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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:29
A bit of a rebuild, classic hi-fi components - discuss.

:)

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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:32
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:34
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:35
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:36
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:36
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25-03-2008, 17:36
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:36
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:37
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:38
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:38
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:38
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:38
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25-03-2008, 17:38
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:39
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25-03-2008, 17:39
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:39
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:40
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:40
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:41
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:41
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:42
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:43
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:43
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:44
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:45
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:45
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:45
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:46
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:46
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:47
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:47
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:48
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:48
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:51
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:51
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:51
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:52
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:52
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:53
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:53
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Filterlab
25-03-2008, 17:53
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Mike Reed
25-03-2008, 21:55
've you been raiding a museum, Rob? Amazing pictures, and I've not heard of one or two of those arms. (Though I've owned a Tiktok)

Keep up the good work!

Filterlab
25-03-2008, 22:55
've you been raiding a museum, Rob? Amazing pictures, and I've not heard of one or two of those arms. (Though I've owned a Tiktok)

Keep up the good work!

I wish. :)

These images were on here previously and I backed them up so I could repost them should they become **ahem** removed. Some nice gear here, although I am obviously too young to remember any of it. :ner:

Marco
25-03-2008, 23:06
Rob,

Nice work :)

We'll get torn into this place tomorrow. That should 'amuse' a certain Yorkshireman ;)

Marco.

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:46
Sparta Broadcast Turntable

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Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:46
Panta RPH-340:

Deck needs a clean, but nice arm! Detachable headshells rule ;)

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/Panta%20RPH340-1.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:47
Perpetuum Ebner PE-34

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/PE34.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:54
Acoustical 800

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/Acoustical%20800-2.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:55
Webster Test Room, circa 1950:

I wonder how much those buggers weigh!

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/webster.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:56
Weathers Turntable with B&O tonearm

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/Weathers.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 08:56
Extreme futurism - 'La Luce 120'

Would you let the wife near it? ;)

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/LaLuce120.jpg

Filterlab
28-03-2008, 09:11
EMT R35

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20R35.jpg

EMT 927 - the epitome of cool. I want one NOW! :)

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20927F-Playing-1.jpg

EMT 930 with Ortofon RMA-229 arm

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20930st-old.jpg

EMT 930 with EMT arm

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20930st-still2.jpg

EMT 940

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20940-1.jpg

EMT 928 with EMT 929 tonearm & Shure SC35C cartridge (broadcast quality sound at a bargain price)

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20928%20EMT%20929-SME.jpg

EMT 928 with Audio Technica 1005 tonearm & Shure SC35C cartridge

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20928%20EMT%20929-SME.jpg

EMT 947 (backlit)

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20948-broadcast%20light.jpg

EMT 938 with original cabinet

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/EMT%20938-mine.jpg

jimdgoulding
26-04-2008, 14:20
Well, let's see . . I owned an FR cartridge that I can't remember the designation of except that it was a Mark III (luscious midrange, weighed a ton) and I still own a first generation Koetsu Black. Also, I own what may have been the first battery powered MC step up transformer, a Marcof PPA. Regrettably, it doesn't have enough gain for my present system.

Marco
26-04-2008, 21:59
Hey Jim, that's the transformer I designed, named after me - I wish ;)

The first generation KBs were the best, when Sugano San was alive and in charge. Now his son makes them and they've lost their magic, I feel.

Do you still use your KB and if so on which deck?

Marco.

Mike Reed
27-04-2008, 14:52
Received wisdom has it that the more recent Koetsu Black 'Goldline' is better than the original.

I hope so, because I installed one only a few days ago!

I have read that the originals were made , not by Koetsu, but by one of the other cartridge manufacturers, for Koetsu.

The recent Goldline. I understand, IS made by Koetsu.

Very interesting going from Lyra Helikon to Koetsu Black. Rather surprised there wasn't MORE of a difference, t.b.h.

jimdgoulding
28-04-2008, 03:04
Tell us where you got that information. Google doesn't support that as far as I've looked. My understanding was and is that the Koetsu was hand built by Sugano Yoshiaki originally. Later models probably do sound better. It makes sense that they would, I suppose. If there is truth to what you say, Supex would have most likely been the company.

Marco- I use it on a Micro Seiki BL91 belt drive with a Premier tonearm. The old statesman has a massive Rosewood veneered deck with a 2.5lb brass mounting plate. I reckon it's a museum piece. Still runs very quietly.

Marco
28-04-2008, 08:20
Hi Mike,


Received wisdom has it that the more recent Koetsu Black 'Goldline' is better than the original.


Not to my ears, I'm afraid, but like anything else it could be a system compatibility issue. I used mine on an LP12/Hadcock GH242 Integra with a Graham Slee Reflex Gold/Elevator EXP phono stage combination. Perhaps the synergy was wrong? All I know is that the Denon DL-103 Pro on my Technics T/T completely outperforms the Linn/Koetsu/GS combo.

The problem I had was that the Koetsu sounded a bit warm and bloated - it lacked 'sparkle' no matter how I tried to counteract this effect. It's the complete opposite to the dynamic, 'bouncy' and detailed sound I get now :)


I have read that the originals were made , not by Koetsu, but by one of the other cartridge manufacturers, for Koetsu.


Like Jim says that's in direct contradiction to my information - I was under the distinct impression that Sugano San made all the original Koetsus but I could be wrong as I'm not 100% sure. Maybe the Black was different. What I was getting at was that I used the original Black K in the 80s and it had a different sound to the current Goldline - one that had much more of the traditional 'magical' musical qualities associated with Koetsus.


The recent Goldline. I understand, IS made by Koetsu.


I'm not sure about that. It might be a partnership between Koetsu and another bigger Japanese cartridge manufacturer to help keep the costs down. I'm sure I read this somewhere.


Very interesting going from Lyra Helikon to Koetsu Black. Rather surprised there wasn't MORE of a difference, t.b.h.


I can imagine it would be interesting. Whilst undoubtedly great cartridges in a technical sense, Lyras just don't do it for me. They're too clinical sounding for my taste and possess a 'brightly lit' quality that's unnatural sounding to my ears, certainly compared to my DL-103 Pro, which IMO when properly partnered and set-up is one of the most realistic sounding and musical cartridges one can buy. The Koetsu should be more rounded sounding and less 'in-your-face' than the Lyra, but you probably won't get the same clarity through the top and midrange.

What set-up are you using it with, Mike?

Marco.

P.S Jim thanks for that. I love your T/T!

The Grand Wazoo
14-05-2008, 21:07
Like Jim says that's in direct contradiction to my information - I was under the distinct impression that Sugano San made all the original Koetsus but I could be wrong as I'm not 100% sure. Maybe the Black was different. What I was getting at was that I used the original Black K in the 80s and it had a different sound to the current Goldline - one that had much more of the traditional 'magical' musical qualities associated with Koetsus.

Having owned 3 Koetsu Blacks, can I continue this, long after you've all forgotten about it?
My first one was 'thrown in' when I bought my arm. This was the original Black. (See below for more about the arm).

Next up, I got a Black K, the model that replaced the original. This did not sound as good as the old one.

I had my first one retipped by Van den Hul - the glue failed within a couple of weeks. I sent it back & it was redone. This sounded good but different - some of the magic had gone and it was super critical of VTA.

I got my current one about 4 years ago, though the gear was in storage for most of the time since then. This one sounds a good bit more like the original and a lot better than the K.

My understanding is that the Black was indeed OEM and has never been available in Japan. This may explain some of the contradictory experiences we have had between us - I would guess that maybe quality control on OEM kit is not as stringent, leading to variability. However, I've always been pretty convinced that all mine have been good 'uns.

Incidentally, the arm I mentioned was a Zeta - again, one of the originals - the first 20 made had gold coloured armtubes. It was in a classified ad & I paid £150 after a frantic drive from Cumbria down to Liverpool in the morning. I moved house to Scotland in the afternoon!!! After a rewire inside & out, I still use this arm 17 years later - never wanted anything more from an arm.

DSJR
15-05-2008, 12:57
I have what I believe to be an original KB and loved it last I played it. I tried it again recently and it's lost a channel. I hope the disconnection is near the rear pin rather than a break near the coil. It'd be sad to ditch it as it has a more "correct" balance than the Reds and Onyxes I once knew, which sounded like a blanket had been thrown over the quietest instruments and reverb...

Mike Reed
17-05-2008, 21:47
I have just gleaned from preceding posts that there are three Koetsu Blacks, not two as I'd thought. The Original, the K and the current Goldline. I've seen a picture of what I think was the original (Ebay recently), fifteen years old. Did that and the K look similar, because the Goldline is quite distinctive c/f the Ebay one?

I was recently tempted by a (purportedly) low-hours Red Sig. on Ebay, but after Absolute Sounds had faxed Koetsu for the serial number date, they told me that it was issued before '93! Have they been going THAT long? Surely any cart. that old would either be shot or in its second or third incarnation.

After the easy access to serial numbers of Naim stuff, I find trying to work out Koetsu history a bit laborious, but am willing to learn!

DSJR
17-05-2008, 22:27
The sigs go back more than twenty years as I recall. Jimmy Hughes had an Onyx which he got cheap with the diamond missing. He had it VDH'd and it sounded superb. After six months he sent it back to Japan to be turned into a signature and it was ruined...

My KB dates to the early eighties and I think the second one was the Black S, of which we sold a few over the Troika (we didn't follow the religion too well, even then)...

The Grand Wazoo
19-05-2008, 16:13
I have just gleaned from preceding posts that there are three Koetsu Blacks, not two as I'd thought. The Original, the K and the current Goldline. I've seen a picture of what I think was the original (Ebay recently), fifteen years old. Did that and the K look similar, because the Goldline is quite distinctive c/f the Ebay one?

I was recently tempted by a (purportedly) low-hours Red Sig. on Ebay, but after Absolute Sounds had faxed Koetsu for the serial number date, they told me that it was issued before '93! Have they been going THAT long? Surely any cart. that old would either be shot or in its second or third incarnation.

My original Black was 2nd hand when I got it in June 1990 - 17 yrs ago! I don't think the previous owner used it too much, but he'd owned it for quite some time before me. I got some reasonable hrs out of it before I replaced it with the Black K. Koetsus do seem to last a lot longer than many other MC's - as documented by others as well as me.

My Black K had a 'gold line' on a chamfer around the bottom edge and a gold coloured plate on the body bottom (from which the cantilever emerges), just the same as my newer one has. But the original one I had doesn't have either of these. The body top was marked Koetsu Black K. The one I'm using now is marked Koestsu Black on the top.

However, I don't recall my current one being marketed as a 'Goldline'. I thought that was the name they gave the Black K in the US market (but I'm very happy to be corrected in any of my assumptions). At the time I got it I'm sure it was just referred to as a Black.

This is confusing, so I'll summarise........

Cartridge No 1 - 2nd hand 1990 Suspect it was new in early 80's as DSJR above
Koetsu Black - No gold feature line, black bottom plate, top marked Koetsu Black

Cartridge No. 2 - 2nd hand 1996
Koetsu Black K - Gold feature line, gold bottom plate, top marked Koetsu Black K

Catridge No. 3 - New 2004
Koetsu Black - Gold feature line, gold bottom plate, don't know what it's marked with (and I'm not going to look & lose its alignment for the sake of this debate!!)

Hope this helps (can't help thinking it'll make things worse though!)

DSJR
19-05-2008, 16:38
HiFi Choice, Issue 48, 1987

Koetsu Black K - Summary - Lab - Flat and smooth downtilted response 2db across the band (+/- 1db with occasional glitches). Outstanding separation over 45db 250 - 5K Hz.

Sound - Thought to be a considerable improvement on earlier version. Koetsu character but "lighter" and "faster". Panel less convinced, claiming bass muddling and excess, despite impressive scale and dynamics, together with a little "tizz" up top. Romantic and spacious presentation.


I'm wondering if the above was more a problem with the turntable and arm and I suspect this cartridge would perform better today!

I had no bass problem that I can remember with the few I sold with LP12's/Ittoks (and I think an Ekos but it's a long time ago). My own Black was very even tempered, with a brighter "fresher" balance than the original Red and Onyx I compared it with.

trond kjetil
15-06-2008, 12:25
I am awaiting this little fellow:

http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/ea/12/a550_3.JPG

Thorens PR24 tube amp from the beginning of the sixties. EL84 tubes in the end.

It is on it's way from France to Norway these days :D

Filterlab
17-06-2008, 08:02
Love the French tags, very exclusivé!

Rare Bird
04-10-2009, 11:15
My QUAD 50E, One restored one not yet

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/50E1.jpg

The 50E has been produced from 1966 to 1983. The quantity that was sold counts up to 12.000. Although it shares the looks of a 303 it is a different amplifier.

The 303 was built from 1967 to 1985, numbers produced: 94.000. I own a early and a late version of the 50E.

The 50E has a regulated power supply for the driver stages and a well filtered supply for the output stages. A choke is very good in deleting HF rubbish. It is a technique from the tube era. The 50E will give 50W into almost any load, but not at the same time! In fact the power bandwidth concerning loads is relative small, it uses an output transformer instead of an output capacitor like the 303.

It is idiot proof though, it is funny, for professionals you design an idiot proof amplifier, for normal people.........well. There is an optional 600 ohm balanced input transformer. There also is an input potentiometer to cope with large voltage, 1966, input signals.

The output of a 50E consists of eight (4 x 17V and 4 x 8.5V)independend transformer outputs, you can combine these outputs in any way, as long as you keep Ohm's law in mind. Most people will use the 50E with the 17V output configuration. This means in fact six 17V windings in parallel. The 50D has a different output combination, it has only the four 25,5V windings (17V and 8,5v in series)! So compared to a 50E you will miss the important 17V (6 Ohm) option, you can rewire the 50D to this specification. In the 50D there is no option for placing an input transformer and the netsupply voltage must start at a minimum of 200V AC. Also the netconnector is an odd Cannon connector. The output connector is a 11 pin version of the 19 pin 50E connector.

Sections taken from a Quad blog save me babbling on.

Marco
04-10-2009, 14:30
Nice one, Andre. So what's your full system these days? :)

Marco.

Barry
04-10-2009, 18:52
Good work Andre!

What form did the restoration work take? I have three Quad 50E s in standby should the 405 go down. The 50E amps replace a pair of Quad II s I had (and used with a Quad 44, to answer a thread about mixing solid state gear with valve gear) for the same purpose.

Regards

Rare Bird
04-10-2009, 23:26
Nice one, Andre. So what's your full system these days? :)

Marco.

Hi
I change it like underpants :)

Micromega Stage 6 CDP
Audio Synthesis Passion Passive Pre
Albarry M408 power amps.

Sold my speakers but using some Mission floor standers i bought for the Telly for time being.

The Albarry's are sold, i'm going back to my old Quad sysyem when i get it completed..Bought a pair of Ferrograph 'S1' loudspeakers which i'm gonna pick up when i get back from abroad..

Marco
04-10-2009, 23:36
I like it - and your way of thinking in terms of upgrades :respect:

The Ferrographs should certainly be better than the Missions.

Where's yer T/T, though, to play all those prog rock albums on vinyl? :gig:

Marco.

Rare Bird
04-10-2009, 23:44
Good work Andre!

What form did the restoration work take? I have three Quad 50E s in standby should the 405 go down. The 50E amps replace a pair of Quad II s I had (and used with a Quad 44, to answer a thread about mixing solid state gear with valve gear) for the same purpose.

Regards

Strip the case, Heatsinks etc & respray.

Internally...I replaced all the Electrolytic caps aswell as the PSU smoothing cap.Checked all resistors, Replaced all transistors & reset the amp

Heres another pair i've just started stripping Sorry about poor pic...

:mental:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Cases.jpg

Rare Bird
04-10-2009, 23:46
I like it - and your way of thinking in terms of upgrades :respect:

The Ferrographs should certainly be better than the Missions.

Where's yer T/T, though, to play all those prog rock albums on vinyl? :gig:

Marco.

I have a mint JA Michell 'Hydraulic Reference' with fluid arm boxed away, sold all my vinyl.

The Missions are tripe Marco but nice for the telly which i bought them for

Marco
05-10-2009, 10:28
You sold all your vinyl??? Jeez, that must've hurt!

What prompted that state of affairs, if you don't mind me asking?

Marco.

Rare Bird
05-10-2009, 10:36
You sold all your vinyl??? Jeez, that must've hurt!

What prompted that state of affairs, if you don't mind me asking?

Marco.


Was never happy with it Marco, no matter how much you throw at vinyl i felt it's always the vinyl disc itself thats at fault, buying re-issues don't sound the same as 1st issues also the digitally remastered discs even much so.

I did keep back the Michell deck & my ELP, King Crimson albums but just for keep sake nothing else..

My front end is the Micromega CD & FLAC files from outboard hard drive..I use HRT to bypass laptop sound card..Sounds great

http://www.highresolutiontechnologies.com/5496_hifi+_HRT_lowres.pdf

Marco
05-10-2009, 11:07
Hi Andre,


Was never happy with it Marco, no matter how much you throw at vinyl i felt it's always the vinyl disc itself thats at fault, buying re-issues don't sound the same as 1st issues also the digitally remastered discs even much so.


I know exactly what you mean - there are some truly awful pressings around on vinyl, past and present. What clinches it for me though, is when vinyl delivers (and by that I mean a superbly recorded 'clean' pressing of great music), it is truly awesome and for me surpasses anything digital is capable of. Fortunately, I've got a few such examples in my collection :)

The other thing I'd say, and you're probably going to disagree with me here, is that the type of classic belt-drive T/Ts you seem to favour (and their often 'loose', 'mushy' sonic signature), in my experience, merely highlight the same characteristics present in some of the vinyl pressings you're referring to.

With a top-notch direct-drive T/T, like for example an SP10 (or even an idler like a Garrard), the presentation is much tighter, 'cleaner' and ultimately more accurate, (in effect, they impose less of their 'character' on the music), thus enabling them to 'cut through the mire' of some of the rather dark sounding 60s/70s prog rock recordings you enjoy listening to.

That for me is mainly why you were never happy with vinyl - so don't give up on it completely, just get a better T/T! ;)

Having said that, the streaming solution you mention is no doubt excellent, as I know myself what is possible sonically in that area. Ultimately though, I just find it a rather soulless and un-tactile way of accessing one's music collection. I guess that I'd rather have shelves stacked full of albums I actually own that are worth something, as opposed to (financially) worthless, 'faceless' files stored on a hard-drive...

Horses for courses, as they say :cool:

Marco.

Rare Bird
05-10-2009, 11:29
I hear what your sayin..Actually i've had a couple of Garrard '401' & the Idler/Belt Thorens 'TD124' These do sound a lot better than Belt drives, one particular aspect about the Garrard is the bass compared to Belt drive base, like night & day. I'm sorry to say that i have given up on vinyl..I'm probably in a worse postion than most Vinyl fans in the respect that i listern to Early Prog around 1968-'73 nothing else the issues around this time were largely medicore. I do on the otherhand find the CD issues a hell of a lot better although as you mentioned loosing a touch of body within the sound..

You can't have it all ways i say. The bonus point for me is that even though the Micromega CDP is a tad bright & slightly over detailed, i find the Vintage QUAD gear kind irons this out taking the edge off the sound a bit which gives me a more vinyl like presentation..I'm happy with it regardless of how dated the units may look, infact i'd stick my neck out & say it's the happiest i've been for a long while.

btw: The Michell 'Hydraulic' was bought because of my fascination for both the late '60's/early '70's & the Clockwork Orange movie...Shame it aint a Transcriptors deck but it's as close as damn it.. ;)

henket
19-10-2009, 09:21
Hello,
I have a PE 34 HIFI too but My turntable is wrote "la guilde du son" and is with a préamp ! Do you know this model ? Who do I make the reglage ?
henket

P.S : I'm french, sorry for my english !
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs218.snc1/8525_1177251563414_1591866258_30442343_2090949_n.j pg

Perpetuum Ebner PE-34

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/PE34.jpg

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 10:02
I thought it was a Perpetuum-Ebner 'HSV40' but it's not....PE Tuner/amp anyway

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 10:39
Quad 303/A AM 8/15

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/QuadAM.jpg

DSJR
19-10-2009, 11:42
The Hydraulic Reference with Fluid arm should be worth a bit I reckon and IIRC, Michel did a platter upgrade which was well worthwhile. Fit an ADC XLM or anything good from this era and you could have magic.... My next cartridge project will be a V15III with Jico SAS stylus, as the VN35HE ou-performed a standard V15IV as I remember...

The thing with all these "iffy" but good decks from this period is not to over-load the arm or record with modern low-compliance cartridges, as the result is disaster usually IMO..

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 11:46
The michell 'Hyd' is totally mint in original box..It has the upgrade if your refering to the small glass platter, i had the extra long spindle/platter retainer made for it.Your looking at a grand ish..'Prisma' still my fav Michell deck.

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 11:47
The thing with all these "iffy" but good decks from this period is not to over-load the arm or record with modern low-compliance cartridges, as the result is disaster usually IMO..

I still have a new Goldring 920 cart somewhere

DSJR
19-10-2009, 11:48
If that was the top one, it should sound good in the Fluid arm, if a little bit "Audio Technica MC" for some posters...

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 12:06
Just for keep sake dave i'll never use the deck anymore, part of my collection really.

henket
19-10-2009, 12:44
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs277.snc1/10432_1182496214527_1591866258_30457133_6331529_s. jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs257.snc1/10432_1182496254528_1591866258_30457134_5588057_s. jpg

what is it please ?

Rare Bird
19-10-2009, 15:23
Should be on the rear what model it is!

henket
19-10-2009, 15:58
Is not wrote! It's with the PE 34 hifi turntables !

henket
30-10-2009, 19:24
I need some information about my PE34 HIFI package with the preamplifier and the speaker ! It was sold by "la guilde international du son" in France late 60's ! Anybody one know something about this ?

Rare Bird
30-10-2009, 19:31
So u keeps saying..If we aint got it you can't have it..

henket
30-10-2009, 19:43
I don't understand sorry. I'm french and novice

Themis
30-10-2009, 19:58
Henket, have you contacted Thomas ? As he lives in Aix-la-Chapelle, he must speak fluently French. And he says he's an expert in these turntables.


Bonsoir henket,

Perpetuum ebner is a german manufacturer which did in the early 70's.
Your record player is a PE 34 the second biggest of their range. Can also be found as Telefunken 210 Hifi.

If you do not mind reading german you can read in this thread

http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-26-8655-5.html

everything on PE 33 and PE34 players.

Search for " erstellt: 05. Aug 2009, 23:09" on this page. SGibbi who wrote this article is an expert on this turntables. I do own a few as well an a well set up PE 34 - which is not a job for a beginner - is an upperclass turntable which is very close in make-quality and sound to the famous TD124.

If you need further Infomation or held just contact me.
By the way I live in Aix la chapelle the city of Charlemagne

Best Regards,

Thomas

La meilleure chose à faire c'est de le contacter. [best thing to do is to contact him] ;)

henket
30-10-2009, 20:03
thanks for all

DSJR
30-10-2009, 20:49
When i was at HiFi daves, i got the chance to look through some very old mags. One had a glowing review of the Ferrograph S1 (individual review and in a group test :)). Another had a review of the PE34 and it was recommended as a precision auto unit (the following generation seemed to be dual clones, which is exactly what they were after the take-over).

Barry
30-10-2009, 21:03
When I was at HiFi daves, I got the chance to look through some very old mags. One had a glowing review of the Ferrograph S1 (individual review and in a group test :)). Another had a review of the PE34 and it was recommended as a precision auto unit (the following generation seemed to be dual clones, which is exactly what they were after the take-over).

Hence my suggestion that it might be one of the contenders for the next 'best kept secret'.

Regards

DSJR
30-10-2009, 21:08
I must be careful about that Angus Mackenzie 'Choice group test in 1976. the speakers all had very high power tests before the listening tests and I saw the result of one product annihilation for myself in the way of a blown and burned crossover.....

Rare Bird
10-11-2009, 12:34
Quad 240 Current dumper. Only 180 of these were made.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2401.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2404.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2403.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2402.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2405.jpg

Rare Bird
12-11-2009, 11:17
ONIX 'OA21'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/OA211.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/OA212.jpg

DSJR
12-11-2009, 20:48
The Onix is an established classic over here - one I never had anything to do with selling unfortunately. I have heard it sans SOAP though and it's a goodie.

Rare Bird
13-11-2009, 00:29
Get me a SOAP & i'll suck your cock :lol:

Joking aside i'm desperate for a SOAP, the ONIX were one of the best sounding amps from the 90's made mince me out of NAIM at fraction of cost.Naim fans save it! ;)

Marco
13-11-2009, 01:24
Loved the Onix!! I had one in the mid 80s and it was quite superb, much like a Sondex S230 I used a little later - both of those designs were veritable giant-killers and deserved much more commercial success than they achieved :)

Marco.

The Grand Wazoo
13-11-2009, 01:28
Onix - It makes me think of that little old shop at the bottom of Trafalgar Street in Brighton.

Rare Bird
13-11-2009, 10:12
Loved the Onix!! I had one in the mid 80s and it was quite superb, much like a Sondex S230 I used a little later - both of those designs were veritable giant-killers and deserved much more commercial success than they achieved :)

Marco.

Aye Sondex were great, very odd colour all the same..I think this firm was own by a Radford (Woodside) engineer, maybe wrong!

The Grand Wazoo
13-11-2009, 10:23
Aye Sondex were great, very odd colour all the same..I think this firm was own by a Radford (Woodside) engineer, maybe wrong!

Well I think the Mk IV Radford power amps (the last Radfords before the Woodsides) were made by Sondex

Rare Bird
13-11-2009, 10:55
Here's a 'BWD1' Tuner with 'SOAP' supply..gimmi gimmi yum yum

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/1150623384-1.jpg

Jonboy
13-11-2009, 14:28
Onix - It makes me think of that little old shop at the bottom of Trafalgar Street in Brighton.

Tell me more Chris i keep finding Hifi manufacturers in the Brighton area including Eposure in North Steet Portslade, there used to be a valve amp manufacturer in Trafalger Steet i believe that produced some nice old kit and Audion used to be made in Lancing about a mile away from me, i found out what else they also made there as well:eyebrows: but thats another story;)

The Grand Wazoo
13-11-2009, 15:02
Tell me more Chris i keep finding Hifi manufacturers in the Brighton area including Eposure in North Steet Portslade, there used to be a valve amp manufacturer in Trafalger Steet i believe that produced some nice old kit and Audion used to be made in Lancing about a mile away from me, i found out what else they also made there as well but thats another story

I think it was called 'Brighton Hi-Fi' & it was on the corner of Trafalgar Street & London Road. You got in from the Trafalgar Street entrance. I'm almost certain that the owner had a strong (ie ownership) connection with Onix. This would be mid-late 80's I guess.
Around the corner & along London Road a bit for Jeffries Hi-Fi & then a little later on from Brighton Hi-Fi there was Gary's shop 'Melos' near the top of Trafalgar Street.

All 3 shops were within a spit of the North Lanes - and what were perhaps the richest pickings in secondhand vinyl in the UK! Jeezus, I'd like to see all the money I spent in that square mile or so all piled up in one place! It was my playground for years.

Rare Bird
13-11-2009, 22:51
Arnt Audionote spin offs Brighton?

Jonboy
14-11-2009, 11:00
Audionote kit is made about 1 mile from my house in Lancing West Sussex, very good stuff but at very good prices

Rare Bird
23-11-2009, 00:33
QUAD '44'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/441.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/442.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/443.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/444.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/445.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/446.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/447.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/448.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/449.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/4410.jpg

Rare Bird
23-11-2009, 00:37
QUAD '520'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5201.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5202.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5203.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5204.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5205.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5206.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5207.jpg

Rare Bird
23-11-2009, 05:06
Tell me more Chris i keep finding Hifi manufacturers in the Brighton area including Eposure in North Steet Portslade, there used to be a valve amp manufacturer in Trafalger Steet i believe that produced some nice old kit and Audion used to be made in Lancing about a mile away from me, i found out what else they also made there as well:eyebrows: but thats another story;)

It's just dawned on me Onix Electronics were made in Brighton

darkstar078
28-12-2009, 17:55
Sony PS 5520 - headshell is not original though

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/darkstar078/my%20daily%20spinner/SonyPS55209.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/darkstar078/my%20daily%20spinner/SonyPS552010-1.jpg

Jonboy
28-12-2009, 18:59
It's just dawned on me Onix Electronics were made in Brighton

Thats just reminded me Andre,Ive got some bumf on Onix, they were made just outside in Newhaven i think, i will go and dig it out this week

beek
09-01-2010, 16:21
Had these for about 2 weeks in the early 80's till the ole Lady asked them to leave. 25W. X 25D inches. x 5Ft. high. Oministats :steam:

Ali Tait
09-01-2010, 16:32
They look interesting! How did they sound?

beek
09-01-2010, 17:12
The best I could describe would be a fast omnidirectional electrostat, they were a bit large for the room at that time. Richard Shahinian's venture into electrostatic omni's..

Alex_UK
09-01-2010, 17:12
They look like one of Neil's (Dalek Supreme) relatives! Interesting though, as Ali says, and I guess I can understand your wife's point of view - "a face only a mother could love" springs to mind! ;)

beek
09-01-2010, 17:15
They look like one of Neil's (Dalek Supreme) relatives! Interesting though, as Ali says, and I guess I can understand your wife's point of view - "a face only a mother could love" springs to mind! ;)

They did have a large black drop on hood made them look more ominus

Jonboy
09-01-2010, 17:30
I like the look of them Bill, the wife said they look like daleks as well

Ali Tait
09-01-2010, 17:46
Never heard of these,I'd like to have a listen!

Rare Bird
17-01-2010, 20:41
Thats just reminded me Andre,Ive got some bumf on Onix, they were made just outside in Newhaven i think, i will go and dig it out this week



Hi Jon
If you could scan it would be great

ONIX Addict
17-01-2010, 22:07
Hi Jon
If you could scan it would be great

Hi All...

Well, Jon, it makes me curious too!

;)


O.A.;)

Jonboy
17-01-2010, 22:11
i'll go look see tomorrow, give me a nudge if i forget, old age and all that

Rare Bird
18-01-2010, 01:29
The awesome Linx 'Stratos' pre/Pwr's

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LinxStratos.jpg

The Grand Wazoo
18-01-2010, 20:08
Another one that I liked too Andre. I seem to remember they made a big thing about the leaves over the source switches being cut with................wait for it................a laser!!!!
You can't really see them too well on that photo.

John
18-01-2010, 20:24
Is this worth £450
Lentek integrated amp

DSJR
18-01-2010, 22:10
Amazing how memories can so easily get rose-tinted... I'll give you the Onix integrated, which I only got to know much later on, after they folded...

The Lentek was great in parts, yet sounded so "gentle" that everyone turned it up, the clipping lights came on and it STILL didn't sound very loud. beautifully built though..

John
18-01-2010, 22:20
Thanks Dave not for my musical tastes then

Rare Bird
19-01-2010, 12:03
Another one that I liked too Andre. I seem to remember they made a big thing about the leaves over the source switches being cut with................wait for it................a laser!!!!
You can't really see them too well on that photo.

Linx were originally a New Zealand based company. The 'Nebula' intergrated i sold a few months ago (Like a pr*ck i am) were one of the UK manufactured units, this particular one had Audioplan internal Ag plated wiring, some units had Van Den Hul.

Aye chris they were lazer cut facia for the touch controls, the intial power on/off was on the rear via rocker switch which put the amp into stand by, all the source controls on the facia would then light a dim red, by pressing the facia power function you then activated the amp, then by pressing the desired input selection then the desired source would glow a brighter red as per the power function.Very clean detailed sound but they got very hot.

Here's a Linx 'Vega' Pre/Pwr..'oo' come to daddy

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LinxVega.jpg

Anyway to cover the above babbling i found this:

The Grand Wazoo
19-01-2010, 17:17
I was wondering if anyone here has seen, heard or sniffed one of these on UK shores?

Trio/Kenwood Supreme 1 A 33 watt integrated amplifier from 1967 - 69/70. Seperate amps for bass/mid/treble & an active x-over chucked in too!

http://www.thevintageknob.org/KENWOOD/SUPREME1/SUPREME1.html

......or (slightly less of interest, but of interest all the same) the range that followed it, the Supreme 500, 600, 600T, 700T, 700C and 700M.

Gramophone review of the Supreme 1 at the time said:

To the best of my knowledge the Trio Supreme 1 stereo amplifier is the only one on the British market which uses completely separate amplifiers for the bass, mid-range and high-frequencies although, whilst attending the recent Audio-Visual Equipment Exhibition in Paris, I heard Of other manufacturers who are proposing similar designs. Multi-channel amplifiers have been available previously and I well remember the Sound Sales Tri-Channel mono valve-operated system designed by the late Roy Wellington.

Are you reading this Anthony? I said I'd find something about that Sound Sales three way amp with different valve types for treble bass & mid!

Rare Bird
19-01-2010, 17:24
Hi Chris
I know i havent but i've always been intrested in the open frame Luxman tube amps

http://www.thevintageknob.org/LUXMAN/A3600/A3600.html

http://www.thevintageknob.org/LUXMAN/MQ360/MQ360.html

Jonboy
19-01-2010, 21:47
This is what i have found on Onix, a brochure sent out to a dealer with a glossy cover and photocopies of specs andlots of reviews inside dating from 1994

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/DSC_0131.jpg

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/DSC_0132.jpg

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/DSC_0133.jpg

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/DSC_0134.jpg

Rare Bird
19-01-2010, 23:08
This is what i have found on Onix, a brochure sent out to a dealer with a glossy cover and photocopies of specs andlots of reviews inside dating from 1994

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/DSC_0131.jpg



Nice one john this brochure is the iffy Onix period..Not proper Onix.

Thanks again

Dr. Flicker
05-02-2010, 03:24
year: 1963
designer: Hugh Spencer
manufacturer: Clairtone (Canada)

silver medal winner at the 1964 Milan Triennale.

Rosewood front & back panels, black leatherette side panels. All transistor (which why it can be fully enclosed. Rotating 18" spun aluminum speaker globes (with Warfedale drivers). Quality Clairtone receiver electronics with phono preamp. Garrard Lab 80 turntable with Grado BCR cartridge (first run models has Elac 10H turnatbles and the more powerful TC4 amps). all sitting on a solid aluminum swivel base. Looked good...sounded good. Sinatra had one...Hefner had one. Oscar Peterson said his music sounded as good on it as in his live performances (of course he was probably paid to say that ha).

Expensive to produce...expensive to buy ( $2k in 1963 )
Less than 400 sold....very collectible.

You need one.


http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4117/clairtone2.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/clairtone2.jpg/)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5751/clairtone3.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/clairtone3.jpg/)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3153/clairtone4.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/clairtone4.jpg/)

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/640/clairtone10.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/clairtone10.jpg/)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3269/clairtone7.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/clairtone7.jpg/)

Marco
05-02-2010, 06:53
Gosh, that is seriously cool! :respect:

Marco.

chris@panteg
05-02-2010, 09:42
Looks like a prop from Forbidden Planet ' amazing .


I must say that is one big pair of ball's :)

Rare Bird
12-02-2010, 18:48
Armstrong 'Series 500'

Lifted these pics from Flea Bay, hope the sellers don't mind but i thought it good as a reference points for anyone intrested.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Armstrong.jpg

Armstrong '521' Intergrated

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/523.jpg

Armstrong '523' AM/FM Tuner

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/525.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5252.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5253.jpg

Armstrong '525' FM Reciever (Tuner/Amp)



The Armstrong Series '500' were manufactured betweem 1968-72, the series comprised of the below models.

521 Amplifier
523 AM/FM Tuner
524 FM Tuner
525 FM Receiver
526 AM/FM Receiver

Rare Bird
12-02-2010, 19:02
Rogers Ravensbourne

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Rogers.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Rogers2.jpg

Complete with optional extra teak case, these were a good few quid extra.
I prefer the slotted case you can see with the tuner over the 'Cadet' type vent cut out you can see on the amp.

'Ravensbourne' is my second fav Rogers transistor ampilifier.

Marco
12-02-2010, 19:55
Very, very cool! :cool:

Marco.

Rare Bird
20-02-2010, 22:34
Well i went for this the other day for my vintage audio stash but missed out on it.

Crimson Elektrik '520' Power Amplifier, thin on the ground these days. Crimson also made a matching '510' battery pre-Amplifier..


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5201-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5204-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5202-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5203-1.jpg

Below: Crimson Elektrik '540' Active crossovers


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5401.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/5402.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/2403-1.jpg

Marco
21-02-2010, 00:39
Very noice - I had a pair of those once! :)

Marco.

Barry
21-02-2010, 00:41
Very noice - I had a pair of those once! :)

Marco.

Agreed - at one time I was thinking about buying a set.

Regards

Rare Bird
21-02-2010, 01:11
Here's my own totally mint condition Ferrograph 'F307-2' amplifier I don't use it but it's one of my fav amps.

BRITISH SEX


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/F7-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/F6-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/F5-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/F4-1.jpg

Marco
21-02-2010, 10:46
Lurvely! Does it work, though? :lol:

;)

Marco.

Barry
21-02-2010, 11:16
If it was mine Andre - I wouldn't let it go. It looks lovely - elegant clean lines, very late '70s, but much better looking than a lot of present day cosmetics.

Regards

DSJR
21-02-2010, 11:57
Looks suitably "scientific" doesn't it? Andre, you must buy a series 7 r-to-r to go with it...

hifi_dave
21-02-2010, 12:19
I bought an F-307 a couple of weeks ago because it was cheap and I can't find, in my warehouse, the one I thought I had...:scratch:

It looks good.....

Rare Bird
21-02-2010, 12:57
Lurvely! Does it work, though? :lol:

;)

Marco.

Yes perfect. Has new PSU & Output caps fitted.


Looks suitably "scientific" doesn't it? Andre, you must buy a series 7 r-to-r to go with it...

I have a matching '724' open reel already, i'm wanting a '704'


If it was mine Andre - I wouldn't let it go. It looks lovely - elegant clean lines, very late '70s, but much better looking than a lot of present day cosmetics.

Regards

Try late '60's Barry..1969 ;)..Nay not letting that go.

Barry
21-02-2010, 18:50
Yes perfect. Has new PSU & Output caps fitted.



I have a matching '724' open reel already, i'm wanting a '704'



Try late '60's Barry..1969 ;) ..Nay not letting that go.

Oops - I should have said late '60s! A fellow undergraduate had one and that was 1970. I was misled by my recollection of a friend trying out a Series 7 reel-to-reel tape deck in the late '70s, with similar styling.

Regards

Rare Bird
21-02-2010, 20:45
Pink Triangle 'PIP-II'

I've said it before here i'll say it again one of the best pre-amps ever built.

Thanks to John for letting me post these pics..Very very rare if not at all you see the Battery PSU & Mains Charger PSU available aswell.

If you fancy a bid here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PINK-TRIANGLE-PIP-2-Preamp_W0QQitemZ300398643610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers?hash=i tem45f127899a



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/PIP4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/PIP3.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/PIP2.jpg

The Vinyl Adventure
24-02-2010, 02:51
Andre mate looks like you have pulled!

I like this thread too actually, I like pictures!

Rare Bird
24-02-2010, 02:58
Andre mate looks like you have pulled!



Na he's been dumped :lolsign:

Rare Bird
24-02-2010, 14:40
Cambridge Audio 'P40'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/P40.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/P402.jpg

Barry
24-02-2010, 15:27
Cambridge Audio 'P40'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/P40.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/P402.jpg

Ah! the Cambridge P40. Always wanted one, but couldn't afford it at the time. Then I was an impeccunious student and had to build my own equipment. One of the first amplifiers to use a torroidal transformer allowing the slim profile. I loved the styling - I believe it won a Design Centre award. Didn't like the DIN speaker sockets though!

The later P50 and P60 also had innovative circuit ideas. I think the P60 was the first amplifier to put the volume control in the feedback loop.

They haven't weathered well with time: you would be lucky to find one in good cosmetic condition, and also they weren't known for their reliability.

A handsome slab of aluminium nonetheless.

Regards

DSJR
24-02-2010, 17:49
I've got a P50 in the loft. It's well dated in sound today unfortunately...

Pip? My AVI wees all over it - had them both to compare.... the DAC's were quite good though

Rare Bird
24-02-2010, 17:51
Pip? My AVI wees all over it - had them both to compare....

:lol: I believe you dave thousands wouldnt..

DSJR
24-02-2010, 18:06
Well, they associate a fantastic design (from Martin Grindrod) with the man that is Ashley James - and for many, that's a great shame.......

When you find a conventional, *very* Class A solid state preamp that gives you perspective, power, clarity, the ability to drive anything out there over long cable runs and which measures properly too, then you have to respect it, if nothing else. I very much respect my S2000 MP+P as well as my Croft 4PP - the Croft is catching up and will equal it once Glenn's worked on it...

By the way, there's a LAB series integrated on fleabay for not too much..

Rare Bird
25-02-2010, 03:31
One of the first amplifiers to use a torroidal transformer allowing the slim profile. I loved the styling - I believe it won a Design Centre award.

They haven't weathered well with time: you would be lucky to find one in good cosmetic condition, and also they weren't known for their reliability.



The 'P40' were amazingly streamline & modern looking for 1969.I adore the long throw pear drop style toggle switches & that pointer selector switch..They wernt that greater a finish to start with barry, i thought anodising on the black ones really poor, it gave a strange washed out browny/black type finish.. Regarding reliability i've had all that range including the 'T55' FM Tuner & all were bought broken, but hey solid wood side cheeks what more could you want ;) I liked the 'P110' most of all, this model came out around 1975...


Good old days ..

Rare Bird
25-02-2010, 12:20
Nytech 'CTA252XD' Tuner/Amp

Was never a Nytech fan but a nice pic for reference all the same.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NytechCTA252XD1.jpg

Rare Bird
25-02-2010, 12:30
Ion Systems 'Obelisk 3'

Always thought these sound better than certain simular size little amp ;).. Didnt like the later asthetics.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Ion2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Ion1.jpg

Jonboy
25-02-2010, 16:44
Ion Systems 'Obelisk 3'

Always thought these sound better than certain simular size little amp ;).. Didnt like the later asthetics.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Ion2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Ion1.jpg


I like the felt tip used to denote its voltage and phono cartridge use, your buggered if it rubs off

Rare Bird
26-02-2010, 12:03
Mission '737'

These are my own personal '737's. These were the speaker that replaced the white faced '727'...They are of course totally mint condition as all my classic gear is..They use the Audax 'TW025A0' tweeter that's still in production today.A time when Mission were cool.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/737.jpg

Rare Bird
26-02-2010, 12:32
MAF


These were may fav stands back then..Shame they long gone.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/MAF01.jpg

Barry
27-02-2010, 12:11
http://likecool.com/Gear/MediaPlayer/Nagra%20IV-S%20Professional%20Tape%20Recorder/Nagra-IV-S-Professional-Tape-Recorder.jpg

Chosen by the film industry as a standard for location soundtrack recording, these Swiss machines are now discontinued, having been replaced by digital reel-to-reel and hard disc recorders.

Mechanically they superbly reliable, using ruby tape guides and very hard-wearing heads, which rarely wear out. The electronics are also usually very reliable, though ironically my machine has just developed a problem that will probably be expensive to put right.

Barry
27-02-2010, 12:20
http://www.fmacoustics.com/pictures/hbg3-g.jpg

The Swiss company FM Acoustics claimed that every component in their electronics was chosen by listening tests. I have never seen any of their products appear on the secondhand market.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 12:25
http://likecool.com/Gear/MediaPlayer/Nagra%20IV-S%20Professional%20Tape%20Recorder/Nagra-IV-S-Professional-Tape-Recorder.jpg

Chosen by the film industry as a standard for location soundtrack recording, these Swiss machines are now discontinued, having been replaced by digital reel-to-reel and hard disc recorders.

Mechanically they superbly reliable, using ruby tape guides and very hard-wearing heads, which rarely wear out. The electronics are also usually very reliable, though ironically my machine has just developed a problem that will probably be expensive to put right.

aye i bid for one of those last year but got burried in the mud :steam:

there was extension arms available so you could use bigger reels

Macca
27-02-2010, 12:27
http://www.fmacoustics.com/pictures/hbg3-g.jpg

The Swiss company FM Acoustics claimed that every component in their electronics was chosen by listening tests. I have never seen any of their products appear on the secondhand market.

Big grab handles and holes for rack-mounting should be compulsory on all power amps;)

DSJR
27-02-2010, 12:45
Ion Systems 'Obelisk 3'

Always thought these sound better than certain simular size little amp ;).. Didnt like the later asthetics.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Ion2.jpg


That was the best of the three. the 2 and 1 were rather harsh as I remember. The previous Nytech 252 receiver was a rather flawed but so lovely and endearing classic and once was fitted into a "music centre" style cabinet with, I think, a Garrard Zero 100 turntable.

Barry
27-02-2010, 12:47
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/barrydhunt/th_sp91.jpg

These machines were made by a group of ex-Nagra engineers. Smaller than the Nagra and in some ways better, these machines never managed to achive the fame and reputation of the Nagras. The only portable machine that I know of that could run at 30ips and had a field-replacable head block. They rarely appear on e-Bay, and when they do fetch higher prices than Nagras. Now no longer made.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 13:30
Not a great picture but a rare Tannoy AP30/3 IP.1

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/TannoyAP303.jpg

Barry
27-02-2010, 13:57
http://www.savantaudio.com/mim3.jpg

100W/channel, DC coupled throughout.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 14:05
Rare Coles 'CE3001'

The '3001' actually gave a wider bandwidth than the '4001'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/ColesCE3001.jpg

Barry
27-02-2010, 18:37
This was my second amplifier:

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/JES/A51/C51pic.jpeg

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/JES/A51/A51photo.jpeg

25W/channel, pure class A. Excellent with Quad '57s

Barry
27-02-2010, 18:50
The Model 5A was first introduced to this country in the early '70s by Linn to replace the Grace 707.

http://www.walrus.co.uk/vinyl/breuer.jpg
Photo: Walrus Systems

Hand built by retired Swiss watchmaker, Herr Breuer. Breuer could not make enough to supply Linn, so they designed the Ittok based on some of Breuer's design principles and went to Japan for production.

The Breuer arms are legendary for the quality of their bearings and were one of the few arms approved by Koetsu for use with their cartridges. My model 5A is still doing stirling service fitted to a Thorens 124/II.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 18:52
http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/JES/A51/A51photo.jpeg

25W/channel, pure class A. Excellent with Quad '57s

Nice one Barry i used to have the Welding rig Sugden, not bad but not brilliant. Not as good as fettled Quad '303' anyway

Barry
27-02-2010, 18:55
This was my second preamplifier: the Hafler DH-101

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg104/dBel84/Picture210.jpg

Tin biscuit box construction, limited facilities but good sounding. Benefitted from 'fettling'.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 18:57
This was my second preamplifier: the Hafler DH-101

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg104/dBel84/Picture210.jpg

Tin biscuit box construction, limited facilities but good sounding. Benefitted from 'fettling'.

I had one of those Haflers with a DH220 power amp, They seem to fetch little money used these days

Barry
27-02-2010, 19:10
I had one of those Haflers with a DH220 power amp, They seem to fetch little money used these days

I know, and I'm not surprised: the push-button switches look and feel a bit 'tacky' but are adequate, and the RCA phono sockets are of a poor quality. Hence my comments about fettling. The standard version does not have a MC input; I installed my own design. A better sounding preamp than the Sugden C51; I still have both of them.

Barry
27-02-2010, 19:16
Nice one Barry i used to have the Welding rig Sugden, not bad but not brilliant. Not as good as fettled Quad '303' anyway

I think the C51 let the side down. I abandoned the power amplifier because it ran hot (it was Class A after all) and found that it could run out of 'head-room'. It did start the Great Amplifier Debate.

I still use a Quad 303 as part of my audio-visual set up, that is, it amplifies the audio output from the Freeview box.

Rare Bird
27-02-2010, 19:24
I know, and I'm not surprised: the push-button switches look and feel a bit 'tacky' but are adequate, and the RCA phono sockets are of a poor quality. Hence my comments about fettling. The standard version does not have a MC input; I installed my own design. A better sounding preamp than the Sugden C51; I still have both of them.

There easy to work on plenty of room inside & the parts a well spaced..I did try a full width DH110,it was an improvement.. i remember that well as i fried a pair of speakers with a Nakamich '582' cassette deck.

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 17:03
Grace 'G-960'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96002.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96003.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96004.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96005.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96006.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG96007.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/GraceG960.jpg

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 17:18
LENTEK

Slightly blur pics sorry..


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LEN01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LEN02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LEN03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LEN04.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/LEN05.jpg

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 17:33
TRANSCRIPTOR 'HYDRAULIC REFERENCE'

My fav turntable of all time, fitted with SME Series II 'Improved' & ADC 'VLM.3'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor04.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor05.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor06.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor07.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor08.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor09.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor10.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Transcriptor11.jpg

Marco
28-02-2010, 17:46
Hi Andre,

I've always loved those little record cleaning brushes that looks like a 'tonearm'! Any idea where I could get one? :)

Marco.

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 18:13
Hi Andre,

I've always loved those little record cleaning brushes that looks like a 'tonearm'! Any idea where I could get one? :)

Marco.

Hi Marco
They come up on E-Bay now & then both the Record & Styli brushes.Please note though that your deck has to be drilled as the threaded stud fix through the turntable, held in place with a wing nut. I doubt very mich that Mick Gammon re-manufacturers his dad's old transcriptor version & i know JA Michell don't.Very nice articles all the same.I'll keep my eyes peeled if you want.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/TTBrush-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/TTBrush2-1.jpg

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 18:17
You may not have heard of these but they sound great.Might be against the grain for some ;)


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Surrey01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Surrey02.jpg

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 18:22
NAGRA 'E'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NagE01.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGE02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGE03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGE04.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGE05.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGE06.jpg

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 18:26
NAGRA 'III'

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII05.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII06.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAGIII07.jpg

Marco
28-02-2010, 18:28
Lordy, you'll get Beechy all hot under the collar with that! :eek:


They come up on E-Bay now & then both the Record & Styli brushes.Please note though that your deck has to be drilled as the threaded stud fix through the turntable, held in place with a wing nut. I doubt very mich that Mick Gammon re-manufacturers his dad's old transcriptor version & i know JA Michell don't.Very nice articles all the same.I'll keep my eyes peeled if you want.


Please do - preferably though, a stick-on or 'rubber sucker' one would be better, as I don't wanna be drilling holes in my deck :)

Marco.

Rare Bird
28-02-2010, 18:30
Lordy, you'll get Beechy all hot under the collar with that! :eek:



Aye i bet he will .. i went through two pair of knickers alone putting that Nag 'E' up :lolsign:

Rare Bird
01-03-2010, 20:47
SOTA 'COSMOS'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Sota01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Sota02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/SotaClamp.jpg


SOTA 'COMET'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/SotaComet01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/SotaComet02.jpg

Rare Bird
01-03-2010, 21:07
MERIDIAN

'101B' Pre & '104' FM Tuner

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/101B104.jpg


'MCD' CD Player


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/MCD01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/MCD02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/MCD03.jpg

Macca
01-03-2010, 23:20
Loving these pics Andre!:cool:

Makes me want to go onto ebay and buy!...but I will resist!

Keep 'em coming:)

REM
02-03-2010, 08:22
Loving these pics Andre!:cool:

Makes me want to go onto ebay and buy!...but I will resist!

Keep 'em coming:)

They've tried flogging those SOTAs a couple of times but no takers yet, I reckon the dodgey wallpaper putting the punters off:lol:.

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 10:52
They've tried flogging those SOTAs a couple of times but no takers yet, I reckon the dodgey wallpaper putting the punters off:lol:.

Loverly :rolleyes: The guy was good enough to give me permission to post the pics, i don't think he'd be too happy seeing you taking the piss out of his decor!

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 11:00
CELEF 'STUDIO PROFESSIONAL'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL04.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL05.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/CEL06.jpg

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 11:20
MISSION ELECTRONICS 'DAD7000R'

First CDP i ever bought, great build on the Philips 'CD104'.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/DAD01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/DAD02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/DAD03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/DAD05.jpg

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 11:26
J.A.MICHELL 'REFERENCE SWEEP ARM'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Sweep01.jpg

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 12:54
J.A.MICHELL

Don't get this confused with the J.A.Michell/Trasnsrotor double Prisma, it's not..This is an extremely rare double deck using J.A.Michell 'Focus' platters, simular paltters were used on the J.A Michell 'Marble Reference' deck..You'll probably never ever see one of these again, so i thought i'd show it all glory.There is only an handfull of 'Prisma' double decks, these ones even less.

Complete with Fluid arm, rare J.A.Michell outboard arm stands & a mega rare Shure badged SME '3009.SII'..


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA04.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA05.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA06.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA07.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA09.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA11.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA12.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA13.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA14.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA15.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JA16.jpg

Marco
02-03-2010, 18:27
J.A.MICHELL 'REFERENCE SWEEP ARM'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Sweep01.jpg

Stop teasing me with pics of that wee brush 'cos you know I want one! :wah: :lol:

Marco.

Stratmangler
02-03-2010, 19:26
One of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WATTS-DUST-BUG-AUTOMATIC-RECORD-CLEANING-ARM-EX-COND_W0QQitemZ160407880745QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Au dioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables?hash=ite m25590e0429) do ya ?

Chris:)

hifi_dave
02-03-2010, 22:51
That double deck is 'kin ugly, is it even an official Michell or a bodge job ? I have one of the first double decks John made and it's a beautiiful thing with weighted platters and mounts for four arms, plus a lid....:)

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 22:53
Stop teasing me with pics of that wee brush 'cos you know I want one! :wah: :lol:


:lolsign: Wasnt intentional honest :lol:

So you want both the squirel hair sweep arm & Styli brush?

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 22:54
That double deck is 'kin ugly, is it even an official Michell or a bodge job ? I have one of the first double decks John made and it's a beautiiful thing with weighted platters and mounts for four arms, plus a lid....:)

yes that be the double 'prisma' you have. if you have a JA.Michell badge on it your very lucky as they were nearly all Transrotor badged ;)

hifi_dave
02-03-2010, 23:29
The 'double deck' was something that I asked John to make so that I could demonstrate arms. The deck takes four arms at one sitting and I have spare boards for another dozen or so. You can change an arm in two minutes flat, so it was dead easy to do comparisons.

John decided that it was (obviously) more cost effective to make a small batch of these decks than just the one and most of those went abroad, hence the Transrotor label. John asked me to pay 'what a Linn cost' for it and I was more than happy to oblige.

We had it turning in our shop window for years and I'd like a Pound for every kid who came in with 'Hey mate, ow much is that disco deck'....:doh:

Rare Bird
02-03-2010, 23:35
John was a nice bloke he would put himself out, make time to talk to you on the phone, he made me alsorts of non standard stuff for my old Hydraulic deck..

Hers a double 'Prisma' below

The Grand Wazoo
02-03-2010, 23:40
John was a true gent, one of those people who did what he did because he loved to do it. He never gave the impression that he was in business to make money (as he surely was) but more that he liked to do a job & do it well.

I still get a little sad about his passing when I think of the times our paths crossed. Just a really nice guy

Marco
02-03-2010, 23:52
:lolsign: Wasnt intentional honest :lol:

So you want both the squirel hair sweep arm & Styli brush?

Yarse sir, so keep yer peepers peeled for me! :)

Marco.

Marco
02-03-2010, 23:59
One of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WATTS-DUST-BUG-AUTOMATIC-RECORD-CLEANING-ARM-EX-COND_W0QQitemZ160407880745QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Au dioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables?hash=ite m25590e0429) do ya ?

Chris:)

Possibly ;)

Thanks, Chris!

Marco.

Rare Bird
18-03-2010, 11:44
SHURE 'C/PEK-3'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/shu.jpg

Barry
18-03-2010, 18:57
Possibly ;)

Thanks, Chris!

Marco.

No! - the Dust Bug is the last thing you want. The 'needle talk', caused by the bristles that 'track' the record grooves, will drive you mad.

Give you record a quick wipe with a carbon fibre record brush, 'zap' with a ionising gun (usually not necessary) and play. There is no need for the record to be cleaned as it is played.

Regards

Barry
18-03-2010, 18:59
SHURE 'C/PEK-3'


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/shu.jpg

What is it exactly? What does it do, and how does it do it?

It's such an arcane device does it qualify as a Classic Hi Fi Component?

Regards

Alex_UK
18-03-2010, 23:08
What is it exactly? What does it do, and how does it do it?

Who cares Barry, its got a VU meter! a bit like my CB radio - it just looks so cool!

But yes, as Barry said, What is it exactly? What does it do, and how does it do it?
;)

Rare Bird
19-03-2010, 04:01
What is it exactly? What does it do, and how does it do it?

It's such an arcane device does it qualify as a Classic Hi Fi Component?

Regards

It's used in conjunction with test record to perfectly set up cartridge, Audio Technica made one aswell.

Barry
21-03-2010, 01:25
It's used in conjunction with test record to perfectly set up cartridge, Audio Technica made one aswell.

Yes, I suspected as much. No doubt the test record was the Shure 'Audio Obstacle Course'.

I didn't know such devices existed. I've had to use my ears and occasionaly an oscilloscope.

Regards

DSJR
21-03-2010, 10:27
"SSSSSSibilance test, level 1 - (ok)

Level 2 - (ok)

Level 3 - (Supex's and old Linn MC's are buzzing by now)

Level 4 - Most MC's are jumping out of the groove and many mm's are ssssssssstraining

Level 5 - Only the V15 series and a VERY few others can cope

I can't remember the music Shure used, but once heard, it's never forgotten :lol:

The bass drum test was hilarious too.

StanleyB
23-03-2010, 22:26
After reading the posts about record cleaners/dust busters, I realised that I have had two such items stored away for probably 25 years now :rolleyes:. Does that make me a hoarder:scratch:?

The first is a Philips RC3000.jpg. I bought it for the included spare dusters.

http://www.homehifi.co.uk/images/aos/RC3000.jpg

The next one is the only tangential record cleaner I can remember seeing.

http://www.homehifi.co.uk/images/aos/TANTRACK.jpg

Alex_UK
26-03-2010, 21:29
lovely retro accessories, Stan - the Philips in particular is a thing of beauty! (Yes, you're a hoarder, I bet 99% of us are! :lol:)

DSJR
27-03-2010, 21:20
Hmm. I preferred the Michel sweep arm..

Alex, my teenage dreams were easy to beat and definitely best forgotten.... :lol:

Jonboy
28-03-2010, 00:35
my teenage dreams were easy to beat and definitely best forgotten.... :lol:

mostly met but not forgotten :eyebrows:

Beechwoods
28-03-2010, 09:03
I have a 70's Parastat dust-buster; I'll have to get some pics up here. Reminds me that I have a few other items of vintage gear that could do with adding to this thread :)

hifi_dave
28-03-2010, 09:25
I still regularly use the Watts Disc Preener and Manual Parastat...:)

DSJR
28-03-2010, 14:31
On your records???? :ner:

hifi_dave
28-03-2010, 19:05
Yup. Best things ever to clean records and relax static all in one.....:trust:

Rare Bird
29-03-2010, 10:20
Hmm. I preferred the Michel sweep arm..



Deffo.

DSJR
29-03-2010, 13:29
Trouble with the Parastat were the users of this device, almost all of whom flooded the wick with water and all but wet-cleaned the records as a result. Used as directed, it was very good indeed. Think I've still got one somewhere.

hifi_dave
29-03-2010, 13:57
If you go by the very comprehensive instructions, the Watts products are very effective. It's all I've ever used since the early 60's.

Rare Bird
30-03-2010, 15:26
Another one of my own personal classic toys. Totally mint just how i like em.
New Acoustic Dimension 'Model 60'..

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NAD01.jpg

DSJR
30-03-2010, 16:44
I remember that one (and sold a few) - New Acoustic Dimension - bloody good too and I think it sort of turned into the 3030...

Very good sound and the receiver was good as well..:) :) :respect:

Rare Bird
30-03-2010, 17:00
I remember that one (and sold a few) - New Acoustic Dimension - bloody good too and I think it sort of turned into the 3030...

Very good sound and the receiver was good as well..:) :) :respect:

Yes there was '60', '90', '200' amps in this range. The recievers were '120', '140', '160' & '300'. If anyone see a '300' please let me know.

Actually it's the '200' what the '60'/'90' turned into, same styling but i found the '200' flip switches a bit tacky.

Beechwoods
30-03-2010, 20:27
but i found the '200' flip switches a bit tacky.

I'm a 'Pioneer-round push button' man too if I'm honest :eyebrows: The font used for that Amp looks very 'Akai' doesn't it... would suit a high-end quad 8-track. A bit too showy for my tastes though!

Rare Bird
30-03-2010, 21:27
I'm a 'Pioneer-round push button' man too if I'm honest :eyebrows: The font used for that Amp looks very 'Akai' doesn't it... would suit a high-end quad 8-track. A bit too showy for my tastes though!

Aye i like those big round press buttons well sexy. I'll put a pick of my Akai 'CR81D' 8 track Tomorrow get your blood pumping, do you a pick of Nakamichi '500' cassette deck aswell bet youve not seen one of those for a long time ;)

Rare Bird
31-03-2010, 15:17
Here's mi Akai 'CR-81D' 8 Track sex machine ;) Complete with Jethro Tull 'Thich As A Brick' cartridge

Wants a tiny bit of work on it yet to get it in mint condition


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/AkaiCR81D.jpg

Rare Bird
31-03-2010, 15:30
Another one of mi toys!
Nakamichi '500 Dual Tracer'..Bulit between 1974-1978..Was a fantastic machine in it's day better than anything with exception to Naks own Tri-Tracers but at over over double the price of a '500'.I'm presently looking for a mint '600'

Sorry about the dark pictoores. This one is unusual in the fact thet they were mostly seen with White side pannels.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Nakamichi50001.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Nakamichi50002.jpg

Themis
31-03-2010, 16:27
This Nak was a dream when I bought my Sankyo... :)

Alex_UK
31-03-2010, 22:26
I heard an ad on the radio yesterday refer to "NAD" as N - A - D - I'd always pronounced it like go(nad) - does that make sense, and who is right? :)

The Vinyl Adventure
31-03-2010, 22:44
It's new audio (or acoustic - can't remember which) dimention alex so technically n-a-d although I call it nad too ... Erm I think anyway...

Rare Bird
01-04-2010, 00:02
It's new audio (or acoustic - can't remember which) dimention alex so technically n-a-d although I call it nad too ... Erm I think anyway...

These first NADs (New Acoustic Dimension) are the only ones i'll entertain. ;)

The Vinyl Adventure
01-04-2010, 00:11
The rest are just nads eh!? ;)
my first "hifi" amp was a c320 I thought it was pretty good At the time, although I can't really remember much about it now
we sell the c326bbe's in the shop too, they are alright for the money as far as I can tell in the shop and with what ki I have heard them with... Doing an install of one with some "old tannoys" tomo, so that could be interesting!!

REM
01-04-2010, 07:57
NAD = medical shorthand for No Abnormalities Detected.

Ali Tait
01-04-2010, 15:37
Yup,my first amp was a 3020.Great amp.

Alex_UK
01-04-2010, 15:58
Every day is a school day, isn't it? :)

Ali Tait
01-04-2010, 17:03
Lovin' that Nak Andre.I remember at school the music department having a Tandberg that looked a little like that.Can't remember the model,but I always wanted it!

Rare Bird
01-04-2010, 18:24
Lovin' that Nak Andre.I remember at school the music department having a Tandberg that looked a little like that.Can't remember the model,but I always wanted it!

I don't wanna expose your age :) but wat year you taking about i can help i'm a big Tandberg fan i have two at the mo.

Ali Tait
01-04-2010, 18:48
I aint that old. Not as old as Count Marcula anyway! I'm 41.Quite young for this place I think. :eyebrows:

Rare Bird
01-04-2010, 19:07
I aint that old. Not as old as Count Marcula anyway! I'm 41.Quite young for this place I think. :eyebrows:

http://home.online.no/~jandors/tandberg_kassett.html

hifi_dave
01-04-2010, 19:13
I've got a Tandberg TCD 310.

Andre,
Any chance of changing that Avatar to something a little more light hearted ? That one is giving me the hump...:(

Rare Bird
01-04-2010, 19:19
I've got a Tandberg TCD 310.

Andre,
Any chance of changing that Avatar to something a little more light hearted ? That one is giving me the hump...:(

Barry won't be an happy chappie ;)

You keeping the TDC310?

Ali Tait
01-04-2010, 19:37
Andre,it looked kinda like the first one,though my memory is uncertain.I do seem to remember it had big steel piano-like keys though.