Where to by heavy record weights in the Uk?

[jamington2004]

Something like TTweights.com where they go up to 1.4kg

Can't seem to find much above 500g in the UK

Have an 800g one which I am selling with my current deck - and now need another one to go on my 1210 with mike new bearing - and funk platter - to put on top of the Oyaide mat which is on it's way to me (they are concave so need a heavy weight for best performance)

Thanks for any info

Cheers
Jamie

[CageyH]

Why do you want one that heavy?
People have found the Bruil(?) record weight quite effective on the Techie, and that's a lot lighter.

[walpurgis]

Personally, I won't use heavy record clamps. You don't need much mass to add damping to a record and the turntable main bearing is not usually designed to cope with a large rotating lump above the platter.

But if you insist: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Record-Turntable-Clamp-Pure-COPPER-1-42-KG-3-125-Lbs-/231078446211?pt=US_Record_Players_Home_Turntables&hash=item35cd594483

[jamington2004]

Personally, I won't use heavy record clamps. You don't need much mass to add damping to a record and the turntable main bearing is not usually designed to cope with a large rotating lump above the platter.

But if you insist: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Record-Turntable-Clamp-Pure-COPPER-1-42-KG-3-125-Lbs-/231078446211?pt=US_Record_Players_Home_Turntables&hash=item35cd594483

Thanks but this in Canada - beautiful as it looks :)

I need the higher weight as the oyaide platter mat is slightly concave so that when used with a heavy weight it pushes the vinyl flat all way to the edge

Without it I agree - as a weight won't press down any slight warps towards the outer edge

I have an upgraded bearing and power supply so I think the extra weight is fine (plus my upgraded platter is lighter than the original too :)

Thanks for the reply

[jamington2004]

Why do you want one that heavy?
People have found the Bruil(?) record weight quite effective on the Techie, and that's a lot lighter.

Thanks - can't find that make on google no matter how hard I try :)

See answer below re reason for extra weight.

I actually found a few 750g when searching stabiliser instead of weight!

[daytona600]

never seen one above 750g myself

[prestonchipfryer]

You could try this manufacturer -

http://www.ebay.de/itm/PatheWings-High-End-Stabilizer-Plattengewicht-860g-Sn-17-fur-Thorens-Linn-Rega-/331375093754?pt=Plattenspielerzubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item4d277ea7fa

[CageyH]

Surely too much weight will add bearing rumble noise.
I cannot imagine you have to go much over 400g to flatten out an LP?

[jamington2004]

You could try this manufacturer -

http://www.ebay.de/itm/PatheWings-High-End-Stabilizer-Plattengewicht-860g-Sn-17-fur-Thorens-Linn-Rega-/331375093754?pt=Plattenspielerzubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item4d277ea7fa

Ooooo they look nice :) Thanks a lot for the suggestion

[jamington2004]

Surely too much weight will add bearing rumble noise.
I cannot imagine you have to go much over 400g to flatten out an LP?

Yes quite a few people saying this on hifiwigwam too, that 400g odd should do the trick :)

I don't see rumble as an issue though as the upgraded bearing I have is pretty monstrous and I know the same guy also built a solid steel and copper platter for the 1210 - must weigh several kilos!!

[DarrenHW]

I don't see rumble as an issue though as the upgraded bearing I have is pretty monstrous and I know the same guy also built a solid steel and copper platter for the 1210 - must weigh several kilos!!

Indeed, that sort of weight shouldn't be an issue for the MNB. There's the matching Oyaide weight as you're on a spending spree, Marco's been down this route with the Al/Cu platter http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?8639-Mike-New-platter-Oyaide-MJ-12-mat-amp-STB-MS-stabiliser-arrive-at-Marco-Towers. Could you not use something like the Michell Record Clamp?

Have you received the Isonoes yet / what do you think of them?

Check out Kevin's (CageyH a.k.a. wonkycustard) signature above you're 2 of the potential 3 members of the FX-1200 owners club and as I'm now an ex-member I really should change my sig.

[jamington2004]

Indeed, that sort of weight shouldn't be an issue for the MNB. There's the matching Oyaide weight as you're on a spending spree, Marco's been down this route with the Al/Cu platter http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?8639-Mike-New-platter-Oyaide-MJ-12-mat-amp-STB-MS-stabiliser-arrive-at-Marco-Towers. Could you not use something like the Michell Record Clamp?

Have you received the Isonoes yet / what do you think of them?

Check out Kevin's (CageyH a.k.a. wonkycustard) signature above you're 2 of the potential 3 members of the FX-1200 owners club and as I'm now an ex-member I really should change my sig.

Hi Darren :)

Yes I saw the Oyaide's - I think they are ugly myself though (as well as being bloody expensive!!!), and can't see why I would want to use different weights for different occasions

Also saw a stillpoints one for £400??? More foo than I am comfortable with! ;)

I am loving the FX1200!! The original base with VTA, and the antiskate dial makes the rega arms look like child play! Such amazign engineering and a joy to lift the arm up and down every time! (well nicer than the Rega anyway)

And soundwise its so hard to make a direct comparison but I know the package is in a different league to the 1210 I had without funk platter or arm

Isonoes still in the post :( And the Oyaide :(

Oh well - good things come to those who wait

[jaym481]

Personally, I won't use heavy record clamps. You don't need much mass to add damping to a record and the turntable main bearing is not usually designed to cope with a large rotating lump above the platter.

But if you insist: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Record-Turntable-Clamp-Pure-COPPER-1-42-KG-3-125-Lbs-/231078446211?pt=US_Record_Players_Home_Turntables&hash=item35cd594483

That's the previously mentioned TTWeights. The username ldenham is Larry Denham, the owner of TTWeights.

[jamington2004]

That's the previously mentioned TTWeights. The username ldenham is Larry Denham, the owner of TTWeights.

Yes i did see the company name looked fammilar on the auction

Its funny they look like a a big outfit but then have an ebay acct with 150 sales

It does look like a beautiful thing to have and hold though :)

[DarrenHW]

I am loving the FX1200!! The original base with VTA, and the antiskate dial makes the rega arms look like child play! Such amazign engineering and a joy to lift the arm up and down every time! (well nicer than the Rega anyway)

I couldn't agree more (this is what replaced the Techie :rolleyes:)...

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And soundwise its so hard to make a direct comparison but I know the package is in a different league to the 1210 I had without funk platter or arm


I'm glad you're happy with it, I was very pleased with what it achieved just prefer the flavor of the Garrard.

[jamington2004]

That plinth is amazing - quite some workmanship involved to get that kind of quality and finish!

;)


Glad you prefer it....I always wondered what the fuss was about so may try one myself if there is a next time.......

[DarrenHW]

That plinth is amazing - quite some workmanship involved to get that kind of quality and finish!

;)


Aw thanks, no expense spared :) I had hoped to have it in a new plinth before Christmas but realistically have too much going on, it may stay like this for a while :doh:

[jaym481]

Yes i did see the company name looked fammilar on the auction

Its funny they look like a a big outfit but then have an ebay acct with 150 sales

It does look like a beautiful thing to have and hold though :)

The hi-fi part of the company is not very big, I think. They do produce a lot of TT accessories (hence the name, I suppose), as well as some pretty heavy-duty TTs, but the main business is producing precision parts for the aviation industry. They have been in the TT-related business for years, but only started selling on EBay recently.

I have a 600g weight and a copper/maple laminate mat from them.

[trio leo]

I have pondered this question in the past, I'm sure with suspended decks there's a happy medium to be achieved, on my 124 I use a weight, I don't know what it weighs, but I feel right using it, tbh I have listened with and without and I can't hear the difference, I just use it because I feel I should.

enjoy your music :):)

cheers Al.

[petrat]

I want one of these ....

http://www.lys-electronique.com/GYR33GB.html

Not because I think it'll improve the sound ... just because I think it looks cool.

[jamington2004]

Wowsers! They aren't subtle :)

In the end I sold my old TT without the weight - so I got to keep my TTWeights one

happy days

[YNWaN]

I want one of these ....

http://www.lys-electronique.com/GYR33GB.html

Not because I think it'll improve the sound ... just because I think it looks cool.

Blimey, do you! We must have very different ideas of what looks 'cool' then.

[walpurgis]

I want one of these ....

http://www.lys-electronique.com/GYR33GB.html

Not because I think it'll improve the sound ... just because I think it looks cool.


I bet you like big VU meters too. ;)

[YNWaN]

It's not so much the circle of LED's that put me off (though I don't really like them either) as much as the sheer size of it; I think all those tall record weights look very out of place!

[Marco]

I couldn't agree more (this is what replaced the Techie :rolleyes:)...


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I'm glad you're happy with it, I was very pleased with what it achieved just prefer the flavor of the Garrard.

Isn’t it strange sometimes where our audio journey takes us? I bet, 12 months ago, you wouldn’t have conceived of selling your Techy…. Still, I’m glad that I helped you make in the end what I thought was the best decision for you :)

Let me know, dude, when you guys are free next and can pop over for a sesh, chez-moi :cool:

Marco.

[DarrenHW]

Isn’t it strange sometimes where our audio journey takes us? I bet, 12 months ago, you wouldn’t have conceived of selling your Techy….

12 months ago I didn't even conceived taking the Techy to the level I did, when I first joined AoS I planned on being at the end of my journey within a couple of months, 12 months on and I realise (or is it accept) it's only just begun.


Still, I’m glad that I helped you make in the end what I thought was the best decision for you :)

And I am eternally grateful, especially as when you first came round to check out the Garrard I was planning on selling it and keeping the Techy, if it wasn't for all your fettling it would have been on eBay! I now have a Hadcock GH228 for it but it's not fitted, hell the Garrard isn't even plugged in at the moment :doh:.


Let me know, dude, when you guys are free next and can pop over for a sesh, chez-moi :cool:

Thanks for the offer but unlikely to be before Christmas, I've just been down for 11 days with some sort of disease so have to catch up with all the work I missed and get ahead of the game so I can take some time off at Christmas. As it stands at the moment it looks like I'll be working every day from now until 20/12 :(. I'll be in touch closer to the time to see how our diaries match up, very interested to hear how the new CDP (Oppo 105, http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/oppo/1.html) sounds in your system and what your DL-103 sounds like now it's got a few hours on it. Luke's still itching to see and hear what's going on at Marco Towers :stalks:.

[jamington2004]

Isn’t it strange sometimes where our audio journey takes us? I bet, 12 months ago, you wouldn’t have conceived of selling your Techy…. Still, I’m glad that I helped you make in the end what I thought was the best decision for you :)

Marco.

I am glad he did sell it - I love it

Although the only downside is my old deck had no ability to tweak and I was happy and sorted and listening to music without wasting valuable listening time thinking about hifi!

No I have a 1210 and I already bought mats and feet and boots and started asking about rewiring the on/off switch to work again!

And then there is the idea of rehousing the whole thing one day........ but I think I would just have to pay someone to do that. Soldered my first wire the other day and it was disastrous, I should stay well away!

Hey ho - the 1210 does sound bloody nice and I am loving the start stop, and pitch for some old trance albums which sound awesome again in my old age on -8% :)

[Marco]

No worries, Darren. Sorry to hear you’ve been ill - hope you’re better now!

I knew the inherent sonic potential of the Garrard, once it was properly fettled (at least as far as it could be in the makeshift plinth you were using), after which it was obvious to me that it was shaking your booty more than the Techy, so even though I’m a Technics T/T fan, it would’ve been remiss of me not to have shown you some of what the Garrard could do, as otherwise you would’ve made a big mistake.

At the end of the day, it’s all about us helping each other out, based on our relevant experience :)

Anyway, don’t work too hard and let us know when you’re free nearer Xmas, and when I can subject Luke to the full Marco-boy system experience! :rave:

:eyebrows: :eyebrows:

Marco.

[DarrenHW]

I am glad he did sell it - I love it

And I'm glad it's gone to a good home!


Although the only downside is my old deck had no ability to tweak and I was happy and sorted and listening to music without wasting valuable listening time thinking about hifi!

No I have a 1210 and I already bought mats and feet and boots and started asking about rewiring the on/off switch to work again!



I know how you feel, life was so much simpler before I joined AoS, that said I'm very glad I did!

[Marco]

Jamie, the Garrard and Techy have different sets of sonic strengths, which will appeal to their respective users. Unfortunately, for Techy users, it takes much more money to transform an SL-1200/1210 into a genuine high-end T/T, than it does a Garrard 301 or 401.

However, once done (ensuring that sonic synergy has been achieved, through the use of the correct ancillaries), vinyl music replay doesn’t get much better! :)

Marco.

[DarrenHW]

No worries, Darren. Sorry to hear you’ve been ill - hope you’re better now!

I knew the inherent sonic potential of the Garrard, once it was properly fettled (at least as far as it could be in the makeshift plinth you were using), after which it was obvious to me that it was shaking your booty more than the Techy, so even though I’m a Technics T/T fan, it would’ve been remiss of me not to have shown you some of what the Garrard could do, as otherwise you would’ve made a big mistake.

:youtheman::youtheman::youtheman:


At the end of the day, it’s all about us helping each other out, based on our relevant experience :)

If I had to give AoS a tag line that would be it!



Anyway, don’t work too hard and let us know when you’re free nearer Xmas, and when I can subject Luke to the full Marco-boy system experience!

Will do, looking forward to it!

[petrat]

Blimey, do you! We must have very different ideas of what looks 'cool' then.

Well, I own a Verdier Platine, so you're probably correct :D
Not mine ....
http://www.lys-electronique.com/photosnew/100_2172.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Zp0FmhIdhm4/SJPOcE-7ceI/AAAAAAAAAAs/ReAjkoR58FQ/s400/verdier%2B5.jpg

[YNWaN]

Oddly, I rather like the extreme form/function look of the Platine Verdier and with the stacked look of the platter and supporting magnets the tall record weight doesn't look quite so ungainly :).