to know all the functions.
I dont think it is possible to totally remove vibration from the CD player.
Probably not, but we’ll do what we can in that respect.
One more thing: I doubt you will be doing the installation of the dynamat, but if you are then let me know - I can offer a couple of tips.
Nope, not me. The installer will. Tips are always useful though, so fire away! :)
Marco.
Hi Justin,
The Kenwood hasn't got aptX Bluetooth in case you weren't aware... that is 1 better than A2DP i.e. it is lossless.
So unless you are big style into Bluetooth, which I suspect you are not as you'd know, don't worry.
Cheers, but in that respect I’ll not be worrying ;)
BUT if you plan on using your phone a lot with say TIDAL lossless which allows you to buffer albums on the device, you won't be up there with the best quality available.
I know this because I have just told my wife to buy an aptX Sound Blaster E5 headphone amp for the aux input in my car for Xmas. The aux input lacks sensitivity so needs an amp.
First of all, I’d have to buy a smart phone which can do all of those things, as my current ancient one wouldn’t even know what that was! :eyebrows:
However, an Apple ithingy will be added in due course. The stereo system was never designed to be ‘state of the art’, but rather just something much better than I had, and in that respect I’m quite looking forward to hearing the results :cool:
Marco.
you could try and find one of these :)
http://www.noisemademedoit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/car_record_player.jpg
Now that would be drop-dead cool!! :drool:
Marco.
You tryin' to wake up the passengers in the hearse, Marco? :eyebrows:
Hahahahahahaha…. The bass-bin in the boot will probably cause enough of a din to wake the dead! :D
Hey, it might even sound better than the old Tannoys in my ‘broom cupboard’, so I could find myself sitting inside the car all day instead!! :lol:
Marco.
you could try and find one of these :)
http://www.noisemademedoit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/car_record_player.jpg
Never mind the record player, the interior of that car is just totally way out groovy. They don't make 'em like them used to!
Hi Justin,
Cheers, but in that respect I’ll not be worrying ;)
First of all, I’d have to buy a smart phone that can do all of those things, as my current ancient one wouldn’t even know what that was! :eyebrows:
However, an Apple ithingy will be added in due course. The stereo system was never designed to be ‘state of the art’, but rather just something much better than I had, and in that respect I’m quite looking forward to hearing the results :cool:
Marco.
Well I suspect you'll use A2DP then cos hardwiring in a car when the iThang will auto-connect over the air is a PITA. A2DP sounds acceptable enough.
Enjoy car systems can sound simply great. Background noise withstanding!
Well I suspect you'll use A2DP then cos hardwiring in a car when the iThang will auto-connect over the air is a PITA. A2DP sounds acceptable enough.
It’ll be more than acceptable enough. The primary use of the stereo will be to play CDs, mostly those I’ve ripped from my vinyl set-up. I also wanted a quality up-to-date Sat/Nav system and DAB radio.
Enjoy car systems can sound simply great. Background noise withstanding!
As Joe says, that’s something big Mercs are particularly good at. There’s precious little background noise inside their solidly constructed, luxury cabs, or from their super-smooth engines. If the road surface is good, I can cruise along at 100mph (as I do when on the Autobahn in Germany) and only hear a gentle swish! :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
18-12-2014, 11:01
lol.. Del would never see you. :)
I've just done 13 years with Mercs... moved on now. Some of the recent diesels I test drove (a few months ago) though were super noisy when accelerating. Fine when cruising. When I got back to the dealership continually complaining about it they conceded they'd never be as nice as the 3L petrol V6 in my last Merc. Mind you that ate petrol but IMHO that was worth paying for.
Trying to avoid the noise on the GLA, I tried the 250 and came back with 21.7 MPG on the clock. No way...:D
I've just done 13 years with Mercs... moved on now. Some of the recent diesels I test drove (a few months ago) though were super noisy when accelerating...
That’s why I don’t like the new Mercs - every time I drive a new C-Class (not to mention how ‘boy-racer/blingy’ it looks, both inside and out), I can’t wait to get back into my own car. For me, the 2007 models were the last of the ‘proper Mercs’.
I’d never go back to a petrol car, though. I love the sheer torque and frightening power of a nice big (tuned) diesel engine! :)
Marco.
you need to drive an AMG then, make the diesel seem slow
Ok, Santa must be looking after me, as I’ve just received a wee Christmas bonus…
Haggling for a discount, as one does, with the company supplying all the parts, because I’m spending quite a bit of dosh, they’ve told me that I can have the superior model Kenwood head unit, the DNN-6250DAB - 6.1" WiFi Double DIN CD DVD Sat Nav with DAB, instead of the previous model I listed, so I’ll now be using one of these chaps, which does the Wi-Fi thing too, and has a more up-to-date Sat/Nav system:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/hQn6J8.jpg
Full details here: http://caraudiosecurity.com/dnn-6250dab-6-1-wifi-double-din-cd-dvd-sat-nav-with-dab
Not only that, they’re also going to chuck in the current models, which have replaced the front speakers I was going to get, that are much better (and now also match the rear door speakers):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/Omv5wP.jpg
Info here: http://winauto.ua/manuals/en/Manual-Car-speakers-JBL-GTO-609C.pdf
Matching rear door speakers in question:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/Bu44Yc.jpg
What JBL say about them:
The JBL® GTO Series of high-fidelity automotive speakers feature innovative technologies that we’ve engineered for the environment and for the conditions in today’s cars to help them deliver exceptional sound. Using Plus One® (U.S. patent no. 7,548,631) woofer-cone technology and rugged construction materials such as carbon-composite frames, butyl-rubber surrounds and fabric tweeter diaphragms, plus UniPivot™ (U.S. patent no. 6,002,780) tweeter positioning on select coaxial models and the I-Mount™ (U.S. patent no. 5,859,917) system for the tweeters in the component separates, GTO Series automotive speakers are the ideal upgrade for any car’s audio system.
And on YouTube:
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Happy days!! :yay: :yay:
Marco.
you need to drive an AMG then, make the diesel seem slow
Depends on the size of engine and other factors, Mark. My C320CDI (Avantgarde SE) has been remapped to just under 300bhp. Besides, I’m not out to have the fastest car on the road - just a nice quick, comfortable one, that’s fun to drive and puts a smile on my face every time I get behind the wheel.
That’ll be even more the case now when this new stereo is fitted! :)
Marco.
Hmm.. Looking at AMG E class estates at the moment myself. Current twin turbos are very very rapid, and the engine note means that you won't want a stereo to drown it out (unlike my e320 cdi, which sounds... like a diesel)
I only listen to talking books cd's when in the car tbh so I great stereo is not a priority.....Love my Flashman cd's; I have them all on cd bar 2 which I cannot get ggrrr
Hmm.. Looking at AMG E class estates at the moment myself. Current twin turbos are very very rapid, and the engine note means that you won't want a stereo to drown it out (unlike my e320 cdi, which sounds... like a diesel)
That’s a strange one, Alex, because mine really doesn’t *sound* like a diesel at all (as quite a few petrol car drivers have commented)… Indeed, when I drove a brand new petrol C-Class recently, as a loan car, while mine was at the dealership getting something done, it didn’t really sound much different to my own car, apart from lacking the ‘oomph’ I’m used to.
The noise from the engine in mine doesn’t sound much like anything, really, just a quiet-ish ‘purr’…. There is no clunkiness or ‘tractor-like’ noise, such as one usually expects from diesels :)
Marco.
I only listen to talking books cd's when in the car tbh so I great stereo is not a priority.....Love my Flashman cd's; I have them all on cd bar 2 which I cannot get ggrrr
Have you still got the one where that deep-voiced bird insults you rather rudely in Swahili? :eyebrows:
Marco.
Get yerself an Enterprise edition Citreon Nemo 1.4i van, comes with a coat hook (I shit you not) and an arm rest, I love it.
Tony.
PS, bet you don't have a coat hook in yer merc Marco?:eek:
Surprisingly, no! Does it improve aerodynamics? :D
Marco.
Surprisingly, no! Does it improve aerodynamics? :D
Marco.
No, but it it's great for hanging up yer jaiket:eek:
Have you still got the one where that deep-voiced bird insults you rather rudely in Swahili? :eyebrows:
Marco.
Yep! Aliyepandisha wengine ngazini, hupigwa teke menoni.
Can I have that with poppadoms?
Marco.
You can have anything with Poppadoms, and you often do :eyebrows:
although not Mel's ;)
Tips are always useful though, so fire away!
Marco.
The whole thing looks juicier and juicier Marco. Regarding the dynamat: it is swings and roundabouts. The good news is that you can put it 'everywhere' - both internal door panels, in the footwells, boot. The bad news is that it costs. Not only is it expensive in its own right, but because of its weight you will now have a heavier wagon. Another thing to consider is the sound-absorbing panels they have for placing opposite the speaker baskets. I have not tried them as I thought just one per speaker would not be effective and to use four or nine was pushing the price up. The main things to remember in application is to clean the surface it is going on, and above all a proper roller is essential for application. If you want to go all out you can change your tyres to low noise. I used Bridgestones - the RE001s that I believe have now been superseded. They take a couple of decibels off the road noise.
You can have anything with Poppadoms, and you often do :eyebrows:
although not Mel's ;)
Hehehehe… Btw, it’s DEL!
Marco.
Hehehehe… Btw, it’s DEL!
Marco.
OOPS!!! tpyo :D
Hi Andrei,
The whole thing looks juicier and juicier Marco.
Yeah, hopefully it will kick some ass! :gig:
Regarding the dynamat: it is swings and roundabouts. The good news is that you can put it 'everywhere' - both internal door panels, in the footwells, boot. The bad news is that it costs. Not only is it expensive in its own right, but because of its weight you will now have a heavier wagon.
Because the car is pretty solid, I’ll only be doing the door panels and boot. The guy’s also given me a deal on the Dynamat, so it’s worked out pretty good :)
The main things to remember in application is to clean the surface it is going on, and above all a proper roller is essential for application.
Nice one, I’ll pass that info on! :thumbsup:
If you want to go all out you can change your tyres to low noise. I used Bridgestones - the RE001s that I believe have now been superseded. They take a couple of decibels off the road noise.
Got Pirelli P-Zeros fitted, which are pretty good in that respect, although they’re very low-profile, so you know what that means... :eyebrows:
Marco.
......and here was me wondering if I should give my Cleet and Gird a rubdown:doh:
I only listen to talking books cd's when in the car tbh so I great stereo is not a priority.....Love my Flashman cd's; I have them all on cd bar 2 which I cannot get ggrrr
I've read them all! I have great empathy, or should I say synergy, with villians. Got one book as an mp3 which we listened to on our car system. It was the one where he throws his mistress out of the troika to assist in his escape!
Got Pirelli P-Zeros fitted, which are pretty good in that respect, although they’re very low-profile, so you know what that means... :eyebrows:
Marco.
Hang on a minute. If that means what I think it means then aren't you at risk of the coffin flying out the back?
......and here was me wondering if I should give my Cleet and Gird a rubdown:doh:
Sorry, mate, you’ve lost me there! :lol:
:scratch:
Marco.
http://www.goodhuman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/boys-gird-n-cleek.jpg
VROOM VROOM:lol:
Hang on a minute. If that means what I think it means then aren't you at risk of the coffin flying out the back?
Yeah, and we charge extra for that.
Marco.
http://www.goodhuman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/boys-gird-n-cleek.jpg
VROOM VROOM:lol:
Ah, I see… For a minute I thought you were 'rubbing down' something else! :D
Marco.
No, just all the talk of low profile tyres, and thought you'd like mine:D
Well, those are VERY ‘low’! :respect:
So is that the sort of stuff folk get up to in Bathgate? I can see how the time must fly by… :eyebrows:
Marco.
Yep! we are just a poor old mining community mate; canny afford fancy wheels :D .....audio has to be on a budget too, but it does us deaf old hicks :eyebrows:
I thought these were your wheels:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/8doXeV.jpg
Marco.
Got one but smaller wheels...it's on charge now actually
Quite fancy th a t one
Thought you might!
Anyway, here’s a video showing a similar system to the one I’ll be getting installed in my car, from the same company (Car Audio Security). The fat bloke’s rather annoying, but other than that it’s quite good. Love the Audi!! :drool:
https://youtu.be/Dy90al-vtCY
Dy90al-vtCY
Marco.
A bit tricky at 90 on motorway lol. I'll stick to old tech
Gordon Steadman
19-12-2014, 07:14
. Love the Audi!!
Marco.
Your eyes must be as good as my ears. I've never seen such a disgusting colour combination. Lime green interior with a yucky blue paint job.:no:
It’s called ‘sporty', Gordon! ;)
Marco.
Gordon Steadman
19-12-2014, 07:37
It’s called ‘sporty', Gordon! ;)
Marco.
Hmm...... my thesaurus doesn't seem to equate 'sporty' with 'colour blind':lol:
Lol… I know where you’re coming from. It’s the interior I love more. If it were my car, the exterior would’ve been black - now that would’ve made the lime green interior look really sexy!
I think the current Audis are superb cars (especially the RS range), nicer than the comparable Mercs and BMWs I’ve seen, so when my current jalopy has seen better days, it’ll most likely land an Audi. Something like this would hit the spot nicely:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/audi/2014-audi-rs8-ar146596.html
Yum, yum! :exactly:
Marco.
Gordon Steadman
19-12-2014, 08:31
Lol… I know where you’re coming from. It’s the interior I love more. If it were my car, the exterior would’ve been black - now that would’ve made the lime green interior look really sexy!
I think the current Audis are superb cars (especially the RS range), nicer than the comparable Mercs and BMWs I’ve seen, so when my current jalopy has seen better days, it’ll most likely land an Audi. Something like this would hit the spot nicely:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/audi/2014-audi-rs8-ar146596.html
Yum, yum! :exactly:
Marco.
Not bad...I, of course, already drive an Audi:eyebrows:
Of course, what you should both be driving is a Jag XF Sportbrake, but then I'm a Jag man, or would be if I could afford one :lol: Our current jalopy sports a supercharger... :ner: :sofa:
Somehow, I had you down as a Jag man, dahling :eyebrows:
Marco.
Not bad...I, of course, already drive an Audi:eyebrows:
Is it from this century, though? :D
Anyway, an interesting thing that was mentioned in the video was how inexpensive the JBL kit (amps and speakers) were, yet how superb it all sounded, considering the price. That (and the fact that I’m a bit of a JBL fanboy) was exactly the reason why I went for JBL - it’s the old AoS SPPV thing!
Quite simply, JBL have hugely larger resources than most other car amp/loudspeaker manufacturers (together with a fantastic heritage), so are able to take advantage of ‘economies of scale’, thus producing stuff at affordable prices other (smaller, more niche) manufacturers would charge much more for, but that the JBL stuff can compete with in sound quality.
In that respect, it was rather interesting that the chap from Car Audio Security, who could’ve fitted anything he wanted in that Audi, chose JBL ;)
Marco.
I've had a fairly extended listen to the JBL co-axial drivers (although it was on a boat rather than in a car) and they are pretty impressive. Should all sound very good, Marco.
Cheers, mate. You’re hear it next time you’re in the car, if the stereo is fitted by then. Talking of which, what’s your Xmas hols like - fancy another sesh, chez-moi, over the hols? :)
Marco.
Is it from this century, though? :D
Anyway, an interesting thing that was mentioned in the video was how inexpensive the JBL kit (amps and speakers) were, yet how superb it all sounded, considering the price. That (and the fact that I’m a bit of a JBL fanboy) was exactly the reason why I went for JBL - it’s the old AoS SPPV thing!
Quite simply, JBL have hugely larger resources than most other car amp/loudspeaker manufacturers (together with a fantastic heritage), so are able to take advantage of ‘economies of scale’, thus producing stuff at affordable prices other (smaller, more niche) manufacturers would charge much more for, but that the JBL stuff can compete with in sound quality.
In that respect, it was rather interesting that the chap from Car Audio Security, who could’ve fitted anything he wanted in that Audi, chose JBL ;)
Marco.
Not sure about the current range as I have been out of the game for a few years, but back in the mid 'noughties' when I used to sell ICE gear Infinity speakers were up there with JBL, both brands had their loyal followers and each would claim their choice was the right one, much like the domestic scene... :D
I'm impressed by that RS4 install it is very neatly executed. One thing which did concern me though is the touch screen on that head unit, it's a bit clunky and slow to respond to inputs. The one in my motor responds to the touch instantly...
Indeed. Luckily, that’s not the one I’m getting! ;)
Agreed on Infinity. That would be the other brand I’d be looking at. Interesting vid on YouTube, on the JBL power amp:
https://youtu.be/7YTEMQCAJ4E
7YTEMQCAJ4E
I’m looking forward to fiddling with dem knobs! :eyebrows:
Also, cool idea having the set-up CD - makes life a whole lot simpler :)
Marco.
The amps are mighty fine with features one could only dream of in this price bracket when I used to sell this sort of kit :)
Ah but Marco, you know how to set up a sub properly, unlike the majority of kiddies I'd serve back in the day. Our installation engineer would carefully calibrate everything before it left the workshop only for said kiddy to turn up back at the shop a few days later wondering why his amp/speakers (or both) had blown when he turned everything up to 'eleven'... :rolleyes:
Thought you might!
Anyway, here’s a video showing a similar system to the one I’ll be getting installed in my car, from the same company (Car Audio Security). The fat bloke’s rather annoying, but other than that it’s quite good. Love the Audi!! :drool:
Dy90al-vtCY
Marco.
Put that bass unit in the back of my Punto and inside a week it'd be full of mud, sand and sweet wrappers!
Maybe there was and they cleaned it all up before shooting the video? :D
Marco.
The amps are mighty fine with features one could only dream of in this price bracket when I used to sell this sort of kit :)
Ah but Marco, you know how to set up a sub properly, unlike the majority of kiddies I'd serve back in the day. Our installation engineer would carefully calibrate everything before it left the workshop only for said kiddy to turn up back at the shop a few days later wondering why his amp/speakers (or both) had blown when he turned everything up to 'eleven'... :rolleyes:
I promise I won’t be driving around Wrexham with the windows down, playing some gangsta rap so loudly that you hear the bass coming before me! :fingers: :hairmetal:
Marco.
Gordon Steadman
19-12-2014, 11:53
I never listen to music in the car except when I'm parked somewhere. My built in system plays my cassettes beautifully:lol:
I promise I won’t be driving around Wrexham with the windows down, playing some gangsta rap so loudly that you hear the bass coming before me! :fingers: :hairmetal:
Marco.
You own a black Merc on big rims fitted with privacy glass, it's gotta be done geezer... ::yesbruv: :lol:
I promise I won’t be driving around Wrexham with the windows down, playing some gangsta rap so loudly that you hear the bass coming before me! :fingers: :hairmetal:
Marco.
Now I'm confused. What's the point if you're NOT going to be doing that ? ;)
You own a black Merc on big rims fitted with privacy glass, it's gotta be done geezer... ::yesbruv: :lol:
Shit, I never thought about it like that…. Maybe I should be selling some primo-ganja and China White, too? :smoking: :peace:
Marco.
Now I'm confused. What's the point if you're NOT going to be doing that ? ;)
Ok, you can come with me and we’ll try and pull a Lindsey Lohan lookalike! :eyebrows:
Btw, did you see post #64?
Marco.
Shit, I never thought about it like that…. Maybe I should be selling some primo-ganja and China White, too? :smoking: :peace:
Marco.
I'm sat here trying to visualize what an Anglo.Scot/Italian Raster would look and sound like... :rfl:
Gordon Steadman
19-12-2014, 12:38
There is a CD changer in the boot that I have never played with.
Not to thread crap but I believe that driving needs 100% concentration, especially at the speeds I tend to use habitually. Music would grab my attention and take it away from the road and surroundings. People think that Ronnie and I are not speaking when I drive. Its true, we don't.
I can't remember ever having the music on when driving, even when I were a lad. Mind you, that is such a long time ago that memory may not be entirely accurate.
I'm sat here trying to visualize what an Anglo.Scot/Italian Raster would look and sound like... :rfl:
Whatever it would be, I don’t think it should be let loose near women and children! :nono:
Marco.
Ok, you can come with me and we’ll try and pull a Lindsey Lohan lookalike! :eyebrows:
Btw, did you see post #64?
Marco.
We can try...
I am here on my todd for Xmas then off to Nottingham for a few days on the 27th to meet up with family then back to work on the second of Jan so not going to be too easy to fit anything else in, unfortunately.
Not to thread crap but I believe that driving needs 100% concentration, especially at the speeds I tend to use habitually. Music would grab my attention and take it away from the road and surroundings. People think that Ronnie and I are not speaking when I drive. Its true, we don't.
That’s an interesting point, Gordon. Del and I do talk when we’re in the car and I’m driving, but not a lot, as I too find it distracting. *However*, not so with the RIGHT music…
When I’m in the car I tend to play what I call ‘driving music’, which is usually some throbbing metal or heavy rock/blues, or some pumping dance choons, so as it’s all of the rather ‘lively’ variety, I actually find it helps me concentrate (and also awake on long distances alone).
However, if I played some classical, jazz or folk music, it might have the opposite effect! Different strokes for different folks, I guess? :)
When I get this new stereo fitted, I predict I’ll probably have to put a bed in the car! :D
Marco.
That’s an interesting point, Gordon. Del and I do talk when we’re in the car and I’m driving, but not a lot, as I too find it distracting. *However*, not so with the RIGHT music…
When I’m in the car I tend to play what I call ‘driving music’, which is usually some throbbing metal or heavy rock/blues, or some pumping dance choons, so as it’s all of the rather ‘lively’ variety, I actually find it helps me concentrate (and also awake on long distances alone).
However, if I played some classical, jazz or folk music, it might have the opposite effect! Different strokes for different folks, I guess? :)
When I get this new stereo fitted, I predict I’ll probably have to put a bed in the car! :D
Marco.
Apparently dance music makes people drive faster and playing rock music in the car tends to lead to aggressive driving, of course that could all be utter bollocks... :D
Nah, I’m like that all the time, regardless! :D
Only kidding… Seriously, apart from enjoying it, I don’t find that listening to the right music distracts me at all. However, trying to follow the fooking sat/nav is another matter entirely!
Marco.
Pal of mine was nicked for speeding. Playing loud rock music at the time so he blamed it on that. Stopped playing loud rock music whilst driving and instead switched to listening to tapes of particle physics lectures. (He's a bit of a boffin).Turned out worse since he was having to concentrate so hard to follow what was being talked about he ended up nearly rear-ending the cars in front. Now he listens to talking books, but only ones he's heard before so he doesn't have to listen too closely.
Pal of mine was nicked for speeding. Playing loud rock music at the time so he blamed it on that. Stopped playing loud rock music whilst driving and instead switched to listening to tapes of particle physics lectures. (He's a bit of a boffin).Turned out worse since he was having to concentrate so hard to follow what was being talked about he ended up nearly rear-ending the cars in front. Now he listens to talking books, but only ones he's heard before so he doesn't have to listen too closely.
I find it easier to concentrate on my driving when listening to talk radio (usually 5 Live) than I do listening to music, go figure... :scratch:
Pal of mine was nicked for speeding. Playing loud rock music at the time so he blamed it on that. Stopped playing loud rock music whilst driving and instead switched to listening to tapes of particle physics lectures.
Now that would send me to sleep!! :zzz: I think I’d rather listen to the sound of my own farts... Is he a bit of a laff, then, this mate of yours? ;)
Btw, regarding meeting up, are you planning to go to Nebo 5? I’ll be taking my Techy with me, so we could hook up then instead if you want?
Marco.
He is a good laugh but he is a bit brainy. He's got more degrees than I've got O levels. Listens to radio 4 a lot....
Yes I'd like to get to NEBO but with it being middle of January it is a bit dependant on the weather. Looks like we will have another mild winter at the moment but I'm not counting my chickens. Doesn't matter for the folk who live 500 yards away but if you've the best part of 300 miles to travel it's a different story at that time of year.
Yeah, defo weather dependent for that trip!
We can discuss the details nearer the time, but what I’d suggest is you get the train to Chester, and I’ll collect you and we can make our way from there. I think that’ll be easier and more direct than what we did the last time :)
Marco.
okay we will play it by ear.
Well, tomorrow’s the day the new sound system is going to be fitted… It’ll take a few days to do, with the sound-proofing and stuff, but I can’t wait! :yay:
Piccies of the install (and some gratuitous car shots) to come… :eyebrows:
Marco.
A few days!!! I got a full central heating system fitted in less than a day:lol:
oh well will wait with baited breasts for the piccies :eyebrows:
A few days!!! I got a full central heating system fitted in less than a day:lol:
oh well will wait with baited breasts for the piccies :eyebrows:
As they say, good things come to those who wait… ;)
Marco.
Car will be ready on Friday, in time for NEBO 5. Kev’s taking a ‘picture diary’ of the install, too, for me to post here! :)
Marco.
A £3K car stereo 'only' lasting seven years? You'd kick off something big time if it was your domestic stuff I reckon... :scratch:
Hey ho, Dave. I don’t know how the previous owner of the car treated the system before me… Maybe he liked his death metal too much!! :D
Marco.
you got the ghettoblaster back mate?
Lol - no, it’ll be sometime on Friday, as I’m also having the engine tuned in what one could call an ‘interesting way’… ;)
Marco.
does it rev to da musac?:lol:
Audio Advent
08-01-2015, 12:11
Give me a couple of knobs and I'll be happy!
does it rev to da musac?:lol:
Now THERE’S an idea!! :idea:
Marco.
Audio Advent
08-01-2015, 18:06
Now THERE’S an idea!! :idea:
Marco.
That's what "toe-tapping music" means - tapping the accelerator (or brake for that matter).
Audio Advent
08-01-2015, 18:11
Anyone ever tried a 12V capable class-D amp in a car? Maybe with full-range drivers attached! Imagine the audiophile kudos when someone sees Jordan JX-92s around the car with a Temple Audio monoblock powering each one and a transformer-based passive up front (some balance and fade control added of course). Perhaps a bit more bass is needed, although folded horns might fit in the door panels somehow. Just plug in your Astell and Kern mobile player up front.
I like your style, Sam! :respect:
Marco.
costerdock
08-01-2015, 19:21
I replaced the factory mercedes head unit in my C240 around 2008 time frame - I went with the Pioneer Avic - which provides Nav, voice control and iPod playback - it is still working nicely today - I just need to replace my Bose rear spearkers as they are buzzing.
I'm not sure if you retained your steering wheel controls - but it is possible with the PAC SWE components.
Here is a youtube I put together a while back with the setup in my car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nErjRHXgDbQ
Ali Tait
08-01-2015, 21:02
Anyone ever tried a 12V capable class-D amp in a car? Maybe with full-range drivers attached! Imagine the audiophile kudos when someone sees Jordan JX-92s around the car with a Temple Audio monoblock powering each one and a transformer-based passive up front (some balance and fade control added of course). Perhaps a bit more bass is needed, although folded horns might fit in the door panels somehow. Just plug in your Astell and Kern mobile player up front.
I reckon that would sound great.
Ali Tait
08-01-2015, 21:07
Marco, yer going about this the wrong way..
This is what you need!
http://milbert.com/bam235ab
:D
Don’t - my thermionic illness is bad enough as it is!! :eyebrows:
Marco.
I replaced the factory mercedes head unit in my C240 around 2008 time frame - I went with the Pioneer Avic - which provides Nav, voice control and iPod playback - it is still working nicely today - I just need to replace my Bose rear spearkers as they are buzzing.
I'm not sure if you retained your steering wheel controls - but it is possible with the PAC SWE components.
Here is a youtube I put together a while back with the setup in my car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nErjRHXgDbQ
Nice one, Chris. Looking forward to using one of those touch-screen jobbies myself. Voice-activated is a hoot, too. Some day soon I think we’ll be able to tell the car to drive itself to our destination!
Marco.
walpurgis
08-01-2015, 21:18
Marco, yer going about this the wrong way..
This is what you need!
http://milbert.com/bam235ab
:D
I had a big valve radio in my car years ago. It came from a fifties Cadillac.
costerdock
08-01-2015, 21:28
Thanks - definitely ask your installer about the steering wheel controls - those are great to retain - I'm pretty sure our cars are similar. The PAC Audio modules can understand the various controls - volume up/down, mute, FF,FR,skip track, back track.
You are definitely in for a treat - mine was worked on as well for a few days.
20 amps is a hefty load on a battery.
Ali Tait
08-01-2015, 21:41
Many fit an uprated or a second alternator if required.
Thanks - definitely ask your installer about the steering wheel controls - those are great to retain - I'm pretty sure our cars are similar. The PAC Audio modules can understand the various controls - volume up/down, mute, FF,FR,skip track, back track.
Yep, that’s already been confirmed, so the steering wheel controls have retained their functionality. Our cars will certainly be similar. Mine just has a bigger engine, and I think it's Avantgarde SE status just means it’s a bit posher inside. Similar vintage, though… I love mine - puts a smile on my face every time I get behind the wheel! :)
Marco.
Canetoad
08-01-2015, 22:58
Don't forget the LED light strips under the sills so it looks "propa" at night. :lol:
They’re sorted already, dude. I’m going for ‘green neon’!
:hotrod: :yesbruv:
Marco.
Canetoad
09-01-2015, 04:19
:fingers:
Beobloke
09-01-2015, 13:00
Marco, yer going about this the wrong way..
This is what you need!
http://milbert.com/bam235ab
:D
Absolutely! And with one of these in the dashboard:
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa428/Beobloke/PanasonicCQ-TX5500_zps35975b3f.jpg (http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/Beobloke/media/PanasonicCQ-TX5500_zps35975b3f.jpg.html)
:D
Now THAT is quality!! :respect:
Marco.
PaulStewart
09-01-2015, 14:02
absolutely! And with one of these in the dashboard:
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa428/beobloke/panasoniccq-tx5500_zps35975b3f.jpg (http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/beobloke/media/panasoniccq-tx5500_zps35975b3f.jpg.html)
:d
want it now!!!!!!
Ali Tait
09-01-2015, 14:08
Me too!
Off to pick up the car now, armed with a load of CDs to test the system!! :yay: :gig:
Marco.
:dance: ...................................
................ https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/31/2d/87/312d877749e74bd3e256e131328d6c93.jpg
http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4176317/an_angry_man_reaching_towards_the_camera_aggressiv ely_1832094.jpg ......
.......I said GREEN thats not green :doh:
Come on, how does it sound Marco:eek:
Lol - ok, I’ll go with that instead and spend the change on wine, women and song! :D
Marco.
Or you could just waste it lol
Ninanina
09-01-2015, 23:25
If I put a stereo system in my old Merc I would at least double her value... :D:D
Bless her she is nearly 25 years old :)
Come on, how does it sound Marco:eek:
Like a Binatone 8 track :eyebrows:
Come on, how does it sound Marco:eek:
Bloody awesome, now I’ve fiddled with an optimised all the settings! :eek: :eek: :hairmetal: :hairmetal: :guitar: :guitar: :rock: :rock:
The touch control panel is fab, too! Just like using a smart phone.
I’ll organise some pics later in the week. Gotta crash now, chaps, as I’m up at 6pm tomorrow to go to NEBO 5 (need to pick Macca up in Stoke first, then onwards)!
:goodnight:
Marco.
walpurgis
09-01-2015, 23:34
Bless her she is nearly 25 years old :)
Just like my girlfriend! :)
Ninanina
09-01-2015, 23:36
Just like my girlfriend! :)
Come on Geoff don't kid yourself ... :D:D
OR do you have hidden talents ??
He meant that was the last time he had a shag! :lol:
;)
Right, bed! :wave:
Marco.
walpurgis
09-01-2015, 23:40
OR do you have hidden talents ??
They are so hidden, even I can't find them. :lol:
Bloody awesome, now I’ve fiddled with an optimised all the settings! :eek: :eek: :hairmetal: :hairmetal: :guitar: :guitar: :rock: :rock:
The touch control panel is fab, too! Just like using a smart phone.
I’ll organise some pics later in the week. Gotta crash now, chaps, as I’m up at 6pm tomorrow to go to NEBO 5 (need to pick Macca up in Stoke first, then onwards)!
:goodnight:
Marco.
Cool...enjoy NEBO and sure Macca will be wowed by the sound in the motor.....he might just want to stay in there while you go for a gander :eyebrows:
walpurgis
09-01-2015, 23:43
He meant that was the last time he had a shag! :lol: Marco.
At least it wasn't in the Welsh hills with 'Fluffy Bessie' or any others of her flock! :D
Ninanina
09-01-2015, 23:50
They are so hidden, even I can't find them. :lol:
You crack me up... :D:D
At least it wasn't in the Welsh hills with 'Fluffy Bessie' or any others of her flock! :D
:lies:
.......her name is Sarah;)
walpurgis
10-01-2015, 00:00
:lies:
.......her name is Sarah;)
It may well be, but she wasn't my date. I only like the pretty ones. :)
It may well be, but she wasn't my date. I only like the pretty ones. :)
:lol:
Guys, I’ll be posting some piccies of the system install soon! :)
The car’s away again today getting the new remap done (as I’ve done away now with the tuning box I was using), simply because Kevin will do a better job, as that really is his specialist field. I had expected to have that completed in time for collecting the car last week, but the stereo system, soundproofing, etc, took longer to complete than anticipated.
I’ll be collecting the car tomorrow. In the meantime, whilst searching YouTube for some videos on engine remapping, I discovered this one which shows a guy comparing two similar cars, one a BMW 330d, and the other a Mercedes C270 CDI, which apart from mine (a C320 CDI) having a bigger, six cylinder engine, and being a newer, 56 plate, the interior is IDENTICAL to that of my own car.
Anyway, watch this and see what you think. I totally agree with the chap’s comments about how rapid it is (mine, having a bigger engine, is substantially faster again), and the ride factor! Oh, and one thing: my car (although also being a diesel), doesn't sound like a fooking tractor when you start it, like the car does in the video (often known as ‘diesel clatter’)… :nono:
I guess the six-cylinder engine used in mine largely sorts that out, as on start up, it sounds pretty much like a car with a petrol engine. Anyway, here’s the video (observe the written comments On YouTube underneath about the C320 CDI):
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Marco.
Ammonite Audio
13-01-2015, 09:25
I had my old BMW 320d re-mapped by a highly recommended specialist and it went like a rocket, but with improved fuel consumption. But, the engine note became unacceptably harsh and the re-mapped torque output was perilously close to the gearbox limit. So, I had the original map re-instated which, in hindsight, was probably the best thing to do. Your Merc gearbox is probably stronger than the shitty GM built 5 speeder that was in my old BMW, but things like torque converter lock-up clutches are potential weak points and quite expensive to replace.
Of course, you don't have to use Warp 10 all the time, and I'm sure your chap knows his stuff, but do check the numbers. Also consider having the gearbox serviced to make sure the fluid is fresh and the right spec, and that the various internal pressures are correct.
The Black Adder
13-01-2015, 09:37
I had my Mini John Cooper Works re-mapped... It went freaking mental...lol and it was already a fully fledged nut-job anyway. I found it was simply too quick even though I had the JCW brakes updated too. The power to weight ratio was blinding. I went through tyres like butter, just had too much torque.
I got bored of overtaking sports cars though.... lol
Hi Hugo,
I had my old BMW 320d re-mapped by a highly recommended specialist and it went like a rocket, but with improved fuel consumption. But, the engine note became unacceptably harsh and the re-mapped torque output was perilously close to the gearbox limit. So, I had the original map re-instated which, in hindsight, was probably the best thing to do. Your Merc gearbox is probably stronger than the shitty GM built 5 speeder that was in my old BMW, but things like torque converter lock-up clutches are potential weak points and quite expensive to replace.
Of course, you don't have to use Warp 10 all the time, and I'm sure your chap knows his stuff, but do check the numbers.
Absolutely - and those are indeed very valid points. Kevin and I were actually discussing this last night, and about the best way of making the car as much of an ‘animal’ as possible (lol), but within its safety and design limits.
We’d even discussed (or rather I’d asked him) about removing the limiters on the gearbox, which was met by him with a resounding ‘NO’, unless I planned on simply using the car for going round a race track! :eyebrows:
One thing I will be doing later in the year is fitting a stainless steel sports exhaust system (another thing Kev specialises in), with AMG quad tailpipes. That should give the engine a rather nice tone, together with some additional ‘oomph’, as well as look rather sexy!
This is what I had in mind, minus the ’turbo whistling’. I think the noise produced there isn't too ‘boy racer’ sounding - just a nice purposeful ’thrruumm’……
oWBJQ8Opx3Q
Also consider having the gearbox serviced to make sure the fluid is fresh and the right spec, and that the various internal pressures are correct.
Yup, that’s getting done too, along with the remap :)
Marco.
I had my Mini John Cooper Works re-mapped... It went freaking mental...lol and it was already a fully fledged nut-job anyway. I found it was simply too quick even though I had the JCW brakes updated too. The power to weight ratio was blinding. I went through tyres like butter, just had too much torque.
I got bored of overtaking sports cars though.... lol
Lol - the only thing about ‘pocket rockets’ like that is stopping them! Mind you, I suppose that happens when you hit something :D
Marco.
The Black Adder
13-01-2015, 11:20
lol... yep. so I needed grip but at £250 per tyre it was just too crazy.
That’s how much I pay for the Pirellis on the Merc! Hence why I’ve taken out a tyre warranty….
Marco.
Beobloke
13-01-2015, 12:49
I guess the six-cylinder engine used in mine largely sorts that out, as on start up, it sounds pretty much like a car with a petrol engine. .
I bet it doesn't. Mainly because a decent petrol V6, when started, should make barely any noise at all! ;)
Lol - I’m not saying that it’s ‘silent’, but it most certainly doesn’t sound like the car featured in the earlier YouTube video. There is a gentle noise on start-up, which I can’t successfully describe in words, but it’s totally devoid of that horrible ‘taxi-like clatter’, synonymous with many diesel engines, especially older ones.
Furthermore, when the car is running, all one hears is a gentle ’swish’. Numerous petrol car-owning drivers, who’ve been passengers in the car, have commented on how it doesn’t sound anything like a typical diesel engine. I’m sure that most modern diesel cars are the same :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
13-01-2015, 15:20
are they runflats, marco?
One thing I will be doing later in the year is fitting a stainless steel sports exhaust system (another thing Kev specialises in), with AMG quad tailpipes. That should give the engine a rather nice tone, together with some additional ‘oomph’, as well as look rather sexy!
Yup, that’s getting done too, along with the remap :)
Marco.
Personally I would wait until the exhaust is fitted before I got the car remapped.
It's a bit like setting up your TT geometry, and then changing the cartridge without making any further adjustments.
are they runflats, marco?
Nope, hate runflats!
Marco.
Hi Kevin,
Personally I would wait until the exhaust is fitted before I got the car remapped.
It's a bit like setting up your TT geometry, and then changing the cartridge without making any further adjustments.
You’re probably right, but I’ve spent enough money on the car for the moment, so the new exhaust system can wait. Besides, I’ve discussed the matter with Kevin and he assures me that there will be no problem optimising the whole ‘system’ later, even if I go for the remap now :)
Marco.
Picking up the car this morning - I’m even more looking forward to assessing the results of the remap than I was about first assessing the sound of the stereo! :eyebrows:
I guess that, these days, that’s more where my head’s at… Yes, I like hi-fi (and I’ll always love music), but I love enjoyable driving in a nice car even more!! :exactly:
I’m even thinking about cancelling my monthly subscription to HFN, and getting ‘Octane’ instead…. Nurse! :eek:
Marco.
i say old chap.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/15/f8421512d6c6f6d041fb5b77853f1122.jpg
i kinda was expecting a bit more bang for my buck[emoji12]
Lol - I bet one of those would be a riot! :D
Got my car back, and I’m absolutely delighted with it! What a difference a proper remap makes, rather than using a tuning box, carried out by someone who understands what he’s doing and can optimise all the curves properly, thus making the engine performance very linear... :eek:
The car is now smoother, quieter (soon to be more economical) and considerably faster!! I’d thoroughly recommend a specialised remap like this for anyone wanting to release the latent performance in their car, and I’d also recommend Kevin’s expert services.
Read about his remaps here: http://bmwizard.co.uk/services/remapping-and-chip-tuning/
Next thing I’m going to try is a Terraclean. It’s been on my radar for a while now, since Ali Tait mentioned it to me last year, and after chatting today with Kev, he’s going to be an appointed dealer from next week, so I’m taking the car in to have it done.
Interesting video on it:
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I shall report the results in due course! :cool:
Marco.
Ok, better late than never, some piccies… First of me ‘ol jalopy ‘as is’:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/BomYd7.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/kRk0JP.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/IMUs0v.jpg
Now the car system - first up, the JBL sub:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/ILoa7u.jpg
JBL amp (300W in bridged mode):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/kfWLRE.jpg
One of the rear JBL speakers:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/xDZVCQ.jpg
Kenwood touch-control head unit (with built-in sat/nav):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/8pxHqs.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/2i3WaR.jpg
One of the front JBL speakers:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/zAnETM.jpg
I’ll see if I can find the pics Kevin sent me of the ‘before’ process! Needless to say that the new car system sounds fab, especially now that I’ve set it up the way I like it. I could honestly sit for hours listening to music in there! :)
Marco.
Very nice, although it kinda nullifies the boot;) Suppose you have the rest of the jallopy for storage. Sure looks comfy
Lol - nah, I zoomed in on the sub, so the pic doesn’t show all the boot space in front of and to the side of it! ;) Also, it’s only a set of speaker cables connecting the sub, so those are easily disconnected, and then the sub just lifts out (when necessary).
It is a comfy car - awesome on long journeys….
Marco.
costerdock
26-01-2015, 22:37
Looks great - I think we have the same color interior - Ash - I love the seat warmers!
Cheers, Chris!
Seat warmers, though? Ain’t got none (although the car does have electric heated seats)….
Marco.
Eagle owl
28-01-2015, 06:13
Seat warmers will give you haemorrhoids. :lol:
Noo, noo - my padded panties provide all the necessary cushioning I need! :D :eyebrows:
Marco.
The sub is definitely too small... :eyebrows:
Lol… It’s a 12-incher: more than ample ‘girth’ for my needs! :eyebrows:
Marco.
I thought you would have had it wired up with decent cable though, like the MC5000 :lol:
Ha - I’d actually thought about that! However, it was too late by the time I’d thought about it, as the cables had already been routed underneath everything.
The JBL interconnect cables are actually pretty good (typical ‘studio quality’ LCOFC stuff), so not crap, and the speaker cable used is rather good, ‘Connection', by Audison S 210 - 10 Gauge speaker cable (£11.50 per metre):
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/661/nlx4tc.jpg
…so not too shabby at all. It’s actually pretty thick stuff. Anyway, it all sounds superb! :cool:
Marco.
As promised, some of the ‘before’ pics, which Kevin sent me on his phone, so they’re a bit of a jumble (and a few are upside down), but you can get the gist of most of them:
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You can see the old door speakers that were in place (from the previous Harman Kardon system), and the back of one of the new JBL front speakers, together with various other things, including the Dynamat sound insulation and the thickness of the speaker cable used (especially in the last image, as it’s being connected to the crossovers)! :eek:
Marco.
The car’s going in to have the Terraclean engine de-carboning process carried out today, so I shall report back with the results (in a separate thread in Abstract Chat), in case anyone else is also considering trying it :cool:
In the meantime, here’s an interesting video on the process:
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Marco.
costerdock
29-01-2015, 21:25
Wow what a job. Did you have a CD changer and did you get that replaced with a Kenwood version?
I have a funny story - when I had my MB stereo removed - I had the factory CD changer in the glove box - I wanted to retain that functionality - so I bought the Pioneer head unit - it is just released - pretty much a Beta product at the time - and I bought the Pioneer CD Changer - they did a beautiful job of fitting the CD player in the glove box - took a few extra hours to get it right - then in the end - they could not get it to work! Making a long story short - the new Pioneer head unit that I bought - no longer supports a CD Changer! How stupid can Pioneer be? Anyhow - they gave me a refund on the CD changer - and it still sits in my glove box today. Maybe someday - I'll get a newer head unit that supports it - for the most part I no longer use it.
Mark Grant
30-01-2015, 11:08
Ok, better late than never, some piccies… First of me ‘ol jalopy ‘as is’:
JBL amp (300W in bridged mode):
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Marco.
Da Gangsta :D :)
Looking at the picture of the subwoofer speaker connections they would be better if they where insulated, the type with plastic covers or heat shrink.
If someone puts anything conductive beside the subwoofer such as a case or bag with metal handles etc the subwoofer terminals could be accidentally shorted out. (probably when going round tight corners)
The amplifier probably has a short protection circuit but never good to short out anything powerful.
Just a suggestion as to how I would have done it :)
Hi Mark,
De gangsta with de ganja, man! :peace:
Good suggestion - I see exactly where you’re coming from, so will look into that. TBH, the boot is rarely used to put things in, hence why it's so clean. The back seat tends to fulfil that role, for small bits and pieces, and if anything major needs transporting (or shopping, etc), we use Del’s car :)
Marco.
Yikes much of that looks like spaghetti junction:eek:, all credit to the electrician who put it all back together.
Hope your enjoying your tunes on the move Marco.
ATB
Jim
Hi Chris,
Wow what a job. Did you have a CD changer and did you get that replaced with a Kenwood version?
I have a funny story - when I had my MB stereo removed - I had the factory CD changer in the glove box - I wanted to retain that functionality - so I bought the Pioneer head unit - it is just released - pretty much a Beta product at the time - and I bought the Pioneer CD Changer - they did a beautiful job of fitting the CD player in the glove box - took a few extra hours to get it right - then in the end - they could not get it to work! Making a long story short - the new Pioneer head unit that I bought - no longer supports a CD Changer! How stupid can Pioneer be? Anyhow - they gave me a refund on the CD changer - and it still sits in my glove box today. Maybe someday - I'll get a newer head unit that supports it - for the most part I no longer use it.
Interesting about the CD changer! :)
I also had one (still have it) left over from the old system. However, I can play CDs with the new head unit, so the changer is no longer required. What I intend to do though is put a cassette player in the glove box, as despite having access in the car now to the latest music-playing technology, I still like my retro gear! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Hi Jim,
Yikes much of that looks like spaghetti junction:eek:, all credit to the electrician who put it all back together.
Hope your enjoying your tunes on the move Marco.
Cheers, mate - sure am! I was round at a mate’s house last night, and when we went out for a drive, we were streaming music from his phone through the Bluetooth in the car system, and it sounded superb. I just need to get myself a decent phone now! :)
Marco.
P.S As a point of note, the Terraclean engine de-carbonising treatment was very successful. More on that later on a separate thread!
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