Classic hi-fi components

[Rare Bird]

Andre,it looked kinda like the first one,though my memory is uncertain.I do seem to remember it had big steel piano-like keys though.

Probably the TCD300 then i have that one, very stiff to press down..Actually a very good sounding machine.

[hifi_dave]

Barry won't be an happy chappie ;)

You keeping the TDC310?

Thanks Andre, that's much better, good fun..:)

I will keep it even though I haven't got room to show it and a whole heap of other vintage gear off. I just love the look of a lot of the old stuff even though I'll never use it, just touch and dust it occasionally...:eyebrows:

I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Accuphase tuner (courtesy of Ali Tait) and an immaculate Ferrograph Series 6 tape deck. Lord knows where I'm going to store it all. It's an addiction...:trust:

[DSJR]

Oh you [beeeeeep]! You didn't tell me about that lot..... :scratch:

You'll have no room to dem the NEW stuff, let alone show off the vintage gear...... :eyebrows:

[Beechwoods]

Those pics of your 8-track and Nakamichi are lovely Andr'e... you've got a knack for tracking down mint-condition kit, that's for certain! My 8-track needs a mechanical cleanup. It sounded nice, but chewed a tape a while back and I've not been through it all to make sure it's completely clean along the tape path. It was a cart of my fave Byrds album too :(

I always open my cart's and clean the pinch-roller and re-pad them if they need it, because with 8-tracks the system is far more dependent upon good condition cartridges than cassette, but that time I got caught out. Once bitten...

It's surprising how many NOS carts there are out there, with good music on them. And for not much money. It's just a shame they more often than not were produced without sleeves, or with just generic slipcases.

My fave 8-track has got to be my 'Animals' one by Pink Floyd... the unique version of 'Pigs On The Wing' an' all.

If money were no object which stereo 8-track would you recommend? I recall Pioneer did one under the Centrex brand (the Centrex RH 60 /65) which came from c. 78-79 and would look very nice next to the RT-707. But I suspect Aiwa had the high-end cornered.

http://www.oaktreevintage.com/web_photos/Stereo_8-Track_Decks/Pioneer_RH-65_8-Track_b_Collage.jpg

[Rare Bird]

Those pics of your 8-track and Nakamichi are lovely Andr'e... you've got a knack for tracking down mint-condition kit, that's for certain! My 8-track needs a mechanical cleanup. It sounded nice, but chewed a tape a while back and I've not been through it all to make sure it's completely clean along the tape path. It was a cart of my fave Byrds album too :(

I always open my cart's and clean the pinch-roller and re-pad them if they need it, because with 8-tracks the system is far more dependent upon good condition cartridges than cassette, but that time I got caught out. Once bitten...

It's surprising how many NOS carts there are out there, with good music on them. And for not much money. It's just a shame they more often than not were produced without sleeves, or with just generic slipcases.

My fave 8-track has got to be my 'Animals' one by Pink Floyd... the unique version of 'Pigs On The Wing' an' all.

If money were no object which stereo 8-track would you recommend? I recall Pioneer did one under the Centrex brand (the Centrex RH 60 /65) which came from c. 78-79 and would look very nice next to the RT-707. But I suspect Aiwa had the high-end cornered.




I wouldnt be able to sleep at night nick if i knew there was a mark on my vintage gear, so scrutinising a seller is a big thing for me. ;)

Akai IMHO were the best 8 Track machines both sound & deffo build.The next machine i will buy will be the Akai 'GXR-82D'.. I am on the look out for a rare 'CR-81T' (Built in tuner)..Watch the really early Akai models they use an obsolete Sanyo chip that was prone to falure.

I don't like the '83's.

[Rare Bird]

Here's another one of mi toys in mint condition as always.

Especially for Marco this one :lol:

ADC Sound Shaper One Ten complete with my forehead

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/EQ.jpg

[Rare Bird]

One i picked up recently for peanuts, never been used in original box etc etc

Teac 'AN-60' Dolby NR

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/NR.jpg

[Marco]

Here's another one of mi toys in mint condition as always.

Especially for Marco this one :lol:

ADC Sound Shaper One Ten complete with my forehead

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/EQ.jpg

I love the build quality, Andre! :cool:

Marco.

[Beechwoods]

Especially for Marco this one :lol:

:lol: I assume that a 'W' EQ curve wasn't what they had in mind when they came up with the 'Sound Shaper' concept ;)

I love the TEAC Dolby unit. And I'm green at how little you got it for :)

[Rare Bird]

:lol: I assume that a 'W' EQ curve wasn't what they had in mind when they came up with the 'Sound Shaper' concept ;)



:lolsign: hope not, na just for fancy fer picki..

[Barry]

Barry won't be an happy chappie ;)

You keeping the TDC310?

Hi Andre,

Welcome back - knew you wouldn't stay away for long!

Nah, the Clockwork Orange avatar suits you. ;)

Regards

[hifi_dave]

Andre,
Any chance of a pic or two showing your vintage collection in situ and how you display/store it all ?

[Rare Bird]

Andre,
Any chance of a pic or two showing your vintage collection in situ and how you display/store it all ?

unless you wanna see a pile of boxes no :lol: i'll get em all set up soon..

[Rare Bird]

I have some goodies coming next week i'll post up pics that's if they arrive in wan piece :) Nothing special minst

[DSJR]

I look forward to trying a good oldie Quad 33. Should be great in the midrange if nothing else... :)

[Rare Bird]

John was a true gent, one of those people who did what he did because he loved to do it. He never gave the impression that he was in business to make money (as he surely was) but more that he liked to do a job & do it well.

I still get a little sad about his passing when I think of the times our paths crossed. Just a really nice guy

Um yeh i think Michell are probably the oldest UK TT maufacturers still going!i love em, no so much now tho...I don't wanna bind on about the olden days but they are the best days..Still love the buget Focus to death...

[Rare Bird]

A friend of mine in London just mailed me pictoores of a couple er his new toys

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/101.jpg

Sony CDP-101

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/JVC.jpg

A rare JVC 'JLB-44' DD..

[Light Capture]

My vintage Sansui from '77.
Au717 amp, dual mono, DC coupled, 85 wpc.
AT717 FM/AM, 4 gang FM tuning, 2 gang AM tuning, audiophile sound.
Not shown are the rack mounts and rack case just for these guys.
Some consider these to be their best pieces.

And my Dynaco A-25XL designed and made by SEAS in Denmark for Dynaco.

[Marco]

Everything is gorgeous there, Mike, but particularly that Sansui tuner - pure unadulterated Japanese engineering at its best! :eek:

Marco.

[retro]

Nice and clean Mike.:)
As I can see,some recaping is done.I hope you changed all the small capacitor.
But forgot to change those trim pot for DC and bias.Be sure to change them with some multiturn trim pot.

Regards,

[Spectral Morn]

My vintage Sansui from '77.
Au717 amp, dual mono, DC coupled, 85 wpc.
AT717 FM/AM, 4 gang FM tuning, 2 gang AM tuning, audiophile sound.
Not shown are the rack mounts and rack case just for these guys.
Some consider these to be their best pieces.

And my Dynaco A-25XL designed and made by SEAS in Denmark for Dynaco.


Just got hold of a Sansui 717 (its just arrived hopefully in one piece and not pieces :eek:). It has only taken me since last September. I had got hold of a Sansui 710 back then, but it never arrived ! To this day I still don't know why and the seller refused to answer any of my emails or return my phone calls, but eventually the threat of involving the police saw my money refunded but no explanation.

So thanks to DarrenW I now have a Sansui :) 717 for my tuner review.


Regards D S D L

[retro]

This is wonderful news Neil.
If it is in good condition you will be very pleased.We may have a winner of review :)

Regards,

[Spectral Morn]

This is wonderful news Neil.
If it is in good condition you will be very pleased.We may have a winner of review :)

Regards,

Took me 30 mins to unpack, Darren always does a good job. Everything as described, few marks here and there but nothing too major but not mint. I wasn't expecting mint.


I think that's about it now, unless an Acuphase comes along.


Regards D S D L

[Alex_UK]

I think that's about it now, unless an Acuphase comes along.

NOOOOOOO! - let's see the reviews BEFORE FM is switched off PLEASE! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

;)

[Spectral Morn]

NOOOOOOO! - let's see the reviews BEFORE FM is switched off PLEASE! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

;)

Hi Alex

I will try and make a start soon, but as this was very much my project and as much for my own knowledge as everyone else, I now find myself snowed under with current products to review for the magazine and they must come first.

Every item that is loaned to me, can only in fairness be held onto by me for a reasonable period of time and to delay reviewing, what is after all their stock that has been loaned, for a project of this nature would be unfair to those that loan it and a big thank you from me for those loans.

The project is still on, as I think is evident by my continuing to pick up review stock but trade review items must come first.

What I propose to do is compare the Sansui 517 to the 717 and the Kenwood 5020 to the 3050 first, as there is some debate as to which of these is better and we will take it from there.

I know I have been promising this for quite awhile now but when I first mooted the project I was not running and writing for an ever growing on-line magazine as I am now. I guess the tuner project is suffering as a result of the success of Adventures In High Fidelity Audio.

The other problem is the space in my main system I would need, is now occupied by items that are in the process of being run in for future AIHFA reviews.

Regards D S D L

[Alex_UK]

I was only pulling your leg me old mucker! I'm sure everyone understands. :)

[Spectral Morn]

I was only pulling your leg me old mucker! I'm sure everyone understands. :)

I know, but I felt a full explanation was owed to all.


Regards D S D L

[hifi_dave]

I have no idea why I keep buying vintage tuners but I have just scored a Beomaster 1700 in black and a Pioneer TX9100 to add to my collection..:doh:

I hope FM continues for a few more years.

[Spectral Morn]

I have no idea why I keep buying vintage tuners but I have just scored a Beomaster 1700 in black and a Pioneer TX9100 to add to my collection..:doh:

I hope FM continues for a few more years.

£53 for that 9100 was day light robbery :eek:or a bargain depending on your perspective. It should have sold for much, much more. I have one and frankly it is stunning :) It is said that it comes close to the Accuphase 101. Care to have a listen and report what you think.

Regards D S D L

[hifi_dave]

Yes and £10.50 for the B&O.

Everything is getting expensive on E-Bay but just now and then, people doze off and you can snap a bargain. Either that or no one wants to buy an FM tuner anymore...:scratch:

[Spectral Morn]

Yes and £10.50 for the B&O.

Everything is getting expensive on E-Bay but just now and then, people doze off and you can snap a bargain. Either that or no one wants to buy an FM tuner anymore...:scratch:

I debated whether to bid on the 9100 as the case on mine is probably not as good as the one in the auction but decided not to bother.

I was really shocked when it only reached £53. It should have sold for about £130 +. In saying that though the price of tuners on Ebay is dropping. In the last year for instance the price Pioneer 9800s are getting has dropped from £300 to around £80ish though they still can go for around £130ish or a tad more. I won a mint 9500 mk2 for £75 myself a few months ago, I was the only bidder.

Revox and Leaks Trough-Lines still do well but other classics are also dropping off in selling price as well, though with it being an auction high prices can still occur but it does seem to be rarer now days for that to happen.

I am a sad sod in that I watch the tuner sales everyday and bookmark items to see how they do. There are a few sellers living in the past with very high BIN prices, usually their items don't sell or they eventually get the message and auction it.

There has been one particular seller trying to sell a slightly ropey Trough-Line 3 for the last year or so at £150, he recently dropped the price to £140 :doh:still no sale....wise up :lol:


Regards D S D L

[hifi_dave]

I was watching a Hi-Fi Year Book a couple of weeks ago, 1972 I think it was. It went for £71 - seventy one Pounds....:stalks:

I've still got a few items to buy for my 'museum' and just hope I can get some more bargains but they are becoming rare.

[Beobloke]

I was watching an Aiwa AT-9700 tuner with its matching amplifier a few months back, wondering by how much I would have not been able to afford the final price.

Final sale price? - £42 for the pair.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHH!! :doh:

[Rare Bird]

Swings & Roundabouts on the bay, i watched a Quad '306' go last week for £61 fully working.Lowest i've ever seen is just under a ton.

[Alex_UK]

Well for no other reason than I can, I've bought myself a Sony TA-F4A - mainly (ok, only) because I have always wanted a proper hairy-chested 70's amp with VU Meters...

http://img13.abload.de/img/a910q.jpg

Aren't they a gorgeous timeless design? Probably sounds cack though! This is a photo off the web, the one I've acquired has apparently just been serviced and cleaned.

I don't even know what I'm going to do with it, but I just couldn't resist :eyebrows:

Now got to find some suitable 70's speakers... In fact, I think this will be the start of a complete 70's system :)

[Marco]

Nice find, Alex... I'm diggin' those metres, babby!

I doubt it'll sound crap, but even if it's not perfect, I'm sure it'll respond well to some judicious fettling ;)

Speaker wise, you could do a lot worse than land something like my Celestions :)

Marco.

[Alex_UK]

Nice find, Alex... I'm diggin' those metres, babby!

I doubt it'll sound crap, but even if it's not perfect, I'm sure it'll be responsive to some judicious fettling ;)

Speaker wise, you could do a lot worse than land something like my Celestions :)

Marco.

Funny you should mention Celestion - maybe not the exact same model, but could definitely be a possibility - I'd really like to get a pair that were made here in Ipswich if I go that route.

[Marco]

Yep, if you could accommodate one of the bigger models, like the 66s, that would be ideal!

Or here's a nice pair of 44s:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CELESTION-DITTON-44-pair-VGC-British-speakers-pair_W0QQitemZ220624741936QQcategoryZ14993QQcmdZVi ewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL% 252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIE W%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D270591749540 %252B270591749540%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7419 786711621308407


Or some 662 Studio Monitors:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Celestion-Ditton-662-Studio-Monitor-Vintage-Speakers_W0QQitemZ180526076564QQcategoryZ14993QQcm dZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DD LSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%25 2BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D27059174 9540%252B270591749540%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D 7419758248657358139

:)

Marco.

[hifi_dave]

Those 44's are great, in a retro way. I got a pair for my Son to round off his Bed-sit system. I only paid 40 Quid for them though....:ner:

[Marco]

Nice buy, Dave. They're probably also better than a lot of modern speakers, just like are my Ditton 15XRs ;)

Marco.

[hifi_dave]

IMHO, there are precious few good modern speakers. It all went out the window when matchstick sized, floor standers became the norm...:steam:

[Marco]

Too f*cking TRUE, amigo!!

Or... It all went out the window when British men lost their balls and became subservient hen-pecked puppets, pandering meekly to the (often unfair and selfish) wishes of 'her indoors' ;)

Both are responsible for the sorry state of affairs we have now, speaker-wise! :rolleyes:

Marco.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Alex, that amp looks great!
Did you pay much for it?
There's a lot to be said for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th system (more if you can swing it!) . If you get the speakers of your choice, what will you be using as a source?

Clue: one of the correct answers is 'A classic analogue tuner'

[Alex_UK]

Alex, that amp looks great!


Thanks, it certainly looks good in the pictures, hopefully will in the flesh


Did you pay much for it?

£65 - what can you get for that these days? I could possibly have got it cheaper (it was an ebay Buy It Now, but was sitting at £20 start, with no bids, with 2 days to go - so who knows?) They seem to be rarely on ebay etc., I don't think it was particularly special in the range of the time (1977) - overshadowed by the V-Fet Sonys around the same era - but I've not seen anything similar that cheap. Part of the reason I think is that the advertiser got the model name wrong in the advert, so no one would pick it up doing a search...


what will you be using as a source?

Clue: one of the correct answers is 'A classic analogue tuner'

And on the subject of "cock up your ebay ad" - I decided to walk away from this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/marantz-104-tuner-very-rare-tuner-/270597466153?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f00dda829#ht_1045wt_1256) last night, though I'm still almost kicking myself - but there's just something not quite right, look at the category he listed it under! (Listed in category: Musical Instruments > Guitars > Accessories > Tuners) - the secret to finding the bargains on ebay is this sort of wrong listing, but I thought if he doesn't even know what he is selling I don't want to be risking too much money...

So yes, a vintage tuner is on the cards, but not wanting to spend a fortune - any suggestions?

Don't want to spend masses on any component just want a nice retro looking setup that I can play with as a 3rd system, probably feeding into the garden, maybe even living in the summerhouse during the warm months. Oh, and might even be for my daughter, but am now thinking it might be too good to risk being coloured in or playdoh'd...

[Spectral Morn]

I was watching an Aiwa AT-9700 tuner with its matching amplifier a few months back, wondering by how much I would have not been able to afford the final price.

Final sale price? - £42 for the pair.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHH!! :doh:

The condition of those two were pretty ropey with, what looked like rust everywhere on them.

They haven't been selling for much recently, highest was.... if I remember right about £72 a month or so ago.

Regards D S D L

[Spectral Morn]

Thanks, it certainly looks good in the pictures, hopefully will in the flesh



£65 - what can you get for that these days? I could possibly have got it cheaper (it was an ebay Buy It Now, but was sitting at £20 start, with no bids, with 2 days to go - so who knows?) They seem to be rarely on ebay etc., I don't think it was particularly special in the range of the time (1977) - overshadowed by the V-Fet Sonys around the same era - but I've not seen anything similar that cheap. Part of the reason I think is that the advertiser got the model name wrong in the advert, so no one would pick it up doing a search...



And on the subject of "cock up your ebay ad" - I decided to walk away from this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/marantz-104-tuner-very-rare-tuner-/270597466153?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f00dda829#ht_1045wt_1256) last night, though I'm still almost kicking myself - but there's just something not quite right, look at the category he listed it under! (Listed in category: Musical Instruments > Guitars > Accessories > Tuners) - the secret to finding the bargains on ebay is this sort of wrong listing, but I thought if he doesn't even know what he is selling I don't want to be risking too much money...

So yes, a vintage tuner is on the cards, but not wanting to spend a fortune - any suggestions?

Don't want to spend masses on any component just want a nice retro looking setup that I can play with as a 3rd system, probably feeding into the garden, maybe even living in the summerhouse during the warm months. Oh, and might even be for my daughter, but am now thinking it might be too good to risk being coloured in or playdoh'd...

Not a bad tuner at all and for £16. I have a Marantz 125 Tuner looks similar to yours but with two vu meters stacked above each other. To be honest though its not a particularly good Marantz and does not have much of a rating on Tuner Info.net. so £16 is fair enough they reckon up to $50.

I once got a nice Akai 580 for £25. It was listed in the reel to reel section. I see Hayden Boardman is trying to get £100 for one. He was trying with £120. I don't think he has any chance of getting those prices, £50 perhaps but not much more imho of course.


Regards D S D

[Rare Bird]

IMHO, there are precious few good modern speakers.



I'm shocked to see those wurds Dave :lolsign:

[hifi_dave]

OK, to shock you further - there are precious few good modern amps and turntables....:eek:

[Rare Bird]

OK, to shock you further - there are precious few good modern amps and turntables....:eek:

Few! thats being a bit generous Dave :lolsign:

[Barry]

........


And on the subject of "cock up your ebay ad" - I decided to walk away from this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/marantz-104-tuner-very-rare-tuner-/270597466153?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f00dda829#ht_1045wt_1256) last night, though I'm still almost kicking myself - but there's just something not quite right, look at the category he listed it under! (Listed in category: Musical Instruments > Guitars > Accessories > Tuners) - the secret to finding the bargains on ebay is this sort of wrong listing, but I thought if he doesn't even know what he is selling I don't want to be risking too much money...

£16 !!!!!!!!! No wonder you are kicking yourself!

So yes, a vintage tuner is on the cards, but not wanting to spend a fortune - any suggestions? I'm sure Chris would recommend an Accuphase 101 and others, myself included, a Leak Troughline Stereo

Don't want to spend masses on any component just want a nice retro looking setup that I can play with as a 3rd system, probably feeding into the garden, maybe even living in the summerhouse during the warm months. Oh, and might even be for my daughter, but am now thinking it might be too good to risk being coloured in or playdoh'd... But will it be the sort of system you would want "... your servants to listen to"?

Regards

[Joe]

Too f*cking TRUE, amigo!!

Or... It all went out the window when British men lost their balls and became subservient hen-pecked puppets, pandering meekly to the (often unfair and selfish) wishes of 'her indoors' ;)

Both are responsible for the sorry state of affairs we have now, speaker-wise! :rolleyes:

Marco.

But since speakers only contribute about 10% to the sound quality of a system, it doesn't really matter.

[Barry]

But since speakers only contribute about 10% to the sound quality of a system, it doesn't really matter.

Who says?

[Mike]

Who says?

Master Toy. :)

But I think he may have been in one of his 'thought provoking' moods! ;)

[Alex_UK]

Who says?

Mr Toy - post #12 http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6832

[Joe]

Who says?

Steve Toy, post no 12 in the 'chez themis' thread:

'I find that speakers account for about 10% of the overall signature of a system and no more.'

Maybe he can't persuade his wife to allow some big Tannoys into the house, and this is post-hoc rationalisation.

[Marco]

Steve champions the rebellion against 'WAF', yet I can tell you it definitely isn't him who wears the pants in his house! More like the floral pinny :eyebrows:

;)

Marco.

[Techno Commander]

Steve Toy, post no 12 in the 'chez themis' thread:

'I find that speakers account for about 10% of the overall signature of a system and no more.'

No way, Speakers account for a lot more to the overall sound and presentation than that.

[The Grand Wazoo]

That 10% was further refined to an astonishing 5%.
Still waiting to be told just how this (or any such figure) might be derived.

Alex, there are many tuners that will do the job just fine, and for very little money at the moment. An Accuphase would probably cost a bit more that you'd like to spend and you'd probably get into a bidding war with Neil over one of those. A Troughline will give you a great sound as long as you have a decent signal available to you. It would also cost under £100, but if you have to add a decent aerial & have it realigned etc, you might be better off going for a Japanese model. Personally I think that manual units are best & couldn't contemplate owning anything too much beyond Andre's musical timeframe (well, OK '79/80 then).

I'm a bit busy at the mo' but if you see something you fancy on Ebay or somewhere, PM me & I'll happily pass on anything I know. I'm sure Neil will do the same (if you want to risk alerting him to something he might want!!!).

[Alex_UK]

Alex, there are many tuners that will do the job just fine, and for very little money at the moment. An Accuphase would probably cost a bit more that you'd like to spend and you'd probably get into a bidding war with Neil over one of those. A Troughline will give you a great sound as long as you have a decent signal available to you. It would also cost under £100, but if you have to add a decent aerial & have it realigned etc, you might be better off going for a Japanese model. Personally I think that manual units are best & couldn't contemplate owning anything too much beyond Andre's musical timeframe (well, OK '79/80 then).

I'm a bit busy at the mo' but if you see something you fancy on Ebay or somewhere, PM me & I'll happily pass on anything I know. I'm sure Neil will do the same (if you want to risk alerting him to something he might want!!!).

Thanks Chris, much appreciated. You're pretty much spot on with where I am headed I think - I'm not after anything "legendary" just something that will put in a reasonable performance, and, look 70s cool. Plenty of options and no mad rush. Thanks again.

[DSJR]

My tuner issue is that my Arcam Delta 80 sounds the best of all, but looks so boring compared to the 70's greats. It was an analogue tuner with digital display.

[Themis]

Steve Toy, post no 12 in the 'chez themis' thread:

'I find that speakers account for about 10% of the overall signature of a system and no more.'
I think that what Steve means is that you can get a very good result with £1k speakers and you have lots of room for obtaining good music with the rest even with such speakers.
So, in short, what he means is that above this price speakers go quickly expensive.


Maybe he can't persuade his wife to allow some big Tannoys into the house, and this is post-hoc rationalisation.
We listened to Tannoys the other day, but I think the price is more of a show stopper than the size (£11k). Moreover, Steve found out that you can have excellent Tannoy sound with 12" speakers. So the size matters less. ;)

[Dave Hewitt]

Hi I have often been tempted to the 15 inch tannoys several times but have wondered if the 12 inchers would give the same scale but ,have a faster sound.I have always given the 12 inch models a miss but after whats been said here wonder if there is much difference between the two.
Cheers Dave.

[Macca]

Hi I have often been tempted to the 15 inch tannoys several times but have wondered if the 12 inchers would give the same scale but ,have a faster sound.I have always given the 12 inch models a miss but after whats been said here wonder if there is much difference between the two.
Cheers Dave.

HFW reviewed the 12'' Yorkminster a couple of years back and concluded that to get the full benefit (real low bass and 'slam') a large room was needed. That's why Tannoy offer 8'' and 10'' versions.

This review really intrigued me at the time but as the price is way beyond my reach I figured I would never actually get to hear any; but I have since had a listen to Ian's 15'' Canterburys and was amazed. They are not 'slow' in any way but if HFW are correct then his room is not large enough to get the full benefit and he could have 'made do' with the 10s or 12s and not noticed a difference.

[Dave Hewitt]

Hi Martin,I have heard Ians tannoys and came to the same conclusion as you,they didnt sound slow to me,but i once heard a pair of Edinburghs which I thought were crap,in a room of similar size to Mr Walkers,so cant make up my mind if HFW are correct in their assumptions regarding room size.Cant be the amp giving the difference in scale because I tried my myamps on them at Ians

Dave.

[Rare Bird]

My tuner issue is that my Arcam Delta 80 sounds the best of all, but looks so boring compared to the 70's greats. It was an analogue tuner with digital display.

I loved the A&R Cambs 'T21' to bits was so good at picking up even withought a good ariel.Was just the nighmarish tuning display that did my head in..

[Macca]

Hi Martin,I have heard Ians tannoys and came to the same conclusion as you,they didnt sound slow to me,but i once heard a pair of Edinburghs which I thought were crap,in a room of similar size to Mr Walkers,so cant make up my mind if HFW are correct in their assumptions regarding room size.Cant be the amp giving the difference in scale because I tried my myamps on them at Ians

Dave.

Hi Dave

Could be becasue the Edinburgh is an older model whereas Ian has the modern up to date spec?

[Spectral Morn]

Thanks Chris, much appreciated. You're pretty much spot on with where I am headed I think - I'm not after anything "legendary" just something that will put in a reasonable performance, and, look 70s cool. Plenty of options and no mad rush. Thanks again.

Alex if you can wait a bit I will have tuners a plenty for sale when my write up is finished. I will only be looking for what I paid for them.


Regards D S D L

[Jonboy]

My tannoy Sterlings fill my room with only 8 watts driving them, its 0ver 30 ft long and 13 foot wide with a vaulted ceiling in part of it, they have plenty of bass and only have a 10 inch driver, i have been tempted to go bigger and try 15's but it will mean having something that needs a couple of wardrobes for cabinets to make the most from them, i think Marco's Lockwoods are a good compromise for size, i have listened to Westminsters as well, they do need a concert hall to make them sing and really shout if the room is to small from my experience.

[Marco]

Hi Dave,


Hi Martin,I have heard Ians tannoys and came to the same conclusion as you,they didnt sound slow to me,but i once heard a pair of Edinburghs which I thought were crap,in a room of similar size to Mr Walkers,so cant make up my mind if HFW are correct in their assumptions regarding room size.


You've also heard mine in an even smaller room than Ian's, and they rock! There's nothing 'slow' about them whatsoever. I think Avinash is still trying to get over what he heard the last time ;)

Martin, you must pop over sometime for a sesh. I'd value your opinion of the difference in presentation between my Tannoys and Ian's - both are excellent but a little different :)

I've got a fair bit of experience now with listening to different Tannoys, and what's blatantly obvious is that the type of presentation offered depends largely on the vintage of the drivers and type and size of cabinets used.

When 15" drivers are used, for example, the cabinets must have a minimum internal volume of 300 litres - anything smaller than that will not allow the drivers to 'breathe', and thus a thin and somewhat 'pinched' sound will ensue, in comparison to what is possible with bigger cabinets. Therefore cabinets of the size of Ian's Canterburys and my Lockwoods are mandatory when 15" drivers are used.

Also, rather crucially, baffle width must be such that the huge cones have sufficient space on either side of the front of the cabinets to allow a 'freedom of movement' that ensures optimal performance, which is why you need a very wide baffle area to successfully accommodate this aspect of their design. This is one of the reasons why I don't think that the current Glenairs (which use 15" drivers) are entirely successful because compromises have been made in that area in order to make them more domestically acceptable.

Unfortunately, in some of the older designs, Tannoy had a habit of 'shoe-horning' their larger drive units into cabinets which were way too small to allow those drive units to behave optimally. Perfect examples of this were the Berkeleys with 15" drivers and Devons with 12" drivers. Both of those speakers used cabinets’ way too small for their respective drive units, and had a compromised sound as a result, although they could still be huge fun to listen to.

With regard to huge Tannoys needing very big rooms to work properly, all I can say is that experience so far suggests that is not the case.

It will of course largely depend on the vintage and type of speaker concerned, however neither Ian nor I have big rooms for our respective 15" Tannoys, and have experimented with the seating position we use. We have found that they suit near-field listening rather more than they do when one is sat further towards the back of the room, where bass sounds rather full and starts to dominate proceedings. The effect is very obvious in both of our rooms.

Therefore, when listening, we both sit around 3 metres away from our speakers for optimal results. Crucially, I also discovered this at the show we did at Scalford Hall, where my Lockwoods were used in a room about three times the size of mine at home, and guess where they sounded best? Yes, it was near-field, around 3-3.5 metres away! Consequently, the first two rows of seats were where the sweet spot was, and they sounded excellent there. Conversely, at the back of the room the sound was boomy and quite horrible.

Now of course much will depend on the acoustics of the room concerned, and the plasterboard walls of the room at Scalford Hall would not have helped matters (some large rooms might indeed work very well), but consider the results Ian and I have achieved with near-field listening at home and also that around 90% of Tannoy's biggest models in the Prestige range are exported to discerning audiophiles in the Far East, where the rooms are not much bigger than a postage stamp.........and the notion that large rooms are mandatory is far from conclusive.

As ever, there are simply too many variables, so one just has to suck it and see! :cool:

Marco.

[Macca]

As I recall it (and I still have that issue somewhere) the point NK was making in the very extensive review was that whereas the full benefit of the Yorkies capabilities was only realised in the large room they still sounded excellent in the smaller room. So no conflict with any of our own 'hands on' experience.

Interstingly Ian mentioned to me that the Tannoys were the only large speaker he had used that did not suffer from excess bass in his room. As you say, so many variables.

[Joe]

I think that what Steve means is that you can get a very good result with £1k speakers and you have lots of room for obtaining good music with the rest even with such speakers.
So, in short, what he means is that above this price speakers go quickly expensive.

But what he said was that speakers (any speakers?) contribute only 10% of the overall signature of a system (any system?) Which is nonsense, because speakers, and the speaker/room interface, can make or break a system. I won't put percentages on it, but I'd say speakers are at least as important as source or amplification, and, unlike source or amplification, are often very room-dependent. I spent a long time changing source and amplification in my main system, but the problem was actually with the speakers, or more specifically, with those speakers in that room. They had a 'warm' balance that might have worked in a bare, sparsely furnished room, but were a disaster in our cosy, carpeted room with bookshelves lining two walls.


We listened to Tannoys the other day, but I think the price is more of a show stopper than the size (£11k). Moreover, Steve found out that you can have excellent Tannoy sound with 12" speakers. So the size matters less. ;)

So is he getting some 12" speakers?

[Marco]

Hi Martin,


As I recall it (and I still have that issue somewhere) the point NK was making in the very extensive review was that whereas the full benefit of the Yorkies capabilities was only realised in the large room they still sounded excellent in the smaller room. So no conflict with any of our own 'hands on' experience.


Indeed. It will of course depend on the acoustics of the large room concerned, but as I've said, in my experience so far, using more of the room, by sitting further away from large Tannoys, actually makes the sound worse!


Interstingly Ian mentioned to me that the Tannoys were the only large speaker he had used that did not suffer from excess bass in his room. As you say, so many variables.

Absolutely - I've been there when things haven't gone so well with his speaker selection.

The reason that big Tannoys can work well in smallish rooms is because the 15" drivers hardly need to move much to generate a room filling sound, and therefore don't 'excite' the room as much as smaller drive units which have to move more when attempting to generate similar sound levels.

If I were to use some of the large, ported, floor-standing designs with multiple arrays of 6.5" drivers in my room, the bass would be as boomy as hell and the results would be terrible, even though, physically and in terms of internal volume, they're a fraction of the size of my Lockwoods :)

Marco.

[Macca]

Hi Martin,



as I've said, in my experience so far, using more of the room, by sitting further away from large Tannoys, actually makes the sound worse!



.

In a larger room you still sit say 10' (or whatever works best) from the speakers - you just have another 10' or so behind them for breathing room. As depth of bass is dependant on the length of the longest dimension of the room this arrangement in theory would give the best of both worlds.

How about carting your Lockwoods round to my place (29' room, solid walls and floor) and we will give it a go?;) - not a very practical suggestion I know but would be educational.

[Marco]

In a larger room you still sit say 10' (or whatever works best) from the speakers - you just have another 10' or so behind them for breathing room. As depth of bass is dependant on the length of the longest dimension of the room this arrangement in theory would give the best of both worlds.


In theory, Martin, perhaps, but that certainly wasn't what happened at Scalford Hall. The sound at the sweet spot in a massive room, roughly the same distance away as I listen at home, wasn't any better. I suspect it's mostly down to the type of room, in terms of how it's constructed, than the size.


How about carting your Lockwoods round to my place (29' room, solid walls and floor) and we will give it a go?;) - not a very practical suggestion I know but would be educational.

Hahaha.... Aye, you hire the van and some men to humph them there and back, and you're on!

Alternatively, why not just come round and listen to them where they are? :cool:

Marco.

[Macca]

Alternatively, why not just come round and listen to them where they are? :cool:

Marco.

Would love to but I have still not taken Steve up on his generous offer to go and listen to his system - I just never seem to get around to these things and not having a car does not help. I will try to do better as I'm badly in need of further hi-fi education to work out were to go next.

Cheers dude:cool:

[Marco]

Well, Steve's the taxi driver, so get him to run you there and back! ;)

Joking aside, knowing Steve, I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with that :)

As far as I'm concerned, I think there's a direct train (or perhaps one change involved) from Stafford to Wrexham General, and I'd pick you up from there :cool:

Marco.

[Macca]

Well, Steve's the taxi driver, so get him to run you there and back! ;)

Joking aside, knowing Steve, I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with that :)

As far as I'm concerned, I think there's a direct train (or perhaps one change involved) from Stafford to Wrexham General, and I'd pick you up from there :cool:

Marco.

Yes we will sort it - I will check out the logistics and PM you

Regards

[Alex_UK]

Alex if you can wait a bit I will have tuners a plenty for sale when my write up is finished. I will only be looking for what I paid for them.


Regards D S D L

Excellent - that could be a plan, I'm in no rush (I'm only needing amp & speakers for current short-term intention of running a slave system from my main system into the garden whilst we have this lovely weather)

Thanks Neil.

[Spectral Morn]

Excellent - that could be a plan, I'm in no rush (I'm only needing amp & speakers for current short-term intention of running a slave system from my main system into the garden whilst we have this lovely weather)

Thanks Neil.


No problem Alex


Regards D S D L

[Rare Bird]

Rogers Master

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Master01.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Master02.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Master03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Master04.jpg

[Tasuke]

PIONEER PD-91 COMPACT DISC PLAYER (1988/1990)


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91%20AUDIOGON%207-27-10/DSC_2570.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91%20AUDIOGON%207-27-10/DSC_2566.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91%20AUDIOGON%207-27-10/DSC_2569.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91%20AUDIOGON%207-27-10/DSC_2574.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91%20AUDIOGON%207-27-10/DSC_2576.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PD-91-inside.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91/PD-918.png

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-91/PD-91PICK-UP.jpg

[Tasuke]

PIONEER C-90/91 PREAMP (1987/1989)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/C-904.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/C-905.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/C-9010.jpg


C-90 REMOTE

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/C-90RMT1.jpg

C-91 REMOTE

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/C-91RMT1.jpg


PIONEER M-90 POWER AMP (1987/1989)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/M-901.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/M-904.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/M-915.jpg


PIONEER DSS-9 (1985/1989)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/DSS-92.jpg


PIONEER TZ-9 (1989/1???)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/TZ-92.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/TZ-91.jpg

[Tasuke]

PIONEER PL-90 STEREO PHONOGRAPH TURNTABLE (1986/199?)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-901-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-902.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-903.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-905.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-907.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-908.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PL-909.jpg

[Techno Commander]

Thats a hardcore looking turntable. :)

[Tasuke]

PIONEER CT-91 LASER AMORPHOUS HEAD CASSETTE DECK (1988/1990)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-91SR1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-9131.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-91a7.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-91a10.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-91a11.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/CT-91a12.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER/CT-S80012.jpg

[Rare Bird]

I've a feeling your into Pioneer :rolleyes:

[Tasuke]

PIONEER PD-M90X MULTI-PLAY CD PLAYER (1987/1989)


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PD-M90Xinside2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver5.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver4.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20PD-M90X%20MACGYVER/PIONEERPD-M90XMacGyver6.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/PD-M90X102.jpg

[Tasuke]

PIONEER DV-09 DVD PLAYER (1998/2000)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DV-09MacGyver06-16-09.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DV-09MACGYVER2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DV-09MACGYVER3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DSCF1959.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DV-09MACGYVER4.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/DV-0912.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/1999PIONEERCATDV-09.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/1999PIONEERCATDV-092.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/1999PIONEERCATDV-093.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/DV-09/1999PIONEERCATDV-094.jpg

[Tasuke]

PIONEER F-91 AM/FM STEREO TUNER (1987/1989)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/F-911.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/F-912.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/F-913.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/F-915.jpg



PIONEER D-1000 DIGITAL AUDIO TAPE DECK (JAPAN ONLY) (1987/198?)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/D-10001-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/D-10002-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/D-10005.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/D-10003-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/D-10004.jpg


PIONEER A-91D INTEGRATED STEREO AMPLIFIER (1987/1989)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/A-91D1-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PIONEER%20ELITE/A-90D2.jpg

[Alex_UK]

I've a feeling your into Pioneer :rolleyes:

That's the impression I'm getting Andre, but I'm not 100% sure. :lol:

[The Grand Wazoo]

This is my kind of Pioneer
































Down there






Pie On Ear
http://www.ronscott.com/editorial/RonScottPieFace.jpg

[Barry]

Thank goodness a second page has been started. I was getting sick to death of scrolling down endless, repeated, photos to read the latest post on this thread!

[Rare Bird]

ffk Sake enoughs enough i recon

[Beechwoods]

Thank goodness a second page has been started. I was getting sick to death of scrolling down endless, repeated, photos to read the latest post on this thread!

Barry, you can always click the little Blue Box with the ∨ mark to the left of any thread with unread posts in it. This takes you to your first unread post. Very useful!

[webby]

Barry, you can always click the little Blue Box with the ∨ mark to the left of any thread with unread posts in it. This takes you to your first unread post. Very useful!

I was just gonna say that.

[Barry]

Thanks guys - I didn't know that.

Will do so in future and save 'wearing out' my mouse with those threads containing a lot of photos.

Cheers

[Alex_UK]

I didn't know that either - every day is a school day, thanks Nick! :)

[Agequodagix]

Perpetuum Ebner PE-34

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/PE34.jpg

I was the owner of this item between 1964 and begin 1970, in Sterrebeek, belgium. I recognise the wooden part!

[The Grand Wazoo]

I think that may have been Andre's when the picture was taken!

Hello Charles and welcome to The Art of Sound - and what a way for you to find us!
Would you mind stepping over to the welcome area to introduce yourself to the community? Perhaps you could tell us a little about yourself & your equipment - past and present(!) - and the music that you like.

Thanks

[jimdgoulding]

A Fidelity Research arm, eh, Filterlab? ! had an FR Mk.III cartridge years ago and it was positively luscious sounding. Owned some Rogers LS3/7a's, also. Bought them in West London and hand carried them by small plane to Le Touguet, Fr., then on an afternoon train to Paris, then back to the States. The things we do for good sound.

[Rare Bird]

A Fidelity Research arm, eh, Filterlab? ! had an FR Mk.III cartridge years ago and it was positively luscious sounding.

He's too young to even know what one is :lol:

[Tweedle-Dee]

I have made contact with a guy doing a house clearance. He has many classic speakers and other components for sale. I can't try any out, but I am keen to 'save' a few choice items as they will end up in a clearance auction and no doubt go for buttons. From what I've been told, the following items are available:
Speakers:
Mordant Short Pageant
B&W DM4
Wharfedale Linton
Goodmans Acromat
Upward ? Firing Sansui

Goldring Lenco turntables
Leak tonearm and transformer
Decca London tonearm

Rogers integrated amp

All dates back to 1970s

Any advice would be most welcome as I would need to get back to him in the next day.

Cheers,
TD

[Macca]

If you've got the space to store it then have the lot, it will all sell on no problem if you decide to get rid. I once turned down a whole room full of Garrard and Goldring TTs (about 30 of them - lots of GL75s) thinking I didn't have space to store them and no-one would want them - that was 15 years ago and GL75s now fetching about £100 each :doh:

[Tim]

If you've got the space to store it then have the lot,
+1

[Rare Bird]

I have made contact with a guy doing a house clearance. He has many classic speakers and other components for sale. I can't try any out, but I am keen to 'save' a few choice items as they will end up in a clearance auction and no doubt go for buttons. From what I've been told, the following items are available:
Speakers:
Mordant Short Pageant
B&W DM4
Wharfedale Linton
Goodmans Acromat
Upward ? Firing Sansui

Goldring Lenco turntables
Leak tonearm and transformer
Decca London tonearm

Rogers integrated amp

All dates back to 1970s

Any advice would be most welcome as I would need to get back to him in the next day.

Cheers,
TD

If they are Mordaunt Short 'Pageant II' they are great speakers, i'm using a pair now with rebuilt crossovers.Not fetching much unfortunatly

B&W 'DM4' i also like.. Celestion HF1300/Coles 4001 classic tweeter combo..

[BTH K10A]

I've not seen a Quad II quite like this before. The Redifusion spec must have been slightly different. :hmm:

It would be a good find for a Quad collector though.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QUAD-II-VALVE-POWER-AMP-PLUS-CONTROLLER-1960S-ser-1707-/170624484680?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item27ba030548#ht_500wt_1156

[Tweedle-Dee]

If they are Mordaunt Short 'Pageant II' they are great speakers, i'm using a pair now with rebuilt crossovers.Not fetching much unfortunatly

B&W 'DM4' i also like.. Celestion HF1300/Coles 4001 classic tweeter combo..

Thanks guys,

I couldn't take the lot, but did pick up a few nice items (missed a fully working Cambridge Audio CD1, that went last week though!!!!). I have yet to try most of my acquisitions out, but that will give me hours of fun, I reckon. They are a mixed gag, however:

Celestion Ditton 22
B&W DM4 (really like these)
M&S Pageant Series 2
Sansui SL5 and SL7
Goodmans 300 and 301 drivers
Goodmans Trebax units
Label missing - thought Altec - 15" drivers
Stentorian 15" driver

Unknown very early 15" to 16" driver - very heavy with what looks like space for a treble unit through the centre of magnet assembly and cone- early dual concentric? - can supply photos if of interest.

Leak Stereo 30 plus
Leak Stereo 70
Sugden A48
Dynaco pre-amp
Technics SL1900
Philips CD100 (original)

That's all I could fit in my car. I'd appreciate any comments/advice about which might be worth trying out first.

Now I will have to see if I can seek out second Goodmans 300, 301 and Stentorian units!

Cheers,
TD

[Jonboy]

Sitting here listening to a Trio KA 2002A amp that been tweaked a little, bass is suprisingly good, i like loudness buttons :)

[BTH K10A]

Unknown very early 15" to 16" driver - very heavy with what looks like space for a treble unit through the centre of magnet assembly and cone- early dual concentric? - can supply photos if of interest.



Cheers,
TD

I'd definitely be interested in seeing a picture of that driver

[Rare Bird]

Sitting here listening to a Trio KA 2002A amp that been tweaked a little, bass is suprisingly good, i like loudness buttons :)

Nice one Jon
I use an original Trio KA2000 circa approx 1970 (as per avatar) love it

[Jonboy]

Nice one Jon
I use an original Trio KA2000 circa approx 1970 (as per avatar) love it

I thought you would find this interesting Andr'e, i put it on this evening in my office system having been given it last night to try out and was pleasently supprised, i'm only playing Spotify from the head phone socket on the PC whilst trying to do paper work but the sound was nice and relaxing, it certainly gave my ears a rest from the "T" amp :lol:

[Tweedle-Dee]

I'd definitely be interested in seeing a picture of that driver

Here you are - any suggestions as to what it is and why there is an aperature through the centre?

http://s772.photobucket.com/albums/yy3/Tweedle-Dee12/Vintage%20driver%20unknown%20make/

Cheers,
TD

[Reid Malenfant]

Linky no worky David :(

[BTH K10A]

Here you are - any suggestions as to what it is and why there is an aperture through the centre?

http://s772.photobucket.com/albums/yy3/Tweedle-Dee12/Vintage

Cheers,
TD

Hi David

Can't get the link to work. Comes up "page not found"

Andy

[Tweedle-Dee]

I hope the link is fixed now -sorry

http://s772.photobucket.com/albums/yy3/Tweedle-Dee12/Vintage%20driver%20unknown%20make/

Cheers,
TD

[Reid Malenfant]

Looks like the horn that screws to the front is missing unfortunately. Apparently you might have the driver or at least the casing. Some kind of 2" or so dome was used as a tweeter by the looks of it...

Interesting....

[The Grand Wazoo]

Could it be a hole where a tubular heat sink used to go a la Hartley speakers?

[BTH K10A]

It's a Parmeko LS-1 but is missing it's diaphragm and multi cell horn for the HF compression driver. Unfortunately the diaphragm is rarer that rocking horse sh*t.

The BBC LS1 monitor used one of these supplemented with a Lorenz LPH-65 cone tweeter to fill in a dip in the response curve where the 605 line frequency is.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P-7.jpg

P.S. If you don't want it I'll gladly take it off your hands :):eyebrows::)

[Barry]

Yes, the Parmeko LS-1 was used in the BBC designed loudspeaker, the LSU/10.

Introduced in 1950, only 500 units were made for the BBC. No units were ever made for domestic use. A pair of LSU/10 speakers recently went on eBay for ~ £12,000.

The LSU/10 originally consisted of the afore mentioned Parmeko LS-1 mounted in a BBC designed cabinet, designated the LB/8. It was often driven by a modified Leak "Point One" amplifier, later known as the Leak TL12 (using KT66 output tetrodes).

The Parmeko LS-1 was a copy of the Altec 604 design, and had a frequency response that dropped off rapidly beyond 7.5KHz. This was sufficient to monitor AM broadcasts and the playing of the 78s of the time, but was unable to detect the line scan frequency of 405 line TV. To overcome this limitation, the BBC chose to fit the Lorentz LPH 65 super-tweeter into the LB/8 cabinet, with the Lorentz unit directly bolted to the cabinet grill. It was always intended by Parmeko that the LS-1 should only be used for frequencies < 1200 Hz.

The LSU/10 was 'pensioned off' in 1962; being replaced by the LS5/1, though a few units remained in use.

The Parmeko LS-1 units were only supplied to the BBC for a year.

[Tweedle-Dee]

It's a Parmeko LS-1 but is missing it's diaphragm and multi cell horn for the HF compression driver. Unfortunately the diaphragm is rarer that rocking horse sh*t.

The BBC LS1 monitor used one of these supplemented with a Lorenz LPH-65 cone tweeter to fill in a dip in the response curve where the 605 line frequency is.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P-7.jpg

P.S. If you don't want it I'll gladly take it off your hands :):eyebrows::)

Amazing - scarily amazing - thanks guys for identifying this. Now I just need to work out what to do with it!

Cheers,
TD

[Rare Bird]

Pulling away from all this ancient stuff the in reality sounds a bit medicore :sofa:

out of the blue. tonight a member of the wife's family asked me if they knew some Hi-Fi that thye could buy cos every stereo they bought sounded cack!

Amazing really. I had some spare stuff in the back room that i was gonna tip: Sony 222ES CD player, Cambridge Audio 'P55' amp, Mission '737R' Speekas should do it, but it just goes to show dunnit! should wipe the floor with what he's had!

[Barry]

Pulling away from all this ancient stuff that in reality sounds a bit medicore :sofa:

Out of the blue. Tonight a member of the wife's family asked me if they knew some Hi-Fi that thye could buy cos every stereo they bought sounded cack!

Amazing really. I had some spare stuff in the back room that I was gonna tip: Sony 222ES CD player, Cambridge Audio 'P55' amp, Mission '737R' Speekas should do it, but it just goes to show dunnit! Should wipe the floor with what he's had!

Cambridge P55? I always wanted the P40 when it first came out. Just loved that slim-line case and clean styling. (Cambridge were, I think, the first UK audio company to use a toroidal transformer.) And it got good reviews. Couldn't afford it then, nor could I when it evolved into the P50 and then the P60.

I have a Cambridge T55 tuner, was the P55 the matching amp André?

Regards

[Alex_UK]

If all goes to plan, my RAM 150s will be driven by a P55 in my "cheap as chips" system, Andre. I reckon they should be a good match, but who knows. All part of the fun! :)

[Rare Bird]

Cambridge P55? I always wanted the P40 when it first came out. Just loved that slim-line case and clean styling. (Cambridge were, I think, the first UK audio company to use a toroidal transformer.) And it got good reviews. Couldn't afford it then, nor could I when it evolved into the P50 and then the P60.

I have a Cambridge T55 tuner, was the P55 the matching amp André?



Hi Barry
No the 'T55' belongs to the older designs you mentioned.

[DSJR]

I have a T55 and P50. The tuner needs some fresh caps but sounds very good on a decent signal and the amp sounds like a 'period' transistor amp of the time it was made..

[BTH K10A]

I've still got a C100 preamp. I kept it as it's very flexible with both active and passive outputs.

Kept my NAD 1240 preamp as well

[Barry]

Hi Barry
No the 'T55' belongs to the older designs you mentioned.

Thanks André.

[DSJR]

Old P55/T55

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/60e18d48.jpg

[Barry]

Old P55/T55

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/60e18d48.jpg

At the risk of being labeled a pedant, the amp shown is marked P50. The tuner shown is the T55, same as the one I bought off eBay for about £20 - £30 (can't remember precisely how much).

I like the sound of the T55, though I not sure how the P40, 50 or 60 integrated amps would compare these days. :scratch:

Cheers

[Rare Bird]

At the risk of being labeled a pedant, the amp shown is marked P50. The tuner shown is the T55, same as the one I bought off eBay for about £20 - £30 (can't remember precisely how much).

I like the sound of the T55, though I not sure how the P40, 50 or 60 integrate amps would compare these days. :scratch:

Cheers


P40, P50, T55, P60, P100, P110, Classic One & the loudspeakers obviously

The 'Classic one' was a beauty, i always wanted one but not a great deal were made

[Barry]

P40, P50, T55, P60, P100, P110, Classic One & the loudspeakers obviously

The 'Classic one' was a beauty, i always wanted one but not a great deal were made

I had forgotten about the Classic One. Knew someone who had the black finish P100 (it might have been the P110) and matching black finish T55. He ran them into a pair of Cambridge R50 transmission line speakers. "State of the art" at the time. :)

[BTH K10A]

Until now I'd only ever seen a copy of an advert for one of these early Leak amps.
I was surprised at the simplicity underneath and love the fact it's all triode too.



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150611895189&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1762wt_1141

[Reid Malenfant]

:lolsign: Jeez, no CE approval there for sure :eek:

Nice looking beast though, but boy does something need to be done about the electrocution factor :eyebrows:

[MartinT]

I was just thinking the same thing, Mark. That thing could seriously rearrange your body parts.

[Reid Malenfant]

I'm not too worried about high voltage AC shocks Martin, it's DC that is a far worse proposition! With AC you can let go, but DC locks you onto it due to muscle contraction just the one way :eek: :deceased:

[BTH K10A]

Sad to see there's no appreciation of the history of the hobby. :(

Only fools would think to use it before it was checked, rewired and serviced by a competent person. :scratch:

[Marco]

Yup, from a historical point of view, it would be a great piece to own. I think the final price will be considerably more than what it is currently...

The valves alone are worth about £600 (or more, if they test good and have original boxes)!

Marco.

[Reid Malenfant]

Clark, there are exposed connections on the back of the PSU choke! That will be DC & possibly 300V+. I do appreciate old kit but i also like a tipple, drink & that amp just won't mix unless it's severely modified so there is no possible chance of electrocution :lol:

[Marco]

Btw, Mark, try 'Andy', not Clark... 'Clark' is there because he lives in Kent ;)


do appreciate old kit but i also like a tipple, drink & that amp just won't mix unless it's severely modified so there is no possible chance of electrocution...


Who says you have to plug it in? :eyebrows:

Marco.

[Reid Malenfant]

:lolsign: PMSL

[MartinT]

Only fools would think to use it before it was checked, rewired and serviced by a competent person. :scratch:

And brought up slowly on a variac.

[BTH K10A]

Clark, there are exposed connections on the back of the PSU choke! That will be DC & possibly 300V+. I do appreciate old kit but i also like a tipple, drink & that amp just won't mix unless it's severely modified so there is no possible chance of electrocution :lol:

Granted it's not up to modern safety standards but the people who buy these amps generally know what they are doing.

Spilling your pint of beer on any amp can be dangerous too. ;)

[Alex_UK]

Granted it's not up to modern safety standards but the people who buy these amps generally know what they are doing.

Spilling your pint of beer on any amp can be dangerous too. ;)

Yep, you spill Mark's beer you'll be in trouble, I can guarantee it! ;)

[Reid Malenfant]

Stuff spilling it :eek: I'd be more worried about the effects of it.. Lack of coordination etc & possible shocks..

:lolsign: We do tend to have to suffer to enjoy things at the end of the day :) One way or another :scratch:

[Reid Malenfant]

Yep, you spill Mark's beer you'll be in trouble, I can guarantee it! ;)
:lolsign: Ya nutter Alex :lol:

[chris@panteg]

If i won the euro tonight (lol) , this would be my 1st purchase .

Frequency response of 5-120 hrz , and looks amazing and would go very nicely in my SL-QL1.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110712705886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[BTH K10A]

Sound Sales made excellent amps. Looks to have choke/capacitor smoothing on the HT which is lacking in later Leak amps. The transformers all look to be a good size too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lovely-rare-pre-power-amp-A-Z-SOUND-SALES-1958-/260821195683?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3cba279ba3#ht_2237wt_1141

[The Grand Wazoo]

Coo-err!
That's lovely stuff. I was hoping it might have been one of the tri-amp designs (don't know the model designation) which had 3 output stages - EL84's for the treble, EL34's for the mid & KT88's (I think) for the bass. That's an amp I'd love to mess about with for a while!

[BTH K10A]

You mean the Tri Channel amp. I had a Mk 5 version plus control unit in the 90's, never could find another so I sold it. :doh: Valve line up was LN 309, EL84 & EL34.

The guy I bought it from had burnt the matching speaker out in his garden some years earlier. Apparently it was riddled with woodworm. He didn't even take the drivers out. :doh::doh:

[Marco]

Sound Sales made excellent amps. Looks to have choke/capacitor smoothing on the HT which is lacking in later Leak amps. The transformers all look to be a good size too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lovely-rare-pre-power-amp-A-Z-SOUND-SALES-1958-/260821195683?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3cba279ba3#ht_2237wt_1141

Utterly, utterly, UTTERLY GOREGOUS! :stalks: :stalks: :eek:

Marco.

[Jonboy]

Sound Sales made excellent amps. Looks to have choke/capacitor smoothing on the HT which is lacking in later Leak amps. The transformers all look to be a good size too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lovely-rare-pre-power-amp-A-Z-SOUND-SALES-1958-/260821195683?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3cba279ba3#ht_2237wt_1141

Yes that is a stunner, Eymet is in a Lovely part of France that i stayed in back in 2002 and very near to Bergerac which you can fly to from Southampton Airport with Flybe.com,

Now there's food for thought for you all, a nice amp and a few bottles of wine from the local vineyards all in a days outing

[BTH K10A]

Despite world economic conditions it seems that money is stil there for the desirable items. I suppose it's a bit like vintage cars.

http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310338411849&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:US:1123

[MartinT]

'kinell! $14,800 :stalks:

[Rare Bird]

Bimey i could buy twenty mega obscure Prog 1st issues for that

:lolsign:

[BTH K10A]

Less well known than other vintage amps from the USA but I've always liked the two tier construction and the battleship build quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5mRncFtJt8&amp;feature=related

[Mardler]

Re the Cambridge Audio discussion a year ago, I may be able to add a little value. I have a long and now more recent experience of this gear. In the mid 70s I was using a P110/T55/R50 system as per Barry's friend and darned good it was, too, especially when fed vinyl from an LP12/Ittok/OC9!

The T55 is one of the best FM tuners ever made. Period.

IMHO, the amps can show a clean pair of heels to most reasonably priced amps today. I'd place a P110 against anything up to £2,000 - £3,000 (don't forget that it was a premium priced item in its day, don't be fooled by 2nd hand prices). The lower powered amps aren't far behind and the P50Mk2 is even a tad "sweeter" sounding.

All of the range has a clear, transparent and unfatiguing sound. They "play tunes in the bass", have "pace rhythm and timing" in spades without trickery a la Naim and are wonderful with piano. Moreover, they all have the uncanny ability to make vocals easily discernible so that the words of songs you don't know are clear to hear.

Big downside: once we start listening via these amps it gets addictive and we end up playing music for hours!

[Marco]

Hi Richard,

Welcome to AoS :)

Could you do me a favour please and go to the Welcome area, start a new thread there, and introduce yourself to our members, telling what system you use and what music you like, as this procedure is required of all new members.

Cheers! :cool:

Marco.

[Mardler]

Done, Marco.

[Marco]

Cheers, Richard - much appreciated! :)

Marco.

[thebeathunters]

Less well known than other vintage amps from the USA but I've always liked the two tier construction and the battleship build quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5mRncFtJt8&amp;feature=related

:)drooling one these could be dangerous. you just made my day!

[MartinT]

Less well known than other vintage amps from the USA but I've always liked the two tier construction and the battleship build quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5mRncFtJt8&amp;feature=related

Anyone know what the music is?

[The Grand Wazoo]

Patricia Barber - 'If I were Blue'

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From 'Verse'

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512oS6bEizL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Here it is on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verse-Patricia-Barber/dp/B00006C2CC)

[MartinT]

Ah thanks, Chris. I recognised the voice, just couldn't put a name to it.

[chris@panteg]

Well this is different .

3eK1_jVSF5Q&feature=player_embedded#!

[MartinT]

Good to see your status change, Chris. You got the new amp fired up, then?

[chris@panteg]

Good to see your status change, Chris. You got the new amp fired up, then?

Hi Martin and thanks for asking .

Yes it's a Marantz KI pearl lite , it's a nice amp , not sure at the moment whether it's a happy match with my AE speakers ? It needs a bit more running in though .

[Mr Kipling]

Well for no other reason than I can, I've bought myself a Sony TA-F4A - mainly (ok, only) because I have always wanted a proper hairy-chested 70's amp with VU Meters...

http://img13.abload.de/img/a910q.jpg

Aren't they a gorgeous timeless design? Probably sounds cack though! This is a photo off the web, the one I've acquired has apparently just been serviced and cleaned.

I don't even know what I'm going to do with it, but I just couldn't resist :eyebrows:

Now got to find some suitable 70's speakers... In fact, I think this will be the start of a complete 70's system :)

Alex, wondered what you thought of the Sony amp? Just bought one for £28 with just one channel working. Tried, but just couldn't resist! Looks quite solid.

[walpurgis]

The Rotel RA-611 is a goodie if you can find one!

[Mr Kipling]

Well Geoff, like Alex, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but I've never seen one before and just had to have it.

Reminds me of me old Amstrad EX 330. Wonder if it's as good!

[walpurgis]

Well Geoff, like Alex, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but I've never seen one before and just had to have it.

Reminds me of me old Amstrad EX 330. Wonder if it's as good!

Now come on Stephen, you know the esteem with which Amsturd products are held. It's second only to Bose! (actually I'm sure that's not fair on Bose, their stuff does actually work)

[Rare Bird]

Well ive been looking for a minto Akai 'AA8500' Seever for quite some toime loike!

[Mr Kipling]

Err. . . Should I ask why André? I can sort-of justify to myself buying tat, but try to curb the impulse. For anything other than tat, cost and logic usually prevail. If I did have real dosh to spare, God knows what I'd be buying.

[Rare Bird]

Because they sound good.Other peoples idea of good Hi-Fi aint mine loike. However i Keep telling you lot i aint intrested in specialist Hi-Fi anymore.

I already have an 'AA5000' amp magic it is.

[DSJR]

I wonder how the Acoustic Research amp from the early 70's would sound today? Transformer coupled too and the matching tuner was also a wonderful thing I feel.

[istari_knight]

I wonder how the Acoustic Research amp from the early 70's would sound today? Transformer coupled too and the matching tuner was also a wonderful thing I feel.

I had the whole set up until a couple of years ago... They are poor by modern standards being overly smooth & a bit wooly but they just make sweet music.

I suspect any out there will need a full service as the preamp is always powered bit like a Cyrus phono stage...

[Rare Bird]

I wonder how the Acoustic Research amp from the early 70's would sound today? Transformer coupled too and the matching tuner was also a wonderful thing I feel.

I can tell you exactly how they sound, very good when recapped..

[Rare Bird]

I had the whole set up until a couple of years ago... They are poor by modern standards being overly smooth & a bit wooly but they just make sweet music.



Why do people keep saying this for crying out loud :steam: I get sick to the back teeth people comparing vintage to modern equipment, vintage sound to modern sound.

[DSJR]

Hmm... Vintage products should sound like modern ones if both types are good at their job. The main limiting factor today is old-age in the vintage stuff. However, many older amps from the early 70's measured very badly even then, with copious amounts of crossover distortion to contend with, let alone other bad things going on such as poor vinyl input overload margins (Leak Stereo 30 and 70) and very odd artifacts (Armstrong 600 series and original Quad 405) and severe OTT band-limiting as found on a stock Quad 33 preamp.

Many Japanese amps from this period were also hobbled with, I understand, too much global feedback applied, all to give good harmonic distortion figures. The music suffered so badly as a result. Poor current delivery was yet another issue for many Jap amps and some advised against 4 ohm loads, despite having facitilies for two sets of speakers in parallel!

So there! :lol:

[Mr Kipling]

As 5p (shilling in old money) Dave mentions Japanese amps did employ high levels of overall feedback to get a good figure for distortion, at least that was what was used to be levelled at them. Whatever happened to nested differential feedback loops? Does anyone use them?

Anyway, I want one of these:

[Rare Bird]

I use my ears instead of heading straight for the spec sheet :)

I mean who the hell cares if the spec aint upto modern scratch??

[DSJR]

Anyway, I want one of these:



5p Dave - love it :lol: But not the full shilling.......

Did these Miracord decks find their way to the UK, or will you have to import one and faff around with motor pulleys and such.. Just get a Dual 1019 instead, or a 1229 with M91-ED (lovely :))

[Mr Kipling]

5p Dave - love it :lol: But not the full shilling.......

Did these Miracord decks find their way to the UK, or will you have to import one and faff around with motor pulleys and such.. Just get a Dual 1019 instead, or a 1229 with M91-ED (lovely :))

I don't know Dave. I was flitting around the 'net looking at stuff about ADC cartridges and found a thread to the picture and was surprised to learn that the deck was made by Elac and dated back to the '60s. I didn't know Elac was so old, predating Shure I think with making cartridges. I've only known the name from speakers in the '80s. There's various models but I love the black and chrome finish of that particular model. It was made for Radioshack in the US.

[Rare Bird]

Ive just finished another blast from the past, in mint condition apart from a small ding on the front edge (my OCD will have me climbing the wall soon, i'm sure of it :lol:) anyhoots, It sounds no lesser than my Nakamichi '500' , i certainly prefer the Techy for useability & looks, beautiful big VU's :eyebrows: ..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD01.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD02.jpg

:thumbsup:

Now what can i buy nexy :hmm:

Just spotted an hair around the input level control knob :eek:

[Macca]

You're gonna need a bigger lock -up ;)

[Audio Al]

Ive just finished another blast from the past, in mint condition apart from a small ding on the front edge (my OCD will have me climbing the wall soon, i'm sure of it :lol:) anyhoots, It sounds no lesser than my Nakamichi '500' , i certainly prefer the Techy for useability & looks, beautiful big VU's :eyebrows: ..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD01.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD02.jpg

:thumbsup:

Now what can i buy nexy :hmm:

Just spotted an hair around the input level control knob :eek:



MMMmm a cassette player :) or sould I say Yum Yum :D

[Beobloke]

Ive just finished another blast from the past, in mint condition apart from a small ding on the front edge (my OCD will have me climbing the wall soon, i'm sure of it :lol:) anyhoots, It sounds no lesser than my Nakamichi '500' , i certainly prefer the Techy for useability & looks, beautiful big VU's :eyebrows: ..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD01.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/TechyRS-273USD02.jpg

:thumbsup:

Now what can i buy nexy :hmm:

Just spotted an hair around the input level control knob :eek:

Ah, memory lane! My first cassette deck was the model below that - the RS-263US.

It made superb recordings and sounded great, but it was only when I got rid of it that I realised the azimuth must have been off and it was running fast, as all recordings I have left that I made on it are slow and muffled sounding now!

[Mr Kipling]

Ah, memory lane! My first cassette deck was the model below that - the RS-263US.

It made superb recordings and sounded great, but it was only when I got rid of it that I realised the azimuth must have been off and it was running fast, as all recordings I have left that I made on it are slow and muffled sounding now!

Yeah. . . Life's a bugger at times. Isn't it Adam!

Can't remember if my first real deck was an Akai CS-34D or an ITT, which was nicely made and had a nice front panel and meters. The Akai arrived with the flywheel knocking. The capstan was replaced which cured the knock, but I could never get fast forward or reverse to work properly. Was never happy with cassette sound until I got a Technics RS B605 in the '80s. Recordings had grip, if sounding a tad proccessed.

[Rare Bird]

After a good check up & clean this baby just requires Belts & Motor run capacitors replacing, o & the Brake adjusting, but still works as is...It'll get a full fettle when the bits arrive.. One or two very faint marks on the silver pannel but nothing that will drive me too nutty :D

Uher 'Variocord 263' R+R :)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher01.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher02.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher03.jpg

[Audio Al]

After a good check up & clean this baby just requires Belts & Motor run capacitors replacing, o & the Brake adjusting, but still works as is...It'll get a full fettle when the bits arrive.. One or two very faint marks on the silver pannel but nothing that will drive me too nutty :D

Uher 'Variocord 263' R+R :)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher01.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher02.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher03.jpg

Sloveley for sure :D

[jandl100]

Quad 57 - I've never seen them mounted like this before!

http://www.audiocircuit.com/A-Images/AA-Projects-DPR/ArjunaMadanayake-AM/941-DPR-AM1_________-P-A04.jpg

I'm not sure about all that reflective glass behind :hmm: but a very interesting idea.

[YNWaN]

Isn't that the veranda - I don't think there is any glass behind.

[Mr Kipling]

Mustn't have neighbours.

Found a photo of me ITT 8020. Looking back, I don't know why I kept the Akai and parted with it. Soundwise there was little between them and I got next to nothing in part exchange for it as it was ITT, and it cost a fair bit back then.

[The Barbarian]

Managed to get this Uher finished a while back. I already have a 'Royal De-Luxe' this is a'Varicord 263' simular to the 'Royal De-luxe' but not as posh :eyebrows:

However if anyone has a smoked cover & stand from a 'Royal De-Luxe' gimmi a shout as they will fit this model..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Uher.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/ELPFAN1968/media/Uher.jpg.html)

[The Barbarian]

Here's a good un, mi Imperial 'Safari'.. opps sorry thats a typewriter

:lol: ready fer restoration all the same..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Safari.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/ELPFAN1968/media/Safari.jpg.html)

Slim chance but if anyone has an orange Royal 'Safari' typewriter let mi know..

[The Barbarian]

Can anyone link me to the Owners Handbook/Service & Schematic for a Revox 'M40' amp?

[istari_knight]

Can anyone link me to the Owners Handbook/Service & Schematic for a Revox 'M40' amp?

You've probably seen it but a there's a low res schematic here: http://c.pejout.free.fr/AMPLIFICATEURS/REVOX%20M40%202x10W/slides/003.jpg

[The Barbarian]

Cheers James..

[Barry]

Quad 57 - I've never seen them mounted like this before!

http://www.audiocircuit.com/A-Images/AA-Projects-DPR/ArjunaMadanayake-AM/941-DPR-AM1_________-P-A04.jpg

I'm not sure about all that reflective glass behind :hmm: but a very interesting idea.

Hmm? - Exchanging beaming and directivity in the vertical plane for the same in the horizontal plane.

But then they are stacked Quad 57s, so I would have them if I had a place like that. Don't mind me, I'm only jealous !

[iscm]

This thread is just fill of blank photobucket pictures.
Is it about time there were removed.

Even if someone does pay the subscription the pictures will go the moment the sub is stopped.

All forums seem to have this Phototbucket problem.
It is a shame.

[iscm]

Those Quads look great, but surely they need more rigid stands.
Great place to listen in though. :D

[walpurgis]

This thread is just fill of blank photobucket pictures.
Is it about time there were removed.

Hardly worth worrying about a thread nobody has looked at for years.

[Tim]

This thread is just fill of blank photobucket pictures.
Is it about time there were removed.

Even if someone does pay the subscription the pictures will go the moment the sub is stopped.

All forums seem to have this Phototbucket problem.
It is a shame.

If you had any idea how much work that would be, you might not have said that ;)

It is a shame though I agree, some forums used to be an amazing resource, a lot of threads lose their value without pictures.

[montesquieu]

This thread is just fill of blank photobucket pictures.
Is it about time there were removed.

Even if someone does pay the subscription the pictures will go the moment the sub is stopped.

All forums seem to have this Phototbucket problem.
It is a shame.

There is a plug-in for some browsers that gets round photobucket's blocker. I have no Photobucket problem when using it.

Google photobucket fix and your browser name.

[Barry]

There is a plug-in for some browsers that gets round photobucket's blocker. I have no Photobucket problem when using it.

Google photobucket fix and your browser name.

Yes - it does work. But those photobucket images that have been deleted by a particular user will, of course, be lost.

[HackneyRF]

I just tried this fix. It does work. The photographs have returned to my gallery thread. 😊

[walpurgis]

I just tried this fix. It does work. The photographs have returned to my gallery thread. ��

You may now see them Loz, but surely the images can only be viewed by others who have implemented the fix too?

[HackneyRF]

You may now see them Loz, but surely the images can only be viewed by others who have implemented the fix too?

You're probably right Geoff. Give it a go.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?39083-Hackney-s-set-up&highlight=Hackney%27s+set

[walpurgis]

Ooo. I can see them. Didn't expect that! :D

[HackneyRF]

Ooo. I can see them. Didn't expect that! :D

Neither did I so a pleasant surprise. I followed these instructions taken from here:

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?408704-Photobucket-fix-in-Firefox-and-Chrome

Hopefully it might help some folks get their wonderful gallery threads back.


_______________
For Firefox browser users,
•go to to the upper right of the screen and click on the 3 horizontal bars ("Open Menu")
•click on "Add-Ons"
• click on "Get Add-Ons", at the bottom of the screen
• click on "See More Add-Ons!".
• A new page will open up, look for "photobucket embed fix"
• touch it with your mouse pointer
• click on "+ Add to Firefox" then "Add".

For Google Chrome browsers, type in "photobucket embed fix" in the browser search/URL bar and click on the "photobucket embed fix" link.

[HackneyRF]

Umm.....it's back to square one I'm afraid. The fix worked temporarily but now the photos are no longer showing. Bugger!

[Made in 1968]

Audiotronic Cartridges.. These used Shure cartridges with a White 'V15' style plastic body.. I use a 70ED with Jico M75 Styli

Audiotronic AMC-50E/ED [Shure M55]
Audiotronic AMC-70E/ED [Shure M75]
Audiotronic AMC-90E/ED [Shure M95]

https://i.imgur.com/WUbvwWw.jpg

[Made in 1968]

Wharfdale 'Denton 1'.. I use a pair of these..

Single Full range unit believed to be the same as the one used in the 'Chevin XP2'

This model can be confusing to a lot as they will automatically think of the old 2 way brown box jobbies. Totally different speaker.

[Made in 1968]

The only Technics deck i would buy

http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/746990/dsc-03711_520284.jpg

[drrdf]

Why are these photographs all out of focus?

[Made in 1968]

Is that a trick Question?

:eyebrows: