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worrasf
27-11-2014, 11:14
Just watch the price of TT's start to increase :eyebrows:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30216638 :D

struth
27-11-2014, 11:24
i liked some of the comments at bottom

Marco
27-11-2014, 13:32
Great news - and long may that trend continue! :thumbsup:

I always said that, in this digital age, vinyl would become the only surviving physical music format sold in any serious quantities, and that it would be CD (eventually) that would die, while vinyl sales would continue to grow (albeit never returning to what they once were).

Just wait and you’ll see… The future, along with file-based audio, is vinyl! ;)

Marco.

The Black Adder
27-11-2014, 13:44
I hope the futures isn't One Direction-al either... The next thing the BMI needs to do is to buck up it's ideas and pioneer rather than cooky-cut. Or am I wishing for too much there... lol

Audio Al
27-11-2014, 14:19
The future, , is vinyl!

Slight correction dear Daftee :D

Haselsh1
27-11-2014, 14:25
So, vinyl sales reach an 18 year high. Tell us something we didn't know, vinyl is better than digital :eyebrows:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30216638

Marco
27-11-2014, 14:29
You’re too late, daftee, (and also posting it in the wrong section): http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?35407-The-secrets-out

;)

I’ll merge the two threads later.

Marco.

Haselsh1
27-11-2014, 14:31
Typical :rolleyes:

Marco
27-11-2014, 14:33
:stupid:

:D

Marco.

struth
27-11-2014, 14:34
thought the thead had had a change of name there:lol: i will leave it for the boss:)

Haselsh1
27-11-2014, 14:34
I like the bit where it discusses the love of vinyl as art. I think that the whole vinyl concept is art even down to the tonal appreciation. I guess that some of us have whatever it is and some of us don't but either way, each to their own.

Haselsh1
27-11-2014, 14:37
Just watch the price of TT's start to increase :eyebrows:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30216638 :D

I honestly don't care about the possible spiralling rise in the cost of a turntable, I am happy with what I have and will be even happier when I get that DL103:)

The Barbarian
27-11-2014, 15:15
They just need to start pressing records properly. How can they forget after years of practice?

Beobloke
27-11-2014, 15:34
i liked some of the comments at bottom

Really? I made it past the person who buys records only to break them and throw them away, as I assume this is just some unfortunate simpleton looking for attention. Unfortunately I then go to the person who thinks a Garrard SP25Mk4 is an autochanger and gave up....

:doh:

The Barbarian
27-11-2014, 16:07
You know what to do Dont sign in anymore

Marco
27-11-2014, 16:47
I honestly don't care about the possible spiralling rise in the cost of a turntable, I am happy with what I have and will be even happier when I get that DL103:)

Shaun, make sure you’ve got everything in place that will allow your 103 to ‘sing’. It’s a lovely sounding cartridge, but not easy to integrate successfully [I mean genuinely successfully] into a modern system.

For starters, which arm and headshell will you be using it on, and through what phono stage? :)

Marco.

Marco
27-11-2014, 16:52
They just need to start pressing records properly. How can they forget after years of practice?

Completely agree. There’s no bloody excuse for not making records at least 100% flat! If they can then use proper virgin vinyl (free from leaving a ‘cloudy residue’ effect on the record surface, at the end of the production process), and press the vinyl with nice quiet, noise-free grooves, instead of brand new records sounding as if they’ve been sponsored by Kelloggs (until run through an RCM), then that’ll be a nice bonus! :exactly:

Marco.

Macca
27-11-2014, 16:55
I hope the futures isn't One Direction-al either... The next thing the BMI needs to do is to buck up it's ideas and pioneer rather than cooky-cut. Or am I wishing for too much there... lol

The way I see it we already have so much quality back catalogue from, say '65 onwards that it would take several lifetimes for anyone to trawl through and appreciate it all. If I hear a record I like for the first time doesn't matter to me whether it is from 1973 or 2014. It's still new and fresh to me. We don't actually need anymore new artists.

Oldpinkman
27-11-2014, 17:24
Completely agree. There’s no bloody excuse for not making records at least 100% flat! If they can then use proper virgin vinyl (free from leaving a ‘cloudy residue’ effect on the record surface, at the end of the production process), and press the vinyl with nice quiet, noise-free grooves, instead of brand new records sounding as if they’ve been sponsored by Kelloggs (until run through an RCM), then that’ll be a nice bonus! :exactly:

Marco.

And make them able to be left on a coffee table in the sun without warping and becoming noisy... (Adele 21, and Katie Melua Secret Symphony)

I am f****g hopeless sometimes :doh:

Marco
27-11-2014, 17:29
Lol - you are a daftee! We’ve all done it, though…

In all seriousness though, proper care of records is essential, if you are to enjoy the format at its best - and that means handling them properly and storing them vertically in purpose built racks and inside decent anti-static sleeves, never leaving them lying around outside of their sleeves, along with investing in an RCM.

Not enough folk who profess to be ‘into vinyl’ do the above.

Marco.

naitphile
27-11-2014, 17:50
A sore point with me my £80 peter Gabriel 'so' anniversary boxed set has an LP that looks like the Yorkshire Dales.....the seller wouldn't even respond!

Haselsh1
27-11-2014, 18:01
Shaun, make sure you’ve got everything in place that will allow your 103 to ‘sing’. It’s a lovely sounding cartridge, but not easy to integrate successfully [I mean genuinely successfully] into a modern system.

For starters, which arm and headshell will you be using it on, and through what phono stage? :)

Marco.

Marco, Thorens TD160 B Mk II with Linn LVV and Sumiko headshell. The phono stage I haven't decided on yet so I am using the one in the Rotel preamp.

Marco
27-11-2014, 18:41
All sounds good, (especially the LVV) although you’ll need to add quite a bit more mass to the Sumiko, as 11-12g defo isn’t enough for a 103. Try another 6g, by adding a ’shim’ of the equivalent mass :)

If you don’t add the extra mass, it will sound ok until you try and play something ‘difficult’/‘busy’ and/or highly modulated, where the sound will go all coarse and ‘shouty’ (edgy and brittle). The extra mass damps down that effect, adding security and solidity to the sound.

What plans have you got for the phono stage? Ideally, you want a valve MM one with a head amp or SUT. Croft is the obvious candidate for valve, or a Firebottle. For SS, I rate the Graham Slee designs, along with their excellent Elevator EXP head amp :cool:

Marco.

Beobloke
27-11-2014, 19:13
Lol - you are a daftee! We’ve all done it, though…


'We' most certainly have not! :ner:

Marco
27-11-2014, 19:16
Wot - you’ve never ‘fried' a fuzzy? :eyebrows:

Marco.

Andrei
27-11-2014, 20:03
And make them able to be left on a coffee table in the sun without warping and becoming noisy... (Adele 21, and Katie Melua Secret Symphony)

I am f****g hopeless sometimes :doh:
Oh cripes Richard. When are you going to tell your missus to stop serving dinner on them?

Marco
27-11-2014, 20:45
One for Shaun:

http://mic.com/articles/104250/what-the-internet-has-done-to-your-love-of-music

;)

I found this comment rather enlightening:


Recently collected Spotify data illustrates how short our musical attention spans have become. There's only about a 50% chance we'll actually make it to the end of a song…


What?? I almost always play WHOLE ALBUMS all the way through to the end, never mind songs!! :eek:

Folk these days must have the attention span of a wombat.

Marco.